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Houston Texans at Green Bay Packers, Dec 7, 2008 12:00 PM CST


GREEN BAY PACKERS (5-7) GAME # 13 HOUSTON TEXANS (5-7)
VS.
Date: December 7, 2008 Location: Green Bay, WI
Time: 1:00 p.m. ET
Stadium: Lambeau Field
TV: FOX Favorite: Packers by 6 1/2
Weather:
Partly Cloudy, 8 degrees, chance of snow
Injury Report:
Friday Injury Report
SBN Coverage: Battle Red Blog My Prediction:
Packers 30, Houston 28

Inactives from NFL.com:

Texans: QB Craig Nail (3rd), SS Nick Ferguson, CB Matterral Richardson, FS Will Demps, LB Kevis Coley, G Kasey Studdard, OT Rashad Butler, TE Mark Bruener.

Analysis: QB Matt Schaub is active and will start, as expected.

Packers: QB Brian Brohm (3rd), SS Atari Bigby, CB Joe Porter, RB DeShawn Wynn, OLB Brandon Chillar, T Breno Giacomini, G Allen Barbre, DE Jeremy Thompson.

Analysis: RB Ryan Grant is active and will start, as expected. He’s a fine play against the Texans. RB Brandon Jackson and CB Charles Woodson are also active for the Packers.

Starting S Atari Bigby and LB Brandon Chillar are out. This doesn't help a defense that is struggling and has little depth at either position. I expect QB Matt Schaub and RB Steve Slaton will have big games and the defense will have to force turnovers to keep them from scoring.

Although the same can be said for Houston. They're missing two safeties (Ferguson and Demps) and S Eugene Wilson is playing through an injury.

 

 

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Big game

This should be a win. Houston’s offense can gain yards, but they have trouble hanging onto the ball. The Packers offense should be great against poor defense that has little depth at safety due to injuries.

by Brandon on Dec 7, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

I'm excited either way

This starts the 4-game stretch where, with a whole ton of help, the Packers make their playoff bid.

Needless to say, this game is HUUUUUUGE.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 11:54 AM CST reply actions  

third play from scrimmage

big TD for texans. No me gusta.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

AND collins got hurt

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

anyone else here?

I don’t want to suffer all by myself.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

here

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

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by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:11 PM CST reply actions  

holding

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by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

lucky

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

originally Milwaukee

but currently New Jersey

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

school

I transferred from UWM to Rutgers University in 2007. Best decision I ever made.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

originally california

now massachusetts

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Kapinos....

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Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

ugh

4th and 5 at midfield? It may be unconventional, but you can totally get that on these guys. why are they playing so conservatively?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

DESMOND BISHOP

NICE

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

outstanding

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

hmmm

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Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

they NEVER call offensive pass interference

I need a replay of that

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

no kidding

thats was pretty sketchy

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh

more holding

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

of course

it looks like it’s going to be one of those days

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:25 PM CST reply actions  

nice

some retribution.

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

rhys

you know Darly Maday or just a fan?

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

He's my "adopted Giant"

a fan..

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

hes good

i saw him play back when he was in high school

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

WHOO!

48 -YARDER!!

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

a TAINT would be pretty timely here

or at least another 3-and-out

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Update

Detroit 3 – Minnesota 0

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Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

Woodson was awful close, there

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

wow

where is our run D

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:30 PM CST reply actions  

where has it been all year?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh

giving up 3rd and 10 is NOT an option guys

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:30 PM CST reply actions  

that's better

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

way to stiffen up!

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

DETROIT INTERCEPTION

3rd of the year, but still!

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

I think I might be

rooting for detroit as much as I’m for the Pack…I would love to see that upset

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:34 PM CST reply actions  

meanwhile...

Bears are driving on hapless Jacksonville…we get them next week.

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:34 PM CST reply actions  

there we go again...

punt punt punt! mix the play calling up more

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

of course

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:39 PM CST reply actions  

lol

I love the “bronx cheer” following that punt

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:39 PM CST reply actions  

no comment

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

yes, yes they do

that’s what makes them the lions

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

NIce defense boys...

