From the Outside Looking In
First of all, I'm not picking a fight or trying to argue my point or anything of the sort. I just would like some insight from the real Packer fans, not the "Love 'em when they win" fans. I've always been a Favre fan because I'm from Mississippi and we have always been proud of the players that came from here i.e. Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, Archie Manning and many others. What I don't understand from my view point, which is different from yours, is how some Packer fans can hate Brett Favre. I'm a huge Saints fan from way back and when the Saints traded Archie, it killed my soul, but I never hated him but I didn't like the Coach, Bum Phillips and the front office, for trading him. Even though in Archie's case, he was washed up and they probably made the right decision. Even though we didn't win before or after the trade. But in Brett's case, it's obvious that he still had some gas in the tank. Maybe even MVP gas in the tank. Why is there not more said about a bad dicision by the coach and the front office. Brett wanted to play and they wanted to move on, that's what it looked like from here. Thank y'all in advance for treating an outsider with kindness.
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Well it really comes down to a couple things for me at least
1. Rodgers has turned out to be a very solid QB, he was in a contract year when favre tried to comeback, and I highly doubt he would have signed again with the team had we let favre return. While it turns out Favre still had at least a couple years left, it sure didn’t seem that way when a late 30’s qb who’d been mulling retirement for years wanted to make a comeback.
but that’s not why I hate Favre.
2. He came back and played for the Vikings this year, in a move born purely from spite to beat the packers. That is definitely a sin in my eyes. Irregardless of how biased that may seem, to come back to your teams biggest rival purely for the sake of sticking it to your old team, your old coach, your old gm. That’s just morally wrong.
Let Favre have his day, h deserves it. I won’t deny he did great things for us. But imagine if archie had gone to a major rival, and said along the way that he was doing it simply to spite your team.
How would you feel then?
The time for reckoning has come, and we already have the answer
by Vreeland2 on Nov 25, 2009 10:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
But, I don’t remember hearing Favre say that he was doing it for spite. When did he say that? And we have had Saints players go to rival teams: Bobby Hebert, Joe Horn and Morton Anderson all went to the Falcons. If the Packer’s were better off with Rogers then who are they to say “We don’t want you, AND we don’t want anyone else to have you, either”? That’s sort of weird to me. If Brett wants to play and the Packers want Rogers then is he to just go home? He should be able to play, if he is of starter quality, and two years later, he is of starter quality.
This is OUR year!! Yea, I said it. Who Dat!!!
by Big and Easy on Nov 25, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Favre Shenanigans
He wanted to go to the vikes but the packers obviously didnt want that so they traded him as far away as they could get him for as much value as they could.
And him wanting to go there says to me he did want to “Stick it” to the packers which is just wrong. we in Wi have watched him do monumental things for years but he has also made incredibly bonehead plays hence the expression, “he favred”
I ’ll be waiting for the next one
maybe it will come against the Saints in a playoff game like the last huge one in the 07 NFC championship.
I will be laughing my A$$ off as the vikings hopes go down the drain yet again…….
then he can start his im retiring crap all over again!
GO PACK GO!
by Steely Dan on Nov 25, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, you've had players go to rival teams
but were they the best and most beloved players in your franchise history going?
and he never said it, but it’s quite clear in the way everything has gone down.
The time for reckoning has come, and we already have the answer
by Vreeland2 on Nov 25, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you even READ his post?
Archie Manning is about as “best and beloved” as it gets in NO!
by puddnhead on Nov 25, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but...
… the separation here was about as ugly as it gets. Not a good comparison IMO.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 25, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also outside looking in
It’s human nature to want to get back at someone. In Brett’s case that is TT.
However, it is also a different story to come back and only do it for 2 games as is alleged in the Packer fans eyes. Heck those games have past and you can tell the guy is legitimately still having a blast. He is enjoying playing each and every week and to me that says it all.
