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Green Bay Packers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Sep 28, 2008 12:00 PM CDT


Green Bay Packers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Monday, September 28th, 2008
Noon CST, FOX
This is an open thread for the game.

Inactives from NFL.com:

Packers inactives: QB Brian Brohm (3rd), SS Atari Bigby, RB Kregg Lumpkin, CB Al Harris, FB Korey Hall, T Breno Giacomini, WR James Jones, DE Jeremy Thompson.

Analysis: WR Jordy Nelson will serve as the Packers’ No. 3 wideout with Jones out of action.

Buccaneers inactives: QB Jeff Garcia (3rd), QB Josh Johnson, FB B.J. Askew, LB Matt McCoy, G Davin Joseph, T James Lee, WR Joey Galloway, DT Ryan Sims.

Analysis: QB Brian Griese will continue to start in the absence of Garcia. WRs Antonio Bryant and Ike Hilliard are nice fantasy options, especially with Galloway inactive.

As expected, Packers starting S Atari Bigby, CB Al Harris, and FB Korey Hall are out for this game, and rookie 2nd round pick CB Pat Lee will play in his first NFL game. Hopefully Woodson, Collins, and Rouse are all feeling good, and the loss of Harris and Bigby won't be a big deal.

If someone had said to me that Davin Joseph and Joey Galloway were the two best players on the Bucs' offense, I wouldn't have argued. They are still playing well without them, but it sure doesn't help them.

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MIA

Another trip to my favorite wifi-free sports bar to watch the game, so I’ll be missing from another open thread this week. Let me know if Chris Berman fondly remembers the old bay of pigs games from the dark 1980s on the ESPN pre-game show.

by Brandon on Sep 28, 2008 11:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm still trying to figure out how to watch it online

the links people gave last time were NOT working. Help is greatly appreciated.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and then the one link i did get tells me to download Adobe Flash Player 9, which I did. Then I go there again, and it tells me to download the exact same thing…again!

Very irritating. I guess I’m relegated to watching on NFL GameCast again.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries mithell..

I’m with you on here watching gamecast for the first half. I’m working for a few hours today and at home I was getting the packer game but at work on my Direct TV i’m getting the Vikings game. kinda sucks

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i suppose it would help if i wrote..

Mitchell instead of the way i did above lol..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it gets worse

i found a link that was supposed to work, and it made me download an update to adobe flash player.

i did so, and it still didn’t work.

nfl.com uses adobe flash player, and now it’s telling me i don’t have it.

very very very annoyed.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but I do have another computer available

which means i “saw” aaron rodgers get a TD to jennings. Awesome.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

does anyone know how

to either fix adobe flash player or turn on Javascript?

I don’t.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't a clue otherwise..

i’d help.. Liking the score so far tho. 7-0 good guys

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it seems that the defense is holding up really well, too

at least until that illegal contact penalty on Woodson

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea..

keeping the running backs in check thus far as well..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

clifton with the hold

isn’t he somewhat famous for NEVER getting called for anything over the past few years? what’s happening now?

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there was an article recently

i think it was about the refs watching left tackles more closely or something. I haven’t read it but if you want to take a look:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080919/PKR01/809200398/1058

by chase182 on Sep 28, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rodgers with his first pick of the year

not liking the position they were in when he gave that one up

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not at all..

alright D hold them to 3

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

again with the illegal contact

woodson is supposed to be a savvy veteran! stop getting flagged!

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no shit..

that hurt to with it being 3rd down

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

thats what Turnovers will do.. Lets get the points back offense

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

offense needs to get back into the groove

after the defense gave up the TD

I can’t see what happened (stupid internets), but based on the play-by-play, i blame this one on charles woodson. His penalty gave TB a first down, and they turned it into a score.

reminiscent of last week, when Charles Tillman was stupid, got a penalty, gave the Bucs a free first down, and TB took advantage. Woodson just isn’t as stupid, just not careful enough.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thats two penalties for him today as well..

its alright there is a lot of game left..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a horrible drive

a penalty on the kickoff, a 6-yard loss, and two straight incompletions.

man, i really wish I could see what was happening so i could get a handle on what their issue is. but I don’t need to see it to know they better shape up. The offense was stagnant last week against dallas, and except for the first drive, they’ve done nothing except suck today

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed..

it isn’t looking very promising currently.. Rodgers has to settle the offense down and put together a nice drive..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it of course doesn't help

that Ryan Grant has a 2.1 YPC average.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no thats not doing us any favors..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats a big stop there..

They have been driving at ease lately and to hold them to a field goal on a short field isn’t horrible..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

held them to 3

a Win for the defense, but they can only hold for so long

come on, now, Aaron. Show us what we saw against Minnesota and Detroit

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Rodgers is NOT playing well

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch.

thats all i can say.. Ouch

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this is why the offense is killing the team

two quick turnovers doesn’t give the defense sufficient rest, which i suspect is the reason they gave up a 4th-and-1

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

but keeping them out of the endzone

is huge. keep it up, defense. Maybe A-Rodg will figure it out in the second half

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

are they unable to protect the QB?

that’s the third sack they’ve allowed. Have we somehow turned into the Rams????

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes it's just the other team...

No doubt the second interception was a bad pass, but we can’t see if the WRs are getting open and also, give credit to the Bucs Defense…they are good…Brooks is playing like animal…and that Defensive line is very athletic.

