Packer Restricted Free Agents In An Uncapped Year

by Brandon on Dec 30, 2009 10:45 PM CST in Analysis Comment 30 comments

GREEN BAY PACKERS: Atari Bigby, S; Will Blackmon, CB; Daryn Colledge, G; Nick Collins, S; Johnny Jolly, DE; John Kuhn, FB; Derrick Martin, S; Jason Spitz, C.

These are players that would have been unrestricted free agents, but will remain restricted if the NFL and the players don't agree on a new collective bargaining agreement before March.

Collins is the big name here. I don't believe this counts all Packer restricted free agents, and it's likely that at least a couple players (maybe Kuhn and Martin) won't be offered a contract. Then they would become unrestricted free agents, but could be resigned later in free agency.

Do you think all these players should be back in 2010? Collins should be brought back whether he's restricted or not. Colledge is someone I don't want to see back next season. What about the rest of them?

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I'd like to see Bigby, Collins, Blackmon (even though I know he'll be injured), and Jolly brought back

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by Michael M on Dec 30, 2009 11:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I wish we could get a star returner, not just a ok one like Blackmon

Manning on the bears is a beast at returning kicks, amazing speed and the power to blow tackelers over, I bet we could get him from the bears for a draft pick, looks like they may need to clean house soon and may be shopping for value. He would provide great depth at any position in the secondary too. (Nickle corner and third safety. Not great in coverage but very good in blitzing)

for the others, Bigby (underrated), Collins (regular probowler), Jolly (great big lineman), Kuhn (im iffy on this one, he used to be a great special teams tackler, but not so much now), Spitz (replaceable if we draft a good center, but the best we have now)

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

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by blackoutsox on Dec 30, 2009 11:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I only read your first sentence

I just need to tell you that you instantly underestimated Will Blackmon he is very good.

by Donald Driver on Dec 31, 2009 2:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I second that

Will Blackmon is good. He’s not amazing, but he’s good. He’s the best returner on our roster, and we all know how long our wait was for a good returner since we lost Desmond Howard.

by Jabooty on Dec 31, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking the same thing…he’s great at returning…not so great at staying healthy!

by TrevorR on Jan 3, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Collins is a must-sign.

I wouldn’t mind re-signing Jolly or Bigby. Spitz would be a good re-sign for depth on the OL. I would not be upset if the rest of that group were not re-signed. Particularly Colledge, who should have been cut loose a long time ago.

by Tophr on Dec 31, 2009 1:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Charles Woodson should be a Safety next year.

I wouldn’t mind resigning Bigby, but he’d have to come cheap. I’d like to move Charles Woodson to Safety next year to extend his career. He’s getting old and is catching up to Al Harris in age, which means injuries may begin racking up soon. Considering he had injury issues early in his career with Oakland, that makes me nervous.

Nick Collins needs to be resigned. Woodson and Collins work excellent together and have done a tremendous job in helping Tramon Williams progress. Next year is time to draft a CB in the first round and keep Williams in there as a starting CB.

We can get a good OT in the 2nd Round to compliment TJ Lang next year. We can get another G in the 3rd Round to replace Darryn Colledge. Jason Spitz should be resigned to a short term deal though.

by Jabooty on Dec 31, 2009 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

um... no.

Woodson is debatably DPOY at CB this year. You don’t shuffle a player like that to S a year later in the hopes of getting an extra year at the end of his career unless he tanks during the offseason.

Two years from now, maybe. And that’s assuming his play slips remarkably in 2010, which I highly doubt will happen.

I do, however, agree with your assessment of OL, though I think it’s overly optimistic to think that the current coaching regime will start rookie draft picks unless they play lights out in the preseason.

by swilldog on Dec 31, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Spitz

I think both of you are forgetting that he has been a starter for us the past 3 years, and probably our best o-lineman in his time playing. He is a must sign. Collins is a must sign. Jolly should be re-signed and so should Bigby.

Woodson looks like he is 25 out there, and is having the best year of his career. Why move him to S? Maybe when he starts to show decline but he certainly hasn’t yet, and I don’t think he will next year either.

by packallday555 on Dec 31, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Woodson at S

I have stated many times that Woodson will eventually end up playing safety. Now is NOT the time to do so… He is still playing lights out at CB and that is a much more difficult position to find. As long as he keeps playing CB the way he has, he stays at CB!

When his CB play drops off, he loses speed and quicks to play CB, then by all means make him a Safety! He can and would continue to make alot of plays as he gets older, as a safety!

