Deja Vu All Over Again

by Mitchell Maurer on Feb 11, 2009 4:49 PM CST in Green Bay Packers News

Only this time, it's different.

Undoubtedly by now, you have heard that Brett Favre has re-retired. Favre, the longtime Green Bay Packer, closed out his career with the Jets with a whimper; a 9-7 record, the league lead in interceptions, and no playoff berth.

Gene Wojciechowski of ESPN.com gives us an article I'm pretty sure he cut-and-pasted from Peter King or Ed Werder that glorifies the good ol' boy, claiming that the NFL will miss him. Jeffri Chadiha, on the other hand, says that he has corrected his mistake from last offseason.

I personally know a few Wisconsinites that, now that Favre is out of the NFL, claim that they can like him again. Some of my friends maintain the stance that he's simply a drama-driven diva that got karmic justice in the failed NYC experiement. Personally, I am rather numb to anything Favre-centric. I made my opinions known last offseason, and there's no need to rehash them here.

I still believe that Favre was one of the top-3 QB's in league history, and certainly the best to ever play in a Packer uniform. But enough was enough 11 months ago...I'm just relieved it's over. It is over...right?

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Is Favre really done this time? No, really? I mean it, is he seriously, 100% gone?

Yes

58 votes

No

12 votes

I reserve the right to answer until week 4 of next season.

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Wow alittle harsh....

Brett is done this time he learned from last year to never try to unretire. But he did have a decent season last year. You looked at the negatives of the league leading 22 INTs but he also did something he hasnt done before throw 6 TDs in a game.

The article that Ed Werner had was very interesting. (it was a great way to pass class time reading it on the phone) I know how some people feel about Brett and TT but i think anyone would have done what Brett did. I am referring to in the article he states he thinks he came back for the wrong reasons. That some of his return to prove TT wrong. — I think anyone in his position would have done so. So lets not give him the crap we all had to deal with last year because 1. its not our problem and 2. He is still THE BEST Packer to lace up and easily top-3 QBS

by bizzle4 on Feb 11, 2009 5:15 PM CST reply actions

He hardly a decent season

23 ints is hard to call decent.

And the best Packer ever is Reggie White. Reggie is undoubtedly the best defensive end ever.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
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by jobe on Feb 11, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions

Since you brought up Reggie

Favre is hardly the last great player to change his mind. Reggie White did it too and finished with a forgettable 2000 season in Carolina. Vince Lombardi did it too; he realized the summer after he retired that he made a huge mistake and came back a year later in Washington. It would have been a bigger surprise if he never came back at all.

But it was a lousy season. His 81 QB rating and 22 TD/22 INT (10 fumble) season doesn’t look good, but on the surface it doesn’t look horrible. It looks better than his statistically bad 2005 and 2006 season, and similar to his thumb injury 1999 season. But the Jets played a bunch of bad pass defenses such as New England (if you wondering why the Pats didn’t make the playoffs, look at their roster of CBs-twice), Buffalo (twice), the entire lousy NFC West, and probably a couple other bad pass defenses I missed. If he was just as good as ever, he would have done better against that schedule.

by Brandon on Feb 12, 2009 12:13 AM CST up reply actions

yea 22 ints but thats brett

Brett did this year like he has his whole career… been a game changer sometimes it worked for him sometimes it didnt. but i never heard anyone rip on him when he was a Packer doing that! That was his style it worked for him for the most part and if it didnt he wouldnt be the winningest QB!

Also at 22 ints you have to look at who did he have to throw to? Coles and Crothchery are no DD and Jennings. He has thrown balls up and had trust in the WRS to go up and get them. So WRs that are not as good wont make some of those plays. Yes some of his balls they had no chance at but thats with every QB.

As Brett always said he didnt care about stats. In the end its all about getting Ws and so he didnt make the playoffs BUT I do believe he lead a winning team! What was our record? yeah he had a decent year ( I am not trying to take anything away from Rodgers he had a great year) But come on Brett was everyones hero for 16 years so there was a bitter divorce who cares cause 1. at the end of the day Football is still just a business that stuff happens and 2. thats life! Breakups happen, minds butt ,words cant be taken back and so on….

You could argue Reggie was the best Pack but if last summer didnt happen I dont think anyone would say Reggie. Favre still is THE best Packer to play….

by bizzle4 on Feb 12, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions

Do you work in Bristol, Connecticut?

