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Where's The Story?

I know, I know.  I already ripped into FavreSo did Mike Vandermuse of the Green Bay Press Gazette.  I'm probably making the whole thing worse by not letting it go.  But I have to bring this up: isn't it just a little bit curious that ESPN, the self-proclaimed "world wide leader" in sports, didn't pick up this story when it came out?

As of right now, there is nothing on ESPN.com even coming close to mentioning the Glazer report or Favre's rebuttal.  Absolutely nothing from Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday.  Three whole days passed, and the biggest sports media corporation kept it's mouth shut.  Why?

The simple answer?  There is none available, but we can figure it out.  First off, let's establish this basic premise: ESPN loves Brett Favre.  Or, in Favre's language, "omg espn <3 bf 4eva".  Favre is a guaranteed ratings boost along any medium.  Even Jemele Hill could get more views if she wrote a Favre story.  (In case you couldn't tell, I hate Page 2's Jemele Hill.  Everything is either about race or women.  She's a female Stephen A. Smith, minus the gratuitous shouting.)

So why not chase the ratings on this story?  Was it just ineptitude on the part of ESPN reporters?  Absolutely not.  At least not this time.  According to Mike Florio of the Sporting News, it was the ESPN executives that instructed their editors to not report the storyHere's the memo, plus some inherent questions that come along with it:

First, much like the rumors from several years back regarding Kordell Stewart’s sexuality, the story eventually becomes the story.  The mere fact that there’s an unresolved pissing match between Favre and Jay Glazer while a Lions head coach repeats "no comment" like Drew Rosenhaus barking "next question" is newsworthy, regardless of whether Glazer’s report is accurate.

Second, we know for a fact that folks in the building are privately saying that believe that Glazer’s report is true. 

Third, Glazer has a long history of being on the money.  Shouldn’t that be a factor in the question of whether the story at least merits a mention?  

Fourth, what’s the problem with reporting that the story isn’t accurate?  Doesn’t it make ESPN look good in comparison to a competitor?

On Sportscenter this morning, ESPN finally brought up the story, recapping the whole thing.  Glazer first broke the story, Favre and his lapdog denied it, and Detroit Lions' representatives stick to their "no comment".  Jay Glazer says that he stands behind the story "1,000 percent".  ESPN's Mike Golic in his commentary said that this sort of thing isn't uncommon and, as long as the player didn't contact the team, he was totally OK with it.  Golic also is a spokesman for NutriSystem.  So take that however you wish.

On Wednesday, Favre addressed the issue in his weekly press conference (which I haven't found a transcript of yet).  According to the press conference, Favre confirmed contact between himself and then-Detroit GM Matt Millen.  According to Favre, Millen called him to talk about hunting, and the conversation just happened to steer towards football.  Millen asked Favre about Green Bay's gameplan for Detroit last year, and he "didn't give him any gameplanning.  I haven't been in that offense in over a year.  I don't know what else to tell you.  It's really pretty simple."  Quite a far cry from "total B.S."

So what does this all mean?  Well, it certainly spices things up a little.  It really comes down to who called who.  If someone can prove that one party called the other beyond a reasonable doubt, then that will decide the story.  If Millen called Favre, it's much less inflammatory.  If Favre called Millen, it's...well, we've already been there.

Two side notes: Jets fans let out a collective "meh" to the whole story.  I don't blame them; there were no rules broken, the Jets don't play Green Bay unless they get to the Super Bowl (which is increasingly unlikely as the season progresses), and Gang Green has their own issues.

I originally got the link to the Gazette article from my buddy Brady via AIM, who followed his anti-Favre tirade with a ringing endorsement of Aaron Rodgers:

ive been saying this since day one, but rodgers is a beast, and aint no one gunna convice me otherwise. so what if he got hurt in the past? he never had to play, he was the backup of the most durable and one of the greatest QB's of all time. now, he owns the team, and he is doing a damn good job. IMO he is 7-7 in these games, has yet to put us in a poistion to lose.

Agreed, Brady.  Wholeheartedly.

UPDATE: ESPN finally decided to act like a news outlet and report the story.  They also included Favre's Wednesday press conference, which had this little tidbit:

Favre, wearing a green Jets sweatshirt and a navy New York Titans cap, held his composure throughout the news conference. He clenched his jaw a few times and only once raised his voice in anger, when he was told that former teammate Charles Woodson said if the Lions called Favre, it's OK, but not if it happened the other way around.  "Go back and tell Charles I did not call them," an irritated Favre said. "I didn't call 'em."

Maybe you should call some of these guys yourself, Brett.  Even a text here or there would be OK.  In fairness, he seems very adamant about denying the report.  If he wants to try and clear things up so that Packer fans don't hate him quite as much, I'm cool with that.

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Does this change anything?
Absolutely, this isn't nearly as bad as I thought.
17 votes
Not at all, Favre cannot be trusted to tell the truth, and he squealed either way.
25 votes
I don't care, just make this story go away!
19 votes

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How about that Brandon Chillar? I think I have a full-blown Golic/Greeny man-crush on this guy. Talk about turning a team around! They put him in nickle back schemes instead of AJ and the tight end is actually contained! Now there’s a story green bay should be enthused with!

by PackaCracka on Oct 22, 2008 11:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you're absolutely right

I’m embarassed that I have focused all my attention on a player not even with the team anymore instead of someone making enormous contributions on the defensive side of the ball. I’ll try to rectify this later in the week.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Oct 22, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chillar's been awesome

Remember that he accepted less money to play here. Ted Thompson makes minimal moves in free agency, but when he does he hits ‘em out of the park.
Jermele Hill is bad, and ESPN’s replacement pretty much for Jason Whitlock. (If theres a silver lining to the Chiefs being as bad as they are, is that I get to hear Jason Whitlock beautifully rip into the Chiefs and “King Carl”)

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Oct 22, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry, but isn't there also a believability test to this story

I’m not a Packers fan, but I did watch the Lions-Packers game. Didn’t Rodgers totally light up the Lions defense in the first half. If Favre gave Millen advice, it was obviously pretty crappy. The game only got close after the Lions made halftime adjustments.

This to me would be like if Ray Lewis left the Ravens, and then called up Chad Johnson some time before the game. Ray calls CJ all the time. We already know they’re close friends. If the Bengals offense got shut down the next time they played the Ravens, and then I started hearing (Oh Ray gave the Bengals tips), I would probably dismiss those rumors as highly implausible.

We seem to lack evidence on the field, evidence off the field, any actual legal wrongdoing. The only thing we have is a motive, and even that is shaky. That’s like accusing Hillary of conspiring to kill Obama in February. Sure you can come up with a reason why she might want too, but that doesn’t make the story any more believable.

by math_geek on Oct 22, 2008 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

duly noted,

and you’re absolutely right; there is no legal infraction in the entire story.

However, i think the Lewis-Ocho Cinco relationship is a bad analogy. Yes, they’re friends. But Chad Johnson isn’t the GM of the team (even though he tries to make all sorts of trades.) Matt Millen had an influence (no matter how misguided and ineffective) over the team as a whole, and if this had happened against a team with actual talent, you’d have your on-field evidence.

Brett Favre is friends with Matt Millen. I have no idea why, but whatever. No problem. Favre could be friends with the most despised character in all of the NFL and it wouldn’t matter.

But if that friend has a position in an organization where information can be used to affect the gameplan, and it’s the week that those two teams (GB and Detroit) play, I have a problem with that.

All in all, this is just one more incident in a long list of Favre treating the franchise he represented for 16 years like crap. Personally, I feel that the biggest affront to any “loyalty” he has to the Packers was when he called Tony Romo after Romo broke his pinky. You mean to tell me that Romo, a quarterback on a major competitor with Green Bay deserves a phone call after a finger injury, but Rodgers, the guy that backed you up for three years and was your protege (even though you resisted it for the first two seasons) SEPARATES HIS THROWING SHOULDER, and he doesn’t get so much as a text message?

And here’s something else: I’ve heard that last year, in the NFC championship game, when the Packers won the toss in overtime, the offensive plan was to run the ball almost exclusively. McCarthy felt that the Giants’ defense was susceptible to the run and that it was the best way to get into scoring position. Favre promptly ignores his coach because he wants to throw the ball, he changes the play, throws the interception (which was one of the worst of his career), and then brushes off McCarthy after the game when the coach confronted him in the locker room. Like it wasn’t Favre’s fault.

Is this story true? I have no idea. But if it is, it certainly shows how Favre-centric everything is with himself. There’s a reason why he has the career interception record; the guy wants to be the hero all the time so that he can get all the glory.

Ugh. Sorry for the length of this response. But you caught me when I had time and an opportunity to rant.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Oct 22, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to be done with this

I loved Brett Favre for 16 years. I haven’t respected, or understood, anything that he has done since March 6, 2008 when he held his press conference. This episode doesn’t necessarily anger me too much, in and of itself. What does upset me is that when I first heard about this story, I didn’t doubt that it could have happened and I wasn’t even surprised at all. THAT is what I find so tough to deal with. I hope that something is wrong with Brett, not because I want him to be hurt or anything like that. I’m hoping for an explanation to his actions that doesn’t make me feel that I’ve been duped for 16 years, but I have no expectations of that ever happening. I’m very disappointed with that.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Oct 22, 2008 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he wasn't in a position to affect the gameplan

From Trent Dilfer to a host of others, they’ve all laughed at the notion you’re trying to sell and I mean literally laughed.

Calling Tony Romo is included in a list of “loyalty” transgressions? Besides the fact that it may not be true, i have a hard time finding ANY fault whatsoever.