3rd and long…now let’s get some PRESSURE boys

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:42 PM CST reply actions  

because the oppsong QB

has all the time in the world , with nary a face or anything blocking any passing lanes

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

ughhhhhhhhh

steve slaton is too much

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

Do we need more speed on defense?

is that it? do we lack athleticism? every running back looks fast when they play us

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

we need health

we need everyone in their original positions and be smart

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

OK, just got in. What have I missed?

Ah crap…

by rudi on Dec 7, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

lets see

crappy D missed opportunities on O

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

FINALLY

A BREAK

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:48 PM CST reply actions  

No need to thank me.

I’ll go away and come back in shall I? :)

by rudi on Dec 7, 2008 12:48 PM CST reply actions  

Tramon Williams

has established himself as quite the playmaker on defense.

If nothing else, I’m very glad that we discovered his ability this season.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:49 PM CST reply actions  

good we are going to need him soon

Harris n Woodson are not getting younger

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Tausch

that is not good! we need him!

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

another first

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

3 in a row

me likey

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

4

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

i like four better

can i get a FIVE?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

nope

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

jordy just missed it

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

why are we not

doing more fab 5 this year? it worked so well last year

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:55 PM CST reply actions  

damn

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

Balls

That fizzled out somewhat…

by rudi on Dec 7, 2008 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

::smacks forehead::

dammit

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

well time to crack the beer

was waiting for a score but that just upsets me so good and then you get nothing

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

I could use some

bikini girl shots by the camara crew

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

Is it just me

finding it hard to believe our D is capable of stopping the opposition scoring?

by rudi on Dec 7, 2008 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

finally

not blow away on a blitz!!!!!

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

DBishop!

wow stepping up big time…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

Bishop

where have you been this season!!!

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

are you kidding me!!!

3rd and a million and they get it!

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

man...

that’s kinda what the Saints did to us…utilize the back out of the backfield….

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

big time right there

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

it's a start

keep it goin, boys

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

tramon williams needs

to keep making plays

/fixed

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol...honestly

he pushed off, but I JUST DONT CARE ANYMORE…I’mtake the TD and run

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

Back in it!

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

Lions driving...

6-3 lions…ball at the vikings 30…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

kevin walter?

Seriously?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

well well well...

meanwhile LIons go for it on 4 and 1 and fail…Vikes ball…

Schaub with a gazzillion minutes to pass

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:10 PM CST reply actions  

yikes

the guys over at the Daily Norseman are going insaaaaaaaaaaane. they’re actually asking for tavaris jackson.

http://www.dailynorseman.com/2008/12/7/683858/the-importance-of-avoiding#comments

enter that room at your own risk

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

lol

thanks for the spy report…next thing you’ll know, they’ll be wanting to bring culpepper back during the offseason…good stuff

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

well

he is beating them right now…

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

that's major

we’re hanging on by a thread, though

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Now THAT'S

what I’m talking about. Yeah.

by rudi on Dec 7, 2008 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

great great hold...

and pretty good pressure rushing only 4…GLAD WE DIDN’T BLITZ

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

ok lets

march down the field get 7 go in to halftime with the lead get the ball back at half and get another 7

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

i like the way you think

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

i hate how slow

nfl.com gamecenter is

it took me five extra minutes to get this news

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

nope

i’m stuck with the giants/eagles game

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

but

you have the internet……

by rudi on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

geez

the lions wen tfor it on 4th and goal and were stopped…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

**slams head on keyboard**

asdlf;j;wiaoerjuasdfkjas;ldfkjaserch

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

i am very quickly becoming

disenfranchised with this team

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

I am in “suffrage” watching them myself…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

rrrr

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

yep Al Harris...

Andre Johnson has been as quiet as crickets thanks to big Al

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

yeah but

they havent need him so far

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

once again, our linebackers are just too

friggin fraggin slow…we can’t cover running backs worth crapola

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

lol

brown sux.

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

hahaha

blimey, got out of that one…

by rudi on Dec 7, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

so let's see...

10-7 HOuson lead…and they are on pace to get about 560 total yards of offense…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions  

we can win this

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions  

we can we are perfectly

in this game we just need to make the plays

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

let's go over a few things

the offense has, with the exception of an awesome drive in the second quarter, been stagnant. McCarthy is not calling enough running plays and the passing offense is not as good as it usually is.

on defense, i don’t even want to say anything. Kevin Walter and Steve Slaton are KILLING us. If it weren’t for two timely Tramon Williams turnovers, we’d be in a deep hole.

