Lemons, Superheroes, and the Packers' Run Defense
APC's fearless leader posted this in his take on McCarthy's latest press conference:
The problem with the run defense is that they're trying to hard? I'm not buying that lemon.
Buy that lemon, Brandon! From my experience, the "My biggest weakness is that I work too hard" sentiment is true. And I can prove it...sorta.
Here's how it happens: you get defensive players that, as individuals, are strong against the run. I reference players like Ryan Pickett, Aaron Kampman, Johnny Jolly, A.J. Hawk and Atari Bigby (when healthy). Not to say that the rest of the defense sucks against the run (except for KGB), but these guys are particularly skilled.
Then, those individuals form a unit of 11, go through training camp and practice, and everything is all about gap control and responsibilities. When executed correctly, the run defense is foolproof because you always have enough players to control all the gaps. I would argue that the Packers had a unit like this at the beginning of the season.
However, when one player misses an assignment, it's like a crack in the levee, and the run defense breaks. And when that happens, the players that are usually stout against the run try to cover their responsibilities and the neighboring player's responsibilities. This is what McCarthy means by players "doing too much". By taking on additional responsibility, they leave themselves spread too thin, which results in a domino effect and the subsequent breakdown of the entire system.
That's what's been happening this season so far, and a perfect example is Nick Barnett. As noted on this site, Barnett has been M.I.A. this season, and I think this is exactly what's happened. As the injuries pile up, Barnett (the leader of the defense) says to himself "That's OK, I can handle both gaps." I call this the "superhero effect", where a player puts too much stock in his abilities and tries to 'save the world', as it were.
But Nick Barnett is no Superman. There are maybe one or two players in the entire league who can manage this (my mind jumps to Ray Lewis circa 2000). So now he's playing two gaps instead of the one he should be focused on, and misses an assignment. Then another player tries to cover the gap Barnett missed on the next play. Then another player tries to cover that gap, and so on, and so forth.
How is this problem solved? Two things: personal discipline from the players and general discipline from the coaches. The coaches have to install the system and maintain it throughout practice, and the players have to be level-headed enough to buy into the gameplan and avoid the "superhero effect".
That's my take on McCarthy's statement during his press conference. But maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps I'm just adding a lot of sugar to make lemonade.
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But I’m turning that comment from McCarthy around. Instead of doing too much, one player is beaten on a play and the whole defense comes crashing down. McCarthy’s too good a coach to call out his players, even a hint of it in a press conference sends him into a furious backpedal. Whether they are getting beaten, or just doing too much, too many times no one is stepping up to make a play.
The defense was playing real hard the first couple weeks, and back in the preseason too, but whether it’s the injuries or the pressure of losing three straight, they didn’t look the same last week. Losing can be contagious, a bad or depressed attitude can bring the whole unit down. Hopefully these guys have so much confidence in themselves as athletes, as they should, they’re all solid young players, that they can turn it around.
by Brandon on Oct 8, 2008 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget that Aaron Rouse was out last week also
He’s probably better against the run than he is the pass.
Mike Montgomery was pissing me off last sunday when he kept pursuing all the way down the line on alot of plays away from his side. Atlanta ran a reverse that was successful against his side last week and I wouldn’t be surprised if Seattle does the same against Montgomery last week, so Mitchell M, I certainly think your theory holds some water.
As Mike McCarthy said in his news conference, AJ Hawk just did not have the same motor against Atlanta last week as he did before the injury. Before he got hurt, I thought he was playing at a very high level and looked as explosive as he’d ever looked.
We should all realize that Atari Bigby is more important to this defense than we thought, because ever since halftime of the Lions game, when Atari got injured, the defense has been bad with spurts of good sprinkled in against Tampa. He’s better in coverage than we all give him credit for and hes one of the better safeties in football.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Oct 10, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great point about Bigby
I think you hit it right on the head, jobe. Bigby has established himself as a great player in this defense; he’s come a long way since his NFL Europe days.
I remember watching a game where Bigby was playing, noticing that he had the Packers’ patch on his jersey. Dude was flying around out there, but all I could do was laugh about how his first name was Atari. Dude shut me up for sure. He’s like a dreadlocked version of Bob Sanders; when he’s in, the defense is solid, and when he’s out, the defense suffers.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
by Mitchell_M on Oct 10, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying he could have been a pro bowler last year
but I thought he deserved the bid over Ken Hamlin.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Oct 11, 2008 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
defense
The Packers are woefully thin depth wise . There are not enough quality players to fill the gaps left by Bigby Clifton Harris Hawk et al. Coach is trying to keep this all quiet but the silence is deafening. Our Packers REALLY need a win in Seattle this weekend AND a win next weekend at home against Indy to keep the hope alive for any post season play. Watch who coach plays as well as what sort of intensity the players have. These two weeks are the season.
by mikem on Oct 11, 2008 12:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The good news about the Colts
obviously is that Bob Sanders is out. While I would rank Dwight Freeney as the more valuable player overall, I would put Bob Sanders more valuable to the Colts, because the entire Colts defensive scheme funnels everything to Bob Sanders, so he can make plays.
But besides Sanders, Peyton Manning has a great shot of getting hurt this week against a really scary Baltimore defense. Tony Ugoh is absolutely no match for Terrell Suggs. Going to the Ravens training camp this year, I saw this defense was really going to be special, pretty much every defensive call in camp was Ed Reed playing center field in the cover one, and mind you he was injured. The Ravens coaches trust Ed Reed with their lives, and he’s a really special player and sure fire hall of famer that we don’t give nearly enough attention to. I’d take him over Bob Sanders and maybe even Troy Polamalu.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Oct 11, 2008 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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