Atari Bigby Out 4 Weeks
by Mitchell_M on Sep 16, 2009 4:15 PM CDT
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Well, that was unexpected. According to both Jason Wilde and the Green Bay Press-Gazzette, via Pro Football Talk, Bigby sustained a "serious" knee injury that will keep him sidelined for at least a month.
So, Bigby's out, Aaron Rouse is in, and Anthony Smith is no longer with the team. Derrick Martin is now the team's only proven backup at safety, unless McCarthy wants to slide Charles Woodson to safety, which has proven to be a bad idea. (But what about Jarrett Bush? What about Jarrett Bush?)
How this will affect the defensive playcalling is yet to be seen. Bigby is a big hitter, but is erratic in most other functions of the safety position. Rouse has been called a "capable backup," but I'm not sure I agree. In any case, we saw how conservative Dom Capers became when Nick Collins wasn't available. Hopefully, Bigby's absence won't have the same effect.
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I wish they kept Anthony Smith
I don’t think they’ll move Woodson after last years disaster and I really hope we keep Jarrett Bush out as well.
I liked what I saw of Anthony Smith...
…but I did notice he seemed to cheat a little back there. I could see him making some plays but blowing some big plays as well… Here’s hoping the coaches saw more than we did with our current roster.
A 53 man roster hurts some teams for depth, but it allows for more parity as well. If teams like the Packers, Cowboys, Patriots or any other team could stash players away, lesser teams could never assemble a decent roster. There were a few projects other than Smith I would have liked to keep as well (Martin, Meredith, Sutton to name a few)…
hmm...
martin isnt much if a project…he is what he is, a 6’4, slow, possession guy who can block well.
we got meredith on the practice squad, and i even tho i loved sutton, can u really see him ever being anything more than a 2nd or 3rd stringer?
but uah, i wish we’d have kept smith, o well, maybe this derrick martin guy can play.
"stay (green and) gold"
by Green and Bold on Sep 16, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
What about Brandon Underwood?
As far as I remember, Rouse isn’t too bad (he picked off Peyton in the endzone and took it back, didn’t he?
his overall coverage
isnt too sharp…and he takes he worst angles of pursuit ever seen/
"stay (green and) gold"
by Green and Bold on Sep 16, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
I was SOOO mad when we let Smith go, and I think there will be consequences to that. Rouse is a big hitter as well, and I really hope Caper’s aggressiveness doesn’t change because that’s what made the defense so effective. I would actually say Rouse is better in coverage then Bigby, and at 6-4 230 he has all the potential in the world. Hoepfully he can be successful for us filling in.
I like Bigby
but at the end of the day what are we really missing with him gone? He is a great hitter but bad-horrible in coverage. He is no Troy Polamula out there so Rouse should be able to do what Bigby does just fine.
I still think Smith would have been an easy choice to put in there right now…I was quite SHOCKED when he was released. Now we’ll get to see if the guys running the team actually ARE smarter than us! ugh. I just hope this isn’t the hole teams needed to beat our D, it was looking really good last week.
Yeah…I don’t know we’re losing a whole lot in terms of coverage.
But man, is it fun watching him knock the crap out of people.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
If you want hits...
…we should get Chuck Cecil out of retirement… That was entertaining… I know I’m getting old when he’s now DC at Tennessee…
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Dougherty's article
A few interesting points from Dougherty
Though Capers didn’t show it much during training camp, he apparently was intending to use Bigby aggressively near the line of scrimmage and blitzed him at least four times against Chicago last week. Likewise, Rouse came to the NFL with the reputation as a big-league striker, and he says he blitzed extensively in college at Virginia Tech while playing a hybrid linebacker-safety position his final two years. The questions about his coverage ability, though, persist because of his height and play.
This is interesting to me, because Capers played to Bigby’s strengths, and had him around the line to hit people. I would not be surprised if he did the same thing with Rouse who has had struggles with coverage. Keep Collins in coverage and use Rouse on blitzes. Cincinatti will definitely be targeting him.
To prepare for the change to the 3-4, Rouse dropped weight in the offseason to improve his speed and agility. In his first two NFL seasons, he weighed between 225 and 230 pounds, but he came to camp less bulked up in the upper body and weighing about 215 pounds.
Sounds like Rouse is saying and doing the right things. We’ll see how it goes. Also the Packers have a bye after week 4. Its possible that Bigby might only miss 3 games.
Capers
That guy is bringing the blitz from everywhere. But it’s harder to blitz the safeties because it’s hard to disguise them as they creep up to the line. If a linebacker is standing at the line, he might blitz, but could easily drop into coverage, but the safety is coming up to blitz. Also you’ve got a major problem if the blitz is picked up and there might be a whole in the deep coverage.
Please Get Off The Anthony Smith Bandwagon
There is a reason the Steelers made no attempt to sign him back and the Packers cut him. All these fans base Smith on the 2 INT’s he had in pre-season. Outside of the fact that it was just pre-season, Smith will give up 2 TD’s for every INT he makes.
He’s in the wrong place more than not and he doesn’t have the speed to make up for his gambling mentality. That’s why he’s gone. The Packers coaches know more than us. It’s an amazing concept. I love when I see fans say how this move and that move are gonna come back and bite us. Anthony Smith is a backup.
bandwagon
Personally, I would much rather have A. Smith than Rouse!!! Rouse misses ALOT of plays by taking poor angles to the ball, sucks tackling when he does get there… To me they are the same in that neither is all that assignment sure! But at least Smith can tackle and is physical!!! And please spare me that Rouse is physical, cuz he is NOT… If you think that, then you are mistaking size for physicality! Smith is a far more physical player than Rouse and a much better tackler!!!
I take my hat off to you
because you know more than the Packer coaches and and those that make the personnel decisions. You saw Smith play in a few meaningless pre-season games and your gonna tell me that he is definitely better than Rouse. Smith started almost an entire season in 2007 where he had a modest 2 INT’s and he was up at the top of the league in explosive plays allowed.
You are correct, both Smith and Rouse take bad angles. To say that Rouse can’t hit though is ridiculous. He just took Desmond Clark out for a month. If you can break a big TE’s ribs like that you must have some physicality.
And finally why would the Packers keep Smith on as a backup when the guy refuses to play special teams? The fact is the Steelers are the best team in the league (until someone dethrones them) and they didn’t even think enough of Smith, a 3rd round pick a couple years ago, to offer him a contract.
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