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Favre on HBO with Joe Buck

I had zero interest in ever watching Joe Buck Live on HBO but then Joe landed the annual QB Brett Favre-I'm-Coming-Out-Of-Retirement-Interview for his inaugural show, so I'll guess I'll watch at least one episode of it. Monday, June 15th, and 9pm (ET/PT).

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I like Joe, though I don’t know if this show will be good.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Jun 15, 2009 1:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate Joe and I’m quite sure the show will suck, though I certainly respect everyone else’s opinion. October is such a crappy month cause it seems wherever I turn Joe Buck is there. Football, baseball, you just can’t escape him

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Jun 15, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm up and down on Joe

I actually like him better doing football than his “native” baseball. The fact that he’s completely indifferent to announcing when a good defensive play occurs completely irks me, but besides that I have no problem with his football announcing abilities.

His comments about finding anything other than pennant race and post season baseball boring was approaching just about the height of snootiness.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jun 15, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe

I’m indifferent on Joe Buck… I’m not indifferent on BF!!! My question is this…

Will Joe Buck ask the difficult questions?! Or will he pull a Greta and give Favre the easy way out? If he asks the difficult questions and grills Favre on his motives and desire to “stick it to” Thompson, then Bucks status w/ me goes up alot!

Either way Favre will be lying his A$$ off! Not all that interested in the interview though I may watch it. Easy to predict how BF will answer the questions…

by Strohman on Jun 15, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Favre

Brett may be selfish but apparently…… so are some of the fans!

by packersinNC on Jun 15, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How Is It Selfish To Support Your Team Over A Whiny, Self-Centered Prick

I’m not even a Green Bay fan, but frankly I hope the Packers get three INTs off of him then knock him out of the game. Since Mike Holmgren left Green Bay Brett Favre has been, bar none, the most overrated QB in the NFL and he’s taken far more than he’s ever given to Packers fans.

I completely agree with Ted Simmons Speed Camp…Favre has proven he doesn’t give a damn about any of the fans in Green Bay, even when he was still playing there, and it’s not at all selfish to hope he embarasses the hell out of himself when he returns. Heck, it’s not even selfish to refuse to accept him as a Packer…one Super Bowl win does not come close to being equivalent to the contempt and disrespect he’s shown for one of the better fan bases in football (after the Chiefs, of course).

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 15, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flip-Side

Time does heal all wounds and it’s understandable that people would eventually forgive him too. Just saying that there’s no reason to berate the people who don’t….Favre’s earned the animosity.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 15, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brett Bashing

How is bashing Brett Favre supporting your team. Brett is history in Green Bay. It’s time to let it go & move on just like the Packers did.

by packersinNC on Jun 16, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll let it go when Brett does.

Actually, I’ll let it go AGAIN when Brett does, because I rooted for him, hard, when he was a Jet.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 16, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

It’s because Favre isn’t letting it go. He’s done everything short of kidnapping Goodell’s kids to get himself to Minnesota, the Packers’ division rival, just so he can play against them…including lying, backstabbing, blackmail, and fake retiring. If any Packers fans want to bash Favre for his behavior they’re completely justified in doing so…Favre’s already shown he doesn’t care about them.

Frankly, I kind of wonder how you can say that giving Favre a pass is somehow supporting the Packers. Favre’s trying to play for your rivals…he hasn’t got anything to do with your organization any more and has, in fact, shown a considerable amount of contempt for your organization in his behavior the last two years. No player is bigger than the team, and people who chide other Packers fans for not continuing to worship Favre are putting him above the team.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 16, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

favre worshipping

Go ahead…..bash away! What good does it do you? Farve is gone and so what if it is for the Vikings. No fear…..I have faith in the Packers and I don’t have to spit on Brett Farve to prove it.

I will say that I don’t agree with your comment about Brett’s behavior over the past 2 years because I wasn’t on the team. Were you? Everything is media & total speculation. There is 2 sides to every story & then the truth. I admit, I didn’t care for every decision that Brett made but I didn’t care for every decision that the Packers made either. At this point, it’s really not worth dwelling on any of it.

