Woodson And Collins Headed To Hawaii
by Mitchell_M on Dec 16, 2008 4:37 PM CST
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In a season as turbulent as 2008 has been, it's hard to find positives in Green Bay. However, the NFL Pro Bowl rosters were released today, and two of your Packers have been chosen to take an island vacation and play in a game that no one will watch. Three cheers apiece for...
Charles Woodson! And...
Nick Collins!
Both Woodson and Collins are Pro Bowl starters, and deservedly so. But why talk about Woodson's stats (54 tackles, 14 passes defensed, 5 interceptions and 2 TD's), or Collins' stats (65 tackles, 10 passes defensed, 5 interceptions and 3 TD's), or how both were integral to Green Bay's early success against the pass, or how both played heroically through nagging injuries...when we can talk about the snubs!
Possible Snub #1: Aaron Rodgers
Rodgers has played great this year, no doubt about it. But his stats don't compare to that of the other NFC quarterbacks who made it (Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, and Eli Manning), and neither does his win total. Soon, young padawan, but not this year. Maybe when Warner retires and Eli Manning goes back to being Eli Manning.
Possible Snub #2: Greg Jennings
Now here's a guy you can make a case for. Jennings had a scorching hot start to the season through the first six weeks, then started to cool off just in time for Pro Bowl voting to open. Still, Jennings is 5th in the NFC in yards and touchdowns...but compared to the seasons enjoyed by Steve Smith (the good one), Roddy White, and the Arizona Duo of Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin, it's hard to put Jennings in one of those spots. The only player I would consider bumping is Steve Smith, and I would totally replace him with...Calvin Johnson. Seriously, Megatron deserved the Pro Bowl more than anyone; putting up the numbers he did on the team he was on is a monumental feat and it's a tragedy he didn't make the cut.
Possible Snub #3: Ryan Grant
No. No, no, no, a thousand times, no. Grant may be 9th in the league in rushing yards, but he has been so underwhelming this season (3.9 ypc on 268 carries), there's no way he deserves to make the Pro Bowl over Adrian Peterson, Michael Turner, and Clinton Portis. The only possible "snub" in the NFC at this position is DeAngelo Williams, and he didn't really turn it on until a few weeks ago.
Possible Snub #4: Aaron Kampman
Kampman had a good year this year. Not great, but good. He'll probably eclipse 10 sacks in the next two weeks, which should be his floor in terms of production. However, Justin Tuck, Julius Peppers, and Jared Allen had great years, and deserve to make the trip. How John Abraham didn't make the squad, I will never know. He even fits the odd 2008 Pro Bowl requirement for all NFC DE's to have a first name that start with the letter 'J'!
Possible Snub #5: ?
Is there anyone else on this Packer team that deserves a look? If there is, I can't think of them.
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They deserved it
Someone asked me a couple weeks ago who was the best player on defense. I had a really hard time deciding whether it was Collins or Woodson. I eventually went with Collins because Woodson has been torched a couple times (Roddy White, Steve Smith) for big plays, but I couldn’t remember it happening to Collins. I’m glad they both made it.
by Brandon on Dec 16, 2008 4:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The snubs
1. I’m a total homer on Rodgers. I don’t know how he missed based on the current stats. But he’s not ahead of either Warner or Brees. Eli Manning’s stats are a notch below Rodgers (although it has been a career year for Manning). I bet Manning was lights out in the online poll.
2. Jennings has fallen off in recent weeks. I’m glad he made it as an alternate. He deserved that spot.
3. I hope no one is trying to make a Pro Bowl case for Grant. I’m not sure he should start ahead of Brandon Jackson.
4. I can see why John Abraham didn’t make it ahead of the other three (he’s not much of a run defender). Abraham better be an alternate. Kampman should be an alternate too, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
5. NY Giants K John Carney. He’s made a lot of FGs this season, but he hasn’t even attempted anything over 50 yards. Do they give Philadelphia’s K David Akers credit for at least attempting 4 (and missing 3) over 50 yards? Plus, Carney’s one of the worst on kickoffs in the NFC. Doesn’t that count against him? Probably not. He probably did great on the online vote too. K Mason Crosby is better than Carney, but I say give it to K Josh Brown. He actually deserves it, and it would be nice to let St. Louis have one guy go.
by Brandon on Dec 16, 2008 5:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Frosty
deserved it
"stay (green and) gold"
by Green and Bold on Dec 17, 2008 4:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
bahaha
only if he gets lit up on a fake punt
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
by Mitchell_M on Dec 17, 2008 6:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That cracked me up...
the frosty bit, hey but what about Tramon? maybe deserving of an alternate post? Doesn’t have 5 ints and a couple of fumble recoveries?
by PackFaninFL on Dec 17, 2008 11:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree with the snubs
Rodgers is a possible snub based on his play and would have gotten in if:
1) It wasn’t his first full season as a starter (those guys always get snubbed)
2) The team had a better record.
Kampman and Grant? Let’s get real. That is just silly.
Jennings was a deserving alternate, though Megatron would be #1 or #2 if the team didn’t suck so bad.
Crosby is good but pro bowl kickers is kind of a toss up pick anyways. Carney has the best pct. but that is misleading because he attempts very few long ones. Although it is nice to have a guy where you know he can make it from 45 or closer every time. Personally I’d take Elam but that is just me.
It is funny how arguing over pro bowl picks is more fun than watching the actual game. In the end the playoff teams basically always get the most guys in.
by Sand0 on Dec 17, 2008 5:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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