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Did The Draft Help The Lions?

How could it not?

The mid-season trade of WR Roy Williams provided Detroit with Dallas' 1st and 3rd round picks, giving them five picks in the top 82. With nearly every spot on the roster in need of improvement, this was a very important draft for them.

Detroit slipped from a promising 6-2 start in 2007, to a 7-9 finish, to a 0-16 disaster. Their defense was the worst in the NFL in 2007, based on total yards allowed, and it got even worse in 2008. Their offense was respectable in 2007, thanks to a solid season from QB Jon Kitna. But Kitna got off to a poor start in 2008, was soon thereafter lost for the season with an injury, and eventually traded to Dallas this offseason.

Now they're building around No. 1 overall selection QB Matthew Stafford.

Star-divide

Looking back, I gave Matt Millen a thumbs up last season. He drafted two offensive starters, RT Gosder Cherlius and RB Kevin Smith, and added three defensive players in the first three rounds. Cherlius was good last season, when he wasn't taking a shot at DE Jared Allen. Smith was good too, but he had too many carries in college to expect a long NFL career and his mouth isn't doing him any favors. Millen did waste his 2nd round pick on LB Jordon Dizon, who seems destined to remain strictly a special teams player. 3rd round DT Andre Fluellen is strickly a backup. 3rd round DE Cliff Avril had 5 sacks as a rookie and has been described as one of the three best players on the team. Not a bad haul.

Here's what Detroit found in this April's draft:

  • 1st round (No. 1 overall) - QB Matthew Stafford. I'm not a fan of this pick. He's a combine superstar who doesn't play like it on the field. That said, he's a high risk-high reward pick in a draft without a clear top player. As much as the franchise needs a boost, they can't automatically name him the starter. In recent seasons, I've watched QB Aaron Rodgers and QB Brian Brohm struggle horribly as rookies. They have to wait until he's ready.
  • 1st round - TE Brandon Pettigrew. At first, this seemed like a luxury pick. Few tight ends are drafted in the 1st round and Detroit has so many holes on the roster. But GM Ted Thompson considered drafting Pettigrew with the No. 9 overall selection and he was the best receiver available at that spot.
  • 2nd round - SS Louis Delmas. He's a good tackler, good in coverage, and very aggressive. But at 6'0" and 200 lbs. he's also undersized at safety. I would have liked this pick if Delmas could play cornerback. He's similar to, but a little lighter than, SS Atari Bigby, but I doubt anyone in the NFL would trade a 2nd round pick for Bigby.
  • 3rd round - LB DeAndre Levy. I really want to like the selection of a Wisconsin Badger, but I don't like this pick. Levy is a little too slow and a little to small to play outside linebacker in the NFL. And he rarely stood out when I watched the Badgers play. 
  • 3rd round - WR Derrick Williams. As Sean notes, they could really use him as a return man. The Lions depth at WR behind Calvin Johnson is really weak, so they needed to address this position in the draft. But it seems like they drafted him a couple rounds too early.

They might strike gold with one of their later picks, but it's hard to expect anyone drafted outside top 100 players overall to be an impact player.

The more I look at this draft class, the less I like it. If Stafford and Pettigrew are future Pro Bowlers, then it's a good (maybe great) draft. But I'm not high on any of their top 5 picks except Pettigrew.

And as Sean points out, new GM Martin Mayhew doesn't represent a break from the Matt Millen era, but a continuation of it:

I will just say that I am furious with the promotion of Lewand and Mayhew.  Both are from the Millen era and need to be relieved of their duties as well.  No offense to Mayhew especially, but it's time to get some new faces in the front office.

Maybe it is the beginning of an improved Lions franchise. But it's more of the same; a weak draft class, signing pointless free agents like WR Keary Colbert, and a Millen inspired front office. Now they need to make a horrible trade, like when they gave away DT Shaun Rogers, and it will be like Millen never left. The Lions look like they're still at least one more front office change away from providing the Packers some real competition.

 

Poll
What draft grade do you give to Detroit's 2009 class?
A
68 votes
B
211 votes
C
164 votes
D
54 votes
F
26 votes

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detroit's current losing streak started in Glendale Arizona

I think they ended that game with -27 rushing yards.

Thats when the Cardinals defense started getting respect!

by CardsDefense on May 15, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Pretty bad draft IMO

I’m not sure how they could go through the first 3 rounds without drafting help for their offensive or defensive lines.

by mittens on May 15, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I Agree

If Matt Stafford doesn’t deliver by himself, what do they have?

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by Tkopa on May 15, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Delevy is 10Lbs low butt hey will beef him.

Slow: He had a bad ankle at the combine.

Private pro day numbers from Scouts.inc. rank versus combine.

40 yard: 4.5 #1; Curry 4.56 #2
Three cone: 7.12 #10 ; Cushing 6.84 #2; Curry 7.15 #11
Short Shuttle: 4.12 #1; Freeman 4.12 #1
Vertical: 35.5 #4; Curry, Follet, Freeman 37.0 #1
Broad 10’ 3" #2; Curry 10.4 #1

I think Detroit drafted an athelete who will move into a role.

Sammie lee hill 6’4’ 329lbs a project with increadible explosion; the only d lineman over 275Lbs to break 9’ in the broad jump.