In other words, IMO, it wasn’t for the money and it wasn’t for the “revenge” (although that might be an added benefit). It was because he literally still has the desire in his heart to compete and he saw a chance with a team he considered legitimate. If that team had been the Colts, Cowboys, Steelers, Pats, etc he probably would have done the same thing and played if they had asked.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 25, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he said it on ESPN
when he was a Jet.
that he wanted to play to get back at Ted Thompson.
by Acme on Nov 26, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Favre
There’s been plenty said about the coaching and front office decisions around Wi.
for years we’ve been dealing with the Favre’s retiring thing and i guess it just got old for the packers organization. they were being foward looking in drafting Rodgers and unfortunately didnt draft an O line to protect him better. but he still has better #’s than favre in his first 2 seasons
I dont hate Favre I HATE THE VIKINGS! anyone in purple must go down!
any self respecting Packer fan would probably say the same thing.
by Steely Dan on Nov 25, 2009 10:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't begrudge him his success in MN. I just can't abide the way he went about it.
Yes, he’s playing very well, and good for him. He lost a lot of my respect after expecting that the Packers would be waiting with open arms in June/July, even after declaring he was done in March and again before the April draft. I don’t like the way he played the fans off the team, as though we would choose sides and sway Ted Thompson one way or another. I don’t think the team was perfect, either, but his “real Packer fans understand” comments left a bad taste in my mouth. His decision to play on the Vikings and diss the 1996 Packers doesn’t help, either.
Hindsight being 20/20, I don’t think Favre puts up the same MVP-like numbers behind the Packers 2009 offensive line, and I do think that Rodgers would be lighting up the league on another team, had we taken Favre back last year. Rodgers is an excellent QB and the leader of our team for the foreseeable future, and I think both GBP and MN are better off for Favre having moved on.
His being a Viking is inexcusable, but I still like Darren Sharper, so that’s not the only thing. I’ll bury the hatchet when/if he retires as a Packer and goes to Canton, but his off-the-field actions, along with the retirement waffling since 2005, have soured me on him as a person.
by hollycrat on Nov 25, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very well said.
This is enough of other team’s fans questioning us about #4.
I’m not picking a fight or trying to argue my point or anything of the sort
Your responses beg to differ. Take the Favre convo to the Vikings site. If you want the reasons for Packer’s fans feelings, read through the archives. It will take you all weekend.
See you in the playoffs, that’s right I said it!
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Nov 25, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Look back through the archives
This has been beaten to death more times than you can possibly imagine. If all you want is our point of view then you can find it there.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Nov 25, 2009 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Big and Easy
There is a lot that has been & is still being said about this amongst WI residents & Packer fans. Only thing is, like others have pointed out, since it all happened over a year ago, most of it has been beaten to death.
Another reason to go back & read stuff from archives, as verno329 suggests, is because you will get a more representative “sample” than you will reading anything new posted to this fanpost. Right now, at this point, most if not all the fans who think like you have been chased away from sites like this. So you don’t get a real feel for what’s really going on in Wisconsin, in daily “conversation at the water cooler.” Believe it or not, the real “schism” this year & last is in Wisconsin, not Minnesota.
by puddnhead on Nov 25, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Chased away
Right now, at this point, most if not all the fans who think like you have been chased away from sites like this.
I admit I’ve chased off some trolls. But Favre fans, Jarlsberg comes to mind, that come and write great comments critical of the decision to trade Favre have gotten a fair discussion. He usually is outnumbered 4 to 1 in the comments, and rarely has anyone commented in his defense. I haven’t seen or met a big wave of Favre supporters; I’ve only read a couple.
by Brandon on Nov 25, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
I don’t think we push away any of the Favre supporters but we definitely push away some idiots who only come on here after we lose to tell us that we’re “bad”.
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Secret" Childress meetings in 08 anyone?
Please…..do not presume to lecture Packer fans about how we should or should not give #4 a pass (no pun intended ;-) ).
His intention was to play for the Vikings all along whether you choose to believe it or not. Evidenced by the shady crap that was going on in early 08 when “golden boy” was dealing under the table (illegally) to wedge his way onto a hated rival’s team. Why do you think TT put that trade provision in when they tossed him to the Jets?
Anyone who says he didn’t want to play for the Vikings for spite is either blind or worse, stupid.
I absolutely loved Brett as a Packer. I will never forget some of the games I watched where he was masterful. I also won’t forget the games where he literally threw it away. However, he plays for another team now. And one that is hated by just about anyone east of the Mississippi and north of the Illinois state line. So, by proxy, wearing purple means you’re someone to be rivaled regardless of past achievements.
