Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Miikka Kiprusoff Wins 300th Game, Buffalo Crushes Boston

The Season Is Upon Us!

Today is Tuesday, September 8th.  In five short days, it will be September 13th.  Sunday.  Do you know what that means?

 

Football-god_medium

Yes, actual meaningful NFL football is back again.  All the pointless preseason predictions and fantasy football fallacies (lol, alliteration) can finally come to an end, and the boys start playing games that actually count towards something.  Let's have a quick, unscientific breakdown of how Green Bay stacks up to the first victims opponents of the season: the Chicago Bears.

Star-divide

The game is a complicated one, but it can be easily broken down into four main matchups: one team's rushing offense against the other's defense, one team's passing offense against the other's defense, and vice versa.  Special teams, coaching, depth, and weather are all important, but for now, these four areas are the beginning of the buildup towards the opener.  Let's get to it, shall we?

CHI rushing vs. GB defense: The obvious place to start is with Chicago's Matt Forte.  The 3rd round pick lit the Windy City on fire during his rookie campaign, racking up 1,715 yards on 379 total touches.  He had so much involvement, some said that he was the Bears' offense in 2008.  And they wouldn't be too far off: Forte accounted for 73% of Chicago's rushing attempts and nearly 35% of his team's offensive yardage, well beyond anyone else in the league.

Forte's detractors say that he's primed for a sophomore slump, citing the dreaded 'Curse of 370' as reason for him to regress in 2009.  I personally doubt this theory's application to Forte, and I certainly don't believe that last season's workload will affect him until after Week 10 at the earliest.  Forte will be fine.

As far as depth goes, Chicago has little need for a 3rd down back or goal line specialist because Forte fills those roles so well.  However, their roster did take a hit when Kevin Jones, formerly a first rounder from Detroit, went down for the year with a torn ankle ligament.  Garrette Wolfe (4.6 ypc in 2008) and The Other Adrian Peterson (5.0 ypc in 2008) fill out the running  back stable, but neither of them averaged more than 2 carries per game last season.

When blocking is concerned, Chicago boasts an above-average offensive line.  Olin Kreutz and Roberto Garza are solid run blockers inside, but the decision to start Frank Omiyale over Josh Beekman could be the weak link in the trenches.  Orlando Pace is no longer the dominant run blocker he once was, but his 6'7" 325 lb. frame can still move DEs out of the way.  Last year's first round pick Chris Williams seems to be healthy for 2009, but the amount of time spent in the trainer's room figures to have hindered his progress.  He might be a turnstile, or he might be a brick wall.  We have no way to know.  Jason McKie and Desmond Clark are decent blockers out of the backfield and on the edge respectively, while Greg Olsen's blocking is not quite there yet.

Against Green Bay's defense, it's hard to predict exactly what will happen.  The 3-4 alignment gives much better flexibility when it comes to runs outside the tackles, but the gaps between the NT and DEs might result in open running lanes between the tackles if the ILBs can't disengage from blocks.  However, if Cullen Jenkins, B.J. Raji, and Ryan Pickett penetrate just one or two yards in the backfield, they can short-circuit any rushing attempts the Bears throw at us.  When Forte gets to the linebackers, the only real concern is Nick Barnett's ability to make tackles after the long rehab from an ACL tear.  Brady Poppinga, Aaron Kampman, Brandon Chillar, and A.J. Hawk are all adept tacklers and will slow down Forte as he makes cuts.

Advantage: Chicago.  The 3-4 defense looks great, but doesn't have experience handling a versatile back like Forte or a power run scheme that Chicago employs.

CHI passing vs. GB defense: Jay Cutler made headlines when he complained his way out of Denver.  However, Green Bay's defense needs to focus less on his child-like tendencies and more on the cannon growing out of his shoulder.  Cutler has developed a nice rapport with TE Greg Olsen, and Matt Forte is always a threat to catch out of the backfield.  However, Chicago suffers from a major shortage of proven WRs, as Earl Bennett has 0 career catches and Devin Hester, while greatly improved, is still a burner trying to become a receiver.

