Is Favre Green Bay's Judas?
Props to Green and Bold on this one. His post, which can be found here, was the first I read about the subject. Credit goes where credit is due.
Have you experienced hearing about an incident and immediately relating it to a song? Probably not, because it's kind of lame. But, when I heard about this, my mind immediately went to track 7 from Eminem's "Encore" album.
Brett Favre, you don't know how sick you make me.
You don't know how sick you make me,
You make me ----in' sick to my stomach,
Everytime I think of you I puke.
You must just not know, uo-uo-uo-uo-uo-uoh,
You may not think you do but you do,
Everytime I think of you I [puke].
The song is obviously about the infamous Kim, just like most of Mr. Mathers' other songs. But the chorus relates my current feelings towards Brett Favre perfectly.
Jay Glazer is no hack writer. The guy cracks big stories and he's right more often than not. He's often been on top of Favre stories, and he was here too. According to Glazer, this is what happened:
Several sources have told FOX Sports that Favre earlier this year phoned the Detroit Lions prior to their battle versus Favre's old team, the Green Bay Packers, and gave them a rundown of the nuances of what Green Bay does on offense. According to the sources, Favre actually spent over an hour on the phone with Lions coaches, who were connected with Favre by then-team president Matt Millen.
Favre called the Lions? Our beloved Brett went to our opponents and conspired against the Packers? Against us? Obviously, this story is not without its detractors. According to an NBC source,
[Favre] in a text message to an NBC reporter before the Seahawks-Buccaneers primetime game, Favre strongly denied the report.
In case you forgot, Brett Favre loves his text messages. He's like a 14-year old girl. Whether it's to Ted Thompson, reporters, or his BFF Jill, Favre loves to txt.
So it looks like this story is founded on something. Even if Favre says that it's "total B.S." (or, in his native tongue, "omg liek tbs lol"), he did contact the Lions.
So Favre says he didn't do anything. So too does Peter King of NBC, who has to readjust his trousers every time Brett Favre is mentioned. Who do we believe: Glazer or Favre/King? I personally believe Jay Glazer on this one, but if he's not enough, how about Jason Wilde of the 'Wisconsin State Journal'? He confirms Glazer's initial reports here. Greg Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is on the case as well.
So how does the rest of the team feel about this report? Most of them don't want to talk about it, but Greg Bedard managed to get two prominent Packers to open up about it. And trust me, they are not pleased. Cullen Jenkins was one...
"I don’t know if he’s done it or not. It’s one of those things, personally and I don’t know the situation, but I just think it’s kind of messed up how he left here. Hasn’t talked to Aaron [Rodgers], wished Aaron good luck or anything or like that but he’s called everybody else, called Tony Romo and stuff like that. I don’t have nothing against Brett personally. But I think in his position, he could at least show a little more class, a little more respect to Aaron in that regard. If that was the case, if he did talk to the coaches, I could see if he told his coaches if they were going to play us. That’s all right. But if you go out of your way to talk to another team, nah, I don’t think that’s right."
...and Charles Woodson was the other:
"He contacted them? I don’t respect that. If they called him and he gives them information, that’s one thing. But to seek a team out, because you know I guess you’re trying to sabotage this team, you know I don’t respect that. I know he’s been the greatest player around here for a long time but there’s no honor in that."
People who still defend Favre will say "Oh, but you won the game against Detroit so handily! It's clear that Favre didn't help them!" I know a few guys who beg to differ. Let's remember the real story of the Detroit game, shall we?
Green Bay opened up a 21-0 lead in the first half. This is because Detroit sucks. However, in the second half, here's a listing of Green Bay's offensive accomplishments: fumble, field goal, punt, fumble (for a safety), punt, field goal, touchdown, end of game. Green Bay's offense was limited to three scores in seven possessions in the second half, and the touchdown only came after Jon Kitna's going-out-of-business-bonanza of interceptions in the fourth quarter.
And remember during that one point in the fourth quarter when Detroit took the lead? I do. It was Charles Woodson's heroics that saved the day; Green Bay was actually in danger of losing that game. To the Lions. Go ahead and tell me that Detroit was talented enough to make that happen on their own. I dare you.