I do think that those that move on with the Packers by letting go of all of this Farve bashing nonsense is what really shows support for the Packers. Turn the other cheek and back the Pack. Otherwise, you really give the Vikings the upperhand by letting them crawl under your skin with Brett as their QB.

by packersinNC on Jun 16, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Wasn’t on the team, just listened to the same interviews everyone else did where he complained how it was unfair that the Packers were holding him to the contract he signed (like he blasted Javon Walker for trying to get out of two years earlier) and where he complained that Ted Thompson was too arrogant to let Favre tell him how to do his job.

By the way, trying to discredit someone’s argument by saying “Well, you weren’t on the team so you have no credibility” is a pretty pathetic tactic on a fan blog…by sheer virtue of you showing up to post your comments you’re showing how little you care about that argument when it comes to your own opinions. So let’s not be hypocritical and try and shout down what others have to say with that line of crap. Frankly, it’s a tactic for losers who can’t hold their own in a debate and one of the great things about SB Nation is that there are very few of those on these boards…I’d hope you’’re not one of them.

I do think that those that move on with the Packers by letting go of all of this Farve bashing nonsense is what really shows support for the Packers. Turn the other cheek and back the Pack. Otherwise, you really give the Vikings the upperhand by letting them crawl under your skin with Brett as their QB.

Now that’s actually a much better argument and I think a valid point about fan support. I can agree with that.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 16, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hypocritical

I think Brett cares about his fans but I don’t think he gives a rat’s a$$ about his critics. He has enough of both. With that being said, I think it’s totally ridiculous to bash a player over & over when it’s not going to change one d#&n thing. I haven’t walked in Brett’s shoes nor do I care too. However, I’m not going to act as though I know everything there is to know about the situation based on a few interviews, etc. I know what he said in some of those interviews. So what?! He changed his mind. So…..what are we to do about that? Nothing! I just think Packer fans need to rise above this Farve scenerio and just move on. I’m not trying to shout down anyone. I, like you, have an opinion. If you are a Packer fan, you are a Packer fan & nothing that Brett Farve does will change that. So….why continue with the bashing when in all honesty……it isn’t factual information.

by packersinNC on Jun 16, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hypocritical?

You keep using that word…I do not think it means what you think it means.

Hypocritical would be me bashing Favre for being a self-absorbed jackass, then cheering him because he signed with my team. I’m just bashing him for being a self-absorbed jackass…which isn’t hypocritical in the slightest. You on the other hand, don’t appear to have any actual arguments…you’re just pathologically bitching at people who don’t like Favre, which is frankly not interesting enough to waste any more of my time with. Have a good one.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 17, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meaning of hypocritical.....you've got to be kidding!

I absolutely know the meaning of hypocritical and if you look at the context in which I used it; I wasn’t calling anyone here hypocritical. Unlike you, I have no problem with those that have a different opinion than my own. The word was simply pulled from the comment in which I was replying which happened to be yours. Nothing more than a title for my comment. WOW!!!!

by packersinNC on Jun 17, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SB Nation

I’m sorry…..I thought the purpose of SB Nation was to provide a place for fans to have high quality conversation regarding the teams that they are passionate about. Looking back at your comments, the only thing you seem to be passionate about is name calling, insulting, and adding to all the trash talk surrounding the Favre frenzy. My point is……why bother? Personally, I don’t care what Brett Favre did, has done, or will do. What matters is how the Packers play the game on game day. By concerning yourself with all the Favre crap, you come off as a person that is a bit threatened by the possibility / probability that Brett may become a Viking which to me does not show support for the Packers. Oh…..I forgot, you aren’t even a Packer fan. Fine…..hate him. Who cares? Personally, I can be passionate enough about the Packers surviving without Brett Favre that I don’t have to stoop to the level of pi$$ing and moaning about what Brett has done or will do with his life. With that being said, I’m also mature enough to wish him well in whatever direction he chooses to take…..not because it’s Brett Favre but because I have confidence in the Packers. Brett is one man in the NFL. I think it’s more important to discuss things that matter and for me, it’s not Brett did this – Brett did that – I will never forgive him BS. Football is a competition. For me, the thrill reaches a much higher level when the competition is tight and your team is on top. If Brett plays for the Vikings, it will only mean a better football game come Sunday and or Monday night. Tougher division if Brett puts on purple & gold……so what! The Packers are big boys; I think they can take it. What messages are sent to the beloved Packers when it seems as though some fans doubt the Packers ability to win over the Vikings if Brett Favre is part of the Vikings. Man up for Christ sake!!! The Packers made the decision to move on. How long can you sit back & blame Brett’s personality, motives, decisions, etc. for the future of the Packers. For whatever the reason, the Packer’s / Favre’s marriage ended. It’s over ! Brett is one man…..not a team; it takes a team to win. If the Vikings win the division this year, they are a better team (with or without Brett Favre). If the Packers win the division this year, they are a better team (with or without Brett Favre). It works both ways. The blame game gets old and so does the constant name bashing……rise above!

