Can we PLEASE fire McCarthy. He was out coached today, and he does not motivate his players!!!!!!

Why is it for the last 2 years EVERYONE on the PACKERS gets injured. Were is are strengthing coach.

No fire, no determination. They thought they had the game won through the entire game.

If the packers keep playing like this, perhaps they should so the joke of coaching is ejected and a draft pick can revive this pathetic show we all saw today.

Terrible defense. A fat dumb coach. An offense that can score quickly in the passing game but can also go dormant for long periods of time. A qb who can scramble and put up big yardage numbers but can’t score in the clutch to win. Rodgers is like a white daunte culpepper with bigger hands. And most of all this uncanny ability to either obliterate the opponent or lose a competitive game. They get blown out about as rarely as they win a game in the 4th quarter. Once or twice a season. Horrifically bad special teams. Penalties called on them constantly.

I am a Vikings fan primarily and can say that these Packers really, really remind me of so many somewhat bad to average to pretty decent Culpepper led teams. It seems like they have all the potential in the world to do great things but they consistently don’t get the desired result on game day.

Bummer. The post Favre era isn’t quite going as planned. But this game today was hard fought and was closer than the final score indicated. I wouldn’t quite call it a moral victory but the Pack did hang pretty tough at a hard stadium to play in. They’ll get ’em next time.

Rodgers hangs onto the ball wayyy to long.Maybe he’s dellusions of grandeur,and thinks the football is his Academy award!!

AS for Fats McCarthy,he needs a lifetime membership to Jenny Craig.I’ve had it with his fat spare tire of a tummy….

And Thompson.Well we all know why he is in the press box by himself…
HE’S GETTING LITTLE TEDDY BLOWN!!!!!!!!

I was a Packer fan,under Thompson did an unpardonable sin,and traded Brett away.
(Thompson may you smoke a turd in hell)

TT is responsible for Justin Harrell and the o-line. MM is responsible for the penalties. But the special teams? two weeks in a row – say what you want about Favre and Freeman, but the kick off returns last week and the kickoff and punt returns this week doomed Green Bay. The Pack had a chance to make it 28-14 at the end of the first half and could not move the ball. Why? I guess this is just not a particularly good team that is not particularly well-coached.

That’s it! No more talk about Aaron Rodgers is this next great Packer QB of all time. Yes the O-Line is not what it used to be and early this season what downright ugly….however, the O-Line is actually doing better as evidenced by the facts that the ground gain is now getting 100+ yards per game (and even per rusher, per game) and that the number of outright, “jailbreak” rush to the QB, plays have dropped dramatically. The O-Line is giving Rodgers some, reasonable time, to make a quick decision and get rid of the ball…bottom line…he isn’t…and THAT more than anything is the cause of the majority of the sacks.

I know that SOME wanna-be fans are making this WHOLE SEASON about Brett vs Ted…and yeah, I get it…I have my side that I have choosen in that battle too. But can we put that aside for ONE SECOND and just look at this team (and each piece of it) in completely honest eyes for a momment?

Does Aaron have a crazy big and accruate arm? Yes. Does that make an NFL QB? No! He can read a defense, but he doesn’t seem to be able to do more than call what the defense is…no ability to visualize a play as it forms against that defense to give him an idea of where to look right away for the open men in his checks. He also is younger and is very moble…he can rush the ball if need be. However, he doesn’t move in the pocket well, he doesn’t have that peripheral sense to know where to and not to step, and so mostly…he just doesn’t stay in the pocket. He drops to the top of the pocket and then rolls to either side when it starts to break down because he holds on to the ball too long, which puts the linemen in a bad situation to either let thier guy go or hold. Not recognizing these truths is in NO WAY helping Rodgers develop. If we, as fans, continue to gloss over these facts (since obviously the coaching staff seems to be), then there will be no pressure to get those corrections made and the longer that goes…the harder and harder it will be to re-train him.

Another thing…and I’ll bring Favre into this point…I think Aaron lacks the heart of a winner, like the one that Brett has and other QB’s have. When I watch Aaron play, I see Aaron making the best passes that will work out the best for Aaron…not necessarily the team. What I mean by that is, when we had Brett we all knew Brett was going to throw some interceptions. It’s not that Brett liked throwing picks, he was just willing to throw a pass up for grabs to make a play to advance the drive or get the score. Aaron isn’t willing to do the same. So while it most certainly helps Aarons stats (like the all encompassing Passer Rating…UGH!), it’s also showing up on the stat that means the most…wins and losses. Sure, the Pack died on Bretts arm, but the Pack also lived on Bretts arm and it lived to win alot more than it lost. I would rather watch a team or a player, roll the dice to win the game, then play it safe as so not to lose a game.

Yeah, sorry, but when you give a rookie QB that is the hope for the future of a franchise a year to sit, watch and learn and see those results on the field vs those QB’s that had to play their first year…no…sorry…the “it’s his second season!” argument doesn’t hold water at all. Now…I will give you that I don’t know what more sitting for a second and third season adds to a QB that just playing ball does, so I will conceed a bit to the point that, he really isn’t the five seasons that his resume shows…but he’s not a second season QB either…so let’s split the difference and call him a 3rd year QB.

