The Brett Favre Stomach Punch
Despite the fourth quarter interception, it was an absolute pleasure to watch Brett Favre this season.
- Anthony21 at Daily Norseman.
That's the thing about Brett Favre: He's not afraid to throw interceptions. You have to admire him for that...
This is a subject I've been trying to avoid. But I was listening to Bill Simmons' BS report, the one after the Jersey Shore recap, and he devoted an entire episode to the Vikings' final drive against the Saints. His buddy Geoff came on and pointed out all the things the Vikings did wrong in the game (fumbles, any coaching decision by Brad Childress, 12 men in the huddle). Favre's INT was just one of those many Viking mistakes. Yes, he made a terrible decision, throwing a pass into coverage, on the run, and across his body, but he was so great the rest of the game! He was different this season! Though not all Viking fans feel this way.
I can understand why many Viking fans might look at it like Geoff and Anthony. I made a lot of apologizes and defenses for Favre while he was a Packer. Yes, he threw a horrible INT at Philadelphia in the playoffs in 2004. Sure, he gave the NFC Championship away with a terrible INT in OT. But the team wouldn't have made it that far without him, and plenty of other players had the chance to make a big play too. However, only one player was the same for all of those Stomach Punch games: Favre. He was each team's big play maker, expected to make a big play, and he failed. And it wasn't just that he failed to make a big play, but he made his opponent's big play for them.
Maybe it's better to have been 2nd best with Favre than to miss the playoffs without him. But maybe settling for almost isn't enough. Maybe it's why many Eagle fans are ready to move on from the Andy Reid/Donovan McNabb era despite all their wins over the past decade. I've been punched in the stomach by Favre too many times in the past few years, and maybe it's time for the Vikings to punch Favre in the stomach before he can take another shot at them.
0 recs |
58 comments
|
Comments
Someone said it in another thread
I just can’t remember who said it.
Brett Favre may not have lost the game in those situations, but he did seriously affect their chances at winning
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 29, 2010 8:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Put yourself in Vikings fans' shoes, though
For the past two years, the Vikings have had all of the other elements they’ve needed to be a Super Bowl contender: Gamebreaking RB, elite pass rushers, the top run defense in the league.
The only thing holding them back was their complete lack of a competent QB. How wonderful must 2009 have been, then, to finally see the Vikings with a good QB, running like a well-oiled machine, being one of the three or four best teams in the league for the entire season?
If that QB that finally formed the missing piece to your puzzle then went out and threw a back-breaking interception in the NFC Championship Game, sure, you’d be frustrated at the pick, but would you instantly turn around and hate the guy? Of course not. He was the missing piece you signed him to be, after all. You’d want him to come back next year, too, because without him you’ve got Tarvaris Jackson, Michael Vick, or whoever.
Don’t get me wrong, I hate Favre as much as the next guy. But this might be a case of imposing our years of pent-up Favre frustration on a fanbase that doesn’t have reason for that.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 29, 2010 8:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh i get exactly why they don’t want to push the blame on him…he doesn’t deserve it all either. All game the entire team made terrible plays just like that. We did this every year for over 15 years with him…you make excuses for him. They are doing exactly what we did for all those year…exactly what they mocked and ridiculed us for. I guess both sides are getting a taste of their own medicine now! haha
by TrevorR on Jan 29, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally understand that but too see some simply trying to brush his poor decision to the side as if it didn’t effect their chances of them winning that game is silly. Their doing what we did for him for many of his years in GB.
by packallday555 on Jan 29, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with Favre
is that the interception is predictable.
If Favre is getting hit, he will return the favor by throwing interceptions (he threw three in the New Orleans game…sure, one of them was not caught, but not from a lack of effort on Favre’s part).
Favre was very good this year at avoiding the sack and getting a quick completion, so I’m guessing that teams didn’t stick with a plan to get to him and tried to do coverage (which had no chance).
The Saints stuck to the plan, despite giving up 310 passing yards. They hit him every chance they had and Favre responded. If the rest of the league notices this and Favre comes back it is going to be a painful season for him.
by RichBeckman on Jan 29, 2010 8:55 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Great post. When teams can consistently gets hits on Favre it usually results in him making mistakes. It was evident this year, and evident in his last 5-6 years playing with us.
by packallday555 on Jan 29, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that getting to the NFC Championship and losing if closer to the Super Bowl
but for me, the most painful will always be the Philadelphia game because it just felt like we COULDN’T lose that year, like everything was going to go our way no matter what.
by Donald Driver on Jan 29, 2010 10:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, that Philly game was tough, but...
it will always be remembered for 4th and 26, not the Favre interception. The Giants game will always be remembered for the interception. At Lambeau. In the cold. To end his Packers career.
