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Ramifications Of The Favre Signing

Well, "tentative" signing.  First off, let's look sat what people have been saying over the past few weeks...

"We realize, like he did, that when training camp came around that it was in or out and we're very happy with what we have here."

-Minnesota owner Zygi Wilf

"He's gone his way, and we're going our way."

- Minnesota coach Brad Childress

"We have to throw this out the window. At least the circus is over. We can have peace of mind. We've been put through the wringer. But it is what it is."

- Minnesota TE Visanthe Shiancoe

"I have firm faith in our management and our coaching staff that once camp starts and we don’t have a decision then I’m pretty sure it’s going to be dropped, it’s going to be over with and we’re going to move forward with the guys that we have."

- Minnesota DE Jared Allen

"Where does it leave us?  It doesn't leave us nowhere.  We move on."

- Minnesota RB Adrian Peterson

"I'm happy it's over with and it's good it happened before training camp to give us an extra day to catch our breath."

- Minnesota QB Sage Rosenfels

And the most recent (and my personal favorite),

No, no, no, no, no.  The Favre thing is over, even if folks like Glazer are still relying on him to draw attention to their articles.  There's no going back from the moment in the end of July when Favre told the Vikings he wanted to stay in retirement -- he's more than welcome to play for another team, but just not the Vikings.

Daily Norseman's Anthony21

Star-divide

Let's plow through this, bullet-point style, with regard to everyone connected to the latest turn in Favregeddon:

  • Zygi Wilf looks desperate.  With the current economy, looming stadium issues (including the fight for a new one), and a fanbase that hated Favre for 17 years (including a spike during this summer), Wilf needs a short-term boost.  That boost turns out to be shelling out an 8-figure salary for what figures to be a one-year deal.  Look for an increase in both ticket prices and revenue in the next few weeks.

    That said, Wilf made the obvious choice.  He's wanted Favre for a long time, and now he's got him.
  • Sage Rosenfels and Tarvaris Jackson have to be pissed now, if they weren't before when the Favre talk started.  They dealt with it in their own way, with Rosenfels saying all the right things and Jackson saying barely anything at all, but I cannot fathom what they're feeling right now.

    For Sage, who was a part-time starter in Houston last year, I would feel somewhat betrayed.  After all, the team traded for him, not the other way around.  And it was he who started the first preseason game and put up good numbers.  And yes, he hurt his ankle, but it's not a serious injury.  So why is the team's first reaction to renege on their stance regarding Favre?  Suddenly that fourth-round pick looks like a huge steal for the Texans, who received the draft choice for a player who might not even play a single snap this year.

    For Tarvaris, the feeling of betrayal and abandonment must be much stronger.  He was the favored son of Brad Childress, who lobbied for him to be drafted in the 2nd round when he was slotted to go in the 4th.  And when Tarvaris played poorly or got injured, Childress always had his back.  Now, it feels like the coaching staff has given up on him.
  • Leading Viking veterans, including Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen, and Antoine Winfield, must feel good about themselves.  After all, they openly lobbied for Favre to sign, both showing their commitment to improving the team by any means necessary and their disdain for the quarterbacks they had on the roster.

    Unfortunately, these leaders are in the minority.  There's 53 players on a gameday roster, and this elite group only makes up five or six individuals.  The rest of the players have thus far dealt with the three-month courtship of Favre, then accepted that he wouldn't sign and put their faith in the spirit of competition.  After all, Tarvaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels were brought in to compete for the starting job, which is the fairest way to determine the starter.

    But in waltzes Favre, and out marches the respect of the Vikings' proletariat.  Just because they're not leaders of the caliber of Allen or Winfield doesn't mean they won't share their opinions with their peers.  Just look at Bobby Wade.

    Any leader will tell you that the key to success is unity.  Right now, I have severe doubts on whether or not the Viking locker room can achieve any kind of unity, especially if Lord Favre resorts to his individualist tendencies that caused so much tension in the Jets' locker room.
  • Brad Childress easily comes out looking the worst in this situation.  He has ruined whatever credibility he had over this last summer.  First he supported the quarterbacks he had.  Then he cast his lot in with Favre, who backed off.  But that's alright, Childress was perfectly content with Jackson and Rosenfels, to the point of publicly declaring that Favre's decision was final for Minnesota.

