Just had to share
by Robert Rence on Nov 6, 2009 8:12 PM CST
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I'm not too sure how many people here read Bill Simmons' column on ESPN, but I do. He's funny, and he normally seems like he has his head on straight. He's a much bigger Basketball guy than a Football guy, but he still cranks out columns giving the gambling lines on teams during the football season. For those of you who don't read him, here's what he had to say about the Pack vs Bucs game.
Packers (-9.5) over BUCS
Mayday! Mayday! The Josh Freeman 2009 White Flag has been thrown. By the way, Aaron Rodgers is this year's Great Game Against A Bad Team MVP. His stats have no correlation with his actual effectiveness. Even Al Bundy didn't hold his balls this long.
That last line killed me. If you're interested in more of his columns, I recommend looking up the Vengeance Scale. It should be required reading for just about everyone.
Finally, Go! Pack! Go!
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What? I picked them in my survivor pool this week. Don't look at me like that.
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Hey look...
… a Viking fan that feels the need to post something ripping Rodgers even after the season’s matchups between the two teams is over. AND he’s quoting an NBA reporter whose insight into the game of football is so complete that he’s blaming a quarterback when a team loses.
How utterly original in every way.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 6, 2009 11:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it's time to let it go?
And maybe enjoy something that is humorous? Geez!
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to suggest that it was time for Viking fans to let it go...
… but based on the recent article in DN, that appears unlikely. It’s puzzling to me why Viking fans would still be thinking about the Packers and Packer fans under the current circumstances, but whatever.
Besides, it just wasn’t that funny.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was funny....
But you just don;t get it….
Oh, and we never quite had the anger toward you guys like you had toward us and “BF” anyway. So for us, there isn’t really anything to “let go”.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then why are you here?
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't know I needed an invitiation
Geez pal! Give it a break.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you don't.
I just find it funny that a Viking fan hanging around here at this moment would feel he was in a position to suggest to anyone else that they “let it go.”
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn man… This all started because of a Al Bundy reference and for some reason you decided to lecture the author about how unoriginal he was. I tried to give it some light by saying “maybe you should try and enjoy something humorous” and “Let it go”. You then took it to places it didn’t need to go.
Once again, as for me being here, now or any other time, I come here every day and will probably continue to do so all year long. At least as long as you have a chance to make the playoffs, just like the Giants, Bears and Eagles sites. So please don’t question why I am here. I haven’t once said anything derogative toward the Packer team. In fact, if you look back I am sure you can see where I actually said Favre had to go and Rodgers was a good QB.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
And I’m telling you that you’re in no position to lecture.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tit for tat I guess
And in no position to lecture? Why because I am on APC? Again, I tried to lighten a situation up where you came off like a jacka$$. Nothing more, nothing less. I gave it right back to you as I always will when something is as sarcastic and provoking as your original comment. So, touche.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"And in no position to lecture? Why because I am on APC?"
Pretty much. You’re welcome, of course. It’s not my site and I often enjoy my interactions with Viking fans. But the fact that you’re hanging around a Packer site and telling Packer fans to let it go strikes me as pretty hypocritical.
“I tried to lighten a situation up where you came off like a jackass.”
Yeah, because “perhaps its time to let it go” is really light hearted and humorous. I’m sorry you were bothered by my comment or that you found it provoking; I guess that’s what I found the original post by Robert Rence to be (particularly since he’s the character who turned up over here a couple of weeks back to tell Packer fans to be polite to Viking fans in the ramp up to last week’s game). Was I sarcastic? You bet your ass. Do I regret that? Not in the slightest. I suspect that if I posted a link on DN to an article that took a shot at AP or Favre (even one that tried to be funny in the process) I’d get a negative reaction too, and I’d probably deserve it. I would hope that the Packer fans around here would be smart enough not take a holier than thou stance in the comment section that followed.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well then...
…I guess Mission Accomplished. You got what you dished out. and to expect any less is unrealistic. On APC, or not.
And yes what Robert said was funny and simply a light hearted moment. This is the same Robert that posted on both sites prior to the game “not to be a jacka$$”. And now, afterward you chose to be the jacka$$ in a light hearted moment.
