NFL Trade Deadline Today, 3pm CST
by Brandon on Oct 20, 2009 7:15 AM CDT
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I haven't read of any trade rumors involving the Green Bay Packers, though Greg Bedard asked if LB Desmond Bishop might be traded. The only obvious move might have been a trade for a veteran offensive tackle, but signing RT Mark Tauscher has that covered.
GM Ted Thompson hasn't been shy about making a trade, especially if it involves a team based in New York, and there were plenty of TE Tony Gonzalez rumors last season.
The two big trades this month has been WR Braylon Edwards to the NY Jets, which seems like a win so far for the Jets. And the Bears traded for DE Gaines Adams, and that seems like an early win for the Buccaneers. The Bears might not be done either. With injuries to LB Hunter Hillenmeyer and LB Brian Urlacher, they might receive LB Derrick Johnson from the Chiefs.
Will see if anything happens today. And should the Packers be making a move?
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by PackerHaiku on Oct 20, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kampman
We should consider trading him while he has value to other teams. He is completely miscast in the 3-4 offense, unless we are going to run make him going into the three-point stance a trend. He has been a great Packer; it would be a shame to see him go, but allowing him to play elsewhere is the most fair thing to do for him and the team.
by NYCPac on Oct 20, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree somewhat...
If Kampman is in the game, where ever he is, whatever he is playing…he needs to be moving towards the QB on blitzes. I don’t even care if the other team knows this is going to happen, he needs to blitz more. Move him on a down three on certain passing downs if you must.
I understand the notion that he does not fit the 3-4, but whiile he is here, make him do what he does best regardless.
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by Bush League All Star on Oct 20, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your point
However, if he is always in three point stances and blitzing, then we really are not running a 3-4. Running a hybrid 4-3 of some sort is fine with me, but he remains a square peg every time the 3-4 aspects require him to drop into coverage.
He would truly be better off as a player somewhere else. He has been a great professional in accepting the new defense and trying his best, but his skills are wasted right now.
by NYCPac on Oct 21, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawk
We’d be selling low, but Hawk’s expendable, and might fetch something.
Would love to see some Tackle depth brought in as well.
by swilldog on Oct 20, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He’d fetch more than you think…and there is a very good chance that he would probably do well for some other team. He’s got more talent than people give him credit for.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100% on Kampmann needing to be traded
He does not fit the 3-4 defense and it is highly unlikely that we will not resign him after this season as he prefers the 4-3 defense. How devastating would it be to us to see him sign in Minnesota next year? We can get a 1st Round draft pick out of him if we trade him now while we can. Otherwise, an excellent young Offensive Tackle would do the trick. Maybe we can work out a 3 way trade with Cleveland and another team so the Packers can bring in OT Joe Thomas, the 3rd team gets Aaron Kampmann, and Cleveland gets whatever that team is will to give up. Obviously, that 3rd team having a 4-3 defense. P.S- we cannot trade LB Desmond Bishop. If anything, try him out in Kampmann’s position as a hybrid OLB if we trade Kampmann, it doesn’t hurt to experiment, although he does seem more suited to play ILB.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Thomas ain't going anywhere
"stay (green and) gold"
by Green and Bold on Oct 20, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Thomas
Right, it is highly unlikely, but it doesn’t hurt to look into. My point was to try and get a young stud OT, that’s all.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Thomas
We could have sent Brady and/or Chill along with next years 1st and 2nd for Thomas and the Browns 3rd. Cleveland needs linebacker help and would get two starters, along with more draft help to rebuild their team. We would get the right tackle we need now and in the future. We can move Clifton to RT when healthy. Clevelands 3rd will probably not be much further down the list than our 2nd on draft day. If we keep the 1st and 2nd Ted will probably call Millen for advice… and pick a reciever.
by blackbasssultan on Oct 20, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else think/suspect
That TT believes that he has done enough to get O-line talent and that the current failings are up to the coaches and players on hand to resolve? I just get the sense that he is so in love with the potential of some of his late picks that he is going to err on the side of patience with the O-line. Of course, I would deem that a bad decision, but I do not get paid to make those types of decisions.
I feel bad for Kampman.
by NYCPac on Oct 20, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I don’t know why he would think that when the team did just as poorly this week. I am sure he’d look if the right offer came up but honestly solid Olineman don’t pop up around the corner too often.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point was not that the line is doing well in his eyes
My thought was that he thinks he did everything that he should have as a GM to get the talent. I also think that he feels that most of the current players, despite the current struggles, will develop eventually.
I just get that feeling from him. I know that he resigned Tauscher, but that feels like an idea to buy more development time for the young players.
by NYCPac on Oct 20, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO
Thompson would have liked to draft a LT, but he hasn’t had the chance to get one in the 1st. He has had to make do w/ trying to find mid/late rd gems… If given the chance to get a good LT he would have done so, but he couldn’t and didn’t reach to take one. OG, I don’t think he has seen an OG that was worthy of a 1st in recent years and frankly neither have I. Just as easy to find a good OG in the mid rds anyway… I am fine w/ most of his OL picks.