At least the Vikings are losing to Detroit. I really really really REALLY hope they’re 1-12 after this day is over.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

agree some what

the passing game is doing good we just have to make the plays without penalties and Rodgers needs to get some composure back there

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

the play calling is just horrible tho

why do you make 4 good passing gains and then run the ball 3 times in a row and get stopped?

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Two things I hope change...

1) they let Blackmon return the ball

2) where is Jennings? just 1 catch…that has to change…

3) We need Aaron Kampman to get pressures

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

2 = 3?

math is hard, i know, but still

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

lmao

yeah that was good on my part…sorry

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

or

he could totally give the game away. that’s the thing with tavaris; you NEVER know which one you’re gonna get

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

alright, let's go d!

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

wow

D looks even worse now

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

I hope Aaron Rodgers'

california-tanned fingers are ready for -1 degrees with windchill…bone chilling

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

bishop is killing us now

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

he went for a ride

for 15 and then gave him another 15

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

grand

this defense is worse than ‘harry potter’

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:49 PM CST reply actions  

and touchdown Vikings

yep…I think the change at QB may have done it….Frerotte is terrible

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

are they going for it?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

4 and 1...

with that field goal kicker, texans will go for it……plus are run d sucks

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

no i meant with the gameday

i am guessing your watching the game online?

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

20+

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

YESSSS

DANTE CULP to CAlvin Johson…70 yards!!!

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

Detroit wining...okay

we face a 3rd and 4…call a good play….

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

nice

and he’s on my fantasy team

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

if GB doesn't go for it on 4th and short soon

i will be inconsolable

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

lets go D

3 n out and we get the ball with great field pos

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 1:58 PM CST reply actions  

yeah D

montgomery loss on on slaton

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

3rd and 12

stop them!

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

finally...

will blackmon time…and let’s keep to the ground game like we started last drive

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

wtf?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

they

were going to have it blocked so Turk (the punter) just ran for 18 yards

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

just sickening

how the punter could run for 18 when everything was bottled up in the middle

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

it's not fair to ask,

but can Tramon Williams get us another turnover please?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

nope

i forsee a woodson pick in the endzone

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

do they realize that they're down by 6?

you would think the defense would play with some urgency

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

fumble getting challenged!!!!

we have it if the refs did mess it up with a whistle

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

2nd and 12

13 yard pass. typical.

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

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by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

whoa whoa whoa

what?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

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by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

huh?

is this good?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

fumble by slaton picked up by jolly pack back 2nd n2 already

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

?

?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

oh thank you jesus, allah, buddah

and any other deities out there

all hail Xenu!

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

i guess we won the challenge

i came back late to the tv but we’re on offense

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 7, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

no

not challengable but the next play was another fumble

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah!!

deep ball down to the 5!!!

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

about freakin time

i’ve been worried that the rodgers-jennings connection was degrading

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

63 yards!

couldn’t see it! what happened?

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by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

playaction roll out to the right

rodgers threw it between 2 defenders right into jennings who made a nice catch

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 7, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

play action

rollout bomb into double coverage and perfect ball right into jennings chest

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The story of this game so far:

1. Texans giving the game away – 3 turnovers
2. Packers not being able to capitalize/Play D
until now…

GO PACK GO

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

nice drive!

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Dec 7, 2008 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

retaking the lead at this point is SO critical

i am on the edge of my seat…can i get a cheer for the lions?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions  

MN

down to the lions 30 tho

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Go Lions!

Feels weird but it works for now

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Dec 7, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

WOW

how in the HELL are we winning this game??

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:20 PM CST reply actions  

both teams are flawed

the ball is just bouncing our way…for now

the defense needs to contain slaton and force the ball back into the offense’s hands

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

wow

TJack is 4/6 for 52 yards…and vikings driving…DEtroit…you….must……hold…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

Walter

for 15 down to the GB 48

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

VIkings score...

slams head on keyboard asdfwrtdsfgegsdfgfd

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

it's just not in the cards today

the vikings are better than the lions, and the packers are too flawed on defense to hold onto a 1-point lead against an above average offense like Houston

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

3rd and 4

hold.