And yes, many, many Packer fans have been our site berating the Favre move and what a mistake it would be etc. and all probably took it on the chin with comments, and Favre wins to follow. All of which were rightfully deserved.
To the contrary, I have done nothing but say positive things about Rodgers and even as such I even found the comment above funny. While you sir, are showing that you are a very sore loser and obviosuly cannot find humor in something so clever.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's true.
I generally don’t find jokes that include the word “balls” clever. Poor me.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your choice
Must be a sad place in that type of world…
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you could start a charity run for people like me?
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't say...
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 8, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a reader of Simmons
but he’s been slipping lately. He’s less likely to admit his mistakes, quibbles with his editors too much, and over the past year I get the sense that he’s starting to get really full of himself.
The biggest thing that gets me, though, is that he comes off as knowing everything about every NFL team, when he doesn’t. He knows a lot, but he only follows a few teams closely enough to really know what’s up with them. I think this is a byproduct of his working for ESPN; he gets most of his information from them, and they obviously focus on a few select teams and make generalizations about the rest.
For example, he dubs Rodgers the “Great Game Against A Bad Team MVP.” Does he know that Green Bay has only played two upper tier teams (Cincinnati, Minnesota) who each have outstanding pass defenses (at least Cincy did before Odom got hurt) and generally matched up well against Green Bay? Did David Carr get blamed for all the failure in Houston while he was there? Some, but most of it was on his lack of protection (surprise, surprise).
It’s not even his fault; he’s a basketball guy by trade, and nobody has enough time in the world to follow ALL the NBA teams and ALL the NFL teams enough to write effectively about them. It’s not humanly possible.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Nov 6, 2009 11:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Former reader of Simmons too
I’ll still read his NBA stuff because my love of MLB, NFL and NHL usually leaves the NBA lost in the shuffle and he is absolutely obsessed with the damn league. But his NFL stuff is darn near unreadable for all the examples and reasons you cited.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Nov 7, 2009 3:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's also ignoring the fact that Rodgers played nearly as well against those teams as he did against the bad ones....
… but hey, why let the facts get in the way of a 15 year old pop culture reference it took him an hour to dream up?
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell...
It seems your comment
Does he know that Green Bay has only played two upper tier teams (Cincinnati, Minnesota) who each have outstanding pass defensesproves his point, no? Simmons was saying that Rodgers runs his stats up against bad teams, not good ones.
Now I do realize Rodgers wound up with good stats in both Vikings games trying to come from behind but I do get Simmons “humor about holding the ball” even though I think Rodgers is an up and coming star. Bottom line is that this should be a very correctable problem.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he played well
against every team so far except the Bucs, and thats debatable. 3 picks is not good though.
"Are we doing everything we can to win games, or are we doing everything we can to run a certain thing that we want to run? I want to win, and I want to do whatever it takes to win. At some point you have to take the handcuffs off and let the boys play." - Cullen Jenkins 11/01/09
by PackaCracka on Nov 9, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
leading the fantasy world
in points, also
"Are we doing everything we can to win games, or are we doing everything we can to run a certain thing that we want to run? I want to win, and I want to do whatever it takes to win. At some point you have to take the handcuffs off and let the boys play." - Cullen Jenkins 11/01/09
by PackaCracka on Nov 9, 2009 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate how he's often called a pop culture guru
but then he references the same three movies in every single column.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 6:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Awww c'mon.
If I can laugh when he makes fun of the Vikings, can’t you laugh when he makes fun of the Packers? And honestly, when is the last time you’ve seen a Married With Children reference?
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
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by Robert Rence on Nov 7, 2009 7:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not long enough
Married With Children is a terrible show. I do not understand why people ever watched it.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Nov 7, 2009 8:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont understand
why spike thinks its ok to still play episodes late at night!
by bizzle4 on Nov 7, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, it gets in the way of all their other very high quality programming.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Touche, sir
"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." - Bob Uecker
by texwestern on Nov 8, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit
that I laughed when I read the line too.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Nov 7, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny how Married with Children
Is only popular with Viking fans. Strange…..
