Brief Recap: Green Bay Packers Defeat Lions 34-12
by Brandon on Nov 26, 2009 3:20 PM CST
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PrintThe game started out rocky: WR Jordy Nelson fumbled the opening kickoff, and QB Matthew Stafford threw a TD pass to WR Charles Johnson for a quick 7-0 lead.
The rest of the game belonged to the Packers. Stafford attempted 39 passes after his TD pass, but he didn't throw another one (to his own team). He did throw 4 INTs, including a late pick 6 to CB Charles Woodson. Johnson was targeted on 10 more pass attempts, but only had 1 more receptions. Overall, Stafford finished with a 30.5 QB rating and a terrible 4.6 yards/pass attempt. Johnson was slowed by the injuries that kept him out of practice all week, but he also had Woodson following him around for the entire game. Woodson finished the game with 7 tackles, 1 sack, 4 pass defenses, and 2 INTs (including the one he returned for a TD). I don't know if he really wanted whatever that turkey trophy is, FOX decided WR Donald Driver was the player of the game instead, but Woodson deserved. Just an outstanding game by the defense, which only allowed 272 yards of offense, grabbed those 4 INTs, and held Lion backs to only 3.2 yards/carry.
The defense was great, but the offense was very good in it's own right. As I mentioned above, Driver was the player of the game with 142 yards and 1 TD. The offensive line did a great job in pass protection, allowing only 1 sack by LB Julian Peterson after the Lions coverage shut down a 4th down play and QB Aaron Rodgers was trying to scramble. The only negative was that they only managed 3.0 yards per carry, but the Lions seemed to determine to stop the run by keeping their safeties up. Which helped to open up the big plays down the middle to Driver.
The big negative, and the factor that kept the game close in the 1st half, was the lousy Packer special teams. Nelson fumbled the opening kickoff, multiple penalties pushed the Packers back even further on kick returns, and K Mason Crosby missed a 43 yard FG attempt.
Overall a dominant victory to improve the Packers record to 7-4, and Mike McCarthy's record against the Lions to 8-0.
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Charles Woodson rules !
We should now start calling him Sir Charles. If not for Sir Charles, this game might have gone the other way.
The offense: They do rack up huge numbers passing (342) but only 80 rushing.
Rodgers was only sacked once, however, this was the Lions, they are not very good at pressureing the QB. It’s probably a combination of the offensive line improving and the Lions being bad.
Some times, like that huge 68 yds pass to Driver, Rodgers had for ever to throw, if he didn’t make a play on that one, he should have been benched.
The playcall on 4th&2 was beyond horrible ! going from shotgun formation. that sets up for slow development, when you the ball in the air really quick. What happened on the pass protection we’ll not know for sure, is it Clifton just being confused, or is it Rodgers not makeing good enough pre-snap reads and calling the wrong protection ?
Either way, this one is another example of MMs bad playcalling.
Later, he had another blooper, that cost them 2 points, an off-tackle run is high risk it takes too long to develop, it’s a running situation, so a play-action might work well, especially vs the Lions.
Penalties, 7 for 57 yds, not very good, but it’s not suicidal either. The one that really stands out, was that block-in-back by Bigby (anounced on #33 but it was Bigby) that was just a bone head play, that shows the lack of diciplin by the coaching staff.
There is an ugly side to this win, again, at the end of the game, the offence failed to move the ball and run out the clock, conservative play calling, sloppy execution, both parts of this, but it has to get better, it will end up costing vs a better team.
The win was not secured until Sir Charles had his pick six.
On the other side, even though his stats were horrible, Matt Stafford is a very impressive young QB, he will give us a lot of headaces in the future.
Yeah, Charles Woodson does rule
Remember who acquired him.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Later, he had another blooper, that cost them 2 points, an off-tackle run is high risk it takes too long to develop, it’s a running situation, so a play-action might work well, especially vs the Lions.