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

it doesn't help

that our defense is as adept as Lionel Hutz

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

do they?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

gah

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

not surprising

Green Bay couldn’t stop a pop warner team this year

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

houston calls timeout

and will go for 2

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 7, 2008 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

that's smart for them

because their defense isn’t anything to brag about either, and going for two forces GB to either kick the PAT for a tie or go for 2 for the win…if GB scores again that is

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

under review?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

?

?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

it's getting so bad

i’m looking for fantasy pickups solely based on whether or not they’re playing the packers

kevin walter would be huge on my squad

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

I love the new punter

That was all Kapinos!

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Dec 7, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions  

WOW

TEXANS FAIL SO MUCH

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

WHOOO

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

no FG's here

a TD is absolutely mandatory

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

Ryan Grant actually has a 100+ yards

we have not seen enough of this ryan grant this year

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

Lordy, Lordy,

thank you for Jordy

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

TD

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

vikings driving

onto the lions 30

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 7, 2008 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

OK,

so it’s a tie game with just under 6 minutes left

do we get a stop and try to kick a gamewinner?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

first we get

the stop! then try for the TD i think last week proved its better to get the 7

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

I just don't know

if our D can stop anyone

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:48 PM CST reply actions  

i don't get why

the kickoff was so short

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

wtf happened on that kickoff?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

intentional grounding

thank the lord

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

huge play here

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:51 PM CST reply actions  

looks like the vikes...

are going to win…but good news…Giants are losing, so the game they play against the vikes will mean something…BUt Chicago of course won…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 2:51 PM CST reply actions  

did you expect anything else?

defense gives up lots of yards on 3rd down

at least we got it back

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:52 PM CST reply actions  

wooow

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

i would love to see

the Pack melt the clock down to as close to the two-minute warning as they can before scoring

Houston is too explosive; they’re liable to get a big play for a TD or FG position

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

still in Crosby's range,

but I want as close to a sure thing as possible. C’mon, boys.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

uh oh

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

oh no

wrong way

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

55/56 yarder

hmmm

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions  

on the one hand

Crosby has a big enough leg and has hit these types of FG’s in the past…

on the other hand, conditions aren’t great and, if he misses, houston’s field position is just to good and our defense is just too bad…

i really don’t like it, but I’d punt it here

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 2:59 PM CST reply actions  

KAPINOS!

inside the 5

I untuck my shirt!

by Michael M on Dec 7, 2008 2:59 PM CST reply actions  

wow

even though I didn’t like it, that’s as good as it gets

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions  

why the hell did GB call a TO?

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

yep

and now they’re driving with a timeout within 1:30

blech

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

setting up for another heartbreak?

4 losses by 4 points or less for the pack this year…

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

yeah O

had the chance and blew it
down to the 25

by bizzle4 on Dec 7, 2008 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm ready for the weeping

that will inevitably follow this loss..if it ends up as a loss

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

augh

the defense…..so bad…

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

packers are horrible

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Dec 7, 2008 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

is it possible?

A losing home record this year? And yet another warm weather team (carolina) coming here and punching us in the face

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

well...

let’s see, a 5 and 11 record could netus the 8th pick in the draft, or thereabouts?

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

yeah the offense...and

the fact that the defense made Schaub (and his 414 yeards) look like Joe Montana and Walters look like Rice

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Hard to go from expectations of 11-5

To possibly being 5-11. This team sucks. Tons of talent but they can’t put anything together this year.

by Pack Man on Dec 7, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

this shit has happened all friggin' year

the D can’t stop jack in the 4th quarter. 5 losses by 4 points or less.

I’ll give you the play by play for all of those losses. GB gives other team the ball with 2-3 minutes left. Other team gets at least 2 20-yard plays and drives like crazy. Other team gets FG/TD with no time left.

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

i havent paid attention until the final few minutes

and this was the most pathetic display of FB ive seen in a while, and I watch ND every saturday. How the fuck do you have the ball at the 21 in position to win the game and end up on the 38? unexcusable. rodgers taking that sack for -9 yards was the horrendous. and the defense…houston cut through them like butter..sickening…this is not a good team right now

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Dec 7, 2008 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

I'd forgotten about that

We lose 10 and then 9 yards and get blown out of FG range. And who the hell calls a 3 yard pass on 3rd and like 26???