Right now he is still WAY to valuable at CB to consider moving him to safety!!

by Strohman on Jan 1, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Just look at Sharper when he went to big eazy

by Grnbypkr on Jan 3, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What do we do at CB then? That leaves us with an over the hill Harris who’s NOT playing at a high level and Tramon who has a better chance of replacing Harris than Woodson. I keep Woodson at CB until he shows me he can’t do it anymore.

by TrevorR on Jan 3, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think that our o-line for next year should be

Clifton (with our first-rounder challenging him) at LT, Spitz at LG, Wells at C, Sitton at RG(he seems to have played surprisingly well) and Mark Tauscher at RT (challenged by T.J. Lang). I’m fine with cutting loose Colledge, Kuhn and Martin. I wouldn’t worry about Collins-he is a point of pride for Thompson and most surely will get his money. People said that Thompson picked him too early-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by Donald Driver on Dec 31, 2009 2:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think Chad Clifton will be an Unrestricted Free Agent after this season

Clifton and Tauscher will both be gone after this season. If we can resign them cheap, I’m all for it. We do need to get younger though. I like TJ Lang, so he should be one of our starting OT’s next year, if not a starting G to replace Darryn Colledge.

by Jabooty on Dec 31, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's the idea

I can’t imagine them having high price tags or wanting to leave, especially not former Badger Tauscher.

by Donald Driver on Dec 31, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn’t mind our o-line being what you stated above, but I don’t know if I like Wells in there. He is undersized and isn’t a very good run blocker. But he is of starting caliber, and having Spitz and Sitton at G would be nice as both are pretty good run blockers. I agree with your OT assessments. I would like to see Lang start somewhere though. He is a really good run blocker and an ok pass blocker. He definitely is good enough to be a starter somewhere.

by packallday555 on Dec 31, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jolly has been good all season

aside from his boneheaded unsportsmanlike penalty against the Vikes. I also like Bigby.

by Mark Y on Dec 31, 2009 4:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

It'd Make Me Happy

to see the safety tandem locked up. I feel this is easily the best duo GB has had since Butler-Sharper, maybe even better. I think it’s evident management wants their “type” of player, maybe they have reservations about Collins fitting that “type” and that’s why they’ve held out on his negotiations? At any rate, his performance warrants he’s paid like a top-tier safety.

Blackmon, ehhh. Colledge, ehhh, depends on who they replace him with. Jolly has been good, it seems he is on par with Jenkins when it comes to playmaking.

by Wade V on Dec 31, 2009 6:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

negotiation delays

are probably due in large part to the uncertainty of the NFL labor situation. I doubt GB management has misgivings against Collins, unless they’re getting the message from his agent that he thinks he should be way overpaid.

by swilldog on Dec 31, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Only one I'd flush is Martin,

but I’d definitely not want to overpay for Colledge, Kuhn, or Blackmon. Any of those three can walk without much detriment to the team.

Collins is a must-sign. Bigby slightly less so since he can’t seem to stay healthy. I’ve been very impressed by the play of Jolly, hopefully he’s gotten his personal life straightened out. Spitz… meh. He’s at least a solid backup type, which is always good.

Basically: starter money for Collins, get a somewhat less so rate for Jolly, Spitz, and Bigby, and backup rates for the rest, excluding Martin unless he’s suuuuper cheap.

by swilldog on Dec 31, 2009 9:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Martin would come cheap though

and he does play good on Special Teams. I’d like to keep him. He has plenty of experience playing in the 3-4, is a talented Safety, and that makes him a valuable backup Safety for us.

by Jabooty on Dec 31, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

thats true for Martin

he just needs a year to learn the defense before we can throw him out there

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
Discord is sown. Brother fights brother. Misunderstandings abound.

-TAEG

by blackoutsox on Dec 31, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Need secondary depth badly

And even with drafting DBs, I think you need to sign Collins, Bigby and Blackmon. Use the draft (or FA) to replace Bush and Martin.

Keeping Spitz is a matter of how he recovers I think. And I would keep Colledge too for guard (not tackle Please) depth, can’t imagine his contract would be huge.

There’s a not insignificant chance Jolly does time, no?

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by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 31, 2009 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

get rid of colledge

i would had said keep him after last year then he resorted back to very inconsistant player . collins jolly a must sign jollys charges are old and he has behaved since . like to see atari back seeing as no good depth on roster but cant be too expensive same with blackman.

by packfan90' on Dec 31, 2009 5:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Collins, Jolly...

and maybe Spitz…let the rest walk. Draft offensive lineman and groom a new safety

by PackFaninFL on Jan 1, 2010 4:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Isn't that what we tried last/this year?

Do these names not ring a bell?

Rouse
Barbre
Giacomini
Lang
Sitton

by Danwood on Jan 2, 2010 6:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Restricted FA

I don’t know about their demands, but personally I think they should all be brought back. Collins unquestionably, Bigby certainly (unless you want to see the Safety play like it was when he was out). Blackmon for now is our best return man and the #4 CB. Jolly has been a starter for 3 years and has earned a decent contract. Colledge, Spitz… Some of you seem to think they suck, and I’m not saying their great, but they are starters.

If you think replacing starters from a playoff team is going to be easy, your on crack!!! Soon as they hit unrestricted FA they will be getting calls. So unless you want a playoff team to undergo a massive overhaul you better want most of them back!

Thompson MIGHT sign a FA or two, if we lose some starters, but otherwise its back to the draft and HOPE we find alot of guys that will be starters immediately! You MIGHT be able to find 2 immediate starters from a draft, rest will take a year or 2 to even contend for a starting spot!!!

by Strohman on Jan 1, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Heck even Martin should be brought back, he is our best ST player!!! You complain up and down that Tracy White was released, but now you want Martin gone too… IDIOTIC!!!

Kuhn is expendable due to having Johnson and Hall. I doubt we’ll keep 3 FB again.

by Strohman on Jan 1, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs