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Preview: Packers at Detroit

Everyone with a fantasy team probably noticed that Atlanta's RB Michael Turner ran all over Detroit for 220 yards, and backup RB Jerious Norwood almost had a 100 yard rushing game too. Atlanta wasn't running the ball because rookie QB Matt Ryan was struggling either. Ryan's first NFL completion was a 62 yard TD bomb. Yes, Detroit's defense looked and was awful. Take it from an expert, Pride of Detroit's Sean Yuille:

  • Despite their improvements during the preseason, the defense was absolutely pathetic.  I don't know if I've ever seen a game with more missed tackles.  That was a big reason why the Falcons ended up with 318 rushing yards.  Michael Turner set a single-game franchise record for rushing yards with 220 of his own.  He also scored a pair of touchdowns and would have had three had it not been for a holding penalty.  Even their backup, Jerious Norwood, ran for 93 yards and a touchdown.
  • The passing defense wasn't any better.  Matt Ryan went 9/13 for 161 yards and 1 touchdown.  That touchdown came on his first NFL pass as he hit Michael Jenkins for a 62-yard score.  Travis Fisher looked terrible on multiple occasions and Leigh Bodden didn't look much better at times. 

    To make matters worse, the dominant defensive line we saw in the preseason was rarely dominant in yesterday's game.  The Lions only had a single sack and never got much pressure on Matt Ryan, resulting in his nearly 70% completion rating.

Against Minnesota, the Packers offense looked sharp (except for penalties), and the Packers defense played good too (except they only forced one turnover, had trouble stopping Minnesota on 3rd and 4th down, and with their own penalties). The current game odds favors the Packers by 3 points which is way too tight. It wasn't like Detroit's defensive struggles are new either because the Packers ran all over them last year in Detroit on their way to a 37-26 victory. Still there is a way Detroit can win this game:

  1. Packers' secondary vs. Detroit's wide receivers. WRs Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams are very good, and they will have some big plays against the Packers. A 100 yard game by either, or both, isn't going to decide the game in Detroit's favor. They need more help then just that.
  2. Packers vs. penalties. This was the dark cloud over the Vikings win. The Packers 12 penalties for 118 yards against Minnesota was awful, but they were bad last year in Detroit with 9 penalties for 81 yards. This alone won't tip the game in favor of Detroit, but if Tony Moll calls back another TD pass to Donald Driver there will be hell to pay.
  3. Packers vs. turnovers. The defense should force turnovers, but the Packers have forced only one turnover in each of the last two wins at Detroit. The defense doesn't have to force turnovers for the Packers to win. But the Packers offense can't cough the ball up. The last Packer loss at Detroit was a stinker of a game when the Packers had 3 turnovers, 216 yards in offense, and 14 penalties (and lost WR Javon Walker to a season ending knee injury). Detroit's early season success in 2007 was fueled by their defense and all the turnovers they recovered. This is the real problem area that has to be watched on Sunday.

I'm not expecting the Packers to lose, but it's the NFL and no game is safe. As you watch QB Aaron Rodgers lead the occassional three-and-out, while QB Jon Kitna has success moving his offense down the field on an early scoring drive or two, don't panic. P Derrick Frost will punt the ball occassionally and Detroit will probably score over 20 points, but this is the Packers game to win.

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Are The Packers Winning BIg In Detroit?
Yes, By Way Over 3 Points
58 votes
Yes, But It Will Be Close
10 votes
No, Detroit's Due For The Upset
6 votes

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all things considered,

this should be a pretty nice first road game for A-Rodg, considering the amount of Packer fans that live in Michigan. And the awfulness of the opposing defense. Sorry, Lions fans.

Outstanding post, especially the info from Detroit’s SBNation blog. Many kudos to you, sir.

-- "I do know that I plead the fizzif."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 11, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice post

I agree with Mitchell_M that this should be a good first road test for Rodgers and I’m looking forward to see how he handles it. Is James Jones gonna be ready for this game does anyone know? I’d like to see how he works with Rodgers since they are supposed to have a good on-field relationship. I’d also like to see if Brandon Jackson can get some nice runs for a change and play a good all-around game. It seems to me that when he does a decent job in pass-protection he does nothing on the ground, or when he does have a nice couple of gains on the ground he blows some pass-protection and leaves the QB vulnerable.

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Sep 11, 2008 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

James Jones returned to practice today. As of now, he is questionable, but I’ll bet he’ll get in there.

Brandon Jackson is recovering from a mild concussion, so Kregg Lumpkin might get some burn. That might be good or bad, depending on what you’re looking for.

-- "I do know that I plead the fizzif."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 11, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody heading out to Detroit for the weekend?

My friends and I did a similar trip to Minnesota to catch the Packers. It’s a new tradition we started and we figured while some of us are in college (and me without a job) that we would try to cut corners where they may. Cheapest seats in the house (no swearing and no drinking to boot), free hotel room, and 36 hours in Detroit will hopefully yield the same result last year’s trip of gambling and blown tires did: a Packers win.

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Sep 11, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Normally I don't antagonate

But how well do you guys think Harris’ dirty play is going to work against Megatron and Roy?

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by FarvaForTheVikings on Sep 12, 2008 9:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Normally I don't answer

but it’s a great question. While calling Harris’ style “dirty” is debatable, the fact is that he gets away with more contact than other players at his position. Whatever the reason for that is I leave up to you. But since Woodson will likely miss some time (if not the whole game), Harris will have to line up against Megatron. And Megatron don’t take no mess.

I think that if they roll a safety towards Johnson, double him in the nickel package, and consistently pressure Jon Kitna, Harris will escape without getting toasted too badly. I still fully expect the King of the Decepticons to go off for 100+ yards and probably a TD, just because of his fantastic athleticism. He might just throw Harris out of the way instead of running past or through him.

Now, I have to ask: being a Vikings fan, do you accuse Harris of playing dirty simply because he’s a tough, in-your-face press corner? Is it because of the pass interference penalties he draws (both on himself and on recievers)? Or is it because he hurt AP’s PCL last season on a play that was pretty legit all around?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 13, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, my opinion is

I like to call it dirty, but maybe a more accurate description would be “over-physical” or something like that. I wouldn’t have such a problem, but he definitely gets away with some definite pass interference. I don’t have a problem with him being physical, I think that’s a good asset. Cornerbacks can’t be letting the receivers have their way. But when he gets away with some of the stuff he does, it grates on my nerves a bit. I will admit that he is a good corner, and I suppose if he’s going to get away with it, well, you can’t really blame him for taking advantage.

That being said, I’m not blaming the refs for us losing the game. The reffing in that game was bad (for both sides), but I refuse to blame a loss on the refs.

And I might be a little bitter over the injury. But I’d say All Day got even.

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by FarvaForTheVikings on Sep 14, 2008 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I might be a little bitter over the injury. But I’d say All Day got even.

Congratulations on getting even. I guess we’ll have to settle for a 5th straight win. Sigh

Can't pitch Gagne in rain. He’s like the B-2 bomber of baseball.--TheJay

by verno329 on Sep 14, 2008 9:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With all due respect,

AP did put a nasty hit on Harris. I’ve had that kind of hit happen to me, and it is embarassing.

But I agree with verno; the win is what matters.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 15, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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