A Packer Fan's Week One Confession
Things in life can often be seperated into two seperate categories: things you see coming, and things you don't. Things you see coming give you a chance to prepare for them. For instance, if the weatherman says there's gonna be rain, bring an umbrella with you. If the new Madden is being released, you can be sure that they haven't really done anything to change it from last year (but you'll still buy it anyway, because you're an idiot.) And if Adrian Peterson is your team's starting running back, you can expect to see something like this fairly regularly.
But then there's the things that catch you by surprise. Like when you're in the middle of a fantasy football draft and your wireless connection goes out. Or when you're backing out of a parking space and some prick decides it's a good time to test the acceleration on his BMW and he rips your bumper off. Then there are games like the one we watched yesterday.
There was a good mix of the expected and unexpected between the Bears and Packers; it's part of why the NFL is so great to watch. Green Bay put on quite a show (and I say that only with moderate sarcasm) on the way to a 21-15 win over Chicago. But I'll be the first one to admit, over the course of the game, a Packer win was not what I expected.
Don't get me wrong, I was willing them with every ounce of my sports-loving being. My participation in the open thread should show that. But face it, as soon as Chicago took a 15-13 lead, my heart sank. The offense simply hadn't played well enough to prove that it could score points when it needed to. Hell, they needed to score points the whole game, and the best they could muster was a pair of field goals and a 1-yard run set up by Tramon Williams' interception.I don't things on faith very often; I need some form of proof until I can work with it. The Packers simply didn't prove to have any ability to move the ball against a surprisingly feisty defense that was missing two starting linebackers (Urlacher, Tinoisamoa) and a key player in the secondary (McBride) for most of the game.
That said, when Green Bay got the ball with less than three minutes left, I was torn. I wanted to believe that Aaron Rodgers would get his signature game-winner, that the offense would shake off the pressure applied by Chicago, and that this year would be different from last year. But a part of me was convinced that something bad was going to happen to ruin Green Bay's chances, just like last season.
The win was unexpected, but the play that got us there was expected. Let's go through some things I did and did not expect.
I did expect...Green Bay's defense to turn Jay Cutler into Pouty Mc-No-Chin. Cutler has a history of forcing throws where they don't belong whenever he gets pressured, and that certainly surfaced tonight. While the defense only sacked him twice, they forced him into numerous incompletions and put hits on him whenever an opportunity arose. Of the four picks, three of them (Collins, Williams, and Jolly(!)) were anywhere between questionable and downright awful decisions by Cutler because he was panicked in the pocket. Without getting too vulgar, let's just say that Urlacher may have been right about his new QB.
I did not expect...Brandon Chillar to play such a big role on the defense. His 7 solo tackles were huge, as was his fluid pass coverage, but his sack on Cutler was a thing of beauty. Jason McKie tried to cut block him, but Chillar simply hurdled over him and brought Cutler down. An incredibly athletic play.
I did expect...Mason Crosby to miss his first field goal. At this point, we simply need to accept him as he is. Crosby has a HUGE leg, but his accuracy is downright erratic. He's like the Jay Cutler of kickers. Minus the sideline p-outrage.
I did not expect...Devin Hester to be limited to 2 punt returns for 7 yards. That's right, Hester had less than 10 yards on punt returns. Plural. That was HUGE in this game. Jeremy Kapinos actually played well, and the coverage units were outstanding. Looks like there was a good reason to keep 3 FBs and 10 LBs.
I did expect...Green Bay to have trouble with Chicago's run defense. Even without Urlacher and Tinoisamoa, the Bears have a stout defense against the run. The fact that Ryan Grant got 61 yards on 16 carries amazed me; I figured he would get closer to 50 on 20 attempts. That shows what a healthy offseason can do for a running back with no talent.
I did not expect...Green Bay to have as much trouble with Chicago's pass rush as they did. With a banged up secondary, I figured that Chicago would either put more people in coverage to relieve the pressure, or they would sell out with 6+ man blitzes. It turns out that neither was really the case. Adewale Ogunleye made Allen Barbre look like a bellhop in the first half, and Daneal Manning and Al Afalava's sacks were on relatively rare blitzes by Chicago. Rodgers has some work to do for next week against Cincinnatti.
I did expect...Green Bay to get at least one chance at the end of the game to score and retake the lead. Green Bay's red zone defense was simply outstanding in this game; the Bears' lone TD came on a 36-yard strike to Hester that Nick Collins came up lame on. Were he not suffering from cramps, I expect he would have been at least closer to the play than he was. Anyway, I was confident that Chicago was going to take a 15-13 lead on a field goal, because the defense just played that good.