Chicago's pass protection is the major question mark coming into the season, as Orlando Pace has too many miles on him while Chris Williams doesn't have enough.  Both have the tools to be elite pass protectors, but Pace is getting old and Williams doesn't know how to use them just yet.  Will they keep Cutler off his back, or will they be helping him up off the turf?  Olin Kreutz will help as much as he can by continuing to be a smart center who makes excellent line calls.

Green Bay's secondary is widely regarded as a top unit in the NFL.  Charles Woodson can cover just about anything, and Al Harris has remained a top-flight corner despite his declines in speed and agility.  Nick Collins is an excellent athlete playing the deep safety, and Tramon Williams is one of the better nickel corners in the league.  Two problems in the secondary are Atari Bigby, who doesn't cover receivers all that well, and depth behind Williams at CB. 

The biggest coverage questions, especially against Chicago, lie with the LB corps.  Brandon Chillar was a shut-down defender against TEs last season, but his move inside might take him away from that role.  Aaron Kampman spent his entire NFL career at DE, so his coverage skills are likely below average right now.  Clay Matthews is a decent coverage linebacker, but his hamstring injury hindered his preseason development and pushed Brady Poppinga into the starting job.

Green Bay's best chance to clamp down on the Bears' passing attack is to use the outstanding pass rush they've developed throughout the offseason.  Jay Cutler isn't as panicky as Kurt Warner when facing the rush, but he's not Peyton Manning either.  If the blitz schemes can force Cutler into hurried decisions, he's liable to force a throw into an area that isn't open.  Disguising blitz packages and using stunts will hopefully confuse both Cutler and the offensive line, giving the Bears few opportunities to air it out.

Advantage: Push.  If I had to choose, I'd choose Green Bay, but only slightly.

GB rushing vs. CHI defense: Green Bay's rushing attack left much to be desired last season, mainly due to Ryan Grant's snail-like start and a game of musical chairs with the offensive line.  However, Mike McCarthy has sought to reverse last year's fortunes in the ground game, which has already looked better in the preseason.  By committing to a starting five early on, McCarthy has given the five-some of Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, and Barbre a chance to develop a cohesiveness up front that the team has missed for years now.  Combined with Ryan Grant's improved health and conditioning and DeShawn Wynn's newfound commitment to the run game, Green Bay should have a competent rushing attack.

Chicago's defense is still formidable, but is showing visible signs of decline.  Tommie Harris is unblockable when healthy, but his injuries have made that rarely the case.  Adwale Ogunleye has never been a stout run defender, and Alex Brown and Anthony Adams are fringe starters that lack overwhelming size.  Lance Briggs is still an outstanding defender, Pisa Tinoisamoa was an excellent pickup from the Rams, and Brian Urlacher looks healthy enough to stall his decline.

Advantage: Chicago.  Green Bay needs to show their dominant run game in practice, not just in theory.

GB passing vs. CHI defense: Green Bay's passing attack needs little introduction.  Aaron Rodgers has been outstanding in the offseason, and gets to work with a corps of receivers that is the envy of any NFL team not from Arizona.  Greg Jennings is recovered from his concussion suffered against the Cardinals, and Donald Driver, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Donald Lee, and Jermichael Finley are all excellent route runners able to produce after the catch.

In the preseason, Green Bay's pass protection has been nothing short of fantastic.  Aaron Rodgers was hardly touched throughout the four-week exhibition schedule; he often had more time than he knew what to do with.  Chad Clifton is getting up in years, but the coaching staff believes he's got at least one year left in him.  Daryn Colledge, Jason Spitz, and Josh Sitton are all above-average in pass protection, and Allen Barbre has at least been servicable.

Chicago's secondary is in shambles right now.  Gone is Mike Brown, once a terror in the defensive backfield.  He is replaced by Kevin Payne, who started all 16 games last year because of injuries.  At the other safety is Al Afalava, a rookie out of Oregon.  Trumaine McBride and Nathan Vasher are at the corners, but they simply aren't able to cover the likes of Jennings and Driver.  Charles Tillman just started practicing on Monday after offseason back surgery.  CB Zack Bowman and S Daneal Manning are both struggling with hamstring issues.

