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My Thoughts on Favre and the Packers

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Quarterback+Brett+Farve+Discuss+Decision+Retire+2uuI6LTGfwql.jpgCertainly not an expert on the NFL, but I'm gonna say what I think about the whole situation surrounding Brett Favre. Personally, if he had done this comeback at the end of March like he almost did, I would have embraced his return. But now it's mid-July, and the Packers have made the changes necessary for the young Aaron Rodgers to finally assume the role as Packers' quarterback.

It is now that Favre decides that he wants to come back. The Packers basically say that they've committed to Rodgers, but he could come back as a backup. Favre wants a release, and when the Packers don't grant it, Favre gets pissed. The Packers are saying they are trying to look out for Favre's legacy, which Favre says is "a bunch of bull."

Personally I think this comeback in the middle of July by you is a bunch of bull. You expect everyone in the Packers management to bend over and let you have your way. Personally, I think you are tarnishing your legacy with this move to even come back after that show you gave us in March, and the hissy-fit you're throwing now. And if you go to another team, that will only make it worse.

I really don't see why any team would want Favre anyway. The guy is going to turn 39 this October, why would you want to get basically one year from the guy when you could get a younger QB and have a chance to win the Super Bowl a few times the next few years, not just this year. With that said I'm not sure if Favre is capable of winning the Super Bowl on another team.

Favre had a fantastic season last year, yes, but that was with recievers such as Donald Driver whose strengths and weaknesses he knew better than anyone, and he was able to use them to drive down the field. Now you take Favre and put him on a completely different team with players who have never played with him. What if the chemistry isn't there and your team goes 5-11 for the year? Then does taking the 39 year old QB who just couldn't stop playing look like a good decision?

Whatever, as far as I'm concerned Brett can come back, just not on the Packers. As a cheesehead I'm ready for a new era, one that doesn't circle around one player's possible retirement for threhttp://www.allanstanglin.com/wp-content/uploads/11-30aaronrodgers.jpge months. I belive in Aaron Rodgers, I think he can lead this team to a win in the Super Bowl in the coming seasons. This kid was great in college play, leading the California Golden Bears to an upset win over a then #3 ranked USC in just his second career start.

The next year he broke several school records, and his team suffered only one loss to #1 ranked USC, 23-17, before making it to the Holiday Bowl, losing to Texas University. It was 2005 and he enrolled in the NFL Draft, being picked up by the Packers in the first round. He spent the next three seasons watching Favre lead the Packers. His only playing time was when Favre was injured or the Packers were dominating.

Last year he came in and played most of the game against the Dallas Cowboys after Favre left the game with a shoulder injury. He completed 18 of 26 passes for 201 yards and a touchdown, losing the game 37-27. These numbers are pretty good, especially considering he was playing against the Cowboys, which was thought to be the best team in the NFC. I think this year he will have even better numbers than this against some of the weaker teams of the NFC, but will still be able to pick his way down the field against tough opponents like Dallas.

And if we struggle this season I'm not going to question whether or not Favre should have come back, because in the long haul Rodgers is the right decision. I wouldn't put it past him to lead the Packers to the playoffs again this year. Once your there, heck, who knows maybe they could win the whole thing.

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Just a great job, great writing, and a great argument for Aaron Rodgers. Part of me feels this way too, but I want Favre to return in 2008 as the starter. Rodgers has potential, but I think Favre will be better this season. There is a chance Rodgers could be a bust, there aren’t a lot of good quarterbacks in the NFL that have left college early and succeeded as a pro. My preference has been for years to stick with Favre for as long as they can, and I don’t see any good reason to change it.

by Brandon on Jul 16, 2008 12:31 AM CDT   0 recs

GREAT GREAT GREAT job, writing, argument, all of the above

WOW!! I am very impressed and thought I would share my mere thoughts as well; ok? Here goes…

OK Aaron Rodgers or for you turn coats A-Rod; his highness has spoken.

"I don’t feel I need to sell myself to the fans," Rodgers responded. "They need to get on board now or keep their mouths shut."

Well you’ve heard his words in quotations not revisionist history.

Rodgers went on to say, “my injuries have been more serious than previously released by the Packer public relations department. My pinkie nail was torn on my surfboard last March the day after I heard Favre give his tearful bye-bye telethon. And I reluctantly admit my hamstring was actually first streached beyond belief when I was stepping into my wetsuit (actually the footies).”

“But I swear (fingers crossed behind my back) to make Green Bay my mecca. If I get cold feet on the frozen tundra (it’s much colder on the field) than on that friggin frozen bench and limp off the field don’t worry I’ll be fine in a month or two.

Step two three four; step two three four…Bye Brettie hehehe…I’M THE MAN

by harleyrod on Jul 16, 2008 12:49 AM CDT   0 recs

Favre

Favre has already given his opinion on what he thinks of the Packers, soon as he asked to be traded… or perhaps I should say his lack of loyalty to the team. This isn’t the first time he wanted to be traded either.

I said last year before the season started, he is a disgruntled quarterback and shouldn’t be starting, because one game, he will thrown an intentional pick to ruin the Packers season. And of course, what happened in the last playoff game, he threw his pick.

Rodgers also outplayed Favre in the preseason last year, and that was with the 2nd string players. But Favre gets his starting job automatically every year, no matter how poorly he plays.