I did not expect...the Packers to pull through. Call me a pessimist, call me a naysayer, call me a flip-flopper, or whatever else you want, I did not see a TD on that drive, especially in that fashion. The plays called up to that point were conservative, and the 3rd & 1 timeout made me think that Rodgers was starting to crack under the pressure. Luckily, Mike McCarthy rolled the dice on a huge playaction fake that resulted in Greg Jennings torching Nathan Vasher for the most exciting play of the weekend. (Sorry, Denver fans, but that was a HUGE fluke, and all you Viking fans can calm down too; the game was already won when Adrian Peterson went Beast Mode on the Browns.)
No matter the case, I'm ecstatic that Green Bay showed that it can win a gritty defensive game (or a crappy offensive one, tomayto, tomahto). I think the team has enough to work on *cough*passprotection*cough* for next week. How do you feel about this game?
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I certainly did not expect us to actually have a game winning drive
I told people I was watching the game with that we had to score a TD because Crosby can’t be counted on. We got the TD, then immediately I realized there was too much time left (see the Titans game last year).
The fact that we got the big interception shows me this might be a different team. That or we are owed a whole bunch of luck from the football gods and already cashed one in.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Sep 14, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard to get excited
Individually there were a lot of little things that made my hair stand up on my neck. The aforementioned Chillar sack, Jolly’s interception, the finishing int. But stepping back and looking at this game as a whole doesn’t give me the willies like I was hoping. Play a game like last night, best 2/3, and I can’t imagine the Packers coming away with the majority. Or heck, a game where they play a team with a known quality level greater than that of the Bears (see Titans, Tenessee; Giants, New York).
Realistically, I hope that Rodgers works on throwin the ball away this week, because while the O-Line gave up some of those pressured throws and such, Rodgers absolutely has to feel the pressure better. The safety immediately comes to mind, but I think there was one other sack where he had plenty of time to get the ball away and didn’t do so. So a little practice for him to aim at the first row of bleachers. And while you’re at it, stick Nelson up there to practice catching a few passes thrown directly at him.
by Danwood on Sep 14, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jordy Nelson's drops were uncharacteristic
I hope it’s just a hiccup and not a sign of something worse.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Sep 14, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jordy was not alone
Donald Driver was uncharacteristically stone fingered….
by NYCPac on Sep 16, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoop there it is
I never expected all those things either. Ok game but the momentum shifted when Erlacher broke. What if he had played the whole game?
How's it taste THOMPSON YOU MORON
by 4 where-ever on Sep 14, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Urlacher can't make Nathan Vasher run faster
by Danwood on Sep 14, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Urlacher would have affected what kind of coverage they were running on that play
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Sep 14, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Urlacher was playing the 1st Quarter
And receivers were still getting open, Rodgers was either overthrowing them or they were missing catches. Urlacher’s presence was not affected the passing game the majority of the time.
by Danwood on Sep 14, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just not accurate.
Urlacher missed the entire second half, if I’m not mistaken, meaning that he was off the field when the Packers couldn’t move the ball for much of the second half, just as he was off the field when they scored the go ahead TD. The “momentum shif” as you put it, didn’t occur until there was a minute left in the game, about an hour after Uhrlacher’s last snap.
Maybe your anti-Packer bias, born of Favre worship, is coloring your perceptions?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 14, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is what I saw from the game, good and bad
Both defenses were playing faster for much of the game. A lot, not all, but a lot of the poor play on the offense was forced by the opposing defense. Rodgers got clobbered a few times early and looked punch drunk for a good part of the game. Cutler was confused by the various looks he was seeing and was trying too hard, he settled down well at half time.
As for the Packers, I think there were some positives. Nelson looked good on kick return duty. I thought the defense had a great game. Fours interceptions and two sacks, with good pressure on Cutler for the most part. Grant showed flashes of his old burst through the line and powerful finish. Rodgers made the throw when he needed to to win the game. Crosby was 2 for 3 with one over 50, special teams played well overall.
What was bad? Rodgers missing some throws he usually doesn’t, and then the offense got out of sync with Driver and Nelson dropping passes they shouldn’t. Can’t give up four sacks. Tramon W had 1 pic, but dropped 2 others. The only time the run game looked good was after Urlacher was out.
