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Rogers Blames Self for Loss; Doesn't Lose Respect

From the Wisconsin State Journal, as reported by Jason Wilde.

 

One of the reasons why I love this guy. Intangibles and accountability are things you can't teach at this level.

Wisconsin State Journal - Packers: In contrast with Favre, Rodgers fine with accepting blame

 

GREEN BAY -- Aaron Rodgers has said over and over that he learned so much during his three years behind Brett Favre -- in spite of Favre's less-than-enthusiastic approach to mentoring him.

What the Green Bay Packers first-year starter usually doesn't say is how he learned some of his most valuable lessons from the legendary quarterback. While he learned plenty about what to do from watching Favre, he also learned a few things about what not to do.

For all his remarkable accomplishments, taking the blame publicly when things went wrong was never Favre's strong suit. His explanation was often that he was "just trying to make a play."

While Rodgers wouldn't touch the question Wednesday of whether Favre's public approach to admitting fault after games influenced his own style -- "I'm not going to comment on that," he said with a grin -- Rodgers said he has always believed it is the quarterback's job to accept the most blame whenever his team loses.

That was his approach at Pleasant Valley High School in Chico, Calif., at Butte (Junior) College and at the University of California, and it's especially important to him to be that way now. That's why he claimed responsibility for Sunday's overtime loss at undefeated Tennessee.

"When you're winning, the quarterback a lot of times gets too much credit. So I find it important to deflect credit to people who are often overlooked," said Rodgers, who enters Sunday's game at Minnesota having completed 63.7 percent of his passes for 1,982 yards with 13 touchdowns, five interceptions and 17 sacks (95.3 passer rating).

"But on the flip-side of that, when you lose, you need to be accountable for the way you play. If I didn't play well, I'm going to be completely honest -- `I didn't play well, it's my fault.' Now, anyone else in the locker room can say whatever they want. But I'm going to be honest when I take the stand and say how I played. And if I played real well, I expect to play well. If we lose? My fault."

That willingness to chuck himself under the bus first hasn't gone unnoticed by his teammates.

"That's what all great players do. He's a leader, he's our quarterback. He puts it all on himself. That's part of Aaron's nature," guard Jason Spitz said. "Here's the thing about the way Aaron acts and the way he presents himself: He's got character. He's fighting for us, and we're fighting for him. And that's what you want in your quarterback. You want to know that he's not going to point fingers. Even if it's not his fault, you respect a man more for saying, `The buck stops here.'"

Added offensive coordinator Joe Philbin: "We want all 11 guys to be responsible and accountable to one another. Is it nice that Aaron is? Absolutely. But we want the guys that cause a sack or the guy that dropped a pass -- everybody's got to be held to the same level of accountability for us to really be a great offense. Is it nice for your quarterback, because he's the guy a lot of people look to? Sure. That's a positive. But we're not going to get real far if he's the only guy accepting that standard."

After the Tennessee loss, Rodgers said his end-zone interception and sack-fumble to set up a Titans field goal cost his team the game. He said the same thing after the team's Sept. 28 loss at Tampa Bay, when he threw three picks while playing with a dislocated right (throwing) shoulder.

Packers coach Mike McCarthy admitted Wednesday that he might have been a bit too harsh in his criticism of Rodgers during his day-after news conference, when he said Rodgers' decision-making wasn't good enough and that he checked out of runs and into pass plays too many times in the game.

"The thing about Aaron and the criticism from myself and everyone involved, there's a lot of positive things that Aaron Rodgers did in the Tennessee game. It just seems like we didn't focus on those as much," McCarthy said. "I think he can play better than he's played, and he's played pretty darn good.

"He's probably too honest. I think he gives you a very honest answer. I don't ever see him try to skirt issues. ... (But) he didn't cost us that football game. Aaron Rodgers didn't lose that game."

If you ask Rodgers, though, he did.