    Now, all the waffling he's done will come back to haunt him because he wouldn't stand firm to what he said a few weeks ago.  Those players cannot take Childress at his word, because his word means nothing.  Add that to his well-documented list of faults as a head coach, and you've got the ingredients for a mutiny.
  • As for Brett Favre himself?  I already made my feelings on him clear, but I'll take a sampling of my own writing:

This past summer revealed Brett Favre for the monster he has turned into: an attention-loving homewrecker that cannot stand to be away of the spotlight and out of mainstream conversation.  He nearly brought the Packers to their knees in 2007, which would have robbed us of Aaron Rodgers in 2008 and beyond.  He conned the New York Jets into thinking he was their savior until his 39-year old body broke down.  And now he has disrupted the offseason of another team, which is even more egregious with Tavaris Jackson's recent knee injury and Sage Rosenfels' reported inability to learn the offense.

At this point, it's too soon to tell any of these things.  Everything is speculation until Favre suits up and puts in the work he's tried so hard to avoid.  I will say one thing: I cannot wait to read Viking fan Drew Magary's response, after this little doozy not more than three weeks ago.

Mark your calendars for  both October 5th and November 1st, 2009.  Favre as a Viking playing his old team on ESPN?  I'm pretty sure that's Bristol HQ's ultimate fantasy, as long as they can use flex scheduling to usurp the Nov. 1 game from Fox.

It's going to get a little crazy out there.  Brace yourselves.

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Congrats.

You’re the 4,524th person to point out today that I’m an ass. ;)

by Anthony21 on Aug 18, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I think this is a great day for the Minnesota Vikings. See you folks on October 5th.

by Anthony21 on Aug 18, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anthony

I read your post yesterday, and thought “If Glazer is right, this guy is going to get crucified for this post”. After today’s news I had to go see the reaction. Ah well, hang in there.

I have reached the point where I am completely neutral on Favre. Last year, I didn’t really care what he did after the Pack went with Rodgers, as long as he didn’t sign with a division rival. This year, I honestly do not care what he does, and it’s not sour grapes. I’m happy with our QB, and I’m detatched from Favre. I’m actually looking forward to the show.

Brett Favre is the enemy now, but no more than Darren Sharper (who I hoped would get burned trying to jump a route) or Ryan Longwell ( who I hope will shank a FG).

by grant76 on Aug 18, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

May BJ smash this stupid fuckers face in at Lambeau

i'll delete your SSS existence in a second. there is nothing that allows SSS posters, at any one moment, to keep posting, but the mere pleasure of larry.
-larry

by blackoutsox on Aug 18, 2009 1:28 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

as is your response

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Aug 18, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It is typical.

Typical of the overzealous, self-important sports fan who puts WAY, WAAAAAY too much stock in something that is supposed to be a weekend enjoyment to take one’s mind off of the reality of everyday life but instead has become something that defines them and causes them so much frustration that they feel it important to write that they wish harm on another person because of something that they perceive was done to their favorite sports team.

It’s pretty embarrassing, actually.

"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."

by Themanthemyththelegend on Aug 18, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

better than going on a sports blog for a team you don’t care and are ignorant of (your words, I believe) simply to stir up shit. which is more embarrassing, actually?

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Aug 18, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey look! It's you again!

You do realize stalking is illegal, right? Don’t make me report you!

"Remember kids......... petty and cheap shot-ish doesn't make you a true fan, it just makes you petty and cheap shot-ish."

by Themanthemyththelegend on Aug 18, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

well I’m a (fairly) regular around here so if showing up where I normally “digitally hang out” qualifies me as stalking you then ok.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You act like he's the first person to

ever respond to one of your comments twice.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Aug 18, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen!

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Aug 18, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

That makes my articles look like a big sack of crap. Easily one of the most eloquent (and succinct!) bits of opinion available on the interwebs.