So, moving forward, here is what I’m hoping to see. Get the tight ends more involved, 4 grabs for 14 yards isn’t good enough. A poster said elsewhere too much reliance on the run. I disagree, running backs ran 19 times for 69 yards. Hopefully, this is a product of the Bears really playing the run tough. As soon as Grant got it rolling, he came out and Wynn got stuffed twice. I’d like to see more Grant, especially late when they were having success.
I hope Nelson can bounce back and become a reliable #3. The o-line needs to tighten up and Rodgers settle down and hit those great long balls we are used to seeing. A little more commitment to the run – also a screen, draw, and some in the midle dumps to TEs to loosen the defense a little more.
The defense looked fine to me. The only oh crap play was Hester’s td, and I think Collins just couldn’t get into position. Bigby is hurt again, I think we have the depth to not feel that too much.
I hope the o-line can find itelf in the next few games. That is the key to many things that were subpar. Rodgers gets a little more time and the passing game gets more accurate. That opens up the inside for Grant. Successful run game gets time of possession in our favor. Looking forward to the next couple weeks and see how it all shakes out.
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 14, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Three other things:
No turnovers is a good thing, esp. against that defense.
Third down conversions were 4 out of 14, could be better.
Six penalties for 45 yards. That’s ok for the first game. The worse one was the illegal contact on Al Harris in the fourth after a stop on 3rd and nine that gave the Bears an automatic first down. Oh yeah, except it wasn’t illegal contact as the contact was right at 5 yards, it’s just Hester was lined up a yard deep – which should have drawn a flag in itself, but that has been covered.
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 14, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll say this…..when the Bears play the Packer I root for terrorism. But I’ll take Urlacher’s overrated bald head getting knocked out for the season as a consolation prize. So for what its worth, thank you for that.
by Hoss-Drone on Sep 14, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Urlacher quip was alright
but you had to evoke terrorism to get your point across? Really?
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Sep 14, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its called a joke guys. I realize packer fans dont have a sense of humor but really.
by Hoss-Drone on Sep 14, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not called comedy
That’s called trolling.
by vitaminx on Sep 14, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Urlacher is not overrated
Rather, he is overhyped. Overrated implies that you do not have skill, and Urlacher most definitely does (or did) have skill. However, he’s played up to have a larger impact that he really does on a game. That’s overhype.
The terrorism thing is juvenile at best and frightning at worst. It’s sports. Even if you do not truly hope that nearly 100k people were to be injured or die at a football game, you need to choose your words a little more carefully. And if you really DO feel that way, I’d recommend a psycologist, and soon.
by Danwood on Sep 14, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
again, I was joking. Sorry I forgot the smiley face….was trying to get in and out of enemy territory as fast as possible. :-)
If there are things that you think should never be joked about, that would be what I would find frightening.
by Hoss-Drone on Sep 14, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure to remember that
When you have something tragic happen to someone you know and people start cracking jokes about it.
by vitaminx on Sep 14, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“24.5 years. That’s how long it has to be before something is allowed to be funny.”
- South Park
Seriously though, I’ve used the terrorism joke before and gotten laughs – from packers fans. I think the problem is yours.
by Hoss-Drone on Sep 16, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet you knew your audience better
like you said, you were trying to get in and out of enemy territory ASAP.
Just because we didn’t think the quip was funny doesn’t mean that our sense of humor doesn’t exist. It just didn’t work.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Sep 16, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's called getting by on reputation...
Urlacher does it now, Birk does it, as do a few other guys… While still solid, they are not where they used to be… Sharper’s 2 picks yesterday will help him do it for another couple years…
by ctowner35 on Sep 14, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was the context of Sharper's picks?
He’s got a ton of picks in his career, but only about a dozen that actually mattered. He’s the king of meaningless INTs, often refusing to knock the ball down like he should on last minute tosses into the endzone, and ballhawking the middle of the field instead of maintaing over the top coverage when his team is up by a couple of scores. He might make the hall if he keeps piling up picks like he has, but if he does, he’ll have had the least actual impact on game outcomes of any hall of famer I can think of.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 14, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game was out of reach
I was watching (most of) the Lions/Saints game (I live in MI). I don’t remember the exact game situation or kind of plays where Sharper got those INTs, but I do remember that the Saints already had a sizeable lead before the first one. Remember, also, that he got those against a rookie QB in his debut.