by packersinNC on Jun 17, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I thought the purpose of SB Nation was to provide a place for fans to have high quality conversation regarding the teams that they are passionate about. Looking back at your comments, the only thing you seem to be passionate about is name calling"

Hmmmm. Interesting comment given your first comment in this thread:

“Brett may be selfish but apparently…… so are some of the fans!”

How exactly was that “high quality conversation” and not the equivalent of “name calling.”

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 17, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are missing the point

First and foremost, the comment in regards to name calling was meant for UCrawford which seems to fill his threads with name calling & insults as a way of conversation. With that being said, I still think that fans that hate Favre for playing for another team & or not staying retired is being selfish. Selfishness is a behavior. It’s not as though I said " Packer fans are selfish self-absorbed jacka$$es." If I had made a statement like that, that would definitely be name calling & lacking as “high quality conversation”. My whole point which a couple of you seem to be missing is that we need to stay focused on the Packers because whatever happens with Favre is going to happen. Fine…..if you hate him, resent him, blame him, etc. ….is it really necessary to continue with the bashing. I just wish Packer fans would rise above the Brett Favre drama. Enough said.

by packersinNC on Jun 17, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I didn’t call you names…I made comments about Favre then you started in with the straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks and the name calling (when you called me a hypocrite). Frankly, if you’re looking for people to label hypocrites just look in the mirror, sport. Assuming you can see your own reflection through that picture of Favre you’ve probably got plastered on it.

Actually, if you’ve got a picture of Favre in your mirror that’ll work too if you’re looking for hypocrites. His picture should probably be in the dictionary next to the word. Especially considering how he whined about the Packers holding him to his contract only a couple of years after he threw Javon Walker under the bus for doing the same thing. Matter of fact, I’d go so far as to say that among active players Brett Favre is quite possibly the biggest hypocrite in the NFL.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 17, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

difficult to argue with you about the Javon Walker thing

but Brett plays by a different set of rules than anyone other player in the league apparently.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Jun 18, 2009 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sport

UCrawford….would you please show me one passage where I called you a hypocrite? The word was simply used as a title to my comment which was in reply to your thread. Gee…..if I had known it would cause all this crap, I would have elected to pull another word from your thread instead. By the way, this time I pulled the word “sport” from your thread. Again, I’m not calling you one.

by packersinNC on Jun 18, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I'm not missing the point.

I just think you’re wrong.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 18, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s pathetic !!!!!

by packersinNC on Jun 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it doesn't appear that anyone here is blaming Brett for the "future of the packers" as you put it.

I dont blame him for the 6-10 season last year and if you actually read my comments, you’ll see that I don’t fear him in a Vikings uniform. And no, since he’s the one who made it personal, I don’t think that responding in kind is BS, as you put it in your “high quality” way. I’m perfectly ok with the fact that you disagree, I just think your responses and explanations why you disagree in this thread have been exceptionally weak.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 17, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again

The reply was meant for UCrawford. My responses and explanations are quote “weak” because the comment in which I replied was “weak”. Like I said in the beginning…..none of this nonsense with name bashing makes any sense. It’s just negative energy that could be used in a more positive way.

by packersinNC on Jun 17, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh
My responses and explanations are quote "weak" because the comment in which I replied was "weak". Like I said in the beginning…..none of this nonsense with name bashing makes any sense. It’s just negative energy that could be used in a more positive way.