What the hell was MM thinking? We were hardly able to get the ball out of our own endzone on a dive, so why MM would think an off tackle run would work is beyond me. I know it wasn’t a big deal cause their offense did virtually nothing on our defense, but he can’t make those stupid decisions against better teams.
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Remember who acquired him.
Yes, I have not said all of TTs moves has been bad, he’s got a lot of good players to the Packers. But he also squeezed both good and beyond great players out of the team.
Also, I do remember what Sir Charles said about why he signed chose to sign with the Packers… if you don’t remember, it was because he wanted to play with Brett Favre, he considered the Packers to be the best shot at winning something because of Favre. Which was also one of the reasons Reggie White once signed with the Packers ( along with a lot of money…) Reggie White saw the potential the team had with Favre, and he was right.
So, should Jennings sign with Minnesota now?
Seriously, if that’s how the argument about Green Bay signing Woodson is based, then maybe he or one of our star offensive players should sign with Minnesota now because, in your view, it would be their best shot at winning something.
But I don’t see them leaving anytime soon.
Please go join Daily Norseman so you can talk about this with your fellow Vikings fans.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
Jennings ...
no, of course not, I’m just stating what I read in an interview with Sir Charles after his signing.
Haha regardless
Woodson was signed by TT. And most the rest of our defense was acquired by TT, and a lot of our offense as well. He has been good in pretty much all areas besides our o-line. He deserves a shot to find us some formidable T’s, and should also fire our special teams coordinator.
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
aaaaannnnnnddddd there it is!
Can’t go a week without bringing him up again. I was impressed he wasn’t mentioned in your first comment but I knew you’d come through in the end.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
He should list his religious views on his profile.
They could be described in one word: Favreism.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair
I brought Ted Thompson up.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Who
is this Favre you keep posting about?
We'll never forget you, Brent Farve.
by LowlyPackerFan on Nov 26, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't remember it having anything to do with him
If I remember right very few teams offered him a deal as they thought he was washed up and green bay was willing to take that risk
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 26, 2009 10:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is Jarlsberg we're talking about.
Favre is the reason for everything.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
No one else wanted him
He signed here cause no one else wanted to take a chance on him. The consensus in the league is that he was done and not worth the kind of money he wanted. I think it was just the Bucs that were interested in him (besides us). So yeah between them and us he felt we had the best chance. White’s signing was NOT about Favre at all…give me a break. He was signed in 1993, the year after Favre first played. He wasn’t a pro bowler…he was basically a rookie who had an okay year. Reggie coming here was about money and opportunity. He bought Ron Wolf’s gravy, please don’t kid yourself into thinking those signing were about Favre. That is a joke. He was a part of the component for Woodson, but he was NOT a part of the Reggie signing whatsoever.
Not to defend Bratt Favre or anything like that, but
It is true.
Reggie specifically said that favre was a sizable factor in his decision.
He was impressed with favre finishing, and winning, the game against the Eagles after Reggie separated favre’s left shoulder in the first quarter.
He said that he thought that favre gave him s shot at a Super Bowl.
One has to wonder how much of a factor favre’s interceptions must have been in Reggie’s decision to return with the Panthers, rather than the Packers, hm?
The glass is more than half-full.
yep, nothing wrong with that too
we just dont like the Farve of late, not the one from the early years
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Right, because
Reggie White coming to the Pack in 1993 has any bearing on today. Seriously, just shut up and go root for the Vikings.
On a serious note, I am at a loss to explain the outright shittiness of the special teams (unless Jarlsberg wants to attribute that to the loss of Favre). Anyone have an explanation?
by jglowack on Nov 26, 2009 5:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Haha let’s just go with it being Favre fault :)..
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
It's plainly obvious
the special teams have less reason to hold with a guy they love at QB.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Yep
And I’m pretty sure he used to play special teams for us every once in a while right? Along with LT/RT and pretty much any spot on defense..