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or people who still enjoy cliche and dated laugh track sitcoms from the mid nineties.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps...
Hey, might have been the Wisconsin ratings that sent the show into reruns. ;-)
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Simmons is an idiot
and I’ve rarely found him funny. He’s the biggest Boston homer there is, and nothing beats out a Boston Sports Fan in terms of sheer irritability.
by vitaminx on Nov 7, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
I know some Cubs fans that would blow Boston fans away.
"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." - Bob Uecker
by texwestern on Nov 8, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I guess when a funny spin is put on something that is true, it is hard to find it humor in it… Guess it proves the truth really does hurt. I don’t know???? How else can you explain the shortage of people with a sense of humor around here. My lord people! Haven’t you ever heard, “if you can’t laugh at yourself, who the hell can you laugh at”? It’s a week later, let it go!
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 6:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"it's a week later, let it go."
Why are you even here? It’s a week later, your team has a 3 game lead on the Packers and is one of the best teams in the league, and no more games against GB on its schedule, and you’re hanging around a Packers site?
And you think WE are the ones to need to “let it go”?
Physician, heal thyself…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 7, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
Easy now… Nothing for me to let go. You are right. We have a 3 game lead (4 actually) and could simply go 4-4 and probably still win the division unless someone goes 8-0. Not sure why I would let any of that go..?
As for my site habits—if you really care….I have many sites I browse each day. Tend to stick with DN and APC because of the "excitement".
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is one thing to go on another team’s site and be respectful; it is another thing completely to go on a rival’s site as trolls, like you and Retched are doing here, and take potshots at a team when it is down.
You shouldn’t be surprised that you are getting bitch-slapped (appropriately enough) over here for doing it.
The glass is more than half-full.
by NorthStarr on Nov 8, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's funny how an unfunny joke can't just be unfunny
It has to revolve around us being butthurt about a shot at our QB. Don’t be so narrow minded.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, narrowminded...?
Odd, how it is only funny outside of Wisconsin when the title was “Just had to share”.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because the four people that posted here is an accurate representation of Wisconsin right?
I’m not gonna sit here and argue with you about this. I’m not mad about the comment, I just don’t find it funny because I don’t find Bill Simmons or Married with Children funny.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know Bill Simmons
But I still found the comment funny. Viking fan or not.
I also wasn’t a big fan of MWC but still find the comment humorous in it’s attempt to describe Rodgers issues. Frankly you don’t have to be a fan of the show to appreciate the joke.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't find a testicles joke funny, what is the big issue here?
If you do that’s great, but don’t sit here and insist that I do as well.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Never insisted you personally find it funny
I just said it is odd how it is only funny outside of Wisconsin.
As for my other comments, they were directed at someone who chose a sarcastic route and apparently didn’t expect the same in return. I never said anyone “had” to find it funny. I just had an issue with being a jackass.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering I don't live in Wisconsin, I guess it's not funny in MN either.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No it's funny in MN
I attest to that.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
People with sixth-grade-intelligence level senses of humor would find testicle jokes funny, I suppose.
The glass is more than half-full.
by NorthStarr on Nov 8, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you're wrong
it isn’t funny in Minnesota.
See how easy that was?
"Are we doing everything we can to win games, or are we doing everything we can to run a certain thing that we want to run? I want to win, and I want to do whatever it takes to win. At some point you have to take the handcuffs off and let the boys play." - Cullen Jenkins 11/01/09
by PackaCracka on Nov 9, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
:-)
Easy now… Nothing for me to let go. You are right. We have a 3 game lead (4 actually) and could simply go 4-4 and probably still win the division unless someone goes 8-0. Not sure why I would let any of that go..?
As for my site habits—if you really care….I have many sites I browse each day. Tend to stick with DN and APC because of the “excitement”.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 6:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Take your shots while you can...
… your teams is going to be terrible soon enough. You’ll fall back to the punchline side of things soon enough.
by StephanL on Nov 7, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if you are talking to me or not…. But I am not taking shot’s at anyone and never intended to. I simply tried to say something was funny and suggested that perhaps it was time to move on and laugh. How in the workd is that taking a shot?