Right…I can see how you ooze “positivity”.

Refresh my memory…who was it who called Packers fans “selfish”, you or me?

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 17, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

selfish

Wow…..you are really searching if you are considering that one statement about a fan sounding selfish in his thread as name calling. You’ve got to be kidding. Did Johnny steal your candy too? How old are you?

by packersinNC on Jun 18, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with that being said

In life, all human beings are selfish to some degree. I don’t think Packer fans & Brett Favre belong to an exclusive club where they are any different than the rest of us. We are all human & selfishness is a behavior that none of us are above experiencing at some point in our lives. The difference is our faces / names aren’t plastered all over the media, etc. for others to judge and or criticize.

by packersinNC on Jun 18, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one is doubting the Packers ability to beat the Vikings with Favre

It has to do with him turning his back and essentially giving the middle finger to all of the fans who have supported him throughout the years and not caring about what effect that will have on his fans.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Jun 18, 2009 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

middle finger

That’s just it……..your thread is as though you are speaking for ALL of the Packer fans. Not ALL Packer fans feel that Brett essentially gave them the middle finger. Some Packer fans are open-minded enough to see both sides and go on with their lives while continuing to support the Packers. I have no problem with those fans that no matter what …………they hate Brett. I can respect that. It’s the on & on & on b$&ching about how big a p#%ck he is that drives me crazy. Give it a rest already. I guess hating him isn’t enough; I guess they need to be heard over & over again. Just like T.O., I get tired of hearing the same crap about him. Everyone knows his behavior……why go on & on & on about it. It doesn’t have to be about Brett Favre; it can be about any athelete. It just gets old & it comes a point in time when you just have to say the h#ll with it & move on. That is all I have been trying to say here…….

by packersinNC on Jun 18, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you really have a problem with folks irritated by Brett and voicing that opinion...

… then why are you in this thread at all? Seriously, what did you expect? And, since you’re the one constantly using this phrase, since you know there are folks out there who are willing to rip Favre for how he’s behaving even though you wish they wouldn’t, why can’t you just move on and let it go? I, for you, find your arguments as “old” and wish you’d stop making them. You feel the same way about mine. Fine by me. But I don’t understand why it is you keep coming back if you find the criticism of Favre in this thread so intolerable.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 18, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expected intelligent conversation

I thought this thread was meant to be about the HBO interview. I believe it was titled “Favre on HBO with Joe Buck”. I thought it would be more intelligent conversation instead of blah, blah, blah. Perhaps, you should have started a new thread titled “Let’s b—ch about Favre” . You wouldn’t find me there because b—ching about Favre is just a waste of time & honestly, it shows lack of character. My question is….why aren’t you moving on? You obviously find it necessary to reply to my quote “old” arguments even when they are meant for UCrawford. Take your own advice…..move on!

by packersinNC on Jun 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was.

If you look at my original post, it was about my reaction to the Favre interview. Then you started complaining about people complaining about Favre, and off we went.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 19, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"everything is media and total speculation"

… that’s exactly what Cubs fans always told me when I said that Sosa was on steroids. Until yesterday.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 17, 2009 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sosa

The cub fans wanted facts…..not hearsay & media speculation. Now, the Cub fans have the facts (medical reports).

by packersinNC on Jun 17, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I was still right, wasn't I?

And I wasn’t ignoring my common sense the way they were out of fan-love for a guy who was less than his image made him out to be.

Hmmmm….

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boys, boys, boys!

Take a breather.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Jun 17, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TSSC, that may be one of the best comments I’ve seen about this situation in a while. Favre does have the right to do as he wishes, and we, as fans, do have the right to feel the way we do.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Jun 15, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ssssssssssssssss

Ow! That one burned!

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell_M on Jun 15, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

After I read the transcript, I felt the same way. I wanted to write an article ripping Favre to shreds for ever betraying the fans in Green Bay. But he’s got every right to play for Minnesota and to keep playing football for as long as he still can.

