Tex's Take - Conference Champs
Well, here we are. The best teams in the regular season, the Saints and Colts, have advanced to the Super Bowl. As Packer fans, what do we make of this?
First, in the game that had little emotional impact for us, the Colts showed their resolve after falling down early. A beautiful 80-yard pass from Mark Sanchez to Braylon Edwards put the Jets on the board early, and their defense looked strong in the red zone, holding the Colts to early field goals. Despite the Jets' defense succeeding in limiting Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark, Peyton Manning got his alternate receiving options going, as Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon each recorded over a hundred yards and a touchdown.
The question then is how do we feel about that result?
As a Packer fan, I have no significant opinion on either team. While I do like the elder Manning's mental approach to the game, being the only QB in the league with the freedom to call many of his offense's plays, I also am sick of seeing him on my television during every commercial break. Plus, it's really fun to see the Manning Face. For me, these factors even out. For the Jets, Rex Ryan has forged an identity and an attitude that are unmistakable. Plus, I can't help thinking that Kissing Suzy Kolber's version of the big guy is closer to the truth than we realize. However, I get rubbed the wrong way by openly arrogant people like Ryan. At least Manning is subdued and humble in interviews, even if he often seems like a jerk otherwise. He makes an effort to act like a halfway respectful person, and I respect that he makes that effort. When the coach of a 9-7 team that snuck into the playoffs starts boasting that his team should be the favorites to win the Super Bowl, I feel differently. Some people love it, and I can understand that too, but because of Ryan's attitude all season, I found myself rooting for the Colts, and ended up pleased with the result of the game. Then again, maybe it's the fact that I really don't like Mark Sanchez and that I was really pulling for the Haitian-born Garcon after the recent earthquake. He had his biggest game after a terrible tragedy, and we should all commend him for that.
Then there was the NFC Championship game. It was a close game all the way through that ended with an awful decision by Brett Favre, eventually leading to a game-winning field goal in overtime by his opponent. Congratulations to the New York Gi--oh wait, it's not 2008 anymore? I'm sorry, I got my Favre collapses mixed up again.
But seriously, as big an issue as the bad interception was at the end of that game, Brad Childress' decision-making was just as disturbing to me. Consecutive runs when you're in position for a 50+ yard field goal just don't seem like a terrific idea to me. Combine that with somehow having 12 men in the huddle to push you back to a 56-yarder, and you get what Vikings fans have been expecting from Childress all season. Then again, Favre had the space to run (even on his injured ankle) and gain back the lost yardage, but instead committed the cardinal sin of quarterbacking: throwing across his body into traffic. Naturally, the Saints win the toss in overtime, Garrett Hartley kicks his longest field goal of the season, and Favre never gets the ball back.
Frankly, this is exactly how I wanted this game to end. It's not because I necessarily hate Favre anymore--time has softened that emotion to general distaste instead of all-out hatred. It is so that the obnoxious Vikings fans that I know can feel the same pain and receive the same ridicule that we Packers fans did after the Giants game two years ago or the 4th and 26 game in 2004. Let me be clear. I'm not talking about anyone at the Daily Norseman or even Vikings fans in general. I mean the people I know personally, my friends, relatives, and classmates, who spent their whole lives badmouthing Brett, telling me how bad he was and how much they despised him, only to worship the ground that he walked on when he came to "save their franchise". We Packers fans knew that there was plenty of bad to take with the good, and you ignored our warnings. Now you know our pain.
While Favre contributed to the loss, he was by no means the only one at fault. Adrian Peterson's, Bernard Berrian's, and Percy Harvin's fumbles killed the momentum that the Vikings had built up. If I were a Vikings fan, I'd want Childress to make each of them carry a football around with them for literally the entire offseason.
And now we look ahead to the Super Bowl. My early feeling is that if the Colts hold on to the ball, they will be victorious. I think the only way the Saints win is if they win the turnover margin by at least two or three. Manning threw 16 interceptions during the regular season, his most since throwing 19 in 2002, so I think that this is a possibility. In terms of a team to cheer for, I am at a loss. I would like to see the Saints win on behalf of the NFC, and because I like Drew Brees, but frankly, I simply hope that we get to see an entertaining game of good football.
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I couldn't care less who wins
I just want this game to be as entertaining as the Vikings and Saints or Cardinals and Packers in what has turned out to be a very boring postseason.
by Charlie Kelly on Jan 25, 2010 1:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
But seriously, as big an issue as the bad interception was at the end of that game, Brad Childress’ decision-making was just as disturbing to me. Consecutive runs when you’re in position for a 50+ yard field goal just don’t seem like a terrific idea to me. Combine that with somehow having 12 men in the huddle to push you back to a 56-yarder, and you get what Vikings fans have been expecting from Childress all season.
I remember seeing many Vikings fans over on DN throughout the year saying that if they were to lose in the playoffs it would likely be because of Childress, and his sometimes puzzling decisions.
I’m ok with the two run plays called, even though I don’t think they were correct. What had me cracking up was that he tried to send out different personnel out there in order to try and “confuse” the Saints. Really? Or you could just could just run the ball once more and have what is likely a 48-50 yard FG for Longwell to attempt.
He didn’t adjust his protection schemes at all throughout the game, and Favre repeatedly got the snot knocked out of him.
These are some of the reasons I am so happy they signed Childress to a 4 year extension!