And it wasn't like the Minnesota game or the Seattle game were cakewalks. Yes, Green Bay won all three games. But they were much closer than they should have been, given the performance of all three opponents over the course of the whole season.
This is unforgivable. And I mean really unforgivable. This is like in 'Training Day' when Denzel set's up Ethan Hawke to get killed at Smiley's house. This is total and utter garbage. I am absolutely livid that Favre thinks that this sort of behavior is OK. Just because the organization didn't bend over backwards for him like they had for 16 years, he throws his legacy to the wayside and tries to undermine the team. This is way worse than T.O. in San Fran or Philly. This is on a whole other level.
Brett Favre is an arrogant-selfish-stuck-up-diva and should never set foot in Wisconsin ever again. He treats Aaron Rodgers like a leper while treating Tony Romo like a son. He bitches about even mentioning the thought of being a backup, even though he had officially retired. He takes potshots at the Packer organization, which was the team that gave him the chance he needed to succeed. He tries to leverage a trade to our fiercest rival and complains when he actually does get his wish.
But who's going to call him on it? Favre is a media darling. He's a national sports hero. He's the real-life Iron Man, the guy who just wants to play and have fun. ESPN loves him, Fox Sports adores him, and there's still a large contingent of Green Bay fans that give him a free pass because he's Brett Favre. He should be put into the HOF as a Jet. No way should he get into the Green Bay Hall of Fame. No way should he get his number retired at Lambeau Field. He should be reviled and detested as much as anyone who has disgraced the honor and tradition that football represents. But I'll bet you that justice goes unserved, and it makes me sick.
Now you might understand why I thought of the song at the top of the post. He toyed with us for years. Then he finally left us on good terms. He tried to come back to us, but when the door was opened, he changed his mind. He tried to come back to us again, but when we weren't buying it, he tried to get back at us. He left us again. And now, he's betrayed us. And he will never, ever, ever get what he deserves.
Brett Favre, you don't know how sick you make me.
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His actions in the offseason showed that he thought of himself as being more important than the team. This just puts it over the top. He has now joined Belicheck in the “I am a douchebag, I can do what I want” camp. Maybe Brett should stop worrying about helping the opponents of the Packers and start worrying about beating his own opponents. Mangini cant be too happy that Farve was helping the Lions gameplan against the Pack when Farve should have been preparing for his own game against the Patriots.
Does anyone not feel that we are gonna be a better team without him in the long run? Good riddance and stay classy Brett.
by juggernaut400 on Oct 20, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not important
Lets just pretend for a moment that Favre never played every game for the Packers, never set up numerous community organizations, never turned his life around in front of our very eyes, and was never ashamed to be unabashedly honest in every interview press conference. Wait, why are we forgetting this???
Forget the haters, Brett. Sometimes things happen, and they’re out of your control, and I, for one, hope he has a very good year in New York and takes that team as far as they can go.
by PackaCracka on Oct 20, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is that what's important to you?
In my opinion, this latest stunt negates all the good that he has done in the past. Yes, his ability to overcome injuries and substance abuse and his philanthropy are good things about him. I’m not trying to call you out or even change your mind. I just want to know why you feel the way you do, because I don’t get how any Packer fan wouldn’t be outraged.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
by Mitchell_M on Oct 20, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are confusing Packer fans with Favre Fans
Two totally different animals The people wearing Favre Jets Jerseys would forgive him for any trespass. What is the old political joke “Brett could get caught in bed with a live boy or a dead girl and they would look the other way”
I think long term this destroys his relationship with the team and the fans, but who knows what will happen 20 years from now. Hell the Eagles got back together and Cheech and Chong are reunited so maybe there is a Dean and Martin or Krusty and Sideshow Bob moment in the future but I really do believe that will happen.
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
by WSB Chris on Oct 22, 2008 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops
looks like he didn’t do anything. Being honest and doing nothing wrong “destroys” his relationship with his fans.
I don’t really think of all the Thompson cult and Favre haters as Packers fans.
by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Without you we would never know who are the real Packer fans and who are the ones who are really just Thompson worshipers. The number of Ted Thompson jerseys in the crowd has really gotten out of hand, hasn’t it?