Colledge was a very good LG last year, Spitz is going to be a much better C than he was OG and Sitton is doing well so far at RG, he just needs some more time. OT are much harder to come by!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colledge has never been good
Don’t delude yourself. The guy has been marginal on his best days. Spitz is a better guard than Colledge, but he’s also a better center than Wells. The whole idea behind gong to the zone blocking scheme was to try to hide the lack of strength and talent in the current crop of interior offensive linemen.
by ktenreb on Oct 20, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colledge
This guy was good in 08’ for us. Why are people so down on him? Sure, he sucks as an LT but that’s because it’s not his position. He has been good at LG this year, as Spitz and Sitton have as well. Our interior really is just fine, it’s the T’s that have been killing us. Lang has been a pleasant surprise at LT, and looks like he might be our starter in the future. He is is strong and explosive, but most importantly he is phyiscal and tough. For next years draft we NEED to find a RT.
The zone blocking was probably largely due to Tauscher and Clifton not having that same explosion that they once did run blocking. And we didn’t really have our RG position figured out either.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colledge graded out as the best OL for the Packers last year! Better than Spitz… And the zbs was brought in by McCarthy before the Packers drafted either Colledge or Spitz! Both were drafted specifically to play the zbs.
Get some facts right next time or just go away
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interior Linemen
Our interior offensive linemen have done ok in pass protection, but terrible in run blocking. Sure, Grant is not that good, we all figured that out, but he has not received any help in blocking either. It’s difficult to run when no holes or lanes are open for him to run through.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of our
Run plays are stretches and zone plays to the outside. When Grant has actually ran the ball well it’s been up the middle.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, we need to get one thing straight...
There are rounds between the first and fifth rounds. I would have liked to have seen some OLine picks somewhere in rounds 1 to 3, sometime in the past three seasons. I mean, it is not as if our tackles got old overnight.
by NYCPac on Oct 21, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kampman
Dont be DUMB!!! Kampman will never get a chance to sign in Minn. IF he hasn’t worked out as a 34 OLB by the end of the year the Packers will definitely franchise him, and then trade him. He will still have value to 43 D teams next year, and would bring a 1st or a 2nd and a 3rd.
Joe Thomas is NOT going anywhere, so get that out of your head!!! Cleveland has him locked down and will never trade him. He is part of the solution for the browns, and will be an All Pro LT for the next decade. They would have to get at least 2 1st rd picks for him!!!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
scary thought...
remember when Minny almost signed him away from us the year before he broke out? Wow that would have been a disaster! I think you are right on Kampman, there is no way he becomes a FA. I don’t think Minny could afford to go after him, their contracts are going to start creaping up on them now and you’ll see that they are going to start chilling out on the FAs now.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
There is no way we ever let that happen. I wouldn’t mind trading Kampman, though I think he will be much more successful as Capers has given him to get down in a 3 point stance whenever he feels necessary. Trading for a good T or RB would be good for us but I doubt we’ll do either.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deal Hawk
Bishop deserves playing time, Hawk is a chronic under-performer. Deal him while he still has some value.
"stay (green and) gold"
by Green and Bold on Oct 20, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like AJ Hawk, but a rotation with Bishop is a necessity
Sure, Hawk isn’t a huge playmaker on the field. However, we don’t ever see him make any crucial mistakes either. We never really hear his name on the field. That means he’s not getting burned, so he must be doing something right. Bishop brings big plays, but costly mistakes as well. At least with Hawk in there we know he isn’t going to make many mistakes, but when we don’t have momentum, we need Bishop in there to change the course of the game. Also, I don’t think Hawk would bring enough value considering he is not a huge playmaker on the field.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson
No not Brandon… Stephen Jackson could be had for the right price from what I have heard. He is wasting away in St. L and they are in full rebuild mode. By the time they are ready to compete again he will be 30 and useless. The trade I heard was this…
Stephen Jackson for Ryan Grant, a 2nd in 2010 and a conditional pick in ’11 (2nd or 3rd depending on Jacksons performance). This sounds like a good trade both ways! Jackson is wasting in ST L. Grant in underperforming. St L need draft picks to rebuild. Why waste a valuable commodity like Jackson when you can get a guy like Grant, use him while rebuilding and get a couple high draft picks?
Only other one I heard that sounded interesting was Kampman for Chris Long DE for St L… Long is stuggling playing DE in St L, Kampman MAY not be suited for OLB. Kampman would become a DE again, and Long who played at U Va was a 34 OLB all during college and could be used as a 34 OLB again.
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure on the Kampman deal, but I would take the Grant for jackson deal in a heartbeat!!!!