72-90 - TIMMY FOR CY YOUNG!!!

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Dec 7, 2008 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

and that's game

24-21 houston

let’s face it…this year’s Packers simply don’t have it. Between the injuries at key defensive positions and the inability to get a consistent run game early in the season, not to mention the defensive shortcomings (very, very short)…

Blech. Prepare for an onslaught of Vikings and Bears fans shoving it in our face. Let us just remind them that we split with the Vikings, crushed the Bears once, and that Minny had major issues containing the 0-13 Lions.

But we need to clean up our act first. These next three games are still important, as it’s still mathematically possible for us to make the playoffs. Highly unlikely and, if it does happen, we’d end up getting blown out by the 6-seed, but still possible.

Sometimes, that’s just how it happens. Stay strong, Packer Nation. At least we’re not Detroit.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Was it just me...

or did the team lack passion and fire today? the teams just looked lethargic. Anyways, I was listening to some ex football player on the radio saying this is the toughest time of the year to give it your all when you know you are out of it…out of any playoff contention…to me the pack played like the…The Carolina game, was full of passion and intensity…this one? like sleepwalkiing by comparison

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

But some last perspective...

this team has lost 5 games by 4 points or less…so that’s almost like using 5 coin flipps in a row…I don’t think the ball will bounce the wrong way next year for us like that….but still, 560 yards or so to HOuston? WOW…first priority, we need a pass rusher…the best pass rusher in the draft must be gotten next year, someone fill in for KGB

Next we need a pass rusher from the Defensive tackle position…that’s the 2nd priority

Schaub had enough time back there to do the Sunday New york times crossword puzzle (assuming he could figure it out)

by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2008 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

shaub's not dumb

he could do it. Give him a hard sudoku puzzle, then see if we can get a sack

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

this shit has happened all friggin’ year…. the D can’t stop jack in the 4th quarter. 5 losses by 4 points or less

true, but the offense had the ball, and could have closed this game, if they didn’t screw it up. Favre would have the experience needed to win that game. Rodgers stats are all great excpet for the most important one the “"Ws and Ls”.

The flags are definatly not helping either, but that OPI on Driver was a bad call, not enough contact to call OPI.
Two other calls that wasn’t very good, the way to qucik wistle on the catch and fumble, and they missed a holding call in the endzone on the Texans last drive, that should have been a safety.

But this game is lost on ineffectiveness on offense.

About time to fire Ted ???

by Jarlsberg on Dec 7, 2008 3:42 PM CST reply actions  

alright

who had 4:42 for when Jarlsberg would mention how Favre would have won the game? I had after 5:00pm, I must admit

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Dec 7, 2008 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I've had enough of this silliness
About time to fire Ted ???

Only if he’s out there on 3rd down giving up 10+ yard gains. This season is solely on the shoulders of the defensive coaches and the injuries to Jenkins, Bigby, and Barnett.

Favre would have the experience needed to win that game.

I am literally thisclose to moving to ban anyone and everyone who tries to bring this into the conversation. It is irrelevant, unnecessary, and has no grounds.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 4:04 PM CST reply actions  

Don't you remember...

How the Packers won 10 consecutive Suprerbowls with Brett Favre playing defense and special teams. We never lost a game!

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Dec 7, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Freedom of speach ??

I am literally thisclose to moving to ban anyone and everyone who tries to bring this into the conversation. It is irrelevant, unnecessary, and has no grounds.

Or does that only include the people who agree with you, and is humping the Rodgers band-wagon ?

I might be wrong, but isn’t the sole reason for the existance of blogs/forums like this, the oportunity for people to express their own opionion?
But if you don’t respect people haveing a different opinion than you, then Mitchell_M, go ahead and ban me.
I think it’s only fair to compare Rodgers to Favre, since Favre is still playing, if he had stayed retired, it would be irrelevant.
My point is to rip Thompson for his missjudgements, not to blame Rodgers.

Yes, the defense could not stop the Texans on their final drive, but they also created 3 turnovers, and with the muffed punt, Packers won the turnover battle 4 – 1, but still wasn’t able to win the game.
That places just as much of the blame on the offense, they had the ball, and momentum with the possibility to score with almost no time left, but they did not execute !

The score was 21-21, if they had moved the ball and kicked a FG, Packers win.