Although I think I’ll forgive him for becoming a Viking, I hope the Packers beat the snot out of him twice next season.

by Brandon on Jun 16, 2009 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

An intelligent point of view.

by packersinNC on Jun 17, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With all respect

At this point, a mediocre QB is still an upgrade for us at the position.

And yeah, a lot of us Viking fans are in the reverse position as you. We can’t let go of Favre as a Packer. But I don’t think it cuts us nearly as deep as it will to you.

When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.

by Robert Rence on Jun 16, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting...

… and I agree that Favre would be an upgrade for you. I don’t think anyone disputes that.

If Packer fans can live with McMahon as a Packer (which we did) I bet Viking fans can accept Favre as a Viking. Of course, the punky QB was only our back up QB, so we didn’t have to think about him too often.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 16, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brett

It really shouldn’t matter where Brett plays or what his motives are for coming back. It doesn’t matter how many times he retired or how tired we are of hearing of his retirement / unretirement. Bottom line, Brett did go back to Green Bay. He was too late…..they wanted to move on. No one will ever know what occurred in GB between Brett & Ted except them two. Therefore, everything here is really speculation. It really drives me crazy when people say that Brett will ruin his legacy or how he will let the fans down if he plays for the Vikings. You can’t change anything that he has accomplished over the years just as you can’t change all of the interceptions, etc. Personally, I don’t think Brett should roll over & die; GB didn’t want him. Brett is a competitor and speculation is that the Thompson conflict is why he wants to play for the Vikings. I don’t totally agree although I’m sure it plays a part in the madness. Regardless of what has happened or will happen, what Brett has accomplished will never be erased…..the good or the bad. His legacy will live on!

by packersinNC on Jun 15, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see you back

I will be disappointed if Favre signs with the Vikes but will still have my good memories of his time with the Pack. I think that while the Vikes situation is a good fit for him in his own eyes, the “he’s just a competitor” schtick (not directed at you btw) is garbage. If he just wanted to compete he should have just stayed with the Jets, who had a good season that could have ended better if he had played better at the tail end of the season.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Jun 15, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His comparison of himself to Lombardi really chapped my ass.

I’m not old enough to remember the Lombardi teams, but Favre won one title. One. I’m grateful for it and grateful I got to see it. The difference between coaches/GM’s and QB’s aside, his resume doesn’t match Lombardi’s. He’s probably right to expect that he’ll get the same reverence as Lombardi. He’s just wrong to think he deserves it.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 15, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

the comparison is a very poor one anyway but to even bring up Lombardi is so unbelievably arrogant its shocking. Does he think they are gonna rename the trophy the Favre Trophy? I wouldn’t be shocked anymore if he suggested that

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Jun 16, 2009 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

competitor

Brett is 40; he loves to play football but like all football players, he has his eye on the ultimate prize……winning the SuperBowl. He is a competitor but he doesn’t have time to build with a team like the Jets. Not to mention, it seemed to be animosity in the Jets locker room (LC, etc.) because everyone knew Brett wouldn’t be there to build with the team. He was a short timer and many were still angry about the Pennington trade. Regardless, Brett came out strong, learning a new offense in a short amount of time and was a possible runner for MVP until the shoulder incident. Regardless of what many think, I believe that when he couldn’t play for GB; he just wanted to be part of a team that could possibly go all the way. He wanted the same talent surrounding him as in GB. If he couldn’t play with GB, I think he at least wanted to play against them. Call it selfish , call it revenge, call it what you like but I think he wanted the ultimate prize with GB or without GB. When GB didn’t want him back, that didn’t change his desire to try to win another SuperBowl. If given the opportunity, he would have played with GB & ended his career in GB but for the franchise and the fans to expect him to forget his dream to win another SuperBowl and force him to stay retired…..that’s abit selfish. I can understand & respect the Packers decision to move on. However, I don’t think any fan or franchise should predict when a football player’s career should end. I think that is an individual decision. One day, all of us will be dead and gone but Brett’s legacy will live on for future generations to make their own decisions as to who was to blame for Brett ending his career with another team. I think Brett should do what makes him happy because you can’t make everyone happy regardless of what you do. Considering that some have posted that Brett was just a mediocre QB, I would think those fans that hate him would be happy that he has moved on. For the life of me, I just don’t understand how bashing Brett Favre somehow shows more support for the Packers. Wish him well and continue backing your team……..move on! What’s so hard about that?

by packersinNC on Jun 16, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again...