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would love the Jackson trade
Getting him would be so good for us. I figured we would have to give up a 1st rounder in either this years draft or next years draft, but if what you heard is correct then getting Jackson would be of great value.
I’ve been praying to god since last night that I’m going to look at yahoo sports and see that Jackson has been traded to us haha!
Where did you hear this?
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my Gosh, Please let it happen!
Strohman, I don’t know where you heard it but you got me going this morning. Those are both excellent trades for both teams. I hope TT makes it happen, although, it is after all TT. sigh. Please, please, please do us a favor and help this team with these couple options!!!!!
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wish
both sound really good to me as well, but sadly I don’t think St L is going to do either of them!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not
but you never know when draft picks are involved. i think it’s more of TT willing to make the deal as opposed to St. Louis. The Rams need draft picks more than anything, and TT doesn’t like to give them away. Where did you hear this rumor?
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wishlist?
sure the stephen jackson trade sounds great, but do we as packer fans expect TT to do something while the bears continue to improve. two quality players by the trade deadline(adams/johnson). I really don’t think you can trade Aaron Kampman, with his work ethic it may take him a lil while but he’ll get the 3-4. TT will keep his draft picks especially his high ones and continue to produce talents like Brandon Jackson, Justin Harrell, and Jordy Nelson. I only say Nelson because think what they could of had at that slot, oh lets not forget taking AJ Hawk over Adrian Peterson. Keep destorying a franchise that means the world to the community that owns it. By the way let’s sign Ahman Green, because he could be sitting on the shelf next to Justin Harrell and Brandon Jackson
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fool!!!
You are a fool… the more you open your mouth the more you remove all doubt!!!
Taking Hawk was in 06… Peterson was taken in 07… But don’t let FACT stop you from being the dumbazz… Peterson was passed on by 6 teams due to his injuries.
Peterson also had a LONG injury history in college, but that wouldn’t have stopped you from drafting him??? Why does it mean Harrell was a bust? Oh because Harrell got hurt in GB too?!!! Well it could just as easily have happened to Peterson too…
Who could we have taken w/ the spot we got Jordy at that has been such a stud? Nelson was taken w/ the 36th pick in the draft. Thats a high 2nd rd pick. Thompson traded down from 30 to 36. Let me know WHO you would have taken at either!!!
I hate people that act like they know something, but really don’t know SQUAT!!!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you...
I almost fell out of my chair when I read that we could have drafted Peterson in 2006 but got Hawk. Did the rest of the teams know that he was available cause he was passed on for all SEVEN rounds!!
Seriously though if that had happened, I think we would still have been fine. Remember we passed on Barry Sanders for Mandarich and somehow came out of that one okay in the 90s didn’t we?!?!
We did miss out on a few good players in trading to 36 to get Jordy. Donnie Avery has looked great so far. Carlson and Keller were both available as TE options. Forte and Eddie Royal went mid round too but I don’t think the JOrdy pick was awful. Wasn’t a need position but when Driver drives off into the sunset, Jordy should be ready to step into those shoes!
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After replacing Tom Bratz with Ron Wolfe
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jordy Nelson is a stud???
Really?
I hadn’t noticed. As far as I can see, he is a serviceable, part-time no. 3 receiver who muffs punts.
by ktenreb on Oct 20, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks bro
atleast someone else sees he’s forth round talent
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Storhman
Storhman says that Jordy Nelson is a stud, unless I misread it, which is possible since Storhman’s writing style is a bit, um, excited.
by ktenreb on Oct 21, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Nelson is by no means a stud at this point but he certainly has the potential to be. He has had some big plays for us this year, he just doesn’t have a ton of opportunities because of Jennings and Driver.
by packallday555 on Oct 21, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stud?
First its STROHMAN…
Second, I NEVER said Jordy was a stud… I asked who he would have taken INSTEAD of Nelson that is a stud. Keller comes up, but we got J. Finley in the 3rd, he’s just as talented as Keller as a reciever and will develop as a blocker, something Keller will never do… So that argument is a lost cause before it even begins!
by Strohman on Oct 22, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I re-read what you wrote
Stohrman — I re-read what you wrote. It appears that you did not claim that Jordy Nelson was a stud. You have a difficult writing style — it’s loaded with anger and nastiness that causes a reader to want to skip over the substance of your message, and in doing that I lumped yo in with those who are singing (to my utter amazement) the praises of Jordy Nelson as though he were the next coming of James Lofton. Now I see that was not your intent.
A word of advice: Tone it down! You don’t need to be such a little b***ard with your writing style. You have some decent opinions (your facts sometimes could use better research), but it all gets lost in the anger you express. Seriously dude, the way you write makes me wonder how many dead cats you have at home in your freezer.
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by ktenreb on Oct 22, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
While I like Jordy and think that he will be a good pick in the long run, your question inspired me to check out Draft History.com to see who went after our pick.
Here are some of the more interesting options:
6 37 Curtis Lofton Falcons LB Oklahoma
7 38 John Carlson Seahawks TE Notre Dame
11 42 Eddie Royal Broncos WR Virginia Tech
13 44 Matt Forte Bears RB Tulane
18 49 DeSean Jackson Eagles WR California
19 50 Calais Campbell Cardinals DE Miami (FL)
21 52 Quentin Groves Jaguars DE Auburn
23 54 Jason Jones Titans DE Eastern Michigan
24 55 Ray Rice Ravens RB Rutgers
Of course, right after Ray Rice was picked, we took Brian Brohm, for whom a jury is still deliberating. In perfect fairness, I want to note that I deleted some names of players who were either linemen (who I could not tell how they are faring) and some failures. Since Nelson has not gotten a chance to start, he has not really been given the same chance to shine as Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson have gotten.
However, there were other options. Some of those options represented bigger needs than WR for us at the time.
by NYCPac on Oct 21, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Gonzalez
Not sure anything will happen, but keep in mind TT had agreed to the trade for Tony Gonzalez. The Chiefs pulled the deal after it had been agreed on.
I am sure TT is looking at all options. What I like is that he doesn’t trade on 1 year impulse, he keeps the long term in mind. If he got Tony Gonzalez we also wouldn’t be playing Finley, who I think will be one of the best TE’s in the league.
From that lost trade we were also able to trade up for Matthews.
S-Jack is really good, but if Grant runs angry he will be fine. Saw him run well behind Q last week, really fought for some yards at the end there. He just isn’t that great with the zone blocking, too tentative.
by Acme on Oct 20, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Dumbazz!
my bad on the AJ Hawk deal but to comment on Harrell again to compare to Peterson’s injuries in college, how much did Harrell play his senior year
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Harrell's injury
was to his bicep, while Peterson had both knee and collarbone issues. Any injury is a bad one, but for a RB of Peterson’s mold, those are way bigger red flags than a DT with a busted wing. Harrell was an OK choice with the team’s needs in mind, but he was too much of a reach and therefore a gamble, which it’s almost safe to say Thompson lost on.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Oct 20, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
compare them?
Peterson
2004 – Freshman year played entire season and dominated. Amazing year…talk builds.
2005 – Severely limited by ankle injury and missed four games. Still rushed for 1200 yds
2006 – Broke his collarbone in October missed the rest of the regular season came back to play the bowl game.
Harrell
2004 – Started all 11 reg season games as a Sophomore before a high ankle sprain slowed him down. Earned defensive MVP honors in the cotton bowl despite being hobbled.
2005 – Junior season started all 11 reg season games. Second team all SEC honors
2006 – Senior season, defensive captain, played in only 3 games due to a torn left biceps tendon. Tried playing with the injury before being shut down.
Was he that much more of a risk than Peterson? Peterson was a HUGE risk as a top 10 pick at a position of decent strength for the Vikings. It was a high risk, high reward kind of move. I was disappointed to see the Pack go after Harrell as I thought there were more needed positions and more talented players on the board but it wasn’t as much of a reach as people think it was. It WAS however a big blunder on TTs part.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
my point is the consistent drafting of non-needs
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
specifically
my bad on the AJ Hawk deal but to comment on Harrell again to compare to Peterson’s injuries in college, how much did Harrell play his senior year
You specifically were talking about their injury history so there it is for ya. Both were very big injury risks…not that we had an opportunity for Peterson or anything. You never once said anything drafting non-needs though, maybe you thought it but it never showed up in your posts! You were rambling about blown draft picks and throwing out points that had no basis. (Hawk over Peterson when they were in different years, all the choices instead of Jordy despite not much there, etc)
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant?
Ryan Grant is the typical example of getting the big contract and failing.(miserably). The only problem with TT is he continues to be 30 mil under the cap when there are holes on the team tha could’ve been fixed
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Salary Cap room
Last time I checked the packers are 17 mil. under the cap second in the NFL. The lowely TAMPA BAY BUCS are 30 mil. But your right could use a few veterines in key positions next year, and offensive line help please.
by cheddarhead on Oct 20, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bishop?
What do we plan on doing with Des Bishop. How bout giving up AJ Hawk and making des the starter, atleast he makes plays
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Strohman!
Dustin Keller sounds like the right move that way we could run 2 tight end set. D-Lee is useless too!
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Donald Lee is actually one of the more consistent performers on the team
and he’s a better blocker right now than Finley. Don’t get me wrong, Finley is the future, but Lee is a quality starter for the meantime.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Oct 20, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I would take...
Both Finley and Carlson over Keller I think and they both went after him.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
D-Lee
Yeah consistent at dropping passes
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t like anyone on the team than by all means feel free to rout for the viqueens… Or is it just that everyone we’re talking about was a Thompson acquision?
Thats really all it is, isn’t it… Thompson got them so you hate them!!!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not at all
but you have to question his first round picks outside of this year
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent
he’s an excellent second day drafter
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moss?
how do you feel about him passing on Randy Moss?