Next, the whole point I am making is that NO ONE is talking about Aaron’s defiencies at QB, which are most definately there. You have an absolute point about Brett when he was younger and still a rough colt…but the difference is that…the fans KNEW IT! We would boo him for making dumb throws! But everyone knew that we didn’t do it out of ill will or spite…but because we, as fans…were also trying to teach him about being a QB. We would also cheer him when he would throw a ball away! Just to show him, that is was ok to do so! Packer fans used to be the most intelligent football fans in the country…bar none! Now…no so much.

So I took this opportunity, while making this point to highlight every single place and piece of Arrons game that needs improvement in the hopes that, maybe the Packer fans who were just as much of a part of the maturation process of Brett Favre, will remember that time and what roll we played and do the same for Aaron. Because the coaching staff, flat out isn’t.

Sure, leave your new QB already. And then maybe Favre will somehow change his mind, and break his contract and come back. It does not matter how much he tries, you Favre lovers will always say he sucks. So he had a bad game, #4 never did that. Address the real problem, the coach. Somebody stated, well it was special teams, but who is OVER ALL responsible for everything on the team, maybe the HEAD COACH. There is no fire, no sense of urgency in every game. I see the post were someone stated Rogers lacks the heart of a winner, Ok…. I guess I can see that, although the 12 yard touchdown run seemed to suggest other wise, but if thats what you feel, I can kind of see it. But the COACH should be the one who is getting everyone motivated, helping them want to win.

But it seems to me that this is not just a one time deal. I know I maybe wrong here, I have not checked my facts, but have we just seem to be playing half the games since about 1999. We lost Holgrem (and gave what he wanted to Sherman when he came to town) Rhodes never really got a chance, and we floundered under Sherman for what seemed like an eternity. McCarthy had one lucky season, and then disaster. So what has been missing for 10 years or so? What did Mike H. have that the other 3 didn’t? I think, really, the ability to stand up to thier players and COACH them. Not trying to be thier friend, make them accountable. Will some body please bring in a Bill Cowher, or the Tuna, a hard knocks football coach that would get in someones face when they fall apart. Someone who maybe take Rogers aside and say, “3 seconds kid, that’s what I give you, 3 seconds and get rid of the ball, or I find someone else!” (That is not a knock on Rogers, I think he’s going to be a monster when/if he’s coached right). Someone who understands that even if your going to a 3-4 maybe, just maybe the leagues second best pass rusher (Kampman) should be doing just that (RUSHING THE PASSER). And how about MAYBE, JUST MAYBE a coach that would do something to a player that causes one stupid penalty after another. Can anyone say stopping a TRAITOR on 3rd and whatever on the what 11 yard line, to force them to stick to a field goal, and somebody ……. oh I don’t know ……. what could be something that NO ONE would ever do in that instance, wait how about head butt one of the opposing players!!!!!

I don’t stand with your earlier comments. I think Rogers is good, as good as Favre, I know you won’t see that so we dissagree. The problems that you raise are good ones, and are all easily fixed by having a coach with some mental strenght in him to teach his young QB what he’s not doing right. I think MM got spoiled by coming in and having Favre on his team. He is not up to bringing along a young QB. This is were we agree. Our coaching is suspect and it is proven day in and day out every single week.

Will someone please FIRE Mike McCarthy! This loss is unacceptable. He better not be back next year. Next home game we should start a protest. Hold up your signs and start screaming “FIRE MM”

I agree about the special teams issues mentioned above but those too are coaching. They teach these guys “lane containment”, now they’re either not getting it or not applying it. I guess you guys will have to decide that. A missed assignment up the middle on a punt block…no excuse!

But, I don’t agree how Favre would fare. He would do lots of play action and roll to create time. He does that al lot here. I think our O-line is getting too much credit. Just look at AP’s numbers. Plus, it’s a lot easier for Favre here when they put 8 in the box all the time. He’s got it made either way. Notice all the slants we’re running? What’s that? 3 step drop and fire. But, he has thrown the ball hard, is decisive and is deadly accurate , even in a crowd. You need to give him some credit.

If in GB, he’d have to be rolling out all the time (which he’s VERY good at) and throwing short and you guys KNOW he’d be doing that. He’d also be successful too. This one I don’t understand…when you got Rogers, who can run, why not run more play action? Gees, it’s obvious (well it is to me). As for the Jones TD it was low risk. One on one. No matter how you look at it, it’s an offensive advantage. Rogers threw it well and out beyond trouble so it’s either incomplete or it’s a TD. 80 yds, a TD, early in the game…yeah that’s great for stats.

As for why I say he’s selfish is that SO often you see “under” receivers wide open and he doesn’t even try. Moving the chains is good for the team and the fans. It’s not good for a QB’s numbers. Heck, to me it doesn’t even look like he’s trying to win. So you tell me…why?

And by the way, Grant is getting better all the time. You don’t thik he’s doing it alone do you? As for the secondary, it does have to be mentioned they’re on the field A LOT. so to be fair they just might be getting tired. BUT, the touchdown where the guy was standing wide open at the middle/back of the end zone, 3 packers were with one/two yards. Watch it again, they just looked confused. That IS coaching.

Have some faith guys. The coaches need to watch more films of the packers, NOT the other teams. I think they’ll respond. Try to be patient.