"The biggest thing for me, I want to be a good decision-maker. And I knew I had about a half-dozen plays where I made an incorrect decision," Rodgers said. "A lot of times, the stats or the TV (broadcast) doesn't show the whole story. I threw for over 300 yards, but I could've done a lot better. I threw an interception in a key spot, I fumbled the ball in a key spot. Those are things I'm not OK with as a quarterback or as the leader of this football team. I feel like it's my responsibility and my personality to take the blame when it is my fault."

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I love the way that Rodgers handles himself

He has been nothing but class so far and I respect him a ton. The most impressive thing to me is that even though he is a first year starter, he is being treated like he is a 5 year starter. We expect him to play well and when he has a game like his one against the Titans where he plays pretty well overall but makes a few mistakes (the pick and the fumble), we tend to harp on the mistakes and ignore the good. If he plays a good game it is expected and nothing much to comment on. I’m very pleased with the transition that he has provided.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Nov 6, 2008 10:54 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

show me an athlete or coach that doesn't use non-stop cliches

or is that Ari Fleischer’s influence?

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Nov 6, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

cliches are an unfortunate reality in sports

It’s actually worse in the NBA and MLB. But Rodgers is certainly holding himself accountable, and that is huge.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Nov 6, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

non-stop?

Just about everybody.

by ol Pete on Nov 6, 2008 5:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Did you even read it?

by PackaCracka on Nov 6, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a big fan of Rodgers already.

I hope he’s leading this team for years to come.

by Pack Man on Nov 6, 2008 5:45 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wilde shows no class

How low will J. Wilde actually sink ? the things he now accuse Favre of are very far reality.

First of all, you win as a team, and loose as a team, Allways!!

Rodgers has handeled himself excelent in the media so far, nothing other than his first comments this spring about people needing to shut up and get onboard, can be considered even half bad.
Favre on the other side, has had his fair share of media bloopers, some of the might be missquoted and/or missunderstood by both media and the public.
But to say Favre never took the blame for a loss ?? Wilde has not done his job propperly, check out some old postgame press conferences, and you’ll hear Favre say he made misstakes, he could have done this or that better. Will you hear him say excatly “I blame this loss on my self” no, but you won’t hear those excact words from Rodgers or any other QB either, neither should we expect to hear that.
I have never heard Favre blame a team mate for a loss or a bad play either, but many times heard him put blame upon him self for either a interception or other bad play.

Football is the ultimate team sport, you can’t blame a single player for a loss.
Wilde is showing his redicoulus side on this one.

by Jarlsberg on Nov 12, 2008 11:18 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wilde hates Favre

He doesn’t need to research anything, he already knows the truth. Facts are irrelevant. Wilde’s story that he “verified” Glazergate was also grossly dishonest. All he did was verify through anonymous sources that Favre had talked to Millen and none of his sources were principals.

I think its absurd to take sole responsibility when it isn’t true.

by ol Pete on Nov 12, 2008 11:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

absurd?

It’s all subjective. I find it absurd to believe that one player can’t lose the game. He can, and one player and his mistakes often are the tipping point.

I, for one, never thought Favre cared much about his performance in the OT loss to NY last year. After the game, he said

“It’s very disappointing,” Favre said. “We had numerous opportunities today, numerous opportunities this year. Everything seemed to fall in line for us. I’m disappointed that last pass I threw was intercepted and gave them a chance to win.”

Favre said he hasn’t decided if he’ll be back next year.

“I’m not going to rush to make any quick decision, but I think probably it’ll be much quicker than it has been in the past — and people will probably appreciate that,” Favre said.

“But I’m just going to try to enjoy this season we had as much as I can and try to block this game out. It’s going to be very hard. I’m not going to let this game sway my decision one way or another.”

Not exactly a whole lot of remorse here…

by PackaCracka on Nov 13, 2008 9:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like remorse to me

Its worth noting that McCarthy’s play calling in that game failed miserably and the defense wasn’t very good and Al Harris was awful. I don’t remember a lot of accepting of responsibility by them.