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

halftime thoughts

The defense is our saving grace; holding the Bucs to 13 points after 2 turnovers and a terrible punt that gave Tampa possession at the GB 41 was an outstanding effort. Hopefully, they can get to the quarterback and maybe force some turnovers in our favor for a change.

the offense: what is happening? Rodgers has 2 picks so far, and Ryan Grant isn’t impressing anyone either. Save for that first drive, they’ve barely gotten into Tampa territory. Unacceptable; this offense should at least be able to get within Mason Crosby-range.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey for as bad as that 1st half was..

we’re only down 6 points. I have faith in McCarthy righting the ship at halftime

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah lucky to only be down 6...story of the game, Buc D

Don’t think Rodgers has faced a linebacker like Derrick Brooks…ever…The guy is like a hawk out there, Rodgers is his prey. Tampa is apparently dropping the linebackers into coverage…3 drop passes aren’t helping the cause either.

Anyways, when a team drops linebackers back…what is the right response? screen passes? Don’t know much about football strategy.

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if a team drops linebackers

you RUN the BALL

if all 3 of Tampa’s LB’s are going into coverage, that means there’s 5 Packer O-linemen against 4 Tampa D-linemen. You make a hole and run the ball.

That’s Football 101, why the offensive line can’t do it is beyond me.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Huge!!

Great job D!! Now lets put some points on the board

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE

finally, a turnover in OUR favor

can’t wait to actually see footage of that…if I ever get to….

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BIG PLAY

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Goddamn it

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

failed on a 3rd and 1???

they better not punt in thi sfield positon…make it happen!

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and of course they punt

they are DOWN by SIX POINTS and in TAMPA TERRITORY off a TURNOVER and they PUNT

my anger: alkfdj;lsauoijsa;ldkfjapeoij;elkwjfidalkjpeil;fkd

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright all..

be back shortly.. Closing up the shop and heading home..

Your 2008 NL Central Champs: Chicago Cubs!!! Go Cubs Go

by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll be gone for the rest of the game

in about 10 minutes.

go pack! stop sucking!

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

f

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

holding? kampman?

really???

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For me...

…its like playing against the bears last years…Brooks is playing like Urlacher…an animal, unstoppable.

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable..

maybe it isn’t a bad thing i can’t watch it right now..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

just wow

ryan grant is not the same player

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Sep 28, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good field position

Let’s get some points!

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

or not

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this absolutely sucks

if the offense cant get it together this is going to be a long season

by Pack Man on Sep 28, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OH YEAH

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome!!

Now we’re back in this

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES

I was complaining earlier that Rodgers was throwing to Jennings too much and being predictable, but this shuts me up. Alright, keep it up!

by Pack Man on Sep 28, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta give credit to the defense

for keeping us in this one so far

by Pack Man on Sep 28, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

penalties galore

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OH BABY

C-WOODSON

CLUTCH

71-89 - Eliminated

Adopted Giant: Daryl Maday - The roller coaster ride continues - Augusta to Norwich to San Jose, the latter of which has been a success so far. 1.59 ERA.

by rhys on Sep 28, 2008 2:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!!

We’re back baby!!

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am now a member of the...

Church of Woodson…call me a Woodsonite

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love it...

Chuck woodson …handing it to Chuckie…the real Chuckie is in the house.

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey...

INcredibly Giese only has 104 yards passing and we are in the 4th quarter…our defense has been AWESOME and we are without 2 starting in the secondary…wowsers

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Our Defense has been very good today..

3 picks and the running backs have had to work for every yard today..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

uh oh

hopefully not serious

by Pack Man on Sep 28, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

About 10 minutes ago ...

…they announced that A-rodg’s return was “questionable”….yeah the coaching staff was ULTRA conservative with flynn, running it on the 3rd and long…

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rouse out, Peprah in...

Peprah with a big hit…we are down to 3rd string safety

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

FAvre the ageless wonder...

5 touchdown passes! down to under 4 minutes…Pack in trouble…

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rodgers is warming up in the sidelines...

2 27 left in the game…Packers down 2 points

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well all we need is a fg

lets do this now boys..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

interception...

game over just about…rodgers was clobbered by GAines adams as he threw

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

um

what just happened? NFL says Flynn threw a pick?

by Pack Man on Sep 28, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thats the game everyone..

graham just busted a big one..

Your 2008 NL Central Champs: Chicago Cubs!!! Go Cubs Go

by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shiiiiit

I didn’t see this game ending up as a loss. the schedule is too hard to lose this one. gotta get the running game going or i think we’ll be seeing a lot more games like this.

by Pack Man on Sep 28, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is what happened...

Rodgers back to throw…Gaines was on his blindside…Rogers was throwing and Gaines nailed him right in the back…a crushing shot…the wounded duck landed right in the lap of the Tampa linebacker game over…

Packers bunched the line and Graham broke a big run….

the Packers defense gambled into the middle and were burnt…but they played heroically today…the commentators think the hot hot weather finally got to them in the last drive

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also...

Gaines adams seem to be untouched…total screw up by Clifton I Think

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My hunch is ...

…the pack struggles against the Cover 2…remmeber the Bears game last year? and remmeber the Redskins game last year! …they played the cover 2 too…(at the risk of sounding redundant)

And let us face it, the Tampa linebackers OWNED This game…the TEs Lee and HUmphrey were unheard from…the Pack got virtually zilch from the screen pass…

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for filling me in

2-2 after four games is by no means worst case, but its not great.

by Pack Man on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah 2 and 2 is probably realistic...

touchdown Earnest Graham…I think this game was close, no shame in losing to a tough physical team like the Bucs…and DAllas is simply the best team right now…so 2 and 2 seems fine with me…

by PackFaninFL on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks a little better since it looks like

minny is going to lose.

Your 2008 NL Central Champs: Chicago Cubs!!! Go Cubs Go

by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well have a good one all.

i guess lets go get them next week..

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by mkcubs21 on Sep 28, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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