… I don’t dispute that he’s got every right to do what he’s doing. But I’ve got every right to hold it against him when he purposely chooses to play (first last year and now this year, though last year he didn’t get his way) to play for a team that he knows will hurt GB the most. I’m not the only one who’s taking the whole thing personally, because Favre admitted again last night that he took the end of his career with GB personally, which amounts to a tacit admission that he wants to play for the Vikes for revenge. He’s got every right to do that, and I’ve got every right to dislike him for it. If he changes his mind, I’ll forget it and cheer him when he comes back to cash his check just like everyone else. He takes one snap as a Viking and I’ll never forgive him for it.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 16, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Faith

How does Brett playing for the Vikings hurt GB the most? Have faith in the Packers! Way too much energy spent on has been, could of been, should of been,etc.

I saw the interview last night; I don’t recall him saying that he took it personally. I do recall him saying that GB decided to move on and that was OK. He’s moving on and that’s OK. He’s right!

Sad to live a life with so much dislike towards a single person.

by packersinNC on Jun 16, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm not permitted to judge Favre on this single decision...

… but you’re allowed to conclude that my life is sad? Seems a bit out of whack to me.

It’ll hurt this franchise the most because they’re the best team in our division and it’s an upgrade for them. It’s not a question of having faith in the Packers or not, it’s a question of common sense.

And if you don’t believe me, read Aaron Brandt’s piece on nationalfootballpost.com. On the question of whether Favre wants to join the Vikings to get revenge, his response was of course he does, and Brandt’s in a better position to know that either of us.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 16, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

single decision

You can judge Farve however you please……everyone has an opinion and you are definitely entitled to your own opinion. I just don’t see where it’s beneficial to carry that much dislike for any human being whether it’s Brett Farve or the man on the moon. What good does it do? You can’t change the present, past, or future of the Packer organization, the Vikings, and or Brett Farve. Sooo……why care if Brett wants revenge. In the big scheme of things, what does it matter. Life goes on and the Packers go on.

by packersinNC on Jun 16, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I appreciate your advice,

though I think your motivations have little to do with an actual belief that its personally unproductive for myself or anyone else to hold a grudge against Favre if he plays for the Vikings and a lot more to do with your apparent willingness to throw roses at him regardless of what he does. Truth is, though, that while you’re entitled to your opinion, I’m also entitled to think it’s laughable. And I do.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 17, 2009 6:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

grudge -vs- roses

I don’t care whether you hold a grudge or throw roses. The fact is…..it doesn’t make a difference either way. LOL :)

by packersinNC on Jun 17, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does to me.

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 17, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh Huh

I’m sure that’s why you’re continuing to snipe at people who criticize Favre for his behavior…because you think it doesn’t make a difference.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 17, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its nice to see that your position hasn’t changed since last year. The crux of your argument always boils down to “He’s Brett freakin Favre! How could he do anything wrong?”

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Jun 18, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no change

Yes, I still like Brett. I also like the Packers. Why does it have to be one way or the other with some of you people? Again…..rise above the saga.

by packersinNC on Jun 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't.

You’re welcome to your opinion and we’re welcome to ours. Just accept that and “let it go.”

i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 18, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“The fact is…..it doesn’t make a difference either way.”
That’s what you say, yet, here you are, on this thread 23 times slamming and/or arguring with Packers fans whose opinion on Favre is different from yours; thus, demonstrating just how much “it doesn’t make a difference” to you!
Here comes that ugly word, ‘hypocritical’, again.
BTW, if it is okay for you to criticize people for opining negatively about [F-word], then, certainly, it is okay for people to criticize you for doing so.

The Bears still suck; The 'Queens take it a step further.
And the Lions couldn't beat The Little Sisters of the Poor!

by NorthStarr on Jun 19, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre was Favre

caught it on Vikings cast the daily norsemen it was live and Brett will be back and trying to run it up when he plays us cant wait to see him fail

by Larry47 on Jun 15, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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