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
On a serious note, I am at a loss to explain the outright shittiness of the special teams (unless Jarlsberg wants to attribute that to the loss of Favre). Anyone have an explanation?
haha, of course I do contribute the bad spec.teams to the loss of Favre ! :-p
on a serious note, no, the bad special teams does not have anything to do with a former QB, it is one of the many things I blame on MM/TT and is on the list of reasons why I think they should find something else to do.
Mark Murphy needs to call Mike Holmgren before he signs elsewere!
Allow me to hazard a guess here
You want Holmgren to be handed the HC/GM dual role, which he failed at in Seattle; his success as head coach there only came after he was stripped of the GM responsibilities (and was achieved with players whom Ted Thompson played a large role in aquiring).
The glass is more than half-full.
Holmgren would clearly have the ability to turn back the clock and make Favre 10 years younger and bring him back to GB. Its just so clear
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Yeah
Well it’s been rumored that with Holmgren comes the first ever time machine so maybe we should do it :)…
by packallday555 on Nov 30, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Who did you guys pick in the other two games?
I have Dallas beating Oakland, and the N. Y. Giants beating Denver.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions
Dallas and Denver
Dallas is a no brainer and Denver because the Giants losing helps us in the wildcard.
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
Both of us are 2-0 so far
I’m assuming you picked Green Bay to beat Detroit, just as I did.
Green Bay Packers 34, Detroit Lions 12.
Dallas Cowboys 24, Oakland Raiders 7.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Somebody
should make a Giants-Broncos game thread. It’s an important game to the Packers and what else are people doing besides watching football.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Well, actually, I don't get that game.
I was just flipping through my Satellite TV channels, and Sci Fi Channel is apparently having a James Bond night.
“Tomorrow Never Dies” (my personal favorite) is on now, followed by Casino Royale.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't get it either :(
But I wouldn’t mind talking to people about it in a thread.
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
I just posted a thread, which I link to below.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Ask, and ye shall receive.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
I was over celebrating Thanksgiving with some family friends today.
When Woodson returned the interception for a touchdown in the fourth quarter today, I turned to the son of the hosts (he too is a Packers fan) and said, “As the Packers radio announcers would say, ‘There is your dagger!’”
The last time I visited them for Thanksgiving was the last time the Packers played on Thanksgiving in 2007, also a Packers win (37-26).
When was the last time the Packers beat the Lions like this on Thanksgiving?
Also, everyone burst out laughing during DD’s postgame interview: “Turkey, turkey and dressing!!!!”
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions
Charles Woodson
No. 2 in the league in INTs.
No. 2 in the league in forced fumbles.
No. 1 in the league among CBs in tackles.
No. 1 in the league among CBs in sacks.
What else can you ask? If he keeps it up, a DPOY is imminent.
Why do we bake cookies & cook bacon?
Amazing
I want to know where the fountain of youth Woodson and Driver took drinks out of is.
by packallday555 on Nov 26, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
MVP?!?!
Could he be in the consideration for MVP? I know its basically a QB award these days but seriously, is there anyone else out there dominating their position like he is right now?!!? I’d argue he’s the best player on this team and certainly OUR MVP and that is saying alot considering we have a QB like Rodgers out there!
I wouldn't go as far to say MVP.
Peyton Manning is far more valuable to his team. Defensive player of the year? He should definitely be the front runner, way ahead of Jared “I’m completely one dimensional” Allen.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 29, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Eh…don’t be THAT hard on Allen. I watch the Vikings every week and he’s a pretty darn solid DE. He does what they ask of him and that is disrupt plays.
I don’t think this season he is in the running for MVP right now though. The names I hear are Dumerville and Sharper actually. There are probably others but I think at this point Woodson has to be the front runner.
He's a solid DE at best but he's not worthy of all the praise he gets
He’s completely one dimensional in that he only has one move (Rush up field as hard and as fast as possible) and he’s worthless against the run. Also, he tends to pad his stats while playing mediocre tackles (Lang, Colledge) and then gets absolutely shut down by anyone decent or great (Joe Thomas) If you take out the Packer games where he was playing two complete sieves at tackle, I believe he has 5 sacks.
