That's More Like It
Last week's blowout of Detroit was the least exciting 26-0 victory I had ever studied. There were numerous miscues, stupid penalties, awful pass protection, and reaggravated injuries.
This week's 31-3 blowout of Cleveland? Much more exciting.
As usual, I'm going to start off by analyzing the negatives. Yeah, yeah, simmer down, there weren't that many this time. Once again, what follows are all impressions that I got despite not watching the game. (Sidenote: If anyone has a problem with me breaking down the games using NFL.com's video packages, play-by-plays, and box scores, please e-mail me for information on my favorite charity, Mitchell's DirectTV Fund.)
- 8 penalties for 70 yards. While they cut the yardage lost to yellow flags from last week by 50%, this is still far too many flags. Some of them were just downright sloppy (Al Harris' facemask of Mohamed Massaquoi, 12 men on the field, Atari Bigby's unnecessary roughness). Others were fairly normal calls (Brady Poppinga's defensive holding, Donald Lee's offensive holding and offensive pass interference, Al Harris' illegal contact).
I can live with the holding penalties (provided they occur at lower rates), but the sloppy mistakes really bother me. Especially Harris' facemask, where he overran the receiver and reached back to grab whatever he could, despite having help on the tackle. - Jermichael Finley's short day. Before the game, one of my friends was debating whether he should start Finley or Owen Daniels in fantasy football. I was adamant that Finley was going to have a career day against Cleveland and that Daniels would struggle against San Francisco's linebackers. Had he listened to me, he would have gotten the dreaded double-whammy of a starter getting hurt and the benched player going off for a point explosion.
Finley has looked really good in 2009, and has shown improvement each and every week. Seeing him in street clothes before halftime was not an encouraging sign, even if they didn't need him against the Browns.
I have yet to see any news regarding Finley's diagnosis and how much time he will miss. As soon as I do, I'll post an update. Especially since one of today's problems was... - Stalled drives. I know I shouldn't complain about a day where the offense gets both a 1-yard run and a 5-yard pass for touchdowns. But in the early going, the Packers had their first drive stall at the Cleveland 32-yard line. Later, on the first drive of the second half, they had a drive stall at the Cleveland 37-yard line, and followed that by settling for a field goal after getting 1st-and-goal from the Cleveland 8-yard line.
While this might be considered nitpicking (mainly because it is nitpicking), the fact that the offense had three drives stall in the opponent's territory is somewhat worrisome. Against Cleveland, you can get away with it, but heading into the toughest part of the 2009 schedule, the offense needs to sustain every drive it possibly can.
If Jermichael Finley is healthy, this will probably be a lesser problem going forward. A big target like that is a major asset, especially deep in enemy territory. However, if he's going to miss significant time, it's up to the rest of the offense to step up and make scores happen whenever they cross midfield.
See, that wasn't so bad, was it? Now let's talk about the positives.
- Donald Driver and the Fountain of Youth. When I was in grade school, my favorite subject was social studies. Social studies was a fancy way of combining history and political science, which ended up being my concentration in college. One of my favorite stories in this subject was Ponce de Leon searching for the fountain of youth in Florida. Clearly, he was looking in the wrong spot, since Donald Driver has evidently used it in the Midwest.
While Driver only had 2 catches for 84 yards, his 71-yard touchdown came off of a beautiful hot read by Rodgers, who saw the seam in coverage and zipped it between the defenders and into Driver's chest. From there, Driver showed off the acceleration, angular running, and body control that made him the franchise reception leader. He might not be AP, but he can still get it done in the open field. Just ask Eric Wright.
At 34, Driver is leading the team in catches (27), yards (479), and touchdowns (3). While this is awesome in so many ways, it's curious that Greg Jennings' numbers are not at the same levels. Jennings had another relatively quiet day (5 catches, 52 yards), and his stats for the season are modest by his historical standards.
Some readers attribute this to the new development of defenses double-covering Jennings to prevent big plays. I tend to agree with this assessment, especially since Jennings hasn't seen consistent double-coverage in his career yet. Plus, it explains why Driver has been able to make so many big plays; he has less defenders in his way. - Aaron Rodgers' short day. Anytime your starting quarterback has a line of 15/20 for 246 yards and 3 scores by the middle of the fourth quarter, it's time to give the backup some reps. That's exactly what happened today, and it is a welcome sight.
It helps that Rodgers was able to avoid what little pressure Cleveland managed to throw his way and come away unscathed. Today's zero sack performance by the offensive line lowered the per-game average from 5.0 to 4.1. We can build on this! - T.J. Lang = LT of the future? If you would have asked me in September where Lang would have ended up this season, I would have told you that he would either be on the bench or in the rotation at RT. I never would have thought he would have made such a good case for starting at LT. Chad Clifton's ankle injury will likely keep the mainstay tackle sidelined for a few weeks, and we already know that Daryn Colledge can't handle the position.