As for the game I don’t really care who wins. It’s hard not to admire Peyton Manning, and the things he does but I gotta love the Saints for knocking out the Vikings. Either way, I’ll be fine.
by packallday555 on Jan 25, 2010 1:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I thought is was a great game too.....
but I wouldn’t have felt the same way had the Vikings won. The Super Bowl should be good but I would like to see the Saints try to disrupt Manning (if they can) as they did Favre.
by Packerfan045 on Jan 25, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
just glad it’s not Favre in the Super Bowl! I’d like to see Drew Brees get what’s coming to him. A Super Bowl ring. Is there a more deserving guy? Brees leads the Chargers to their first playoffs in 8 years and gets cut so that Philip Rivers can take over. He joins the Saints, who were a pretty bad team than, and over the past 5 years has helped turn that team around. Manning has his ring.
If I were a Vikings fan, I’d want Childress to make each of [Peterson, Berrian, and Harvin] carry a football around with them for literally the entire offseason.
And then pay their wives, children, girlfriends, boyfriends, cousins, parents, friends, friends’ friends, and agents to follow them around trying to dislodge it. It’s like that really annoying high school drill, but with guys who drive Maybachs.
That would awesome.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jan 25, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Just like in The Program!
Sorry, any day I can make a reference to that movie is a good day in my book.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
I shouldn't be surprised...
… but I really can’t believe how many Vikings fans are bitching about the refs. I think the refs struggled, but they were screwing the Saints blind until the OT period. They missed a low hit call on Favre earlier than that, but made up for it with 2 other personal foul calls on Favre (which Aikman criticized), not to mention the phantom PI in the endzone and the phantom hit out of bounds (which might have been the worst call of the game). Yet they’ve got the temerity to blame the refs for the PI call the Saints got late and the refusal to overturn a couple of plays in OT (read the damn rules; if it’s not indisputable, the call on the field stands, no matter what it looks like MIGHT have happened). They also ignore the fact that Brees was “pile drived” shortly after Favre took the same sort of hit, and no call came.
Now I’m reading comments about how the Saints are dirty and classless because they adopted a strategy of trying to hit Favre. Apparently the Saints were supposed to apologize for showing up, rush 3 and play deep zones all day and feel honored just to be on the same field as the Vikings. I know losing the NFC championship game hurts (we all remember 2007) but this is ridiculous…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 25, 2010 7:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Pretty ridiculous right? I think all their bitching about the refs is rather embarrassing. Like you said, the Saints were absolutely screwed up until the OT period. The calls definitely evened themselves out. The Favre personal foul was absolutely bullshit, and you know for a fact it’s bullshit when Aikman says so. I don’t think Percy was even touched on that “late hit” out of bounds, and even the holding call on Gay was iffy, as he and Percy were both making equal contact with each other.
And I’m sorry but there is no justifying them NOT calling a PI on Leber on that play. Referees really look for face guarding, and this is what Leber did the entire play. He also had both of his hands on him. One could make the argument that Thomas possibly could have fallen because of the contact Leber made to him, and lets keep in mind the referees don’t have the luxury of watching a replay in slow motion like all of us fans do.
Like you touched on, there was absolutely NOT indisuptable evidence that Thomas didn’t get to the 1st down mark or that Henderson didn’t catch that ball.
Some of them saying that Williams is a coward and an animal is just absolutely ridiculous. His mentality has always been hitting the Qb is the best form of defending the pass. The Saints were able to do this, and it definitely had an effect on the game.
One fan even went as far to say that the Vikings-Saints game was the worst officiated game he has ever seen! My eyes just about popped out of my head when I read that.
It’s just kind of funny and ironic because so many of them felt the need to come over here and tell us how many of the calls the referees missed in our game were not actually penalties. We easily had much more to complain about seeing as how the referees legitimately missed 5 calls that heavily influenced the game (2 offensive PI’s on Fitz, blatant holding on Jenkins on Fitz TD, helmet-to-helmet, and contact to the Qb’s head). Despite this many of us were still able to recognize that the real reason we lost was because our defense played the poorest I’ve seen a defense play in a while.
With some of the comments Vikings fans are making, you would think that the Saints played against the Vikings cheerleading squad. Despite what many people thought, the Saints defense out-phyiscaled (not a word haha but work with me) the Vikings offense and it had a large effect on them and all the TOs they gave up.
by packallday555 on Jan 25, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I wish we had thought of that during our games against the Vikes
They were being animals by constantly hitting Aaron Rodgers! What a cowardly game plan! Wait…what’s that? You say that it’s ok for a defense to brutalize an opposing QB…unless that QB is Brett Favre, in which case people need to give him the respect he deserves and let him do whatever he wants.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Fantastic!
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Frankly, this is exactly how I wanted this game to end. It’s not because I necessarily hate Favre anymore—time has softened that emotion to general distaste instead of all-out hatred.
Yes on the first, but it’s totally out of hate. Partially for Favre (my level of hate actually has grown since his feud with Thompson), but more for the Vikings fans who had hated him for 17 years, then welcomed him with open arms and were convinced, convinced that he wouldn’t do it to them, too.
I’ll always respect the guy as a player, even if he makes the dumbest decisions imaginable at the worst possible times. But as a person, my opinion is quite different, and I almost hope that the Land of 10,000 Lakes finds out about that this offseason.
Except they’ll just accept whatever he says and not hold him accountable, just like we did from 2004-2006, he’ll probably come back, and they’ll have a similar season with a (hopefully) similar end.
"Brandon Jennings needs a nickname before he gives himself one. Oh wait, Young Money, he already did."
by Mitchell Maurer on Jan 25, 2010 9:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
nicely said Mitchell
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

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