To illustrate the Bears' concerns with their pass defense, I turn to ESPN.com's Kevin Seifert:

Can those players [Tillman, Bowman, Manning] possibly be ready to match up against a Packers passing offense that proved laser-sharp at every turn this preseason? (One statistic to chew on: Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers averaged 11.3 yards per attempt this preseason, more than any NFL passer with more than 17 attempts.)

To avoid a massacre, Chicago needs to get after Aaron Rodgers.  Adwale Ogunleye has the tools of an outstanding pass rusher despite his long-coming decline.  Tommie Harris is an outstanding inside rusher.  Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Pisa Tinoisamoa, and Hunter Hillenmeyer (remember him?) are above-average to great blitzers.  Will they be able to take advantage of a developing Packer offensive line?

Advantage: Green Bay by a country mile.  Aaron Rodgers was excellent against Chicago last year and has only improved.

Preliminary verdict: It all comes down to the passing game for Green Bay and the running game for Chicago.  If Green Bay can't contain Matt Forte, Chicago will be able to control the clock and decide the game.  If Chicago can't contain Aaron Rodgers, it's going to be ugly for the Bears.  To quote Bob LeGere of the Daily Herald,

In their press release for Sunday night’s nationally televised season opener at Green Bay against the Packers, the Bears list their starting cornerbacks as Trumaine McBride and Nate Vasher on the "unofficial depth chart."

Good thing it’s "unofficial," because if the Bears are forced to line up with McBride and Vasher covering Greg Jennings and Donald Driver all night they’ll lose by 4 touchdowns.

 I'm going to avoid making an outright prediction this early in the week, but I'll let the voters do the talking for me.

Poll
What outcome do you see for the season opener on Sunday night?
Big GB win.
830 votes
Close GB win.
649 votes
Too close to call right now.
70 votes
Close CHI win.
194 votes
Big CHI win.
97 votes

1840 votes | Poll has closed

Comment 26 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Packers win 31-21

I think our passing attack is too much for the Bears to handle. I think it will be so good that it opens up the run late in the game to a point where the Bears have no chance.

The Bears will get their points too, Forte is a stud and I think he abuses us a bit. We just need to make sure our secondary does their job so the front seven can concentrate on keeping Forte under wraps.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Sep 8, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Packer fan in Chicago

Being a lifelong Packer Fan that moved to Chicago a couple years ago for work, I must say that the weeks before and after a Packers vs Bears game is the best weeks of the year. The local sports radio down here still think Cutler is the second coming, and after seeing SI pick them to go the super bowl, they are already booking their airfare.

The only thing better then listening to people praise a guy that has yet to post a winning record in college (11-34) or the NFL (17-20), is going to be them calling for his head after Sunday night’s performance, let the games begin!!

by Old World Flavor on Sep 8, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Reserved optimism

Only the uninformed believe the Bears are headed to the SB just because of Cutler’s arrival. All I can say about it is he’s a substantial upgrade for an eternal problem at QB. SB aspirations have to be well-rounded; the defense will decided if they make the playoffs, not Cutler.


The only thing better then listening to people praise a guy that has yet to post a winning record in college (11-34) or the NFL (17-20), is going to be them calling for his head after Sunday night’s performance, let the games begin!!

These are beaten facts that are loosely thrown around when talking about his career. How about 13-1 when his TEAM gives up less than 21 points? Or…the fact he played against the toughest competition in the entire NCAA at Vandy with an inferior team. Other good JC stats that are conveniently ignored…

7.35 career YPA
94.2 career passer rating in the 4th quarter

Check out some other revealing facts on FO.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Football Outsiders also

had the Bears’ defense ranked seventh-best in the NFL last year- arguing that they were excellent against the run, got a lot of turnovers, and had a low YPC. What they didn’t do was get to the QB and continually were nickel and dimed to death- particularly late in the game.

