Recap: Bengals Defeat Green Bay Packers 31-24

I was thinking back to the Eagles game and thought “no way, no how” Just a bad call, bad coverage and bad tackling

…how the offense was able to gain field position on a fumble, especially by the same guy

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disgusts me

Has actually looked really good thus far. And I thought Giacomini was inactive?

The commitment to the run is sorely lacking from the offensive playcalling, and they sometimes run on downs that make absolutely no sense ( for example, being down by 7 at home in the 4th quarter on 2nd and 10) unless it’s to set up the pass. The linemen have all done great at run blocking, but are horrible at pass blocking and Clifton’s injury threw everyone off today. Grant doesn’t pick the right hole sometimes, but if there’s one thing that’s proven with him, it’s that he always starts slow and gets much, much better as the game goes on.

… and that if we aren’t as practiced at execution as the Steelers and Ravens, it might show.

But it’s still Cedric Benson. And gangstaff is right: the DL did a decent job of holding the line in quarters 2 and 3, yet Benson was constantly falling forward and getting 1-3 or more yards after contact on every play. The LB play today was simply not good enough.

at the sports bar I was at (damn West Coast and 10am starting times) so I was ready to puke all game.

The beer I drank to calm the hangover down just totally numbed me in the second half, I have to say. Which is a marked improvement from years past where I would have been furious. But you’re right, it wasn’t that kind of game. It was that sort of game where you feel like, “Oh shit are we that bad or are they that good? What happened?” The walk of shame home was a long one.

Those were TERRIBLE arguments. You countered YOURSELF in your own argument repeatedly because most of your arguments had nothing behind them. Just go away unless you come with something legitimate.

but Jarlsberg raises a LOT of good points. Yes, he’s a historic Thompson hater, but he’s spot on from drafting O-linemen to Rodgers’ inexperience to keeping 3 FBs to poor playcalling.

I wondered how long before Jarls appeared following a bad loss. The Packers didn’t lose this game because TT hasn’t stocked the team with enough talent. They lost the game because they didn’t execute. That’s it.

That means the problem yesterday was the players failing to perform to their talent level and the coaches failing to prepare and inspire the team to perform well.

That’s it. Really.

Jarlsberg, you’re pathetic. You must subconsciously root against the Packers in order to exploit the opportunity to furiously type out your all-consuming rage at everything Ted-related.

Here’s some pearls of reality I would ask you to consider the next time you consider coming here to puke your bile all over the rest of us: Ted’s the GM; Brett’s gone because he was an ass in his off-field dealings with the Packers; the Packers will lose games they shouldn’t lose.

Favre wouldn’t be doing anything better than Rodgers right now. Favre has been reduced to a checkdown QB in Minny. Have you watched him (not directed toward you Shawn…but enforcing your argument). Have any of you actually watched him? I don’t think he’s completed a pass over 10 yards yet.

The Favre lovers think that we don’t still long for the old Favre days, he was great and we loved him…HE ISN’T THAT FAVRE ANYMORE!! Favre himself says this all the time, why can’t you all realize it?? He doesn’t have to show us loyalty, its a job for him that is fine…but why are we expected then to show it to him? He’s the enemy now. He chose to join the enemy…you reap what you sow!

This should have been an EASY win, but unfortunately I think the team thought that going into the game.

They certainly don’t leave without blame. I think the only person that doesn’t have to hang their head low is Woodson. He was all over the place, everyone else was TERRIBLE!

I have serious doubts in this team after watching this pathetic performance this week. Cedric Benson doesnt run over a title contender.

Blackmon is explosive out there as a returner. Jordy might be steady but I don’t see him as a game changer as a returner like Blackmon can be.

GO HOME! We dont want your kind here, Screw you Viking Fan!!

“Rodgers has a lot of tallent, but there are things he needs to learn by playing, like pre-snap reads, getting rid of the ball quicker, thrusting his arm a little more sometimes maybe. and that will take time, I accept that, why others don’t, I don’t know.”

Pre-snap reads? Like when he audibled on 3rd and 1 against the Bears to PA, and hooked up with Jennings for a 60 yard game winning TD? He is a very smart QB. Many times week 1 Cris Collinsworth pointed out that Rodgers had pointed to who was blitzing and shouted out there number to the oline. (But the oline is so bad they can’t even stop people even when they know where their coming from)

“Another thing, most people here seem to believe that the Packers would not miss Favre on the field, even though Rodgers had very nice stats his first year, he still has a lot to learn. (please do not bring on the BS about his passer rating, ‘cause passer rating is a system made by some statistician, and is really a bunch of crap)
Why would one believe that someone who never started a game in the NFL would instantly fill the shoes of a ledgend?? that’s hopeing for way too much. I knew all along it would be a difficult transition when Favre left, I’ve said it for years!”

Probably because he was a 1st round draft choice and a possible #1 overall draft choice. (We got lucky and the 49ers picked the wrong guy) He got to sit 3 years and watch Favre direct the offense, and despite my dislike from Favre there is really no one better to learn it from then him. He also came against Dallas in a game where Favre looked terrible, and actually kept us in it, throwing for 200+ yards, completing 60%+ of his passes, and scrambling for some key 3rd downs. In his 1st year in playing, again let me emphasize first, he threw for 4,000+ yards, 28 TDs compared to 13 INTs, completed 63% of his passes, and had a QB rating of 94 (not sure about that but it was somewhere around there). We saw virtually no drop in our offensive stats with him as QB, and virtually no drop in PPG. He came in and basically performed just as well as Favre did.