It's called "playing the percentages."
by hilbelink on Sep 16, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford
I didn’t see the game, but the reviews were brutal. From Football Outsiders:
Stafford appeared to get a copy of the playbook with only one route written in for each play, since it was the only read and progression he seemed to go through. Every criticism we heard of Stafford coming out of college — that he wasn’t mobile enough, that he relied on his arm too heavily, that he was prone to bouts of inaccuracy because of inconsistent mechanics — came out against the Saints. And it’s not like the Saints have anything resembling a good pass defense. It’s not fair to judge Stafford based upon his first start, so we won’t, but things did not look good out there.
by Brandon on Sep 17, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Urlacher
Had he not hurt his wrist I think he would have been the Urlacher of old, or at least close to it. Everything I read on him in the offseason indicated that he was looking the player of old, and in the action he saw last night he looked pretty good. He lit some guys on our team up, and was revelant in pretty much every play. The Bears defense looks like their a lot better this year.
by packallday555 on Sep 14, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The phrase you’re looking for is “rooting for the meteor.” Jeez, man.
by Weldon on Sep 14, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cautious optimism
There’s a great deal of work to be done, but I’m glad we’ve got Aaron Rodgers and they’ve got Jay Cutler. Cutler is such an unlikable player…
The Packers’ D was a little better than I expected, although they seemed to give out a bit in the second half. The Bears seemed to make adjustments to stifle the pass rush around halftime.
The offense should be fine. As long as either a) we re-sign Taush when/if he’s ready or b) Barbre or Giacomini earns the job. Because, as far as I’m concerned, Barbre lost the job last night. That doesn’t mean it’s Breno’s, but we shouldn’t assume Barbre will be starting against Cincinnati. And if he’s half as bad as he was last night…well, let’s just hope he isn’t.
by Weldon on Sep 14, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I did expect
Multiple Cutler interceptions
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Sep 14, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The nice part is...
…we’re playing Cincy, then St Louis the next two weeks. Should be easy wins
by apett8 on Sep 14, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How I saw it
There were some good things and some bad things. I’ll start out with the good things. Our defense looked really good. When Collins got hurt it really changed what we were doing on defense. With him in there Capers obviously feels a lot more comfortable bringing the blitzes from every which direction (which was working tremedousely). When he went out you could tell Capers got much more conservative in his play calling, and it was then that we started to give up some yards on defense. Hopefully Collins is fine because pretty much all the blitzes we ran were effective, and really hurried Cutler into doing things he didn’t want to do. Jolly and Jenkins both got penetration on nearly every play, and both looked great. Pickett looked good as well, and did a good job. I’m really excited to get Raji in the mix, as those 4 all will be great players on our line. Really all of the LB and CB corps looked good, with Chillar, Kampman, and Williams being the guys that really stuck out too me.
The special teams looked much better to me as well. Nelson is pretty good returning kickoffs and punts, though he scared the hell out of me bobbling two of those punts he fielded.
I’m not sure what to think about the offense. A positive for sure, is that Grant looked like the Grant of 07’. It’s hard to give Rodgers and the passing game a grade, because I think a lot of his struggles were that he could never get comfortable in the pocket, and couldn’t establish any rhythm. It also didn’t help that Nelson dropped those two, and that Driver couldn’t come down with one of his two drops either. The next thing is o-line play. I thought everyone looked pretty good, with the exception of Barbe…god does he suck. The guy looked like he had 40 lb. cement blocks for feet, and he looked weak as Ogunleye threw him right on his ass 3-4 times. Does anyone think bringing Tauscher back is something TT would look into? Or about Giancomini possible starting? I really don’t care what option happens, just as long as one of these does happen. Barbre was consistently horrible, and isn’t starting material.
I was pretty disappointed about the illegal contact call against Harris as well. First off, the Bears should have gotten an illegal formation penalty as they didn’t have enough guys on the line of scrimmage. Secondly, Harris made contact within the first 5 yards, which is legal to do. Third, Harris gave him a little two-handed tap on the shoulder. That call was a back one, because it was 3rd down and Chicago would have had to punt. Keep in mind, this was the drive that they eventually took the lead from us on as well. It was big that we didn’t give up a TD to them, which the defense deserves some commending for.
Overall, we played good defensively for the most part, and pretty shitty offensively. It’s encouraging to see we were still able to get a win, despite Barbre’s blocking struggles. The defense should only improve as the year goes on, and if we can get that RT figured out, then Rodgers will be shredding up opposing defenses like we’re used to seeing.
by packallday555 on Sep 14, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good win
Although I’m going to have to put myself in the camp somewhere between the “I’m excited” and “I’m on the fence” options in the poll. What I do find troubling from a coaching standpoint is how little the preseason action carried over offensively to how they played. Maybe it’s because the starters only played a “real” defense once, against the Titans since the Browns, Cards, and the Bills don’t count. Maybe it’s because at the beginning of the year, the defense tends to be ahead of the offense (I always thought it was the other way around personally, since we don’t see those hard-hitting smashmouth struggles till the weather turns a bit colder..) and that caught the Packers off guard.