Now he does get lots of pressure and has a very good motor (I hate using that term but I can’t really think of anything else to say) but I just don’t buy the hype of him being the best or even near the top of the DEs in the league.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 30, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Those numbers
are absurd. Especially the #2 in forced fumbles number. What cornerback forces that many fumbles?
Ridiculous.
by Archibaldcrane on Nov 27, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Actually
He’s #3 (tied) for forced fumbles, behind Tillman and Shaun Phillips.
But he’s also tied for 2nd in defensive TDs!
by Archibaldcrane on Nov 27, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Sir Charles
I like the Sir Charles moniker. How do we boost this thing beyond Acme?
by 50 years and Counting on Nov 26, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply actions
It's not bad, but there's already a Sir Charles...
My vote is for Chucky Cheese
I also said something as I was heading to the friends' place that seemed eerily prophetic.
I said that on Thanksgiving games, the Lions always start out very quickly and take a lead, but then they almost always fade and the other team comes back on a scoring rampage to win.
It happened in 2007, and it in some respects happened today. Though that first score was not the fault of the defense.
"I still believe, in spite of everything, that people are truly good at heart."
-Anne Frank-
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 26, 2009 8:10 PM CST reply actions
We need a new kicker
and who is robertarthur?
See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.
-TAEG
Lets no forget Ryan Grant here
He was VERY effective today on the ground (61 yards on 20 attempts with a long a 15 yards) AND surprising in the air too (42 yards on 3 attempts with a long of 27!) Definitely deserves some credit for moving them down the field today. He’s been playing well the last few games.
3.0 YPC
I find it hard to call anyone gaining only 3 yards per “very effective.” However, he was better than he had been.
He got the yards when they needed it
That’s effective enough for me. Either way, 103 yards seems like pretty good production for me given McCarthy’s pass-happy playcalling. The fact that he actually managed to catch a few balls helps too.
Everyone In Huddle Afraid To Tell Aaron Rodgers About Turf Stuck In Teeth
The Onion highlights this Packer team’s achilles heel:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/everyone_in_huddle_afraid?utm_source=onion_rss_daily
"At times I'm emotional," --Ryan Braun, 7/7/09
by heybatterbatter on Nov 27, 2009 9:28 AM CST reply actions
T Williams
How about Tramon Williams? I thought he played big. You didn’t hear his name alot (until he got his pick). I watched him the entire game and I thought he stepped up his game big time. The Pack has been good against the run. Gives me a little hope when we face Ray Rice. I think he is a good RB. If we can contain Rice and Mason, I think we can get the W. I hope everyones Turkey day was good
Watch Williams against the Ravens
He was clearly better than the Lions WR Bryant Johnson, not exactly a high bar to clear, but it was still a great game for Williams. The Ravens will be a big game because Williams probably won’t cover their No. 1 WR Mason (Woodson will probably cover him all game), but the Ravens No. 2 and No. 3 WRs (Washington and Clayton) are better than what the Lions have behind Calvin Johnson. If Flacco has trouble getting the ball to Mason, then it will be key that Williams can shut them down and help stall the Ravens offense.
Boy I don’t know what they’re going to do to stop Rice as a receiver. Hopefully the Packers linebackers are up to covering him.
Boy I don’t know what they’re going to do to stop Rice as a receiver. Hopefully the Packers linebackers are up to covering him.
I’ve been thinking about this too and really have no idea. It seems like we would almost have to put a LB on him but I don’t think any of our guys could stick with him. And then I thought about bringing up our SS and remembered it was Bigby.. So I really don’t know what we’re going to do. But if we can figure out how to slow him down as a WR I like our chances because Woodson will probably blanket Mason.
by packallday555 on Nov 28, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Coverage...
I actually think Tramon will be on Mason. I think he’s capable enough to cover him and that would allow them to use Woodson in the way they LOVE which is shifting between CB and Safety allowing him to be a playmaker rather than JUST a corner.
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