We’re Packer fans and he’s a Viking. How is it so hard to understand the negativity towards him?
by pvilleWIcheezhed on Nov 25, 2009 12:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Most Packer fans just have no respect for his latest decision making
Some people have that feeling that when TT was hired in 2005, he sought to get rid of Favre all along, especially after drafting Aaron Rodgers. That’s not true. We were lucky to get Rodgers, and couldn’t pass up. TT certainly didn’t trade Favre after his disastrous 29 interception season or his mediocre 2006 season. Favre chose to retire in March of 08’. It came as a shock to all of us, most couldn’t believe it. For the next 4 weeks, we still kept calling Favre to make sure he was positive he was staying retired. If we sought to get rid of him all along, why did we keep calling him? He kept insisting he was done, so shortly before the draft, we gave the keys to Rodgers, who was in his contract year. Suddenly, before training camp, Favre wants in again. Well, it was a choice: Favre for a year or 2 or Rodgers for a decade? You make the decision. The team already moved forward. So we traded Favre. I was not bitter over that. I simply said, “Well, he wants to play, so let him play. It just can’t happen in Green Bay.”
So Favre plays in NY for the 08’ season, then retires afterward. Again, we all think he’s done. He kept insisting he’s retired to Head Coach Rex Ryan, so the Jets gave up. Then, again, shortly before training camp, out of all 32 teams, he chooses the Minnesota Vikings, a huge rival of ours. He wasn’t traded there, he chose to go there. That was a huge slap in our faces and the feeling towards Favre became bitter.
Your love for Archie Manning cannot possibly be compared to what our love for Brett Favre was. Favre took our terrible franchise of the 80s and helped turned it into a winning organization. He was also very active in the local community and charities. He was not a stranger in public and was viewed as a hero. He was also in Green Bay for 16 beloved seasons, a very long time.
Long story short, our feelings for Favre is virtually the same for a couple getting divorced. A lot of years of love all flushed down the drain. Hi comments on us true fans accepting it and him crowning the 09’ Vikings as the best team he was ever on definately just made things a LOT worse. It will take several years after he retires for him to be loved here again. We are all very thankful for what he did in the past, but are bitter towards his decisions and remarks as of lately.
by Jabooty on Nov 25, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well Said.
I like that explaination. Hate is a strong word, but if I understand right, it’s because he’s a Viking, not because he left Green Bay? That makes more sense. If Aaron Rogers had left instead of Brett, and played for the Vikings, would you have the same feelings against him?
This is OUR year!! Yea, I said it. Who Dat!!!
by Big and Easy on Nov 25, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it could be nearly any high profile Packer player...
The player could be nameless. It was the way it went down. I would feel the same way as you suggested. The only difference here was that it was BF—a national media figure—and not someone with less notoriety. It gets pumped up more.
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by Bush League All Star on Nov 25, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing that absolutely should be pointed out ...
This season is an extreme anomaly for Favre. 21 TDs against only 3 picks – had NEVER done that in his entire career, even during his MVP runs. Everybody seems to forget that even Viking fans, in there wildest dreams weren’t predicting this kind of performance – most were only ok with the deal because Favre was an improvement over Tavaris Jackson.
Again, there is a big difference between “hating” Favre and agreeing with management’s decision to let him go. I hold no personal animus against the man, although I will boo him because he’s the QB of my most hated team (I would boo Rodgers as well, just I booed every other Viking QB in history). But I don’t think you can make a rational case that 1 year of Favre > a decade of Rodgers. If the Vikings win a Super Bowl based on Favre’s performance, then maybe we can talk – but as I have said repeatedly, Favre’s playoff failures in the past decade were a big part of the reason I was OK with letting him go.
by jglowack on Nov 26, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Aaron Rodgers would have went to Minnesota, I think our feelings wouldn’t be on him, but upper management instead. I personally would understand him in going to Minnesota. If the coaches all told me, “Hey, this is you team now, so lead them to victory.” Then 2 months later, “Oh, sorry, Brett decided to come back, so even though you’re ready, we want to play him this year.” Yeah, for sure I’d want out after 4 years of that drama. I’d want revenge on a team that kissed one QB’s butt only to basically disrespect me. Rodgers surely would want to show us what he is capable of, and we’d be paying for it for the next decade.