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah..
that Rodgers was a TERRIBLE pick. Good point.
Harrell was a bust…bad pick.
Hawk was a good pick. Exactly who they should have chosen. He hasn’t lived up to it yet but in my book there has been exactly ONE terrible first round pick for TT so far.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd round
outside of Jordy who isnt great how’s his 2nd round been. ie Brandon Jackson
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shelf huggers
he sure seems to draft a lot of injury prone players
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2005 – Nick Collins & Terrance Murphy
2006 – Darryn Colledge & Greg Jennings
2007 – Brandon Jackson
2008 – Jordy Nelson, Brian Brohm, & Patrick Lee
2009 – None (traded for Matthews)
Yeah…second round has kinda been REALLY good to us actually. Pro Bowl Safety, Pro Bowl WR, starting guard, quality #3 WR, backup tailback, and a few misses.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Brohm was a big miss and Pat Lee. Murphy I believe ended with a severe injury. Brandon Jackson is too soft for the NFL,hurt more than he plays. Colledge and Nelson are alright not great but alright. Job well done on collins and jennings. All I’m saying is with Ron Wolfe everybody wanted to be in Green Bay. With TT nobody wants to even come in for a visit. He has the belichick philosophy right,but doesn’t get the same results. BY far.
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Belichick's philosophy didn't work for years either
He’s only had success as of late in his career.
by Danwood on Oct 20, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're Serious?
belichick turned that team around almost immediately. Parcell’s left the team in a bad spot cap wise and he found ways to eliminate contracts like bledsoe and glenn and began drafting players like Seymor Wilfork Brady Maroney not to mention the O-line.
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Belichick's career spans FAR more than the Patriots
You may want to see his tenure with the Cleveland Browns, to start. Belichick has been coaching since the 70’s.
by Danwood on Oct 20, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
absoluetly
Can you argue with the sucess of him and Kraft in NE though?
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thus I said:
“He’s only had success as of late in his career.”
Meaning:
The Belichick method does not work all the time
by Danwood on Oct 20, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not
maybe not all the time but why is 90 percent of the NFL following his lead now
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
Everyone wanted to play in Green Bay…HA. Nice…sorry but not really true. You make it sound like we were some free agent paradise yet we all know how infrequently Ron Wolf went after big FA’s.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really
reggie white sean jones seth joyner eugene robinson santana dotson, andre rison keith jackson. i guess that speaks for itself
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reggie White – yes
Sean Jones – don’t know about “big” FA but still an important piece
Seth Joyner – was on the downside of his career and never made much impact with the Pack
Eugene Robinson – hardly a big FA. Good solid player but not much more
Santana Dotson – great pick up
Andre Rison – similar to Seth Joyner. We gave him a chance when no one else did
Keith Jackson – was a trade who had to be talked into coming to GB.
Facts can be your friend
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 20, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nick mangold wouldnt have been better
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally
By my count there are 15 guys picked after Hawk in that draft who have made the Pro Bowl. But of coure, Hawk was the only possible choice.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Oct 20, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i was talking 2nd round lmao
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah...
We totally should have drafted Cortland Finigan with pick #5. That is a dumb argument. Sorry, but fail.
There have been 8 guys who have made the pro bowl in round 1 of that draft. Two of them were taken before us…yeah Vince Young made the pro bowl…is that REALLY the bar you want to set? In the next 10 picks there was exactly 1 pro bowler, Jay Cutler. Lots of other mediocre players and some very good players but that doesn’t mean they would have made sense in OUR system at the time.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top Five pick
There are certain positions you should draft with a top five pick. Corners on defense, de’s, ot’s wr’s and rb’s
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collins
nick collins has had one good year. should we pay him like we did Grant and suffer
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this one deserves a face palm
Kind of a shame the Rockies aren't around to win it for Balloon Boy
-billyok
by blackoutsox on Oct 20, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what i mean is he over pays his own guys after one good year, and doesn’t take a risk such as faneca, moss, or for that matter any known FA
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets take a look at the list of overpaid self aquired players after one good year
1. maybe grant
2. nobody
but we do need some trades and FA signings, time to make the next step
Kind of a shame the Rockies aren't around to win it for Balloon Boy
-billyok
by blackoutsox on Oct 20, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brady Poppinga, Brandon Chillar(he’s ok but overpaid) D-Lee
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the Moss argumnet again
Moss absolutely would not have made us any better in 2007. Would he have helped us win any of the 3 games we lost in 2007? Would he have made a difference in the NFC Title game? Would Jennings have been able to develop as he has as a #3 receiver?
You can criticize TT but please don’t use Moss as an example. What’s next? Wahle & Rivera?
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 20, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this guy is going to demand ed reed or polamalu money do you think he’s at that level
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What!?