"I'm so clean, cats think I sip Ajax."

by Mitchell Maurer on Aug 18, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

i wouldn’t call your articles sacks of crap Mitchell…but that is a great post

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Aug 18, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Well said, sir.

"I’ll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." -Sheriff Melvin appoints Deputy Braun

by spell on Aug 18, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very well said!

rec’d

Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge

by Bush League All Star on Aug 18, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha thanks everyone

It had been brewing up for awhile and I had to let it out.

by dishingoutdimes on Aug 18, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nicely done

You are not the only one who seems to feel that way… here is an excellent commentary that I found on the net about why the Favre signing could become a train wreck: Brett Favre Signing Analysis

by NYCPac on Aug 19, 2009 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Packers integrity...?

Teams try to win games. The Packers knew they had something in Rodgers that was going to be there for a long time. They knew he was good and could do the job. That is why they let Favre go. If they had kept Favre, it would be Rodgers signing with the Vikings this season. If Rodgers showed little promise, they would have resigned Favre no problem and attempted to make a run at it.

Don’t mistake integrity for basic common sense. They did what was in their best interest and Favre did the same. We blast him for skipping camps and such but if you were 40 and had the choice would you want to sit in a dorm in Mankato practicing a game you have already mastered over the last 30 years of your life? Selfishness? People talk about football like it is some kind of Samurai culture. I don’t look down on a man for taking what he can get and trying to maneuver himself into the best possible situation.

It seems convenient he wants to play for the rival but can you name another team in the NFL with 6 or more pro bowlers, defending divisional champs, and a desire to sign Favre? The Eagles are the only other team I can think of that Favre would consider. All the other good teams are basically set at QB. Ravens I guess could have been a possibility. But also figure in the Vikings have Favre’s buddy as O coordinator and a man he’s known for years at coach. And he gets to stick it to Thompson.

But seriously, if the Vikings had been 6-10 last year with a crap running game and crap defense do you really think Favre would be going there? Funny that came out as an unintentional slam against the Packers. I can’t believe I am actually defending Favre after hating the Packers for so many years. Always thought Favre was a good player and a solid guy but he definately is a little drama queen.

by Sand0 on Aug 19, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

we’ll see if you still think he’s mastered the game at the midway point of the season…or the final 4 games of the season when he is physically broken down like he has been the last couple of years. but i agree with most everything else you say.

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Aug 19, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was supposed...

…to be on a plane returning from the ACL Festival in Austin October 5th. Guess I need to change my flight….

by soliman on Aug 18, 2009 5:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I must say, WOOOOWWWWW. This man is relentlessly… incredulous. Just when you think it’s all over he has to jump right back onto his high horse back into the NFL.

Part of me thinks he was jealous of the media attention Vick was garnering and had to one up the dog fighting kingpin of the world. He saw Vick on 60 Minutes on Sunday night and was like, “Hey, I can do better than that. Just wait for Tuesday. I’ll show you, Mr. Vick.”

"I’ll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." -Sheriff Melvin appoints Deputy Braun

by spell on Aug 18, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

more than just part of me thinks that. how can we have the National Favre League without him? he’s probably surprised the NFL didn’t just fold after his last “retirement”

my guess for this season is that every Sunday after the game Brett will retire so he won’t have to practice and then on Saturday he will come out of retirement in time to play on Sunday. you think Chilly would stop him? i don’t

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Aug 18, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

best quote of the day...

Nick Barnett!!!!! “Would I like to hit him? Hell yeah I’d liket to hit him, all these damn practices out here and they didnt let us hit him. I want to get a nice little shot on you Brett. I said it, put it on the bulletin board.” - I cant wait for the games to come!!

by bizzle4 on Aug 18, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I like...

…how Barnett looked right into the camera when he said it. Classic!

by soliman on Aug 18, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

right after seeing it on ESPN i had to go to the website and just replaying his part to it numerous times!

by bizzle4 on Aug 18, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I get home tonight

The first thing I will NOT DO is turn on ESPN, local TV news, my computer, my radio (hell even Uecker will probably go on and on about him tonight), and my cell phone is going off. Well, maybe not the last one. But man, the national media is having a field day with this sh!t. Favre got his wish. He’s on top of the media world!