Even rookie opponent quarterbacks outplayed Favre during some of the seasons games (for example, the Chicago game with the blizzard, and the Playoff game with the Giants… both quarterbacks easily outplayed Favre).

by TC93 on Jul 16, 2008 6:34 AM CDT   0 recs

Look the reality is that Favre is still one of the most talented QB's in the NFL right now and has a few good years left in him.

If you look at his record and stats at 39 he could still probably play until his early 40’s. He has proven his tenacity and work effort and ability to play competitively even with injuries.
After the season he had last year it was a complete mindblowing thing to see him retire, but hearing the real behind the scenes stories of what really went down, I see why he made that mistake. Ted Thompson has had an agenda. He is a moron. He needs to either appologize to Favre and get him back as the starter or let him go and go with him. Thompson is a shady character at best. There is no way Aaron Rodgers is going to last the whole season without injury. Trade him, get Favre back and prep Brian Brohm to take over in 3-4 years.
Thompson needs to go, not Favre.

by enzos mom on Jul 17, 2008 1:07 AM CDT   0 recs

Que sera, sera

I’m a long-term Packer fan. Re-read that. “Packer fan”. My love, admiration and respect for Brett come second to my fanatic obssession with the team.

That said, I think Brett needs to stay retired. While I’ve always loved watching him play, I’m not willing to stake our long-term prospects on a 39-year-old with a penchant for the INT. Aaron Rodgers may NOT be the answer, but we have other options on the bench. We’ve rebuilt the rest of the team….now we just need to rebuild at QB.

Cheese comes from happy cows. Happy cows come from WISCONSIN!

by cheezus on Jul 17, 2008 2:56 PM CDT   0 recs

Brett is lying now or he lied before

At his retirement presser he said that he was not pressured to make a decision so early. he said that not going for Randy Moss had nothing to do with his retirement. He said TT isn’t the reason he retired and that was “from the heart.” Now he’s saying that he was pushed for an early decision and that TT’s decision not get Randy Moss caused Brett not to trust TT. So either he was lying then or he’s lying now. Which is it?

I don’t blame Brett completely for this. The Packers certainly could have handled it better. But Brett is far from blameless.

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jul 17, 2008 3:52 PM CDT   0 recs

A potential positive of having Favre in limbo.

Penalties on other teams for tampering meaning extra/or improved draft picks for us next year. I am not 100% positive but didn’t the Bears get compensation from the 49ers for tampering with Briggs last year? I think the 49ers were forced to swap picks in the 3rd round. Briggs is a good player but not a HOF player like Favre.
The Packers have already accused the Vikings of tampering and there could be other teams out there too.

by juggernaut400 on Jul 17, 2008 4:27 PM CDT   0 recs

He's not a liar

That was a very mature post tylerhead24. Good job making stating your opinion without offense. A lot of people post, and reporters claim, that Brett’s a liar. Lying about what? Retiring? People think he purposefully did that emotional press conference and lied about retiring? That’s so silly to me. Unfortunately, it is just a circus now. I am a Dallas fan, and can completely relate to circus type behavior in which something personal is going on with a player and then the media spins it all over the place. Really, this is a “personal” situation that Brett and the Packers are going through. It should have come out once all the pieces where in place, whether he retires, gets traded, starts again at Green Bay, etc.
People should relate to “regretting” a decision they have made or “changing their mind”. This guy doesn’t know anything else but football. So, how can Packer fans or non Packer fans be surprised of his decision to come back. Have you never wanted to go back to something you regretfully left? He was asked to make a decision on their terms so they can decide how to play out their draft picks, and he probably wasn’t too ready to make that decision just yet. But he had too. He didn’t lie. He just made a quick decision. Who hasn’t? People should judge that. I kind of feel for the guy. What an amazing career, a legend as he has been called. But in 5, 10 years from now, he will be known as the “guy who cried all the time, couldn’t make up his mind, lied about retiring, a bitter QB….:” and the list goes on, and so will the jokes. Thank God for his records.
Rodgers isn’t the Packers next Favre. That rarely happens. Take it from someone who went through 8 QBs waiting on the next Aikman. But Rodgers will do alright, nothing spectacular. Packer fans, and the rest of the world will know, when the next Favre hits the field.

by DCnovacek on Jul 17, 2008 7:22 PM CDT   0 recs

In his retirement press conference he said that TT and McCarthy did not force his decision and that it was his and his alone. And that was “from the heart.” Now he says he feels that he was pushed to make a decision, something which TT and McCarthy deny. So either he was lying then or he is lying now.

At the end of March he changed his mind and decided that he wanted to play again. Mgmt was fine with that then and was willing to take him back with open arms as the starter. But then he flip-flopped again. Should the Pack allow him to come back and be the starter now, what if he changes his mind again? He still has not said that he is fully committed to playing. He has said that IF he plays he will be 100% committed but won’t commit to playing. What are the Packers to do? Take Favre back and push Rodgers back to the backup role? Then what do they do next year when Favre retires? Do we believe him or do we just wait on pins and needles until he changes his mind again? The Packers could have handled this better for sure but the blame for the whole situation taking place in the first place lies solely on Brett’s shoulders

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Jul 17, 2008 8:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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