We matched Bush's offer sheet?!!
by GoGregGo on Mar 16, 2009 7:15 PM CDT
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PrintI can't possibly be the only Packer's fan who saw the news that the Titans had made an offer for Jerrett Bush and thought to myself "Thank goodness, I don't have to watch him commit any more stupid 15-yard penalties or blow any more coverages. He's someone else's problem now." And then I see that TT matches Tennessee's offer? I actually cried out in dismay.
Why, why would you match this offer Ted? I was upset enough that we signed Anthony Smith, but now we have two crappy back-up safeties instead of one. I don't get it, Jerrett Bush is not, I repeat, NOT a good football player. I can't be alone in feeling like this.
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Jarred Bush
We seem to have cornered the free agent market on 3rd and 4th tier free agent back-up safeties AND other crummy secondary players…(sigh)
The one thing I will give TT credit for is sticking to his plan(s)—whatever plans those may be(?) All kidding aside, he is doing it his way so I have to at least tip my hat to him for not bowing to any public pressure of any kind.
I was at the philly game (4th and 26) and I was at the 08 NFC championship...history seems to repeat itself.
Jarrett
his name is Jarrett Bush, guys.
And at least he already knows the coverage schemes/play calls/etc.
But yes, I agree. Blech.
"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."
by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 16, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
The only problem is
he doesn’t already know the coverage schemes/calls, we got a new defense. Anthony Smith is supposed to know those things for our new defense.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
What have we missed?
I agree that Bush’s defensive play left me wondering.
But the Titans have a good defense. Why were they offering $1.5M for the guy? What did they know that we didn’t? Chuck Cecil is the new DC and he spent 4 years working on the secondary before getting moving up. Why did he want Bush?
Assume for a minute that all those teams that had an interest in Bush know something about football, and tell what they saw.
by 50 years and Counting on Mar 19, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions
Interesting Point
That’s an interesting point 50. Obviously the Titans must have seen SOMETHING that they liked. I can’t see what it is though. Maybe the Titans thought they could instill a little more discipline in Bush so that he wouldn’t commit stupid penalties.
I think I should point out though, back in 2004 the Colts tried to trade for Jamal Reynolds, despite the fact that he hadn’t produced at all for the Packers. That trade got voided because Reynolds failed a physical, so we cut him. He got signed by the Browns that same off-season and got cut by them before the season started.
What did the Browns and Colts know that we didn’t that made them want to acquire him? I don’t know, but it didn’t make him a good player.
you are right
you are absolutely right, and he probably cost us the giant playoff game two years ago
Still want to know what they saw.
The point about Jamal is a bit tangential. We tried to trade him after two years of injuries. The Colts didn’t take him because he failed his physical. Both clubs saw a guy who had durability problems. This was not question of talent. He was a Lombardi Award winner in college.
The Browns did try to help him resurrect his carreer, but they offered him $633,000 per year on a two year contract. Lots of teams give someone else’s cast off a try hoping to turn coal into diamond. That doesn’t mean they see a lot of immediate value.
$1.5M and three years speaks to a different assessment.
I can see two possibilities:
- He has value on special teams. We only remember his penalties. The GM’s see the penalties vs. tackles and blocks made. Also, I’m guessing it is easier to get a player to play smarter than it is to get player to bring attitude. But I’ve never coached beyond high school so I couldn’t say for sure.
- Bush came in undrafted which means he didn’t strike anybody as ready to play in the NFL. He has the build and speed, but he doesn’t have the skills. Perhaps both teams think he is improving and that this year or next he will be NFL caliber. Or perhaps both teams see him more a zone defender and the Pack will be using more zone next year.
What do you think?
by 50 years and Counting on Mar 22, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions
He has some value
Jamal Reynolds was such a terror in college that those teams wanted to kick the tires and see if the Packers were just missing something. Reynolds wasn’t a bust, he was one of the first NFL players to have the dreaded microfracture surgery, which some players come back from, but many, including Reynolds, don’t make it back. He was a bust in the sense that he never played, but his serious knee injury happened in his rookie season. He didn’t just take his fat rookie contract and go into the tank. He just never got a chance.
Bush is player who can play safety or cornerback, he played the nickel all of 2007, and plays a lot on special teams. So he can make the roster of nearly any team in the NFL because he can fill a lot of roles. He just doesn’t do any of these things very well. And at the price of just over $1 million per season, considering some of the crazy money thrown at marginal cornerbacks over the past several seasons, the price is right. He isn’t going to suddenly make the Leap to starting caliber, but he does have value by playing multiple positions and making the occasional big play on special teams.
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