You just gave me every Favre cliche’ there is. Actually you forgot “he plays the game like he’s a little kid”.

by jobe on Feb 13, 2009 2:25 AM CST up reply actions

Oh c'mon.

Yeah, he played like a little kid. He also acted like a ~~spoiled brat~~ little kid last offseason. He is selfish and self-centered.

The sad thing is that I always liked him alot and rooted for GB because of him (as long as they weren’t playing the Colts) and because of his behavior last summer, I lost all respect for him. It is really sad.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Feb 13, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions

I think Brett knows he's done.

He’s not finesse. He’s not really a scrambler. He’s was a gunslinger. He relied on his arm, not neccessarily his skill, to be the amazing qb he was. I think the fact that he tore his bicep and knew that a big chunk of “his game” would be gone, he made the right decision. One day contract anyone to just retire as a Packers like a couple others have in the past.

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Feb 11, 2009 6:07 PM CST reply actions

One day contract anyone to just retire as a Packers like a couple others have in the past.

The chances of that would be absolute nil. He wants nothing to do with the Packers and after all of the harm done last summer I can say I would be completely against it. He can go into the Packers Hall of Fame at a later date and have his number retired etc. but I think there is a better chance that bin Laden converts to Christianity than Favre retires as a Packer again.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Feb 11, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions

One day contract anyone to just retire as a Packers like a couple others have in the past.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Feb 11, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions

sorry for the double post

Thanks for the links to the articles Mitchell. I think Wojo’s piece was ok but Chadiha’s piece was dead-on. Favre’s solitary focus this year was on sticking it to the Packers. I’m just sad that it came to that. If you had told me on Feb 11, 2008 that my opinion of Brett Favre would have turned around 180 degrees I NEVER would have believed you. Shame

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Feb 11, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions

Wowsers, to quote Inspector Gadget...

I don’t know, but for me it’s about seeing that young kid come in in 1992 (was it?) and come in and beat Cincy on a last second TD pass…his running down the field after the long td pass to freeman in the superbowl, to the tossing of the snowballs playfully in his last season and yes last win against Seattle back in the 2007 playoffs…and all the good and bad in-between

As for his last season, he threw 9 of those 22 interceptions in the last 5 games, in which Favre asserts “he played with a torn biceps tendon in his right shoulder that got worse later in the season and needed a cortisone injection after the team’s game at San Francisco in Week 14.” (Dennis Wascak, AP 2.11.09)

Personally, all this “Favre ego”, his rift with management, etc is all the proverbial water deep under the bridge. For me, it’s all about the amazing memories, good and bad!

All the best 4.

by PackFaninFL on Feb 12, 2009 12:22 AM CST reply actions

+1

by bizzle4 on Feb 12, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions

First game

I recently watched a replay of that Cincinnati game on NFL Network a couple months ago. Watching it made me feel very old.

by Brandon on Feb 17, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions

Minnesota

Not that we really want Bret Favre to play for us, even considering our current situation, but I am curious as to how Packer fans would react if Favre did actually get released by the Jets and went to play for the Vikings. Sound off.
- Skol, Vikings fans

Mr. Weatherstone

by Mr. Weatherstone on Feb 12, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions

It wouldnt happen...

Favre realized he didnt have anything left in the tank! Last year he would have loved to just to stick it to TT alittle more but with the torn bicep and just loss of arm strength was the it for him…

by bizzle4 on Feb 12, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions

As much respect as I've lost for Favre over this past year

I don’t think even Brett would want to play in the shittiest state around. What an awful, awful place is.

I’m not even from Wisconsin, I don’t hold a grudge against Minnesota, I just speak the truth.

by jobe on Feb 13, 2009 2:27 AM CST up reply actions

Not sure I'd care anymore

In the summer I was dead set against it but now if he wants to go there he can knock himself out. Its not going to happen cause the Jets already respectfully declined to release after his agent asked about that possibility.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Feb 13, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions

Betrayal

I personally wouldn’t have been opposed to Favre in Minnesota. It’s his career to do with as he pleases. But the sense I have gotten from more casual fans, I think to them it would seem like a complete surprise and a shock. I think there would be a lot of bad blood. And also ESPN and the like would love to pump up such a story into the biggest deal ever.

by Brandon on Feb 17, 2009 1:34 AM CST up reply actions