Completely different situation. Collins was arguably the second best FS in the league last year. He had 9 INTs, which was the same as this guy named Ed Reed..don’t know if you’ve heard of him or not. Plus he was all-pro 1st team and made the pro bowl.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holes?
You have to agree we have holes on our team. His inability to pull the trigger on a dominating free agent urks me more than his drafting. I agree with building from within, but when there are all-pros out there to be had and not even look at them is pretty sad
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
holes
What team doesn’t have holes?!!! Would I have liked to see a couple more FA? Sure, but certainly NOT the dominating FA you want. I would prefer more of the Chillar, Pickett types… Role players that have a tendency to play ABOVE their pay!!!
How has Haynesworth worked out for Washington?! Really well hasn’t he… LMAO
Actaully when you look at it objectively. Thompson has a history of picking his FA carefully. But when he DOES get one, every one of them seeems to produce well above what they are being paid!!!
I would even include A. Smith… I liked his signing from the beginning, while everyone else hated it. Thought it was a mistake to cut him, but he didn’t play ST and if your a backup safety, you better play ST or you’ll be replaced!!!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A smith
i agree with anthony smith, however miss on alan faneca. albert haynesworth was way overpaid. Aaron rouse sure worked out better. oh lets not forget jarret bush he was worth paying
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where was Chillar last season, on the pine. Right now you have one of capers boys from NE one the market which would allow Kampman to move back to the line and the linebackers and D-line would be about as deep as the giants
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rams
I wonder what Rams he’ll sign this year, if it’s not atogwe who cares
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
But how much better would we be with 2 quality tight ends?
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two TE
Are you seriously saying that you would have been Happy w/ Thompson taking 2 TE very high in the same draft?!!! Come on… Get freakin real!!!
You would be biotching to high heavens that Thompson wasted 2 high draft picks on a position you can be fine having 1 strong TE and a blocking TE…
At least know yourself… Everyone can see right thru you, except YOURSELF!!!!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude?
The biggest advantage we had in our 96 season was chmura and jackson. Carlson/Keller plus Finley in the third round sounds like a winner to me. anyone who supports TT this much must be a bears or vikings fan
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Blow
NOBODY would have been happy if Thompson had drafted Keller/Carlson in the 1st AND Finley in the 3rd!!! I know full well that Chmura/Jackson did alot to get us a SB too!!! I live in GB then…
You are fooling only YOURSELF if you think you would be cheering Thompson for drafting 2 TE in the top 3 rds fo the same draft.
And I just said that I tought it was a mistake to cut Smith… I am a Thompson fan, but I can say when I disagree. You just disagree w/ everything at the expense of common sense!!!
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, I stand by some of TT’s decisions, and am dissapointed by others. Yes, he irritates me, but there are worse GM’s out there. Also, Strohman, you need to lay off. This is a forum for fans to discuss opinions, stories, and rumors. Your offensive words towards others are not necessary.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
West Coast offense
What I’m saying is running a zone blocking west coast offense, you need good blocking receivers and backs. I’ll give him all the credit in the world with the Favre situation, but he needs not to just take the best prospect on the board, but draft needs
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needs
You mean needs like Raji and Matthews? I can see how he is ignoring needs… LOL
At the same time they were needs that were the best player available!!!! I agree w/ not reaching for lesser talent.
by Strohman on Oct 20, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're alright man!
Just frustrating when you see one of the best QB’s on his ass every play. Yes I know he hit the homerun with Rodgers. Faneca, Levi Jones, Mark T (at the beginning of the year so he was ready) Jon Runyan all mid level price except Faneca and our line could have been tons better than watching Barbre and Sitton get there asses kicked all game long
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with ya there…it IS very frustrating. This oline HAS to be addressed in a serious way next year. The key for me with Thompson is to see if he can transition his strategy from rebuilding mode to win now mode. If he keeps in rebuilding mode, I’ll be with ya, shove him out the door. I like what he’s done so far but the next phase needs to start NOW.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
the win in ten years thing doesnt work with brett favre or aaron rodgers and i’d hate to see him get as bitter as brett has
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we can’t all blame TT. The Packers have gotten tight since Mark Murphy took over
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
could’ve shored up the linebackers more with James L. from Ohio St also. And how bout SS Atari Bigby is not the answer and he spends an awful lot of time on the shelf too
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check it out!
You have Bob Melvin doing everything he can to put a winner on the field with the low budget Milwaukee Brewers. You have TT trying to pinch pennies with one of the richest franchises in the NFL. Do you see the problem I have with TT? TT would be a fantastic GM on a low budget club, but if you have money use some of it and atleast look like you’re trying to build a winner
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Bob Melvin is the GM for the Brewers now?
Maybe he can give some suggestions to help Tom Thompson out as the Packers GM
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 20, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
Looks like more and more disappointed Packer fans are logging on now. Ted THompson has got the next GM set up perfectly with the 30 million under the cap. By the way the Browns and the Rams look like big sellers right now. Oh wait I just got a text from TT Its reads( I’m on vacation.)