Given how inaccurate your rant is, I don’t believe the NFC championship story. Really, the story of that game, rather than an interception was how horribly McCarthy’s game plan worked. You can throw the abysmal failure of the defensive coaching staff as well. But the story is the same: Favre has to be superhuman or he’s a bum.

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the story is the same: Favre has to be superhuman or he’s a bum.

Isn’t that the point that you are arguing? You clearly think that he is superhuman and is incapable of being questioned on anything.

I love all of the Favre-lovers (since all the rest of us are clearly Favre-haters) claim that because we beat Detroit 48-25 that demonstrates that Favre is innocent. I don’t think his speaking with Millen, et al. is as damnable an offense as some do, but I don’t think it has anything to do with whether it was illegal or not. I’m disappointed that he his hatred of TT & MM is so deep that he doesn’t even think of what his old teammates and fans would think of this.

And I couldn’t care less about Tony Romo. It would be nice if Brett had called Rodgers to congratulate him or wish him the best, but I understand it would be a very tough position for him to be in, especially with an ego as large as his.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Oct 24, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's fine. I was just really curious

Also, he probably has the career interception record partially because he played for a really long time.

I was watching, and rooting for, the Pack in the NFC championship game. I remember the run not working out so well in that game. That was a horrible interception though.

The Favre/Rodgers thing is a valid criticism, but also not particularly new. All Quarterbacks are like that. Joe Montana still refuses to go to 49ers events because he can’t stand to be on the same field as Steve Young, all because he hated that he was being pushed by Young in the later stages of his career.

I still think Chad Johnson would be able to capitalize about information about the Ravens defense. A functional team would be able to capitalize on information gleaned by it’s starting players. Now, you can make the argument that Cincy isn’t functional (neither are the Lions), but we’ll pretend they are for the sake of argument.

I was trying to think of another division-rival friendship. Closest I could come to was the Ravens and Phil Savage, GM of the Browns. Bengals fans called Willie Anderson a traitor because Anderson helped the Ravens with their defensive game plan when he was signed after being cut after training camp by Cincy. But Willie was actually a member of the Ravens, and I’m sure we both agree that your primary responsibility is to the team you belong to NOW.

For all we know, Favre has been friends with Millen since Millen was a color guy on the TV where he belongs. Just because the man can’t possibly run an NFL team doesn’t mean he’s not fun to have a beer or go hunting with.

Look, when Lawyer Milloy went to the Bills, the Bills ended up completely destroying the Patriots 31-0, despite New England having a much better team. That game was one of two NE losses the entire season. That makes it extremely likely that Milloy had a huge impact on game planning for the Patriots.

Here, Rodgers torched the Lions, and no-one but Jay Glazer (who won’t reveal his sources) has any credible claim that Favre did anything.

For the record, I think it would be beyond classless for Favre to give tips on how to beat his old team to the Lions. It’s completely not appropriate unless you are working or playing for the team about to play the Packers. Which is why I am so skeptical of the report. It’s a very serious charge, with very little evidence to back it up.

by math_geek on Oct 22, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Facts you ignore

Sensational stories filled with personal attacks based on unnamed anonymous sources are routinely not reported. In fact if they were about someone you like, you’d rant about that. Guess how news organizations achieve that? They send out a memo. You fail completely to provide a reason that the story should be covered. And by the way, Mike Florio is the whore who runs profootballtalk. He’s been roundly criticized by Packers fans for years and it really is nothing more than a gossip site, but the Favre haters glom onto him immediately the same way they grabbed this story because it fulfills an emotional need, facts being irrelevant.

You also ignore the pattern of fake stories that come out of the Packers like the fake cell phone story or the fake story that a plane was chartered for Favre. Subsequent evidence contradicts those tales.

Beyond that the basic premise of the story is laughably stupid. Favre couldn’t effect any significant change and its questionable whether he could create any change. Again, reality is irrelevant. Talk radio is filled with angry callers talking about him “giving them the playbook” (which he doesn’t have) or setting up his old friends for injuries. When the story first came out a constant theme was that it wouldn’t be bad if Millen initiated the call, but because it was Favre calling it was despicable. Beyond the illogic of that, when alternate evidence appears, then the conditions of hatred shift. Now he’s hated because of [fill in the blank].

Glazer is a person who is touted as some sort of expert reporter because he was leaked stories by the Packers. How hard is it to figure out the genesis of the story is the same people who hired a professional liar, Ari Fleischer, to run the throw Favre in the trash operation. His statements are patently false unless he has a tape of the conversation. In other words he can’t 1,000 percent guarantee the story.

by ol Pete on Oct 23, 2008 3:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You also ignore the pattern of fake stories that come out of the Packers like the fake cell phone story or the fake story that a plane was chartered for Favre. Subsequent evidence contradicts those tales.

Is this similar to how you ignore any and all of Favre’s inconsistencies and flat-out lies? If you are willing to dismiss anything a reporter says because of one bad story why are you so willing to believe everything out of Favre’s mouth and ignore all of his stories that don’t check out?

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Oct 24, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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