And, yeah, keep throwing stones and saying we are going to be horrible soon enough. Frankly, that talk doesn’t bother me because I know what we are building is for many years to come. It is not a one year team. Brett may only play one year but I am sure we will make plans to fill in if he leaves…. Also, so what if we don;t win a Super Bowl this year, so what! Again, it is a young team built to keep getting better. So, punchline, no, not unless 12 wins or more is a punchline.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 7, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see who is build to for success.
You’re having a great year. I’ll take nothing from that. But the Vikings team is not built for the future. The Vikings have to make a push this year, because you won’t have a chance to do so again any time soon. You might be in a better position than the Bears though, but they have a franchise QB (of at least think they do). The Bears team is really, really old. But back to the Vikings: I was really surprised you guys let Booty go for a little while there. I was under the impression that he was being groomed for good things. I thought he showed promise.
I’m not mad at you guys, if I was in your position I would be getting my shots in also. You’re on top this year and the division is yours to lose.
by StephanL on Nov 7, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that their time is definetly now
Brett Favre plays for one more year at most then it’s back to the drawing board at QB. With the way Peterson plays (He’s gonna hurt himself charging at guys like he does) and the fact that RBs seem to only get three to four great years, I wouldn’t imagine him remaining dominant for a whole lot longer. Two of your top defensive players (Winfield and Pat Williams) are getting older and one of them (Williams) looks to be on the decline already.
But hey, they’re doing great now, just saying that they aren’t really built for the future.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 7, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree also
that their time is now. I think they’re a good team but not as good as N.O.maybe. Bringing in Favre was a gamble if it does’nt work out they will be behind for years to come. To say that Rodgers only does well against poor teams is rediculous concidering he’s done better against those teams than some other top rated QBs Favre included.
by cheddarhead on Nov 8, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We are very young as a team
Winfield is signed for a few more years and we keep drafting to find the right guys to fill in and improve our secondary.
Pat Wiliiams is indeed declining and I believe Letroy Guillon is already as good as him (not so on run but better on pass) and will step in soon enough if they don’t draft a beast somehow.
QB… Hmmmm…. Personally I do not think Favre will be back next year unless we come really close and then he likely will. If he doesn’t, I personally have believed for some time that McNabb is in Chilly’s plans beginning next year and has been for some time. McNabb is wearing out his welcome in Philly and Kolb performed admirably in the few games he started this year. I could see something happening there – although I don’t think McNabb can do as well as Favre has this year so far.
Other than that, look at the post on DN about Player Rankings. You can see all of our top half (starters) are very, very young with the exception of the few mentioned above (and Longwell). The nice part is that they are spread out positional issues that can be addressed without negatively impacting the whole offense or defense.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 8, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting points!
Other than that, look at the post on DN about Player Rankings. You can see all of our top half (starters) are very, very young with the exception of the few mentioned above (and Longwell). The nice part is that they are spread out positional issues that can be addressed without negatively impacting the whole offense or defense
This could be a mixed bag though. It has a lot of upside if you have a lot of young players who are good. Good talent for years is not a bad thing.
But the thing that fans all too often forget while talking about talented young teams is the dreaded contract talks. When these young players demand more money for playing well, you either have to pay up or focus on which players you need to keep while letting others walk. I feel the contract issue happens on the first and last contracts they sign. First because a player may flop after signing a big contract while young. Last because (most notably older RB’s) could have a serious drop off.
The young player issue bothers me a little bit though. I just don’t like how the draft allows some of these young players sign huge contracts before stepping on an NFL field. Makes me very apprehensive of the contract situation in the NFL.
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by Bush League All Star on Nov 8, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree completely
I hate the contracts that unproven players are getting in the 1st round. How long before more teams take the NE Patriot approach and trade 1st Rd picks for two 2nd RD picks, etc.?
by PurpleJesus on Nov 8, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's sad
that it has gotten to the point where teams don’t want to have high draft picks because of the money entailed with drafting that high. A team gets the number 1 pick and can’t find anyone who would possibly consider trading into that spot. Makes no sense.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Nov 9, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is one of the more annoying aspects of the game
How all of these rookies are so entitled before even playing a down. They need a system like the NBA where there a player is paid a certain amount for where they are drafted so you don’t have anymore of this Crabtree nonsense. I also think they should make a lot less money. Nothing against Stafford but at this point in his career he does not deserve to make top money like he does.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 9, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the Vikings look to be equipped to be very competitive for the next 5 years.
