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Did anybody else read about the four linebacker look with Nick Barnett, AJ Hawk, Brady Poppinga and Brandon Chillar they were experimenting with in mini camp. I'm pretty excited to see if this goes anywhere. With a four linebacker look the potential is greater for tough to pick up zone blitz schemes, as well as being harder for the offense to identify which linebacker might blitz if any of them. This seems to be a good way to salvage Brady Poppinga's stay with us as he and Nick Barnett are both exceptional blitzers. What about seeing KGB stay up and play a hybrid position to disguise where his rush will come from.

I also have to believe that Bob Sanders is also trying to compensate for some of the lost interior pass rush that went with Corey Williams' trade to Cleveland. Everyone must admit that while our defense was pretty highly ranked last year in a lot of categories, it underachieved just a tad, so I'd like to see Bob Sanders tinkering with some things this training camp.

Oh and topic number two concerning the defense: Who will Aaron Rouse subplant first at one of the starting safety positions: Nick Collins or Atari Bigby?

I haven't posted much here, and I've posted mostly on Camden Chat, the SB Nation blog for the Baltimore Orioles. You can probably expect more stuff from me, that will usually center on the Packers defensive side of the ball. I'm kind of obsessed with Football defense.

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I would be interested to see how well a 3-4 look pans out in the preseason. On paper, it looks great, but you can’t forget that these guys have played in a 4-3 their entire careers here in Green Bay, so the transition might be too much.

As for Aaron Rouse, he’s in a tough position. The guy has athleticism up the wazoo and is certainly a talented player. However, Atari Bigby really came on strong last year, as he found his niche as a hard-hitting safety. Nick Collins has steadily improved every season (though not as much as we’d hoped), so it’s not like he’s on the hot seat. It’s going to take an amazing training camp from Rouse, an underwhelming camp from either Collins or Bigby, and a few blown assignments during the season by one of the incumbents before Rouse gets his chance.

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by Mitchell Maurer on Jul 23, 2008 6:45 AM CDT reply actions  

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel blog didn't specify if it was a 3-4 look or not,

it just said that Barnett, Hawk, Poppinga and Chillar were all on the field at the same time. The problem with the 3-4 is you have to run an absolute monster out there at nose tackle, and while I could assume that could be Ryan Pickett, its still iffy just how well he’ll do playing two gaps after playing one gap his entire career. Its easy for New England, Pittsburgh and San Diego to play an affective 3-4 when they can trot out the guys they do at nose tackle.

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by jobe on Jul 23, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see the 3-4 get used on occasion to change things up and keep the offense guessing but would not be in favor of changing to a 3-4 full time. What ever happened to Hodge from Iowa? I thought he had the chance to be pretty good and possibly move Barnett outside to take advantage of his speed. I’m also liking what I hear about Chillar. I like Poppinga (if for no other reason than he has a fun name to say…Poppinga!) but his pass coverage drives me crazy.

As for Rouse, I agree with what Mitchell_M says. Bigby and Collins are pretty set at safeties for now but its great to know that if either one of them slips up or gets hurt we have a replacement waiting in the wings. Rouse needs to find his way on the field somehow though cause he is too good to not get some playing time.

Boy its refreshing to talk about some Packer football without the QB position coming up!

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by verno329 on Jul 23, 2008 7:51 AM CDT reply actions  

4-4 Look Maybe? And Safeties

I read that the Packers were using 4 linebackers back in April/May during the first mini-camps, but I kind of ignored it since it was just mini-camp. I’m waiting to see if they use it in the preseason. Still it’s all about generating a pass rush. They were getting to the QB early last season, but by the last few weeks, the pass rush was running on fumes. The turning point I remember was the game in Dallas at the end of November. Dallas scored on their first few possessions and their was no pass rush. Bob Sanders started dialing up the blitz, I recall A.J. Hawk coming a few times, and it slowed Dallas down. I’m not sure what they are planning to do with 4 linebackers, but don’t forget former 3rd round pick Abdul Hodge is still on the roster and might get a shot there too, if (big IF) healthy.

Although Aaron Rouse came out of college with a rep for having poor coverage skills, I thought he was the best safety in coverage last season. Bigby had 4 INTs in December, but he plays way off in coverage and at least one of the picks was a lucky bounce-type. Collins just didn’t make a lot of plays last season and might never be better than average. Both safeties play similar, back in coverage off the line of scrimmage, there is no classic strong safety creeping up and playing like an extra linebacker, so Rouse would be a candidate to replace either of them, but I think Collins has to watch his back.

by Brandon on Jul 24, 2008 12:33 AM CDT reply actions  

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