Lang, however, has looked solid in his three week audition. He gets excellent force behind his initial punch, but more importantly, he follows through by creating contact with the defender. While Detroit and Cleveland are not defensive stalwarts, keeping a man of that size at bay is impressive, and Lang now has the inside track towards starting against Jared Allen next week.
Will T.J. Lang be able to protect Rodgers' blindside from the best pass rusher in the league? I don't know. But I do know that he will give Rodgers a much better chance than a gimpy Chad Clifton or Daryn Colledge, who clearly belongs at LG. - Ryan Grant earning his paycheck. Raise your hands if you're happy to see Grant put up a dominating rushing performance (27 carries, 148 yards, 1 TD).
OK, now raise your hands if you're irritated it took this long to happen.
While Grant's struggles are well-documented on this site, I place myself in the "better late than never" camp when it comes to success on the ground. A consistent run game gave Green Bay a 10-minute edge in time of possession, and the workload allowed Grant to get into a rhythm and bust off some good carries. - Red zone defense. The Browns had an abysmal offensive showing, but they still were able to move into striking distance (inside the Green Bay 5-yard line) on two seperate occasions. The fact that the defense held them to no touchdowns and only one field goal speaks volumes of the defensive effort yesterday.
Charles Woodson again showed why he deserves to at least be in the conversation for DPOY (even if he won't win it) with a pick and a forced fumble. Aaron Kampman got good pressure all day, and came away with a sack. Cullen Jenkins and B.J. Raji consistently got penetration, which opened up plays for the linebackers. Jenkins also recorded a sack and a forced fumble. A.J. Hawk and Nick Barnett registered seven and six tackles respectively, and generally looked like they belonged on the field.
All in all, the defense looks active and aggressive, creating pressure from various positions and angles, flowing to stop the ball, cutting off running lanes from ball carriers, and forcing quarterbacks into bad throws. Sounds like a good recipe going forward to me. - Scoreboard watching. It's not even close to playoff time, but many of us were keeping tabs on the other teams in the NFC North that were in action. Seeing Chicago getting blown out by Cincinnati did wonders for some Packer fans' confidence, as it shows just how much the Bengals were overlooked at the beginning of the season. Likewise, seeing the Vikings' luck run out in Pittsburgh was equally therapeutic, even if the two biggest plays in the 4th quarter (Favre sacked, stripped, and the fumble returned for a TD and Chester Taylor's inability to snag a short screen pass that was thrown a bit too hard) were somewhat fluky.
The most important result from the weekend is Green Bay improving to 4-2 while Minnesota falls to 6-1 and Chicago to 3-3. Moving into second place in the division and only 1.5 games behind the leading Minnesota Vikings isn't the ideal scenario we imagined back in September, but it's a far sight better than it could be.
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I was also quite impressed with Al Harris.
He had another couple of bogus penalties called against him, and the Browns picked on him all day. But he held strong especially on that goal line stand. I love his physicality and it just irritated the heck out of the Browns young WR.
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by OznCoop on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Harris has taken a step backward but this was a nice game for him. Hopefully its a sign of things to come.
by TrevorR on Oct 26, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree
He’s not as sharp on all levels like the shut down corner he was a few years ago.. but he still has more than enough ability to do his job perhaps with just a bit of help on the speedsters.
by PackaCracka on Oct 26, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could've made the argument that he took a step back in 2007
but then, for when he played in 2008, he was fantastic.
Also, the alternative to picking on Al Harris is picking on Charles Woodson, so I wouldn’t read too much into it.
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by jobe on Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's always been my assumption
It’s not so much attacking Harris as it is taking your chances with him as opposed to Woodson
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 26, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were saying something on the Television...
about Al Harris and not being in bump-and-run coverage. I could heed that argument since I do believe both CB’s are very physical types. Time will tell though.
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by Bush League All Star on Oct 26, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When are we going to get Kampman involved,
especially in sacking the QB? He is what, in the top 3 in sacks the last 3 or 4 years? There has got to be a way to involve him more than to drop back in coverage. A Pro Bowl selection who we are not utilizing!
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by mrcubsfan on Oct 26, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The last two weeks
he’s been playing more and more on the line, and less in coverage.