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 24, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes things happen, and they’re out of your control
But sometimes things ARE in your control, and he has handled every single one of those piss poorly. I’m with Mitchell in that I’m not calling you out or even suggesting that you are wrong. The list of admirable things that he has done for and with Green Bay is long and storied. I never would have believed in March when he retired that he would have put so much effort into destroying 16 years of goodwill in less than a year. Don’t forget that Packer fans are the ones who bought his jerseys, supported him through his addiction struggles, his family crises, bought every book that he, or his wife, or his mom, put out, and showered him with constant praise. How quickly HE has forgotten this and decided that it was more important to try to get petty revenge against management and not realize that such actions hurt his former teammates (who he supposedly still cares about) and his fans more than they hurt management.
I absolutely believe that he did this. The only shocking thing to me was that I wasn’t even mildly surprised when I read this report. Angered, yes. Surprised, no.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 20, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why it's important to me
It’s important because it’s what I can see and perceive. We’re all hallucinating if we can say that the Packer organization treats everybody fairly; its a business and its run like one. Who’s really to know what was said to Brett behind closed doors? Or what he said, or demanded? All I know is what Brett and Mike and Ted say what happened, because if you’re listening to the press and all that sensationalism then you will get caught up in the truth and lies of story-making and the drama of human imagination. Quite frankly, he hasn’t done a single thing I wouldn’t do if I were in his situation. I just don’t believe that he would tear down his former team-mates by sharing information with an opponent. If it is true, well that becomes a different post.
The only knock I have on Brett is, if a man says he’s never going to play for another team, then a man needs to honor that. But if he was told ’You’ll never play for the Packers again’ and he was shown the door, then yeah I’d take my services elsewhere.
by PackaCracka on Oct 21, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't think of anything that Thompson handled honestly and morally
as the story evolves it looks like there is nothing to it. Call me when there is even good circumstantial evidence.
by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you live or work in Bristol, Connecticut?
Oh, wait! Is that you, Peter King?
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Oct 20, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
That I need to know more to find out if this is true.
However, if it is, I’ll be taking my Favre posters off the wall. I still believe that he is a very good person in real life. Inside football, he has been a total ass ever since he first declared he wanted to play again. He’s been bitter and juvenile in every regard.
by Pack Man on Oct 20, 2008 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trying to avoid it
I’ve been trying to avoid this story after I first read about it, and I had been hoping it would go away. If Favre did really sell out the Packers, that would suck and he can go stick it somewhere the sun don’t shine.
But ever since he announced his unretirement, there has been a lot of stuff about him that’s either been complete fiction or blown out of proportion. LIke the whole Vikings tampering and Favre has a Packer owned cell phone thing. Yes he called Minnesota’s coaches but the NFL said it was nothing, and no he wasn’t using a cell phone owned by the Packers. I’m not defending him, I’m just saying I doubt we know the whole story. And even if we did know the whole story, maybe the stuff he said was football talk but obvious to anyone that watches a Packers game.
Unless a smoking gun shows up, something like a recording of Favre talking about something very specific to the Packers, it’s all just speculation.
by Brandon on Oct 20, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's making me contemplate
wearing the Favre jerseys I own. My gamer and my at home jerseys are both Favres. I’m unemployed with no money, but i might have to jump on something else quick.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
by TkGoUWGB on Oct 20, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not taking it too seriously...
…I’m with those who won’t jump the gun on this…this is going to be another “he said, he said” or perhaps “he texted, he texted” in the case of Favre.
My original impression of the story was this…you know how Brett just loves to talk and talk and talk…and blabber to virtual incoherence (ah yes, remember those post game press conferences?)…I mean talk about stream of conciousness. Well my feeling is that he called Matt Millen to chew the fat and Matt Millin put him on speaker and let brett blab and blab until brett started stream of consciously talking about what green bay does or doesn’t do. lol…At least that’s what I would do.
“Hey brett how are you doing…?” that’s all that’s needed to get brett to spill his inner guts…
maybe that’s what I am hoping kinda happened.
by PackFaninFL on Oct 20, 2008 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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