Stomach punch.
by svaustin on Jan 29, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed on both counts
I was at the ‘08 NFC Championship game, and man, that was a painful ending to the game. However, I have no sympathy for the Vikes. Ha! It’s so ironic it’s hilarious.
by spell on Jan 29, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They spent 15 years laughing at us for him being an idiot. Then they all go out and but #4 jerseys this year…only to have us laugh at them for him being an idiot.
by Weldon on Jan 29, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Stomach punch"...?
Like taking a knee to the lower region, more like.
by clincher on Feb 2, 2010 6:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for that one too
I felt like we were more in that game than we were in the Giants game. And when we got the ball in OT, I was feeling pretty good. And then the crazy heave-ho and I just buried my head in my hands. That’s when I started to feel (for many years) that Favre should retire, because it was becoming obvious that he simply did not have it mentally to win the big one again.
by Danwood on Jan 29, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also voted for the Philly game
That was the season Irv Favre died, the Packers hit a hot streak to make the playoffs, and I just felt the Super Bowl was in the cards (even though that game was only a Divisional game).
The Giants game hurt, too, but I wasn’t expecting anything big that season — the NFC Championship in Lambeau was just icing on the cake to a great but unexpected year
by HankO on Jan 29, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
However, only one player was the same for all of those Stomach Punch games: Favre. He was each team’s big play maker, expected to make a big play, and he failed. And it wasn’t just that he failed to make a big play, but he made his opponent’s big play for them.
Exactly, and this is why the Vikings signed Favre. They had a great running game before Favre but not a Qb who they felt could take them to the next level in the playoffs. They signed Favre because they felt he could make defenses pay when they played to stop the run. Something that Jackson could not do, especially against good defenses (which you usually face in the playoffs.) They didn’t sign him so they could have a better regular season record, they signed him because he had playoff experience and they felt that he could lead them to a SB win.
There were plenty of mistakes in that game by the Vikings. A bunch of fumbles, a couple INTs, and a couple of questionable calls by Childress. Despite all those mistakes though, the Vikings still got the ball with 2:00+ on around their own 30 with the score tied. That exact situation was what Favre was brought in for. They brought him in to lead the team to victories in these big game situations, and this particular one he didn’t.
The play Childress called on 3rd and 10 was actually a very smart one. It was designed for a 3-5 yard gain (which would have made the FG 53-56 yards), with Berrian being the primary option running an out route towards the sidelines. This play also featured Rice running a more intermediate route, about 10 yards downfield. Favre had Berrian wide open on the play, and I mean wide open. He also had Rice open, or so he thought. He made a poor decision trying to make a risky throw in order to get more yards, and it was a crucial mistake.
by packallday555 on Jan 29, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Having watched Favre play for the last five or six years here,
I did notice one thing. In the bigger games, he does seem to try to do too much. This is especially true in the playoffs.
In the game at New Orleans, I was thinking “It’s only a matter of time until he does something crazy.” Voila. But this is not the first time that happened, either. The 2003 game at Philadelphia, he should have just thrown the ball out of bounds, but he threw it right to the defender. In the game against the Giants, same story. And who can forget the game against Minnesota at Lambeau Field in 2004? Four interceptions.
The simple fact is, he sometimes tries to carry too much of the load, with disastrous results. The thing is, in football, there are ten other guys out there who also want to win. You might as well use them.
In the team efforts that Green Bay put up in the playoffs, where the team didn’t lean on Favre, they tended to do better. The Seattle game in 2007 comes to mind. That’s just one example, but in that game, Ryan Grant carried more of the load, and a lot of the pressure was off Favre.
If Favre hadn’t tried to do so much in the games I indicated earlier (at Philadelphia in 2003, against Minnesota in 2004, against New York in 2007, and at New Orleans last week), the chances are Favre’s teams play better, maybe even win those games and advance.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 29, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still pissed off
Buckner should have fielded the ground ball, and I will NEVER get over it!!!! I am a Red Sox fan and I intend to let this horrible play fester and affect my entire life so long as it continues!!!
by ktenreb on Jan 29, 2010 12:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's the thing about Bill Buckner.
He’s not afraid to muff that routine ground ball. You’ve got to admire him for that.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 29, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the thing about ktenreb
He knows the only way to be a true fan of a team and he is determined to point out where we “casual fans” are coming up short of his expectations. You gotta admire that.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 29, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the thing about Brent Favre.
He always tries too hard to win the big game, and usually throws away his team’s chances of winning by tossing costly interceptions. You’ve gotta admire that.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 29, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the thing about Steve Bartman....
Alex Gonzalez owes him a life. He got away with muffing a routine double play ball that woulda shoulda coulda ended a Marlin rally and sent the Cubs into the 9th inning of Game 6 with a lead, and possibly on to the National League Pennant. You gotta admire that about AGon.
by clincher on Feb 2, 2010 6:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats so incredible about that play
was that it only forced extra innings. And Mookie Wilson could have just as easily beat it out if Buckner had fielded it cleanly. And when the Red Sox did lose that game, they still had game seven to lose.