Lydon Murtha: OL 6’7" 306:
40 yard: 4.89 #1; Meredith 5.03 #2
Three cone: 7.06 #1 ; Fulton 7.35 #2
Short Shuttle: 4.34 #1; Shipley 4.40 #2
Vertical: 35.0 #2; Bright 35.5 #1
Broad 9’ 2" #3; Caldwell 9’ 3" #1

Gronkowski: TE 6’6" 255:
40 yard: 4.68 #3;
Bench 20 #3
Three cone: 6.92 #2 ;
Short Shuttle: 4.26 #2;
Vertical: 33.0 #6;
Broad 10’ 2" #2;

If they did not get the number one ranked guy at the position;
Stafford
Pettigrew
Delmas

They tried to get the #1 athelete at his position to develop;
Levy
Sammie lee hill
Murtha
Gronkowski

Intresting new philosophy.

by oilerbear on May 15, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

That is an interesting philosophy

I try to downplay the combine numbers myself because I’m interested how a guy played on the field in college. How he performed over a weekend at an NFL combine just provides some extra information. So selecting several players based on what they might do, based on combine results which is just secondary information, is foolish. I’m not disagreeing with you in any way; I’m just disagreeing with Detroit’s front office.

I can see the attraction of taking risks in the later rounds for guys with high upside, but I don’t agree with it.

by Brandon on May 18, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lions fan here

Thought I’d establish that right away. I like to think it doesn’t color my judgment of management’s decisions too much. I too have some serious reservations about a couple of the players they drafted this year (Levy, Williams) that are similar to those you mentioned above.
That said, I have to take issue with your thoughts on Stafford. Specifically this statement:

He’s a combine superstar who doesn’t play like it on the field.

I had a somewhat heated discussion with a couple of members of the Lions blog, Pride of Detroit, while the fan base was locked in the draft him/don’t draft him debate. I made a comparison of his college statistics to those of Matt Ryan that I personally found eye-opening while researching it. Check it out.
Now, I get that there are major concerns with any highly-drafted QB that go beyond statistics and college performance, but I don’t feel the questioning of Stafford’s performance is particularly warranted. As I think the numbers show, he played the way a top-notch QB should in a difficult division. This is especially true if you consider the fact that, during much of his time at Georgia, he was playing behind a weak O-line and rarely had much time to make a decision before getting rid of the ball.
I, personally, am very happy with the Stafford pick. I think that he has all of the tools and potential needed to be a true on-field leader and a “franchise quarterback”. The only question mark I have about him is about how the team will handle him. As with any QB, this is what could make or break him. Us Detroit fans just have to hope the Lions brass learned their lesson from Joey “Blue Skies” Harrington.

by AZ Yooper on May 15, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

"He's a combine superstar"

I’ll agree that’s a harsh comment to just make, and obviously I could be very wrong. So I’ll tell you where I’m coming from.
1. Every time I saw him on ESPN, the highlight and the commentary made it seem like I was watching The Natural. Stafford’s got the build, the arm, and athleticism of a great NFL quarterback. I thought I heard someone say during the draft that he predicted Stafford would be the No. 1 overall pick one day when he was only a Georgia recruit and hadn’t played a day of college football yet. He got an A during the NFL combine and any other personal workout he did.
2. I based Stafford’s college performance on this article by David Lewin at Football Outsiders. He even explains why you can’t compare Stafford and Matt Ryan. The most damning comparison was with David Greene, who was a very successful college QB and a lousy pro.

by Brandon on May 18, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did very well

I thought the Lions helped themselves a TON in the draft. I love Pettigrew, Delmas, Levy. Don’t sleep on Levy he was more of a speed LB at UW, he’ll add weight and keep that speed, he could be a special player. I gave them a B and if Stafford produces then I think their draft could be a A+. For the most part I was impressed with all of the NFC North teams drafts, besides the Vikes.

by packallday555 on May 18, 2009 1:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Lions fan here

Mayhew inherited a huge mess, it’s going to take a few drafts to recover from the Millen debacle. I’m not thrilled with a couple of choices, but overall I’d give the Lions a C. If Stafford pans out, the skys the limit. Loved the Pettigrew and Delmas picks, would’ve liked to have seen more defense, though.
I thought the Packers had a great draft, which pisses me off ;-)

by JazzyBBP on May 18, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I gave them a B....

I liked what they did overall. You can argue that maybe Stafford was a reach as the #1 overall, but an 0-16 team that is trying to rebrand absolutely has to take a franchise QB, and most everyone had him as a top 5-10 player anyway so it’s not liked they reached too much. I remember thinking when they were on the clock for their 2nd pick, are they going to get Stafford a weapon, or are they going to get someone to protect him? Well, a TE in that spot, who was the #1 TE in the draft according to just about everybody, actually does both. He will give Stafford a target over the middle and in the red zone, and if he’s as good a blocker as everyone projected he should help keep some pressure off him as well.

I do agree with some of the previous comments that they should’ve done more on defense or on the offensive and defensive lines, but they’ll have to address that in the next few years. I kind of hope the Lions get better; it will go along way to making the NFC a great division, and even though they might get better and beat us every now and then they should beat the Lions & Bears twice as often.

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by Adam P on May 18, 2009 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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