Its subjective whether Rodgers play lost the Tennessee game or any other game, but I don’t think anyone really thinks that. To claim something that nobody thinks is so is stupid. By the logic that a single play, isolated from the game, is the determining factor of the outcome, Mason Crosby is responsible for the loss to the Vikings.

Taking sole responsibility when it isn’t true is absurd.

In the Wilde woman’s article its interesting that Colledge got in on the Favre trashing. Seeing how many times he gets beaten and how poorly he did protecting his quarterback, maybe he would have been better off saying what a shitty job he has been doing. Maybe that’s Favre’s fault as well.

by ol Pete on Nov 13, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Play calling failed?

I’m sorry to keep revisiting this, but you’re flat out wrong. The O-Line did it’s job, Brett was well protected that game. McCarthy did his job, going to what made them successful throughout the year; going five wide and relying on separation by the receivers. Favre failed to do his job. On the last play in OT against the Giants, everyone but the receiver Brett threw it to was open, and Brett still blamed Donald for running the wrong route. He under-threw it to a covered receiver and LOST THE GAME.

It isn’t absurd to take responsibility, even when it isn’t you’re fault, and I’ll tell you why. It’s because that’s what being a team leader is about. It isn’t about “It’s too bad.” There should be more to an NFL QB than just throwing a ball.

by PackaCracka on Nov 17, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

no its silly

Making up things to sound cool isn’t leadership.

And you’re flat out wrong. You’re harping on a single play and i’m talking about the game. The play calling was mediocre at best. Really that’s generous. McCarthy has as much responsibility as anyone for the team’s failure including the horrible performances on defense.

But how about Ryan Grant? He had a big day didn’t he? Or Al Harris? Should I go on?

In your world Favre, unlike Rodgers, is supposed to cure any shortcoming of all players. The very article you post he is self critical of the interception and doesn’t blame Driver.

Myths are often more comfortable than reality.

by ol Pete on Nov 17, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One more try

Ok man, the game didn’t matter, when it comes down to one play. Don’t you understand that? One play = one loss. Favre lost the game. How much more simple can it be?

The play-calling was fine. It was the execution that suffered. Grant didn’t have a big day because the Giants had a stout d-line/LB core that stuffed the run. Screens didn’t work. Was that Grant’s fault? Nope. Al Harris is tough, but has a history of not being able to contain taller receivers as well. He didn’t have much help over the top if I remember correctly. Is that Harris’s fault? Not really.

Favre was supposed to be able to throw the ball against their secondary, that didn’t work. He looked cold and tired and beaten. He made a massive mistake and lost the game in one play. Nothing else mattered.

And if you read the article, in typical back-handed-country-boy-charm swagger of Brett Favre, he DOES blame Donald for running the wrong route.

“If I throw it out where I would have liked to. . . . It was a shake route. Donald ran it more like an out, which was fine. It just didn’t get out far enough. It’s too bad.”

How can you say Rogers is “making things up” to sound cool? It’s not like he blames himself for every loss. Have you ever been in a leadership position, or are you just making things up just to argue?

by PackaCracka on Nov 19, 2008 1:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Grant and Harris suck and you give them a complete pass?

The play calling is good but “screens didn’t work”? The running didn’t work – a lot of shit didn’t work. What the hell was the rushing total – something like 40 yards wasn’t it? Somehow that’s good play calling? That’s players executing? If you were anywhere close to correct they had absolutely no business in the playoffs at all.

The defense wasn’t very good either. The team plays like crap, but Favre’s one play is the reason they lost the game. I have a hard time believing you’re even making that argument.

And in the quote Favre blames himself. The ball was underthrown regardless of what angle Driver broke at which he says. So how is that blaming Driver? He threw to the wrong guy as well.

Rogers taking the blame when it wasn’t his fault isn’t demonstrating leadership. But hey, that’s all you’re left with isn’t it?

p.s. Harris has done pretty well against a lot of tall receivers including Randy Moss

by ol Pete on Nov 19, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hey guys

kindly stfu

it’s over

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Nov 19, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Give him a pass then

To make it short, your answer is yes.

by PackaCracka on Nov 20, 2008 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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