So it looks like the team is one step ahead of your worries. :)
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by Mitchell_M on Oct 26, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was making plays
I saw Kampman out there getting some pressure on the QB. I wasn’t able to watch it as closely as I liked (was at a BWW in Minnesota) but I saw him pressuring the QB a few times. Sometimes a players impact doesn’t show up on the score sheet.
by TrevorR on Oct 26, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has been
Much more involved these past two weeks. He has a sack in both games, and tons of Qb pressures.
by packallday555 on Oct 26, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know its just the Browns...
but allowing ZERO sacks is ALWAYS a good thing. I hope this is a sign of our line starting to meld some more. If not its a sign of our offense making some good adjustments. The Browns have a nice D line that has put a lot of pressure on other teams this year so its not like this was a complete pushover group. The D has some talent, its the O that has NONE.
by TrevorR on Oct 26, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
job well done
Packers are a good team. To be a great team you need to go out on Sunday week after week and win games. Crush bad teams and fight like hell to beat good teams.
Detroit – crushed.
Browns – crushed.
Vikings – TBD.
Improvement on all sides of the ball. Defense is playing aggressive, o-line stepped up, more confidence, etc.
I feel much better about this Vikings game then the last one. As Kampman said, they have figured out a few things, put the right people in, made a few tweaks and it has worked well. Favre will have a much harder day. We will stop AD and Favre will push it a little.
Would be a HUGE win.
by Acme on Oct 26, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am with you
They played two really bad teams the last two weeks but the good news is we didn’t even give these guys a chance…we blew them both out which is what really good teams do. Notice the vikings struggled for at least the first half in each game. Not saying we are better than them but saying that is something for the Packers to hang their hat on. They destroyed the bad teams, now its time to hit the Vikes while they are down.
by TrevorR on Oct 26, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BJ Raji??
I read a JSOnline.com article that said BJ was in the backfield all day.
I don’t remember seeing him much on the field.
Anyone see him? How did he do?
He seems like he could grow into a dominant player if he can stay healthy and in shape.
by Acme on Oct 26, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He was
He got great penetration all game long. He didn’t ever get very close to the Qb (like we saw Jenkins and Kampman do), it was just more so him consistently pushing his guy into the backfield.
When the Browns had the ball in the 4th quarter on the goaline, he was a huge part of us stopping them. On 3rd and goal he knocked his guy back on his ass and creating the pile, which then allowed Hawk and others to come up and make the tackle.
Absolutely he will become a dominant player if he stays healthy. I know that ankle sprain has been a problem for him but we have to keep in mind he came into to camp late, and probably still isn’t in the best shape he will be in. He has shown some flashes of brilliance, and they have all been with him at 75-80%. I can’t wait to watch him play when he is at 100%.
by packallday555 on Oct 26, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ILBs seemed more noticable...
partly because the interior defensive line did a much better job absorbing blocks against the Browns. In this defense, that’s what Raji was brought in to do. It’s not going to draw a lot of attention, normally. The linebackers are the star players in this defense. The line sets them up to look good.
When his ankle heals, you might see some flashier plays because his quickness will return. Right now, he’s a big guy in the middle, doing what big guys in the middle do.
by RobertArthur on Oct 26, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it is not what BJ Raji does personally.
But what he does to help out other players. He seems to be facilitating traffic inside, moving lineman and taking up extra blockers. It is not as sexy as other defensive positions. But as long as he does his part, the rest of the line will have a much easier time doing their jobs as well.
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by Bush League All Star on Oct 26, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing to get too excited about, it’s cleveland.
by dsludo on Oct 26, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, after we beat Minnesota next week,
We’ll have plenty to be happy about. The only question is how much Green Bay will win by.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 26, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True...
If they beat Minnesota than that’s a different story.
At the current state, I definitely wouldn’t be bragging about beating Detroit, Cleveland, Rams, and Chicago.
And if the Bears weren’t so pathetic they would have beaten the Packers too….
by dsludo on Oct 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
I guess we’ll just give up then. Thanks for saving us the time and effort of watching and caring.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 26, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Begone.
We’ll see what you’re saying after the Packers beat Minnesota next week.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about the quality of Green Bay's opponents
Three of the sorriest franchises in 2009 are on that list. Unfortunately, they’re not the only sorry franchises this year (Oakland, Tennessee, Kansas City, Washington, Buffalo, and Jacksonville all come to mind).
The Bears are a huge mystery to me. No way do I think they’re as bad as the 35-point loss to Cincinnati suggests. However, I do believe that Cincy has a good team, especially with a healthy Carson Palmer and a motivated Cedric Benson. There’s no shame in losing to Cincy, at least this season. They’re a solid team.
Then again, the Vikings have beat up on the very same Browns, Rams, and Lions this year, and their wins against Baltimore and San Francisco required some serious luck (along with some excellent execution by Viking players). So it’s not like Minny’s without their own cupcake schedule (Pittsburgh excluded).