But the last three season openers were awfully flat. There was last year’s sleepwalking, conservative effort against Minnesota, and the game no one wanted to win the year before against Philly. And of course the shutout loss the year before that to the Bears as well, back in 2006. Makes me worried about McCarthy, but the criticism is similar, especially with a new-look offensive line.
The defense looked outstanding though, and I can’t wait to see how they continue performing throughout the year. I think if Green Bay can clean up their front five (or six or seven if they need to- remember in 07 we had this problem as well and we remedied it by using max protection schemes on a ton of plays?) then everything else will flow. The receivers weren’t doing Rodgers any favors either- Driver had a whole bunch of uncharacteric drops in addition to Nelson and I don’t know what the purpose of Deshawn Wynn in the game was. Where was Brandon Jackson? I am excited to see though, between the preseason and this game, that the coaching staff is letting Rodgers have far more control of the offense than before. You can’t excuse the safety he took too much, but he should’ve just ran towards the sideline and toss it rather than looking to make a play when he was backed up that far against the endzone. That was a real good play by the Bear defender that got him though, because he held Rodgers’ arm to make sure he couldn’t throw it away.
Pretty psyched about squaring off against Cincy this week!
by vitaminx on Sep 14, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jackson was listed as doubtful, I don't think he played at all
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by BleedsbluinMI on Sep 14, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by PackerHaiku on Sep 14, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 Things
One, I am pleased they didn’t have their A game but won dirty.
Two, Crosby is good on kickoffs but is no Ryan Longwell when it comes to reliabilty on field goals.
by Wade V on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O Line Penalties
I’ve enjoyed reading through the posts, but I didn’t see any mention of one of my concerns: the O line’s penchant for drive-killing penalties. Ryan Grant’s longest run of the day, ending inside the Bears’ 20, was called back for an O Line penalty. Two drives stalled when O Line penalties changed 3rd down into 3rd and long.
The O Line penalties were just a part of the 2008 deja vu experience. Mike Sherman always said on his TV show that he’d look at the film and if something needed fixing, he’d get it fixed. McCarthy isn’t done with the repairs to the leaky 2008 team. Drive killing penalties; two first-quarter mini-drives resulting in no points; two 3 and outs in the 3rd quarter that left the defense on the field too long; a strong defensive outing marred by miscommunication in the secondary leading to easy scores for the opponent; a defense unable to stop a late game drive and losing the lead.
But the deja vu disappeared with that one 50-yard pass. I’m excited for the next game and the remainder of the season. I want to see what Capers does next. Go Pack!
by Packer Pete on Sep 15, 2009 6:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
In McCarthy’s defense, every team has these same problems and nobody has managed to figure them out on a consistent basis. That isn’t an excuse, but to assume that it’s going to go away completely I think is a naive viewpoint. I’m sure they have worked on it just like every other team. Holding is like speeding on the interstate, it’s a matter of pushing the envelope until you get caught. Everyone does the obligatory 5 over, and nearly every lineman holds at some point.
The key isn’t to eliminate all penalties (which would be nice), it’s to have plays designed to overcome them. Watching Buffalo/NE last night the Bills, on several occasions, had 3rd and short, called for a holding penalty, and still converted the subsequent 3rd and long play.
by Danwood on Sep 15, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent analogy
I’ve been looking for something to compare holding to, and you beat me to it. Good work.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell_M on Sep 15, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive Line Needs Much Improvement
The one glaring hole in Green Bay’s game was it’s offensive line. Packer Pete has pretty well covered my concerns, most especially regarding the penalties. Allen Barbe’s performance was, to put it kindly, substandard. Unless the O-Line improves significantly, it;s going to be another long season. Even McCarthy, who is no football genius in my opinion, recognizes that reality. On the upside, I thought the defense played very well, considering they were carrying the load for most of the game. There were some impressive plays and they kept Jay Cutler rattled for a good part of the night. I see nothing but improvement for the defense as the season progresses. The offense needs to step it up, especially the line. With a medicore runing back, protecting the QB becomes an imparitive. The line gets a failing grade in that department.
by sockettuem on Sep 15, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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