That or that Football Outsiders is full of it. :D

I tend to find a middle ground- the Bears’ defense did a lot of things right last year but in this day and age it just goes to show you that if you don’t get to the QB, you’re toast no matter how good you are at the rest of it. It didn’t help that they were on the field more than any other defense in the NFL last season- Cutler should actually help with that.

Once again, if the Bears get to the QB this season, they’ll be really hard to beat. All that being said, I think the Pack takes them this first game.

by uli on Sep 8, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The hope is they'll be better

Based on what I saw in the preseason, it seems like they’ll be improved with technique and effort. Marinelli’s coaching has had nothing but positive reviews so far.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

The hope is there, for sure.

They looked moderately better in the preseason. But Marinelli’s players loving him doesn’t equate into results (as we’ve all witnessed).

by uli on Sep 8, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

Ultimately, the players have to step it up on the field. There’s a huge difference between motivating players as a position coach and guiding an entire team.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

my take

The run defense was good and the pass defense was lacking. They were good against the run last year, and I’m sure will be even better against it this year. The result of all the TOs they caused could be the fact that teams passed much more against them because of your poor secondary play last year, which obviously would raise the chances of more INTs. Another thing is, you guys have a lot of veteran guys, who know how to force fumbles, and cause TOs.

by packallday555 on Sep 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogunleye is overrated

and A. Brown is solid, but not spectacular. The aforementioned is in a contract year, so the thought is he might have one good year left for obvious reasons. Brown seems to “buy” what Rod is selling, and there’s talk that he might have his best sack total in his career. As everyone knows T. Harris is the most important part of Lovie’s defense, and must perform in order for the scheme to be effective.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The "Curse of 370"

The “Curse of 370” applies to carries only, not total touches.

The theory behind this is that the front 7 does more damage to running backs (and RBs take more hits on a per play basis) on carries than on receptions. And my purpose here is not to defend the theory, just to properly state what the theory is. If Forte slumps, it will not be for this reason.

PaulNoonan

by PaulNoonan on Sep 8, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Correct

Catching passes out of the backfield just doesn’t take the same toll on running backs.

by Brandon on Sep 8, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forte was our 2nd rounder

but, overall i think you’ve done a very nice analysis of our teams weaknesses and strengths.

It’s Bears/Packers week people!
or I suppose Packers/Bears week up here. what a way to open the season. game on.

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Sep 8, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Depth chart

I think Bowman plays the bulk at CB, replacing McBride very early in the game. Graham (spell Vasher if needed)and Manning will play a lot considering GB like to go with 3 WR sets.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed...

Bowman will get the start along with Vasher and plan to see a lot of Corey Graham at CB- who is solid if unspectacular.

Beware Zachary Bowman- when healthy, all the guy does is make plays. However, staying healthy has always been a problem with the guy.

Manning will be returning kick offs- always dangerous- and playing the nickel for now with Payne at FS and Afalava at SS. Both have had solid camps and preseasons thus far.

When Tillman returns (definitely not this game) Bowman will knock Vasher out of the starting line up.

Basically, you’re right on in your assessment though. If the Bears don’t get to Rodgers it will be a long night for them. If they can create pressure up front in passing situations, the secondary will look suprisingly solid- if not what anyone would consider “great”.

by uli on Sep 8, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't look now

Based on this article it seems he has a good chance at playing, barring any setbacks of course.

If the Bears don’t get to Rodgers it will be a long night for them. If they can create pressure up front in passing situations, the secondary will look suprisingly solid

A defensive only goes as far as their defensive line. With that said, I hope Lovie plays Rodgers “straight up” in regards to the LBs. I became increasingly nauseated watching Briggs and Urlacher in-between the gaps feigning a blitz only to be out of positon on those quick slants.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Once again...

totally agreed. I don’t mind Lovie sending those guys on occasional blitzes but GB KILLED the Bears with slants in the first game- although if my memory serves me right, they seemed to get over that nonsense by the second match up. If you’re going to send an LB, send him, but allow the other two to be in position to defend the middle of the field or flats.