What most people don’t realize is Aaron Rodgers had a trade clause in his old contract. He surely would have been gone. Why we wouldn’t have the same feelings towards him going to the enemy as opposed to someone like Favre is because Favre had that relationship with the fans. He was our long time icon. Rodgers still has a ways to go yet. There were many ex-Packers that went to Minesota. It really didn’t matter to most of us too much because they were like any other ordinary player. Favre was everything to us, the community, and the state of Wisconsin.
No, most of us don’t hate Favre as a person. We hate the decisions he made the past 3-4 years and the team he plays for. Since he plays for the Minesota Vikings, a team that happens to be our enemy, he is now our enemy.
by Jabooty on Nov 26, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the coaches all told me, "Hey, this is you team now, so lead them to victory." Then 2 months later, "Oh, sorry, Brett decided to come back, so even though you’re ready, we want to play him this year." Yeah, for sure I’d want out after 4 years of that drama. I’d want revenge on a team that kissed one QB’s butt only to basically disrespect me. Rodgers surely would want to show us what he is capable of, and we’d be paying for it for the next decade.
This is why I liked what the management decided too do. It’s like some people don’t feel it was important for our management to be loyal just because of who Favre is. I’m not sure about other people on here but growing up I was always taught to honor my commitments, and that’s what our organization did with Rodgers.
by packallday555 on Nov 27, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Archie diss the fan base and the team for not bending to his almighty will?
No question here
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
by blackoutsox on Nov 25, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Archie never had any "Almighty Will"
but that’s funny. Pardon the pun, but no Saint before now had anything “Almighty”.
This is OUR year!! Yea, I said it. Who Dat!!!
by Big and Easy on Nov 25, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haha thanks
Ill most certainly be cheering for the Saints when they play the queens
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
by blackoutsox on Nov 25, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My 2 cents worth
I believe when TT was hired he had his own way of running things. Favre was used to having his own way in GB. When Rodgers was drafted, not signing Moss and getting veterine help to surround him for an Elway ride into the sunset. This was a Rodgers team of the future not a Favre team to make a run at a SB. Favre saw the one QB away from a run Vikes and felt he had something left to contribute. Favre wanted out but TT blocked this and that pissed off Favre. So a stint as a Jet and a retirement later he got his way. I think he betrayed his team, his organation and especially his fans for his own gain and revenge. So if we don’t beat Favre and his team in the playoffs, I hope your Saints beat the crap out of them so we can see that deer in the head lights look on his face.
by cheddarhead on Nov 25, 2009 10:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Archie Manning compared to Brett Favre
I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. There just is no great comparison. Roger Clemens screwing over the Red Sox, go read Bill Simmons’s archives about that saga, is the closest thing I can come up to. I read a Cowboy fan over at Blogging The Boys compare it to a hypothetical: it would be like Aikman coming out of retirement earlier this decade to play for the Eagles. Walking away from the team (retiring) is the key. He didn’t show a sincere interest in returning to play until training camp was about to start, and he’s done it in the past two seasons. It will be interesting to see the reaction in Minnesota next year when he waffles all offseason while every other player on their roster is busting their butt all spring and summer. And you could see how thrilled he was to stick it to his old team as he was beating them in Lambeau. You cannot convince Favre that there is no I in team.
At the same time, it’s great to see Favre doing so well with the Vikings. To play like he is playing at age 40 is just incredible. I knew he could keep playing like this, and that’s why I was so disappointed when he retired after his great 2007 season. He would have won an MVP in 2007 if it wasn’t for Brady’s remarkable 50+ TD season. That said, I wish the Vikings would lose out the rest of the season (I know it’s not going to happen, it’s just a wish), Favre starts throwing about 3 INTs/game, and the Packers can come from behind and win the division. We’re all Packer fans and in the end it’s about coming in ahead of the Vikings in the standings.
by Brandon on Nov 25, 2009 11:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
First, I'll just repost what I said in puddnhead's thread ...