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by Mitchell_M on Oct 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, to go on with what you just said,
Baltimore and San Francisco do not appear to be the world-beaters everyone was saying they would be this year.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think both teams have records of 3-3 this year. Middle of the pack, certainly not the force that Pittsburgh is. I was surprised by Cincinnati in Week 2, but I think they’re now showing they can beat teams and are better than most people expect.
I think it will be Pittsburgh vs. Cincinnati for the title in that division.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 26, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the assessment of Baltimore
Their offense is certainly more potent than years past, but I attribute that more to the versatility of Ray Rice than anything else. Sure, people were surprised that Flacco was airing it out; not because they didn’t think he could, but because they thought he wouldn’t.
Baltimore simply doesn’t have the personnel to maintain a high-octane offense. Derrick Mason aside, their skill position players are all mediocre, and their line is built for the power running scheme that the Ravens have employed for years.
The 49ers really ought to be better than their record suggests, but when Shaun Hill is your starter and Alex Smith is pushing to take his job, you have a lower ceiling than most other teams. Frank Gore missing time didn’t help matters, either.
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by Mitchell_M on Oct 26, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
49ers
could be poised for a resurgence. If they stick with Smith who seems more able to get the ball out to the Wideouts. The addition of Crabtree and a now healthy Gore should really give this offense a boost. I’d be very cautious about that team now.
by TrevorR on Oct 26, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the sorriest team of all
Your Tampa Bay Buccaneers, our Week 9 opponent.
by ktenreb on Oct 26, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, good catch
I told you there were a lot this year.
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by Mitchell_M on Oct 26, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you mention the Panthers?
They are horrible. They have a great pair of running backs and a great WR in Steve Smith but they are beyond repair at QB. Delhomme is historically bad so far this year and they have no depth there. They are hopeless this year. Be lucky to get to 4 wins
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Oct 26, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right.
Delhomme is having what for him is, statistically, his worst year as a pro quarterback.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 26, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That game worries me just a little bit
I mean, at some point Tampa has to win a game and we always have struggled to win in Tampa. The good news is that it won’t be as hot as when we visited Tampa last year and had trouble handling the heat.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Oct 26, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We struggled mightely when Warren Sapp was playing for them
Oh, the good ol’ NFC Central.
by Danwood on Oct 26, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game that really sticks with me
is the game we went down there 3-0. I think Shelton Quarles returned a pick ninety nine yards, and we lost 14-10.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree
If you’ve had the misfortune of watching a Bucs game this year, you would agree with me that they are in no danger of winning a game any time soon. They are just downright awful.
by ktenreb on Oct 27, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
/farmed
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by Bush League All Star on Oct 26, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true...BUT
The Browns put up 14 on the Steelers, 20 on the Bengals, and 20 on the Vikings so they have put up some points throughout the season so it was nice to see out D come out strong against a clearly inferior product.
by TrevorR on Oct 26, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same Cleveland team that was beating you guys at half time right….?
Go away troll.
by packallday555 on Oct 26, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems fitting
I’ve never seen you contribute anything worthwhile.
by Charlie Kelly on Oct 27, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definition of worthwhile?
Just because I’m not on my knees worshipping AR as my new savior? Please.
by dsludo on Oct 27, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worthwhile is...
a comment where you can put aside you bias against the management and just give some analysis. WE will listen if you can say anything without trying to turn it on TT or talking about Favre.
by TrevorR on Oct 27, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell are you talking about?
I have never said anything about Ted Thompson. Other than he’s a douche, but thats neither here nor there.
I think you got me mixed up with someone else.
by dsludo on Oct 27, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for proving my point dsludo
by Charlie Kelly on Oct 28, 2009 6:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to say!
Confirmation!!!
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by Bush League All Star on Oct 28, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he’s a douche
What does that have to do with the claim that all i ever do is talk about him. show me just 1 post that I’ve said anything else about ted thompson
by dsludo on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive ends
are we down to 3? If so, any word on action to be taken? with finley around, it wasn’t so bad, because he was just as good as nelson, and better than swain, but now?
by oldresorter on Oct 26, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can only imagine
that they’ll promote someone from the practice squad.
No matter what direction they decide to take, they are surprisingly vulnerable at the skill positions. If teams Jennings, Driver, and Jones are an outstanding trio, and Donald Lee is a good TE, and Brandon Jackson will surely help in the passing game. But after those five players, there is a significant void.
Nelson and Finley on the sidelines seems like a negligible loss to the outside, since they’re our #3b WR and #2 TE. But it takes a big chunk out of the offense’s versatility and will force them to gulp rely on the run game.
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by Mitchell_M on Oct 26, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not unusual
This isn’t uncommon to havea drop off on the bench. If they were that good, they would have earned a spot as a starter don’t ya think. Most guys don’t look great until they get a chance and then they step up.
by TrevorR on Oct 26, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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