AP nearly accomplishes that by himself. The Vikings are old at DT and QB, which are fairly important positions, and they’ll need to address those soon to stay at or near where they are right now, and I still think their DB’s are below average after Winfield, but every good team has problems like that in today’s NFL.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 8, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I go out for a night of drinking and gaming
And I come back to PJ going at it with a few other folks.
My apologies.
My goal here was to make people laugh. Based off of the Packer fan responses, I got one laugh, and a bunch of people angry, and I apologize for that. That wasn’t my intent.
In the future, if I see something that pokes at the Packers when making it’s joke, I’ll keep it off this board.
Take care, and again, good luck on Sunday.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
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by Robert Rence on Nov 7, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
half the people were faux-offended because of the source
I was offended because the joke wasn’t funny and Simmons is best served sticking to what he knows best.
I’ve no quarrel with any Vikings fans. Not yet, anyway.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Nov 8, 2009 3:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
humor
at the expense of your team only works when the team is really performing well or when its done by someone everyone really likes. When its done by “the enemy” its seen as threatening and its going to get backlash from people.
Personally it didn’t bother me, I am most certainly not going to take wisdom on football from THAT GUY who is paid to know basketball, but I got a chuckle on the Bundy reference.
by TrevorR on Nov 8, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very well stated
I also never intended any harm or hard feelings toward anyone in my attempt to defend Robert. I just tried to point out that it was simply humor, not anything derogatory. Heck, Favre, certainly pushed a hell of a lot of humor our way and I believe we took it all.
Anyway, I also apologize if I offended anyone, again it was never the intent. I enjoy talking quality football with many of you and enjoy this site as it is always very well written.
Good luck today and in the rest of the season.
by PurpleJesus on Nov 8, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed PJ
if you stick to quality football discussion and stay away from jokes at the opponent’s expense (be they good or bad jokes) then everything should be fine. Am I to suppose that no one @ DN got offended/annoyed by any Love Boat jokes?
Your discussions on football have always been fairly balanced, even if they are coming from a Vikings perspective, so lets just stick to that.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Nov 8, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Go back and read his comments. Well worded attacks.
"Are we doing everything we can to win games, or are we doing everything we can to run a certain thing that we want to run? I want to win, and I want to do whatever it takes to win. At some point you have to take the handcuffs off and let the boys play." - Cullen Jenkins 11/01/09
by PackaCracka on Nov 9, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At times
they can be but of all the visitors from other sites (or even just the complete trolls who pop up out of nowhere) I think PJ and RR are two of the better ones. I mean, they’re still Vikings fans but what can you do? :)
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Nov 9, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will go out on a limb and disagree. (partially/semantics)
Notoriously horrible teams can take jokes with the best of them as well. Amendment to your original statement. This joke is just not funny, creative, or original. Now if say some former Packer would fart on some other former Packer on national television, that may catch a brief chuckle/wtf laugh from me.
But just chalk this up to poor structured joke!
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by Bush League All Star on Nov 8, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I withdraw,
and apologize for, my inclusion of the author in my earlier comments directed at that idiot, PJ.
The joke was lame, though.
The glass is more than half-full.
by NorthStarr on Nov 8, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Rence
You Got my Boy Now quit TROLLING. You got all hot and bothered when I gave you guy’s slack on your DN site. If it makes you feel any better, I think most of Packer Nation is rooting for Favre to win a Super Bowl.. So seeing you haven’t anything better to do with your time LITTLE MAN.. Get off this site or so help me I will find your IP address and make your life miserable. You want to call me ? email me at stevetlachac 2760@yahoo.com
by FAVRE4$EVER on Nov 9, 2009 4:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
you think WRONG
wow…couldn’t be more wrong.
by TrevorR on Nov 9, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT THE...?