“One thing Favre clearly has developed is a very strong pocket presence , but it wasn’t always that way. These things take a few years – as I previously mentioned, Favre was terrible his second year as a starter. Rodgers has already shown improvement this year in recognizing when to throw the ball away – the amount of time that has elapsed before his average sack has been declining for weeks. I do want to point this out again – I can’t figure out why you insist on coming here to rag on Rodgers. Favre has clearly worked out for you guys, and the vast majority of Packer fans (Jarlsberg excepted) are now perfectly fine with trading one more year of Favre for a decade of Rodgers. I’ll admit, I was extremely skeptical that Favre could be successful this year. If you haven’t been a Packer fan, you probably don’t get it, but most of us have spent the last decade quietly preparing ourselves all year long for the inevitable Favre playoff collapse. It happened in 01 (Rams), 02 (Falcons), 03 (Eagles), 04 (your Vikings), and 07 (Giants) – all seasons that ended with poor playoff performances from Brett. Would the Packers have won some of those games with another QB – probably not, but who knows? If I was a Viking fan, I’m sure I would be giddy, too. Enjoy it, but don’t say I didn’t warn you.”
The Packer’s playoff record for the last decade has basically been a catalog of Favre collapses. I don’t claim to speak for all Packer fans, but I’ll just say this: while the rest of league love watching Favre “have fun out there” it wasn’t as fun for me, trying all year to convince myself that this year would be different, that this year Favre would recognize his limitations, that this year would be different. In ‘07, watching our hopes for a Super Bowl collapse on another Favre pick, I was done. I’ll admit, its even harder watching Favre this year and fearing that he may have actually figured it all out, but for another team. There was a period I hated him simply for how he affected team morale going into the ‘08 season – I think a a less mentally tough QB than Rodgers might have been permanently scarred by the reaction of the fanbase. But as this point, I don’t even understand the other perspective. No matter how good Favre is, locking up a franchise QB for a decade is far more valuable than hanging on to an aging HOFer, even if he ahs a bit left in the tank.
by jglowack on Nov 26, 2009 8:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
All sounds good BUT,
(your Vikings),
If I was a Viking fan, I’m sure I would be giddy, too.
I can’t figure out why you insist on coming here to rag on Rodgers.
I’m no Viking fan and I have not ragged on Rogers. Saints all the way here. I pull for my team and not against yours or any other team.
This is OUR year!! Yea, I said it. Who Dat!!!
by Big and Easy on Nov 28, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly you do not understand
that you ragged on Rodgers by making the heavy implication in the article that it was a mistake to let Brett Favre go. Rdgers has clearly played at a higher level than Favre over the past 2 years. Brett Favre is not a true MVP candidate. It is a two horse race between Manning and Brees, I’m surprised that you don’t agree seeing as how you’re a Saints fan. I’d also like to add that I don’t understand the timing of your post. There were about 30 better times that you could’ve put this crap up. It’s about time that we stopped hearing about Favre I think. Why can’t Packers fans be allowed to bask in the fact that we have a playoff team? You have to understand that we Packer fans are in no way interested in hearing about how well Minnesota is doing after reeling off three straight wins. Also, if A.P. is out tomorrow as the rumors say then you might find out EXACTLY why Favre is not an MVP candidate.
by Donald Driver on Nov 29, 2009 2:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
C.T.
Aint no slouch in the running game,if A.P. cant play dont expect the running game slow down but this could be a Trap game for the Vikes.I didnt see anywhere Big ragged on Rogers at all,Brees has picked up right where he left off last year and dont even see a race for MVP imo.
You cant expect a Fan from outside our Divison to read the countless posts About Favre or Rodgers.or to understand the feelings.
These questions are going to be asked until Favre Really retires and gets inducted,get used to it.
If your Team continues its current play you got a Shot at the Wild Card,hopefully the injury bug stays away.GL
by speedlod on Nov 29, 2009 3:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope
He doesn’t win MVP and it’s not because of my dislike towards him. He is having a great year thus far and I’ll be the first one too admit it, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why.
The main reason is Adrian Peterson. The guy commands 8 guys in the box nearly every play. Every team this year who has played the Vikings has game planned to stop AP, and then try to handle Favre. And this is because if you don’t gameplan to stop AP he will make you pay for it every single play. With Favre you at least have the chance of him making a bad decision or throw.
And with 8 guys in the box, that opens pretty much the entire field for the passing game. Now I’m not saying any old slouch can make all these throws because just last year Jackson couldn’t. But when teams are only dropping 5 or 6 guys back into coverage and the o-line is giving Favre 5-6 seconds to pass pretty consistently, it’s not out of the question too think he is going to look pretty darn good.