What I will do is fire up the ’ol grill, crack a beer, and maybe turn on some Mastodon.

By the way, I am really excited about the Packers this year! Even more we have a humble, hard working, leader-by-example, 25 year old QB who’s probably laughing at the Vikes right now! Can’t wait for the season to start and can’t wait for Raji to sandwich Favre on Oct 5!

"I’ll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." -Sheriff Melvin appoints Deputy Braun

by spell on Aug 18, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ve said before on this issue that Brett Favre is free to do whatever he thinks is best for him and his family.

And I’m free to be disappointed for myself and my 5 year old son, just getting into football, who will only remember Favre as a Viking. It’s probably immature. It’s probably an over reaction. But I’m done with Brett Favre. It’s hard to respect a guy when his track record is such that you can’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth. I don’t know that he was lying so much as he’s just too childlike to make a decision and hold himself to it. But it’s just as obvious to me that you can’t believe a word he says. He claims he has no ill feelings. I don’t believe him. He says it’s not about revenge. I don’t believe him. Why should I, at this point.

So here’s the deal. I’ll boo. I’ll resent seeing him in purple. And I’ll be a Packer fan, like I always have been. And I’ll laugh when, as appears to me to be inevitable, Favre fades down the stretch again as he has for several years running. For the first time, I’ll be glad when Brett Favre fails. Because just like him going to the Vikings is, apparently, what’s best for him, his failure is what’s best for me and the team I love.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 18, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

TSSC!!!

Awesome post. I feel the same way you do.

Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge

by Bush League All Star on Aug 19, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if I was Jackson or Rosenfels, I would be royally p.o.’d right now.

by vet2be on Aug 18, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

farve

life time fan. had my whoo’s, always a packer fan, aron is our man now. not a has has been but i guess that is what brett wants.i hope he don’t get hurt i love him. true packer fan. aron will kick his ass.

by stablewarrior3 on Aug 18, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions  

people

aron rogers will be the best now!!!!!!

by stablewarrior3 on Aug 18, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

yes

now u know why he drove the packers nuts.

by stablewarrior3 on Aug 18, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I named my son after this man for a reason

He plays the game, not for you, not for himself, but for the love that a child has when he first puts on a helmet. In this cynical world that is hard to believe, but I truly believe it. The jaded media doesn’t, half the Vikings fan base doesn’t believe it, Ted Thompson never believed it, but I do. And when you have G.O.D. on the field you can always win- when you have Rodgers on the field you might have a knee injury. Let the man play- it is a public held franchise- vote Thompson out and G.O.D. in! I remember Rich Campbell, Randy Wright, and my man Lynn Dickey. Those were not SuperBowl years. Respect the 16 years, respect what we received, and let the man live out his career for god’s sake.

by Brett Starr on Aug 19, 2009 2:23 AM CDT reply actions  

G.O.D.

Seriously…. YOU HAVE ISSUES!!!! First saying in no uncertain terms that #4 is G.O.D. on a football field is about as assinine as it gets!!!

I wouldn’t tell your son Brent that he was named after that guy! He might get his AZZ kicked in school… Like repeatedly!

Don’t kid yourself, he plays the game for one person and one person ONLY… Brent Favre!!!

BTW-THe other guy in your screen name is far and away the better QB than #4 was… And I am not old enough to have had the privelege of seeing him play, though I am old enough to remember the other QB’s mentioned quite well!!!

by Strohman on Aug 19, 2009 4:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...

… when does the restraining order expire? Maybe he’ll still be playing for the Vikings then and you can go watch him play.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 19, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

if you have G.O.D.

on the field, you might win. but not if G.O.D. is in a jets jersey… then you might cripple your team’s playoff chances by playing with a torn bicep. also, if you have G.O.D. as your GM, he might not sign anyone til the 3rd week of preseason, which might hurt team chemistry. sure, it’ll save operating expenses for two weeks, so we’ll see how that balances out.

by whorge on Aug 19, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

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