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm... richest franchise? Really?
You know that the Packers are only in respectable fiscal shape despite playing in one of the smallest sports markets because of revenue sharing and the salary cap. The cap may be gone when the current CBA expires. If the Pack spend recklessly, our team’s long-term health could come into question.
Still want to mock what you do not intimately know?
by NYCPac on Oct 21, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys were needs because of other moves
He’s drafted a lot of DEs and LBs. Would Raji have been a need if he hadn’t flubbed the Harrell pick and traded away Corey Williams? Matthews looks good, but again, that was a necessity because a lot of his LB picks have not worked out.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Oct 20, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
linebacker have been ok outside of hawk who underachieves weekly. NFL has too much speed for big ten linebackers anymore. look at what florida did to ohio st. Clay matthews, Brian Cushing and Rey maualuga. have done more in a quarter of a season then aj hawk has done in his career
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Williams
has been a very poor fit in the 3-4 for Cleveland. He was rumored to be on the trade blocks twice this year now. He likely woudln’t have made a good transition this year too though it would have been nice to have him around last year!!
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland overpaid for him. But outside of drafting Joe Thomas what moves have been good for cleveland
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Raji and Mathews were huge needs for Green Bay in the last draft, just as the OT position was. Problem was, we did not think Micheal Oher would pan out, so that is one reason why he fell down the draft boards. There weren’t really any other OT’s good enough to take until the 3rd Round.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
finley was like 91st overall thats not all that high
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finley was a steal
In his draft announcing, ESPN said, “Finley is an explosive TE that left college early after his Sophomore year at Texas. If he would have stayed another year or 2, he surely would end up as a 1st Round pick. Green Bay got a steal.”
He was drafted in the 3rd Round.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha don't even try
A TT basher can find a way to skew that statement or turn it on TT.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Common sense?
If they’re game changers why not?
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Game changers are our need
Games are won in the trenches. I think we would atleast agree on that, and I guess we could still have Mike Sherman running the show. I think his draft picks could be complimented by some mid to high level free agents
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Which is why we drafted Raji
With our first pick this year. I would bet my life that TT will take a T in next years draft. At least he better or I might have to jump on ship with some of his haters.
Has TT been great? No, but he has been good. He misses on picks but he also hits home runs with some picks as well. I would like for him to a bit more active in FA as well.
But he has built a very young talented team. Once we get a RT who can actually play opposing LE’s this team will be very successful.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RT LT(cliffy’s old and banged up) and RG LG. Spitz is about the only sure thing on the line. there was plenty of adequate O-lineman in FA
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Moll wasn’t that bad either, Derrick Martin hmm? another bargain
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Baltimore took Tony Moll they probaly would have taken Allen Barbre
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Moll wasn't that bad?
He was awful! He caused more penalties than any other lineman on our current roster, how pathetic is that after giving up 13 penalties for 130 yards to the Lions!? Trading him for Martin was an even trade if not better for us. Moll’s penalties and mistakes on the field drove me insane.
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing wrong with sitton
actually he might be the most consistently good oliner this year for us
Kind of a shame the Rockies aren't around to win it for Balloon Boy
-billyok
by blackoutsox on Oct 20, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
but you also see spitz and wells helping him a lot and i’m not seeing any gaping holes for grant to run through
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clifton is old and banged up but he can be a serviceable guy until we can find someone to replace. (And we might have already found someone in Lang). Sitton has been good this year as well. Did you catch the Vikes game? They have this guy named Kevin Williams, and he did a damn good job against him. And Colledge is a solid guy as well. Everyone wants to hate on him and I’m not sure why. Maybe it’s because he was so bad at LT when he played there but that’s probably because he isn’t suited to be a T in the NFL. Really the only thing we need is a RT because Barbre is horrible.
And Moll isn’t that bad??? It seems you don’t know a whole lot about o-line play (which is fine because most don’t) and you didn’t do much homework on checking out our o-line. Moll graded out as our worst lineman last year…
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my take on Colledge
Plays high, lacks explosiveness. Poor footwork. Seems to have some confidence issues. Better in a zone blocking scheme because of lack of drive strength. Definitely a bottom-half-of-the-league interior lineman, not a tackle prospect.
Moll is a right guard, but not a very good one.
by ktenreb on Oct 21, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has one problem
And it’s that he plays high like you said. Which is probably the cause of his lack of drive strength. But that is something that can be coached and really taken care of pretty easily.
While I don’t think he is one of the top LG’s in the league, I don’t think he is bottom half either. I would say he is about average. He did grade out as our best o-lineman last year.
I still think our T’s are much more of a concern. Next years draft really should be one full of o-lineman, and I would hope with all that cap room we have we might go and sign a good o-lineman.
by packallday555 on Oct 21, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole line is a mess
If it’s so easy to teach Colledge how to drop his butt, why haven’t the Packers been able to do it yet? It’s not going to happen.