Let’s be reasonable here…
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by Bush League All Star on Nov 9, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding?
First of all, “most of Packer Nation is rooting for Favre to win a Super Bowl?” Get real. I am hoping he fails miserably.
Second, personal attacks of this sort are so far over the line that its not worth discussing. Get a life. We can all disagree about the Favre situation but come on.
RR, I for one welcome your visits and hope you continue to drop by from time to time to discuss football. I understand there will be flare-ups whenever a rival fan comes onto our site but I think you do a decent job of not antagonizing people over here. But that is just my opinion.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Nov 9, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trolling defined:
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response1 or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
I got “hot and bothered” because your post was poorly-written garbage directed personally at me. Oddly enough, it’s been modded from the APC and yet it remains on the DN. But that’s getting into other issues.
In addition to criticizing how you post, I even tackled a few issues you brought up about your team. I believe I handled them rationally.
In regards to finding out my IP. Let’s make a game of it. Any of the site admins can provide you with my IP. If you can get any of them to reveal it to you, I’d be surprised.
And really, I don’t want to call you.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
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by Robert Rence on Nov 10, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And this one is just for spite:
You got my boy, now quit trolling! You got all hot and bothered when I gave you guy’s grief on your DN site. If it makes you feel any better, I think most of Packer Nation is rooting for Favre to win a Super Bowl.. So seeing you haven’t got anything better to do with your time, little man, get off of this site or so help me I will find your IP address and make your life miserable. You want to talk directly to me? email me at stevetlachac 2760@yahoo.com
Fixed, but that’s not all!
I have been a die-hard Packer fan sinceI was five years old and I am now 45. Did you ever want to jump through your TV screen and get on the sidelines to tell the Coach to use his imagination and learn how to call plays? Enough is enough. This B.S. has got to end . I hate to say it, but if we don’t finish this season with at least a 9-7 record then the staff has got to be let go. Until the Board of Directors get off their collective asses and fires Murphy, Thompson, and McCarthy, we can look forward to mediocrity for, who knows, another 20 years. I don’t know about Packer Nation, but you have got to realize there are too many egos in this front office. After all, if Bob Harlan had been in charge when the Favre Fiasco happened last year, you know well that he would have sided with Brett. But this goes deeper than Brett.
Aaron Rodgers is a capable quarterback. If the Packers don’t hire some veteran free agents to shore up the line, and I am not talking about Taush or Clifton (God bless ’em, but their playing days are over). Any Idiot knows the Game is won in the trenches. We need to get some Hogs up front and get rid of that pathetic zone blocking scheme. That scheme worked for one Super Bowl team, the Denver Broncos. Name one NFL team that has won a Super Bowl Game with a zone blocking scheme since.
And as far as McCarthy is concerned, It’s his responsibility bringing Capers in to have a 3-4 Defensive scheme. Now I am a fan of that scheme, but what the heck is going on? if we are not going to send the kitchen sink after good QB’s, we’re going to give them enough time to sit back there to light a smoke and have a Cocktail! Then why did we even bother bringing it in? The only thing I can think of, if you like a conspiracy theory, is that Capers’ is intentionally holding back the proper schemes so that McCarthy gets canned and Wa-lah! He becomes the next contestant on “Coach the Packers”.
Maybe we all should do what the Cleveland Brown fans did and stage a protest. I found McCarthy’s phone number on the Internet tonight, and if I wasn’t such a nice guy, I would have called him and told him to pull out all the stops. Use a Double Reverse, a half-back option, call flea-flickers, anything to take the pressure off of that pathetic offensive line. These guys get paid hundreds of thousands to millions to do what they are suppose to do, so excuse me if I don’t have any pity on any of them. Man up or get out of the league. No wonder why Brett left. I wouldn’t want to stand behind that line either.. I pray them over-paid cocky sons of beeches get this thing done, or we are going to be the Tampa Bay or Detroit’s of the league! Et cetera, you get the picture.
Later, I’m out of here.
- Stevo
See how a little bit of time turns your posts from incoherent ramblings into readable posts? Now you give it a try!
Oh yeah, that’s-a some nice spite.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
by Robert Rence on Nov 10, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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