Packers News: Game Times, DeShawn Wynn, and Mark Tauscher
by Brandon on Oct 14, 2009 7:00 AM CDT
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I wasn't going to write a post about the change of the Green Bay Packers' November 1st game against the Vikings, from noon to 3:15p.m., because I don't have a preference when it's played. But then I read Greg Bedard's great tweet:
Let's see, 3 hours of additional tailgating time for Favre's return. Yeah, that's going to help things.
Mitchell just pointed out that RB DeShawn Wynn isn't having a good season. Then it's reported that the Packers tried out a couple running backs, RB Ryan Torian and RB Quinton Ganther. Maybe it's a sign GM Ted Thompson has lost faith in in Wynn too. But then Greg Bedard again sets me straight. From JSOnline.com, discussing the news last month that LT Levi Jones came in for a workout:
That the Packers worked out so many offensive lineman does not mean anything. NFL teams, during the first four to six weeks of the season, routinely work out several players at the same position. Two weeks ago, the Packers worked out quarterbacks and receivers. Next Tuesday it could very well be running backs and linebackers.
Final word on the signing of RT Mark Tauscher: Bob McGinn says Tauscher will receive $700,000 in base salary, another $400,000 potential incentives, and comes with a $1.3 million cap charge.
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Wynn's Performance
Is another reason to be disappointed in the fact that Thompson let Tyrell Sutton get away. Hindsight is 20/20, but I really would have liked to have seen Sutton in Green and Gold this season.
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by texwestern on Oct 14, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see...
Sutton doing anything right now. As I see it he was a training camp phenom but there is no telling if he would have been anything more. Its rare that someone his size find success…sure there have been a few but they are not the norm.
by TrevorR on Oct 14, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think at this point we can throw away just about anything that happened in the month of August
If we’ve learned one thing from the O-Line…
by Danwood on Oct 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
This lust that has developed for Sutton because of pre-season is just another thing those who dislike Thompson keep pulling out. The guy is slower and smaller than Brandon Jackson. We have the better version of him on the Packers already, he just has been injured up until this point. I’ve stated this many teams, but Sutton was claimed by exactly ONE team off of waivers and that team didn’t have ONE clearly healthy tailback at the time. Since than he has been inactive every game. Why am I not concerned were missing him.
by GGGamer on Oct 14, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the few
Small backs that have made it have explosive speed and are good third down backs. Sutton has neither. He’s slow, not explosive, and he can’t pass block at all.
by GGGamer on Oct 14, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about DeShawn Wynn?
If so, you forgot “fragile.”
But I agree that Sutton is not the panacea. We simply don’t have a quality no. 1 tailback on the roster.
by ktenreb on Oct 15, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sutton
may have captured fans hearts but he was too small and a liability in pass protection. He also wasn’t that fast, and has had some serious injuries. Letting Sutton go didn’t affect anything, he wasn’t even Samkon Gado in my book.
by PackaCracka on Oct 14, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Small backs are more ideal for the zone blocking scheme
Right, but small backs are more ideal for the zone blocking scheme. Denver had a lot of small backs under Shanahan. That’s one reason why Mike Hart was good in his college days at the University of Michigan. He’s a liability in that sense, but he is also reliable at running the ball which is what Green Bay has not had in several years. Very very very upset about that decision. The smaller they are, the more difficult it is to spot them in the backfield. Then they shoot through the seam and get 5 yards a pop.
by Jabooty on Oct 14, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No matter how small...
RBs need to have a quick burst to play in the zone scheme. Sutton didn’t display even a hint of a burst, and didn’t do well in traffic.
It would have been interesting to stuff him on the practice squad, put him through a strength development program, and see if he shows anything next summer. With the restricted rosters, though, that was too speculative to gamble on. That’s an argument for expanding the size of the practice squads. The NFL needs to settle on a viable program to develop young players. They keep talking about it, but nothing seems to actually happen.
by RobertArthur on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torian
would be an interesting one to get in here…he knows the system and looked pretty good at times. He deserves another chance.
by TrevorR on Oct 14, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I wouldn’t mind looking at Torian either.
by GGGamer on Oct 14, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torian
I watched the guy play for the Broncos last year and he actually looked very good. He is smaller, but is fast and quick. I would love to see TT bring him in and cut Wynn.
by packallday555 on Oct 14, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Remember
A lot of people in Denver talked about him like he could be the next Terrell Davis and then right when he got back from the elbow he unfortunately tore his ACL. I don’t think as a running back his knee is ready to play yet, but I would definitely look at putting him on the practice squad in place of Lumpkin possibly.
by GGGamer on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Broncos fans were talking about him like he could be great as well as scouts and analysts. It’s worth a look at least. Lumpkin is a slower version of Grant and Wynn is not an NFL back.
by packallday555 on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
So here’s to signing Clinton Hart and having him take Jarrett Bush’s spot on the roster, and signing Torain to replace Lumpkin on the practice squad or Wynn on the active roster.
by GGGamer on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Hart as in the guy who used to play on the Chargers? I hadn’t realized he was available. We should consider it. We even could drop Giordano for Hart. He knows the 3-4 system.
Unforunately for us, TT will likely do neither of these, as he seems to be way to stubborn when it comes to evaluating guys he drafted.
by packallday555 on Oct 15, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Yeah Hart was released. He had a great season two years ago but he must not be getting it done. He can’t be worse than Bush and Martin. I had hopes for Martin based on what the Ravens coaches said about him but maybe he just needs more time to get the system down.
by GGGamer on Oct 16, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I remember him having a great year for them. I still have some hopes for Martin. He might still need to learn the system. If I’m not mistaken he was a CB for a while and had just recently switched back to SS.
Bush is just so bad. I just absolutely hate the guy. I was SO happy when the Titans offered him a tender, and then we actually matched it and wasted cap space on him! I couldn’t believe it. All the guy is good for is blowing coverages and getting dumb ass penalties, which as you know are both bad things.
by packallday555 on Oct 16, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sample Size
How can anyone be said to be having a “bad season” after 4 games and a whopping 6 total carries, mostly (if not all) coming on third downs? What does a guy have to do to “not suck” in that situation? Break a 15+ yard run every time he touches the ball? Get a first down on a 3rd & long?
Not that I’m defending Wynn…I just don’t see how anyone can make a judgement based off so little. The run game in general has been pretty absent so far all around.
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by bluejazz04 on Oct 15, 2009 12:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the fact
That he is the only other back on the team and he has that few of carries speaks a LOT about what the coaches think about him. This isn’t the first year we’ve seen him, he’s just not that great of a back and he always gets hurt.
by TrevorR on Oct 15, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can anyone be said to be having a "bad season" after 4 games and a whopping 6 total carries, mostly (if not all) coming on third downs? What does a guy have to do to "not suck" in that situation? Break a 15+ yard run every time he touches the ball? Get a first down on a 3rd & long?
So where I would normally agree with you I can’t here. Wynn is the same as he has been since we drafted him. And no of course he doesn’t need to break a 15+ yard run everythime he touches the ball but at least being able to catch the passes that a thrown right to you with nobody within 5 yards of you would be a start.
It’s just obvious when watching that the guy really doesn’t have what it takes to have an impact for us. He is slow, small, and has horrible hands.
by packallday555 on Oct 15, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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