“And there’s one thing Favre still has, that you can’t coach, were Rodgers just is a bit behind Favre, that’s a very quick release, it definatly benefits a QB when the rush is comeing. + Favre didn’t mind getting hit by whoever, just as long as he compleded the pass.”

Rodgers actually does have a pretty quick release but he does hold on too the ball too long sometimes. But like some people have pointed out the guy has only started 19 games that will change. In 07’ it also helped Favre that both Clifton and Tauscher had Pro Bowl type years, and Wells was very good as well.

I know Rodgers has some things he needs to work on but there really isn’t all that much. They guy is excellent as far as physical ability goes (has strong arm, quick release, plus he has good mobility) and mental abiltiy (doesn’t make a whole lot of mistakes). If he could get ANY time in the pocket he would be shredding opposing defenses up. The thing about your posts are is in your first post you blatantly blamed Rodgers for our troubles the past year and this year, which is way off base. Then in this one you say you don’t blame Rodgers, but your post goes on too only point out the things he needs to work on or hasn’t done well, followed by why Favre is still a great QB. We’re not dumb, we get that you love Favre and wish he was still our QB and had he not acted like a 16 year old girl in the 07’ offseason maybe he still would be.

Of course some of my opinion is biased as I absolutely love Rodgers. I don’t think he could have handled the Favre situation with anymore class then he did. Despite being booed by our OWN fans at training camp, and despite being asked about the Favre situation constantly he never broke down, and always stayed classy and respectful to Favre. That would have been a damn hard thing to do, and honestly it impressed me a ton and I commend him for it. He entered the 08’ season under the most pressure any QB has ever been under, and really played like a seasoned vet. He put up big numbers and got our team the lead in the 4th in each of the 7 games we lost by 4 or less points (only to have our defense give up a TD with about 2:00 minutes left pretty much every game). I guess I just don’t see how people couldn’t like the guy. The only real reason people don’t like him is because they had/have a man crush on Favre, and are probably a little secretly upset with how good Rodgers has looked thus far in his career.

But here is where you are mistaken. The reason people jump to Rodgers defense is because the Favre lovers attack him left and right. Either way though, we all know Rodgers still has a lot to learn. I didn’t expect the Packers to repeat at the top…I expected a learning curve. I didn’t expect 6-10 but I also didn’t expect half our defense to be in IR or playing injured.

There were times where Rodgers held onto the ball too long, but it was usually after he was forced out of the pocket by the pass rush. That makes him take away his focus on passing and turn it toward elluding. If he can get a pocket, he won’t be holding the ball that long. I don’t see him as a Big Ben type QB…at least not so far. Who knows though, he’s young and still getting the hang of things I think.

PS… only 4 more years (+ some months) untill we can draft Dylan Favre ;-)

I thought I was the only one who remembered him!

“Now, you say it in your post, you disliked Favre to begin with, and you love Rodgers.”

I loved Favre in his tenure here, I idolized him growing up, and playing the QB position mainly because of him. My dislike for him began after he handled the “soap opera” the way he did. You might have assumed that already but I just wanted to be clear.

“the 3rd &1, not so sure that was an audible, I think that was a called play, but if he did audible, why doesn’t he do it more often ? yes he called out some blitzes in both games (that’s his job you know ..) but still he’s standing there holding the ball and getting killed. His lack of pre-snaps reads are mostly in coverage, finding the missmatch, and if there’s no obvious missmatch, create one with shifts or motion !”

I’m pretty positive he did audible but I guess I don’t know for sure. A lot of the time he actually reads the other teams CB, and throw a quick slant or a quick pass out to our WR if he sees the offense back, even though the called play is a designed run. As for him audibling, last year he was pretty limited by MM. I would expect Rodgers to audible a bit more this year as it has be said he will have much more freedom in our offense. As for his lack of ability in reading coverage (though I wouldn’t word it like that) that comes with experience and playing games. Favre was so good at that because has been in the league for 20 years. Rodgers has only played 1 year, and with time he will develop that same ability Favre had/has.

“We’ll never agree on this anyway, so I’m not going to waste much more time in this tread, but how Rodgers turns out in the long run, only time will tell, unfortuneatly I don’t think he’ll be in the league when he’s 40 …..”

Well most players don’t play in the league when their 40 unless their punters or kickers, so ya maybe he won’t play until he is 40. I think he’ll be our QB for the next 10+ years though, and in 2-3 years will probably be the best QB in the league. I see where your coming from with the things your saying, and I understand and agree with some of them. My only thing is the only two people I would put the blame on so far this year is TT and MM, not Rodgers.

Rodgers deserves plenty of blame here, he spends way too much time pussy footing around and holding onto the ball. But the line play has been atrocious and the Packers normally sure handed receivers have dropped some catchable passes. By the way, why haven’t you still posted on the Chargers site Kermit? You are a fan aren’t you?

“Wow

That’s a LOT of frustration coming out.

Feel better?

It’s amazing that people actual fans of the Packers would put soooo much frustration and sarcasm down on a computer screen because someone me other than me gave an opinion that doesn’t toe the Packer Kermit-the-troll line."

There ya go bringing it back to Favre. He’s gone. We don’t care about him anymore. Lets leave him out of discussions. Its a different team and they both play different games right now. LEAVE BRETT OUT OF PACKER DISCUSSIONS!