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Analysis: The Green Bay Packers New Look Secondary

With three defensive backs injured during the final preseason game, and two injuries at safety entering it, the depth in the secondary has been shaken up. The whole roster got more confusing when two players were placed on I.R. (S Charlie Peprah and CB Pat Lee), and one of the preseason's stars was released (S Anthony Smith). And one new face was added in a trade.

The best news in all of this was that the starting lineup is the same. CB Charles Woodson and CB Al Harris will start, alongside S Atari Bigby and S Nick Collins. CB Tramon Williams could play as much as 60% of the time as the nickel back. 

So meet the new face: CB Derrick Martin.

  • He was a 6th round draft choice of Baltimore in 2006, and the Green Bay Packers acquired him in trade for OL Tony Moll. The Packers have had their eye on Martin since they scouted him in college at Wyoming.
  • In his first three seasons, he played exclusively at cornerback, starting 3 games in 2007. He played in 4 games in 2008 before a shoulder injury ended his season. 
  • This preseason, he's been playing exclusively at safety. Now that he's in Green Bay, I expected he'd be playing some at cornerback again, but, according to Tom Pelissero, he spent his first practice following safeties coach Darren Perry around. So he's a safety. 
  • He projected as high as a 3rd round pick in 2006. But according NFL Draft Scout, as a cornerback, the best he can be is a nickel back, so the move to safety might be a good one.
  • And he had some problems with a bowling pin and some marijuana back in 2008, but was never charged.

Star-divide

S Anthony Smith had a great preseason, there were even rumors he might unseat Bigby, but surprisingly he was released last weekend. CB Pat Lee was a 2nd round pick in 2008 and seemed certain to move up the depth chart in 2009, but a back injury kept him out most of training camp and a knee injury ended his season.

Cornerbacks:

CB Will BlackmonAccording to Tom Pelissero, he's still not dressed for practice. If he's healthy, he'll be the top reserve.

CB Brandon Underwood. They love those guys that can play multiple positions. Although he played safety during his final college season at Cincinnati, the 6th round pick has been playing exclusively at cornerback in the NFL. He's got some promise; he appears to be able to close on receivers with a good jump and his tall 6'1" frame. But he also plays with a lot of cushion and has gotten spun around by a double move on more than one occassion. He's not ready to play right now, but he's the next healthy cornerback currently on the depth chart.

Safety:

S Aaron RouseAccording to Tom Pelissero, he was in practice on Monday. Just as in 2008; he remains the top backup at safety.

S Jarrett Bush. The former nickel back has been playing exclusively at safety this preseason. The team roster lists him as a cornerback/safety, but he'd only play cornerback in an emergency.

S Derrick Martin. He'll be a safety, so he seems like an odd addition because they need cornerback depth. Apparently the Packers just had a "thing" for him, so says GM Ted Thompson:

Q: Was the decision on Anthony Smith a performance-based one?
A: It was just a thing, we had an opportunity to get a player from Baltimore that kind of fit what we were looking for. A little bit of a corner, a little bit of a safety, special teams. It just came down to that. 

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I felt like our secondary was our best defensive unit last season

Mostly because of how good Woodson and Collins were. Now that is purely based on how I feel, stats may show Collins wasn’t as good as I thought he was.

I worry a bit about making two solid man-to-man corners who thrive by being physical into more zone guys, but I think with Harris getting older it could help him.

I will say this- I think if Woodson stays healthy he will make a serious run at DPOY. The guy makes so many plays.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Sep 8, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

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by PackerHaiku on Sep 8, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Secondary will be great

Woodson and Collin’s ballhawking abilities will be utilized to the fullest in our new system, and I can’t wait to see what they do. From every report I’ve read Harris has looked good in the system as well. I wasn’t to worried about it, as the reason he is so good is because he is a SMART, veteran CB. William’s ballhwaking ablities will also stand out this year. With us getting more pressure on QB’s this year, it will force more errant passs, and will likely result in more INTs. I can’t wait to watch the defense this year, and luckily I only have to wait 5 more days!!!!

by packallday555 on Sep 8, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I know I am going to get blasted for this comment but...

I still think the team should bring in Pacman Jones for a try-out. I know, I know, he’s not Packer Material, and I couldn’t agree more, he isn’t…right now. However, just hear me out. I still think, and I think most of you would agree, that when Pacman was on the field he was a great corner and return guy with a lot of talent, he wouldn’t have been a first round pick otherwise. I personally believe that our secondary while strong with the first string is very weak afterwards. If, god forbid, Woodson and/or Harris go down it won’t be good. Pacman at least would be an upgrade over what we have now after the starters and if nothing else could be a great punt returner.

As for the reason why I think it would work for the Packers…I think that being in an environment like Green Bay, with a team like we have, Pacman could have the supportive environment he needs. I think Woodson and Harris would be excellent mentors and provide him with guidance on how to conduct himself. Also, we could sign Pacman for nothing. Any opportunity he could get to play in the NFL I’m sure he would take, and if he has another incident we cut him for no loss. If he works out, we have a great 3rd/4th CB on the depth chart.

I just think it is a win/win situation for the Packers regardless what happens. If we cut him we still like a team that gave the guy a chance to make it, if he makes it we look like geniuses.

Let the blasting begin….

by DelArroz on Sep 9, 2009 3:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd be ok with signing him in the offseason, maybe

but not now. Mainly because he strikes me as being the type of guy that doesn’t work out as much when he’s not on a team. When he signed with the Cowboys, it looked like he was relying solely on his natural ability, which is certainly abundant.

Another thing is his attitude, but not what most of you expect I mean by “attitude”. Jeff Fisher is one of the best coaches in the league when it comes to communicating and identifying with his players. He’s even had a few extraordinary cases on his hands, namely Albert Haynesworth, Vince Young, and the aforementioned Pacman.

Haynesworth had anger and other emotional issues, which we all saw. Fisher was one of the most important people involved in turning him around, and Haynesworth responded by finally tapping into his talent, producing a monster season, signing a huge contract with Washington, where he will promptly fall back into mediocrity because he’s not being motivated.

Young has shown immaturity, a lack of focus, and has been generally a short-term failure in Tennessee. Credit Fisher with getting him on the path to being reigned in (finally) and having the stones to sit the 3rd overall pick in favor of Kerry Collins.

Adam Jones exhibited all of these issues, and even Jeff Fisher couldn’t get him turned around. Whether or not Pacman has left his wild ways behind him or not, only he knows. But until he demonstrates the work ethic and humility necessary to contribute to an NFL team, he won’t be signed by anyone. That’s why he’s in the CFL right now.

As far as the Packers go, just because they stood up to Lord Favre and actually kept their word as an organization regarding the players that have been in the system for an extended period of time doesn’t mean they have a “supportive environment”. Remember, this is a young team with relatively few veteran leaders. Before you pile on me for saying that, remember that Clifton has always been quiet, Woodson has been a recluse ever since his Michigan days, and the other top players (Rodgers, Jennings, Grant, etc.) are still too young.

Finally, in terms of the roster situation, I’d rather stick with Tramon Williams and Pat Lee (if he ever gets healthy) as the future CBs to build around. We know Tramon can do it, and we hope Pat can too. Adam Jones simply doesn’t fit in the picture that I see in Green Bay.

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by Mitchell_M on Sep 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

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