And the last thing is the majority of his throws have been 7 yards or less this year. It’s not like the Vikings are winning soley because of him and the passing game, like the Colts are with Manning, and the Saints sometimes are with Brees.
Again, I’m by no means trying to discredit the season Favre has had this year. I just think if you put look at the support Favre has compared to the support Manning and Brees have, there is no question he has a lot more help around him.
by packallday555 on Nov 29, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if it was unclear ...
The quoted portion was reposted from another thread started by puddnhead – a Vikings fan who frequently pushes the “Packers screwed up by letting Favre go card.” I didn’t want to have to rewrite it all again.
by jglowack on Nov 29, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have NEVER said that “the Packers screwed up by letting Favre go.” Not ONE time. EVER.
The closest I have ever come to that — which is not very close at ALL — is that I have said that, when the Packers traded Favre and decided to keep Rodgers, as they should have — that the Packers really really botched the trade in double crossing Favre by telling him he was going to Bucs but then trading him to Jets, and that htis has left a stain on the organization that can only be cleansed by flushing TT.
by puddnhead on Nov 30, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Truth
When training camp hits we already know Favre will waffle and throw passes to High Schoolers that aint nothing new.A month before the Draft, the will He,wont He starts up,again nothing new again.You guys got A great Q.B. in the making with Rodgers,just he is taking a beating right now and that has got to stop.Favre wouldnt have lasted a third of the way thru the Season with that O-line,cant say I blamed him wanting to retire or seek a better O-line.
No one can say excactly what was going thru Favres mind that last Season nor the Front Offices mind,except neither was going to give in to the other.I think like a few others that posted here if they would have let Favre comeback you would have lost Rogers.3 years ago I posted on DN that the Rogers kid looked damn good in clean up games,and to tell ya truth if it was me ,I would rather have Rodgers then Favre right now or Stafford atm.
Other notes,sorry to hear you guys lost Kampman for the year dont know what they was thinking trying put him into 3-4 .Isnt he up for FA in 2010 or do you think you guys will not sign him due to knee OP.Hate to see you guys lose him that way,I think he still has 2 – 3 years left in the tank.And where did you guys pick up 52 seems like a diamond in the rough there.
by speedlod on Nov 29, 2009 12:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
To answer some questions
Kampman is a FA after this year but a lot of us seem to think he will be franchised tagged and probably traded away. But that is just us speculating.
Yes, Clay Matthews looks like he is going to be an absolute stud in this league and I’m damn glad we traded up to get him.
by packallday555 on Nov 29, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kampman
With that knee op. this year doest make sense throw the Tag on him,he will have to rehab and prove he can still play before a Team will even think about it.
by speedlod on Nov 30, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately, this is true
that injury way decreases his value, maybe we could get a 3rd? probably not a starting caliber tackle or 1st rounder anymore
really unfortunate especially the Allen trade set a precedent for a high value on good DE’s
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
by blackoutsox on Nov 30, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand it all better
Having to pick between two good quarterbacks is a good problem to have. Drafting Rogers when they did probably started this domino effect, but who knew that Favre would play as long as he has. And who knew that he would get hot at the end of his career like he has. The Packers are better off with Rogers and Favre is better off with the Vikings. And when he retires for good, most people will remember him as a Packer, and a great one.
This is OUR year!! Yea, I said it. Who Dat!!!
by Big and Easy on Nov 29, 2009 8:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
..but who knew that Favre would play as long as he has. And who knew that he would get hot at the end of his career like he has.
Exactly, and this is what made our front office’s decision such a difficult one. When we had drafted Rodgers, it was thought that Favre would likely retire within the next 2-3 years. Obviously that didn’t end up being the case, and we all saw what a big fiasco resulted because of it.
The Packers are better off with Rogers and Favre is better off with the Vikings.
I don’t know about the rest of you guys but I think this would be a good note to end all the Favre/Rodgers deabtes.
by packallday555 on Nov 29, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you guys
Are going to hear this for awhile,someone is always going to bring it up,somehow,someway in every other post.Just tell everyone not to rise to the bait,because in the weeks to come its going to get brought up.Theres Trolls on every blog,and if you guys just dont get heated up and ignore them this should go away.GL with the playoff run and hope the injuries stay away.
by speedlod on Nov 30, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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