The injuries to the defense are not the only reason for the current 5 – 8 record, injuries are a part of football, a part that teams have to adapt to and overcome. And the injuries this season is not even close to what we had in ’05.

Bernie, I don’t really see the reason for your irony, winning the Superbowl is very, very hard, and 31 teams fail to do so every year.
But, the overall talentlevel the Packers have this year, it would be a very realistic chance of winning it with Favre as QB.

Now, back to the game, when are they going to start to mix in Brandon Jackson in the running game ? that would add a much needed dimesion.

by Jarlsberg on Dec 7, 2008 5:12 PM CST reply actions  

Don't worry, nobody's banning you

so go ahead and cry free speech, it won’t make a difference. It’s not worth the time it would take to ban someone anyways, but it’s really effing annoying every time someone drops a “Favre coulda done it!”

Seriously, you completely undermine every single good point you make (the refs on the offensive pass interference and the whole Brandon Jackson question, just to name two) whenever you try to bring Favre comparisons into the mix or start a “Fire Thompson” movement. Those two things are my pet peeves as a Packer fan, and I know that I’m not alone in that regard.

What are we, Philadelphia sports fans? You wanna talk about the game, fine, but just know that you’ll be treated like a joke once you bring Favre and/or the GM into the mix, because neither one had anything to do with today’s shoddy performance. Once you bring those irrelevencies into the conversation, it’s over. Your point is moot.

That all said, you go ahead and say whatever you want. Just know that if it mentions anything about Favre vs. Rodgers or replacing Thompson, I am going to come down on it, and I suspect that I’m not alone.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Dec 7, 2008 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Favre v. Rodgers

is in essence a comment on Thompson. I don’t think there is a pro sports team that doesn’t discuss their GM. His track record is how he is evaluated and is indeed a moot point, i.e. one worth discussing.

by ol Pete on Dec 7, 2008 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

It was sarcasm not irony.

Of course you are blaming Rodgers, unless you are referencing Brett Favre’s experience at the corner back position.

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Dec 7, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

sarcasm

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt

and corner backs aren’t needed while the offense is on the field

by ol Pete on Dec 7, 2008 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is it so inapropriate to critizise Thompson ? Because he’s not on the field ? I think Thompson has done several big mistakes in his job, justifying him being fired. Misstakes that could end up hurting the Packers big in the future.

surely we’re not Philadelphia sports fans, but we should still be able to critizise/discuss the front office for their misstakes.

I’ve said it before, Thompsons tag and trade of Williams, not resigning him, his failure to rebuild the offensive line, choosing Frost over Ryan, not bringing in a power RB, his outragous handeling of the Favre situtaion this summer, and I think it’s safe to say now, that Justin Harrel is a bust.

What separates the Packers, fans and orgainsation from the rest of the NFL, besides being the only small town team, is the way the fans, staff and city has treated our star players and ledgends until what Thompson/McCarthy did to Favre.
Green Bay has several challenges, like climate, being a small town etc, that might make it a less attractive to free agents and draft picks. I always saw Brett Favre as the great equalizer for those challenges, both Reggie White and Charles Woodson named him as one of the main reasons for signing with the Pack. Unfortuneatly, Rodgers is not even close to being that equalizer yet, and I doubth he will be.
By treating Favre that way, they also proved that no other player can expect to be treatet better, which will definatly not help in signing anyone.
The way Packers fans has treated our ledgends for years, however, is a big plus for anyone considering to sign.
So the fact that Favre would be a better QB in Green Bay this year, is not the worst problem, but the way he was treated and the signal that sent to everyone.

The McCarthy / Thompson “express-train to success” has taken a serious detour to looserville, only a couple of stops behind the Lions, that’s why there should be changes at the top, so the team can get back on the right track.

by Jarlsberg on Dec 8, 2008 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

It is not inappropriate to criticize Thompson

He certainly has made some questionable decisions. But you saying that he should be fired is incredibly short-sighted because it completely ignores the decisions he made that helped bring us to the NFC Championship game last year. Now clearly they did not do that good solely because of TT, but by the same measure, they clearly are not doing as bad this year solely because of TT either. To fire TT or McCarthy now would be the definition of a knee-jerk reaction. To say the we are just a couple steps above the Lions is lunacy.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Dec 8, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

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