Spitz and Sitton are salvageable (Spitz as a center), actually better than that. We have committed to Barbre, for some reason, so we might as well give him the year to see if his growing pains diminish (let’s just hope our QBs don’t get killed in the process). Clifton is fine when he’s healthy, but the “when he’s healthy” part of the statement is the problem.
If I were King of the Packers, I would this offseason:
Devote a very high draft pick to a tackle
Devote another high draft pick to an interior lineman.
Note that I said that I would draft or sign a “tackle” and an “interior lineman.” I would look for players who play those positions. I’m done with the experiments on “athletes” playing on the O-line.
by ktenreb on Oct 21, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem with TT
Biggest problem with TT is settling for being competitive and not going for a championship.
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Green?
How do you guys feel about Ahman Green?
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BOO
don’t want him…he needs to just retire.
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m afraid TT will sign him just cuz he might be a bargain
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dominic Rhodes too. anyone know why we traded Samkon Gado. Oh he was one of Sherman’s guys not TT’s
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda explains aaron rouse over anthony smith
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's so easy
Too just look at all the picks that have failed and talked about them, but you could do that for EVERY gm in the league besides Kraft.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the dude earlier told me i was full of it when i mentioned Kraft and Belichick
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really is
but in the same breath it’s kinda the Matt Millen philosophy thats killing us. Drafting the same positions early year after year
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TT
Does do this too a degree with wr’s but he is no where near the level of Millen. And he didn’t draft a wr last year which is good because of wr corps is very, very good.
I hope he gets Millen syndrome in next years draft in the form of OT’s.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well in the past 3 years
Bellicheck has drafted just 3 starters; Gostkowski, Merriweather, & Mayo. Maroney has been a disappointment. Not trying to claim that Bellicheck should be fired or anything, but his recent draft history is hardly sparkling
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 20, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
He has had a couple of off years but if you look at 05’ and 06’ you would be amazed by how many of them still play for the Patriots and have made a pretty big impact on them.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
He has done a great job of drafting over the years. Just pointing out that no one is perfect in their drafting. Some people would have you believe that TT is the only guy who has busts in his draft history.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 20, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't want him
Green is washed up and he already struggled once with the zone blocking scheme, so why try him out again with older legs?
by Jabooty on Oct 20, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rossum
Allen Rossum could have filled our return needs and probaly kept Jordy healthy
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha NO
He thinks he is worth way too much money. All he can do is return punts. He has no value anywhere else.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
he’ll probaly get in the endzone more than Grant though and again probaly would have kept Jordy healthy
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda the same thought of desmond howard. how many games did he win fo us in 96
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and again probaly would have kept Jordy healthy
It does upset me that Nelson ended up getting hurt returning kicks but then again it doesn’t. Nelson is the best kick returner we have and really has looked like a great kick returner in the limited number of returns we’ve seen him in. Hell, he took the opening kick back for a TD only to have it called back because of one of our dumbass reserve o-lineman. Injuries are a part of the game, they happen pretty every game and it’s a risk that you have to be willing to take.
It hurts that Nelson is out but it will also likely help Jones get back in a groove (started that last Sunday with a 50 yard TD catch).
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Nelson is an above-average kickoff returner but I just don’t think he can handle the punt return duties. I mean, you can’t return anything if you don’t catch the ball.
Injuries do happen and it sucks that he got hurt. But if you get hurt playing your position it’s one thing. It’s when you get hurt doing something other than your position (I.e. Woodson returning punts) that I would get upset. Hopefully Nelson will be fine.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 20, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He is not a good punt returner.
And agree with what you said about getting hurt while not playing your position, I’m not disappointed about Nelson being our kick returner. He is great at returning kicks and has shown he could have a big impact on games for us while returning (opening kick TD called back because of stupid ass penalty).
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clintin hart
why not bring this guy in for a workout, he’s familiar with the 3/4. and he would probaly come dirt cheap after being released by SD
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dude
you need a hobby. You have posted like 25 new comments in the 15 minutes between the last two times I checked this thing…seriously!!
by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just paged up through his comments.
And I burst out laughing when I saw how many of them there are!
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 20, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would really actually make sense for us to do.
by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what can i say?
I love the Packers, Brewers, and Bucks and after working all night and having to stay up with my babies while the wife works you’re kinda limited in the hobbies you can have
by dgreatone2002 on Oct 20, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, that works!
You’re adding to the discussion here!
Though I hope you can get some rest soon.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 20, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we end up trading for someone?
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 20, 2009 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't read any of this
But I’m assuming it was filled with lots of Thompson bashing.
by Charlie Kelly on Oct 21, 2009 6:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There was some
However, there was also some valid and interesting discussion, if one is willing to sift through the chaff to get it.
by NYCPac on Oct 21, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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