As far as Tillman is concerned- “50/50” is coach-speak for “no way in hell”. For the long term success of the Bears this season, they should hold the guy out until next week and maybe not start him till week three. My reasoning goes a little something like this- I wasn’t expecting the Bears to win these first two games with Tillman in the line up. Let him get back in shape for the second quarter of the season and after.

by uli on Sep 8, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It depends

50/50 is considered questionable when teams designate the severity of the players’ injury. We’ll see soon enough whether he plays or not. IMO- he plays cause it’s a huge game.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron Rodgers

Rodgers or Cutler?
09 stats will Bear this out
12 is 2 times 6
http://www.PackerHaiku.com

Clark Osborn
PackerHaiku.com
FavreHaiku.com
BadgerHaiku.com

by PackerHaiku on Sep 8, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't wait to watch this game

I expect Rodgers to have a hell of a game.

by Pack Man on Sep 8, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

It seems to me that with the major commitment the Bears have made to Cutler,

they will really want to showcase his talents and you will no longer see Forte be anywhere near 37% of the offense—so the area where the Bears truly have an advantage is likely to be less exploited in favor of “working” their new investment. I don’t see Cutler being very happy unless the offense revolves around him.

This should work out for the best for the Packers as a game that tilts away from the Bears running game will tilt in favor of the Packers, IMHO. Go, Pack! Let’s get this season off to a good start!

"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson

by LAcarl519 on Sep 8, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Im not happy at all with our tackles and hope Giacommi? can step in some time soon

and Lang or Meredith can take left tackle next year, other than that, I think Rodgers will win it with the fireworks

On that fly to right-center
I kinda expected JD to plow into Rios with an ATV.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 17, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply recommended Unrec 3

by blackoutsox on Sep 8, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Why?

Rodger’s has had all day in all of our games this year, and Clifton who was once an all-pro has said to have looked excellent this offseason. Barbe had to beat out 2 other players to win the job, so obviously he was doing something right.

by packallday555 on Sep 8, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be an interesting one!

I think we’ll win this one but by a fairly close margin. I have said it multiple times, and I really truly believe it. If the Bears defense returns to that of 07’, or close too that, then they are the favorites to win the North. The thing is I don’t think their defense will return to that form. From the things I have heard and read about them, is that their secondary doesn’t look much improved. Tillman still isn’t 100%, and they need him to be, especially with how good our pass offense is. I’ve also seen that Harris, their big name d-lineman, and most important player on defense (in my opinion) hasn’t looked like the player of old this offseason. I think our defense will confuse Cutler a bit, and our offense should be able to capatilize.
My prediction would be 28-17 Packers.

by packallday555 on Sep 8, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Not to be a jerk...

…. but isn’t that “Football” still from Sky Sports talking about Soccer? Sky TV is a network based primarily in NZ and Australia, if I’m not mistaken, and American Football isn’t exactly huge in either country.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 8, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions  

You can thank Google Images for it

I wanted to find a picture of someone happy about football. This was the only one that wasn’t NSFW. Thanks, Google.

"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."

by Mitchell Maurer on Sep 9, 2009 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

close game

fun to watch, some shakey moments and then Erlacher GONE. Made a hugh difference in the out come.

How's it taste THOMPSON YOU MORON

by 4 where-ever on Sep 14, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Acme Packing Company, the SBNation blog for fans of the Green Bay Packers.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Gassertaylor_small
APC Open Thread #33: Ron Dayne Thread? Why Not?
Packer_brewer_badger_logo_small
The APC Helmet Logo Bracket Tournament: Sweet Sixteen

Recent FanPosts

Small
When And Why
Small
Where were you?
Ukcat_small
How about a little love for Cobb!!!
Jordy_nelson_small
MVP baby!
Football-funny-pic_small
NFL could add two new teams
Ukcat_small
Nike taking over Jerseys
Small
Free Agency Opinions
Small
NFL needs to fix its playoff system...

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Manager

Acmepackingco_small Brandon

Author

Rubberducky_small Mitchell Maurer

Ayrton_senna_1988_canada_small Vermont Cubs Fan

Texbucky_small texwestern

Gassertaylor_small OBrienSchofieldismyHero

Img00243_small Kevin McCauley