And so you can see why, up until last year, there was a growing dark horse contingent of Orioles fans that hate the Red Sox more than the Yankees.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Jan 29, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Orioles fans?
?
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 29, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, there are actual real life Orioles fans like myself
that post on this blog.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Jan 29, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you think the Birds will be this year jobe? What do they need? And of what they need, what are they gonna do?
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 29, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep trying to convince myself we can finish third in the AL East
Its a pretty tough sell though, but I think the Jays have all but relinquished fourth place to us however.
Our offseason acquisitions of Tejada, Mike Gonzalez, Garrett Atkins, and Kevin Millwood have been more or less received negatively, but the only signing I outright don’t like is the Atkins deal (and to play first base?). Otherwise, I thought we made this years club more competitive without really compromising the chances of future teams down the road.
As acclaimed as Nick Markakis and Adam Jones are, they really did not have good offensive years last year. Besides the horrible starting staff (especially with an off year by Jeremy Guthrie) that was a big factor in us finishing with ninety-eight losses.
What the O’s need is a deal that brings more depth to the organization, and if that means trading Luke Scott, then so be it.
Oh yeah, and everybody over at Camden Chat is getting Erik Bedard fever.
How about the Milwaukees though? From my uninformed perspective, it sure looks like you guys didn’t really get better, but for what its worth, neither did St. Louis or Chicago. Are there legitimate playoff hopes in Milwaukee?
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Jan 29, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The interception
was grimly ironic, but the reason he was trying to force a play was the bonehead penalty that moved the ball out of FG range.
Are we ever just going to let him go? He’s other teams’ problem now…
by rudi on Jan 29, 2010 1:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
After this
I think we can finally get some closure…until the third preseason games when he makes a decision on if he wants to play
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 29, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get closure?
We are Packer fans, some of us more serious than others, and yet we can’t seem to let go of an ex-player. Curse Don Hudson!
by ktenreb on Jan 29, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And some of the more serious fans can’t seem to get over the fact that others are talking about a ex-Packer. Thankfully they always are here to remind us how casual we are.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 29, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good post
Unfortunatley for all of you the answer will be no, as long as he’s still an active player. And who knows the obsession could last into his retirement as well.
by dsludo on Jan 29, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve let him go…he’s your PROBLEM now! :-D
by TrevorR on Jan 29, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the will he/won't he retire talk
Is now on your end, deludo.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 29, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen this video?
That’s the thing about Tom Jackson. He’s not afraid to make himself look like an idiot on national television. You’ve got to admire him for that.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 29, 2010 1:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think this link says it all
by shaftr on Jan 29, 2010 4:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
CHFF
I wonder if the guys at CHFF will want to rethink the #10 All TIme rating they gave #4?! It is exacly those kind of throws that got him only #10 and not alot higher after all… Maybe time to move #11 into the Top 10 and move #4 down in the rankings!!!
BTW-I am still LMAO about that throw and the queens being eliminated from the playoffs by it!!!
by Strohman on Jan 29, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 29, 2010 4:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Very nice!
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2010 2:58 PM EST
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 29, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great?
A direct quote from the blog post…
“Yes, he made a terrible decision, throwing a pass into coverage, on the run, and across his body, but he was so great the rest of the game!”
I don’t know about you, but I don’t think a game QB rating of 71 is anywhere near great!!! In fact, I would say its POOR! Generally a winning QB rating is in the 90’s, so #4’s 71 rating is NOT what is necessary for his team to win!!! PERIOD!!!
Now #4 played courageous and led his team, and until the final throw he gave them a chance to win, but he did NOT play to the level to ensure they won. And in the end, he did what he has done for the past DECADE. He threw the game away with a boneheaded throw, when his team needed him to play smart!
Like I said… That is NOT great QB play in any sense of the word!!
by Strohman on Jan 29, 2010 7:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The first thing that comes to my head when I hear the word bonehead is Favre. I can’t remember how many times I heard my dad call him a bonehead when I was younger haha.
by packallday555 on Jan 30, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Favre / just getting there
Well I am neither a Viking or a Saint fan but to all of those who say wel lthe team did better than other teams at least they got there well in a sense I guess that is true but it is just like the people who get nominated for a Academy Award but lose and they say well it was a honor to be nominated wel lyes it was but the object of the football game is not ot just get to the play offs but g oto the Super Bowl and win….Which is easier said than done however a seasoned quarterback like Favre shoul learn from his past recklessness that with the game on the line protect the ball. They were in their kickers rang already he could of threw the ball away or ran and slid and let the guy kick and have confidence in that short time the defense would of held them.Favre has a knack for making ROOKIE mistakes for as many years as he has played ……I may be wrong but I think his EGO is inflated to where he wanted to be the hero of the game and throw a touchdown and instead now in a lot of peoples eyes he is not the hero. i d onot put the blame on him as it should not of got that close of game however he did not do much to salvage the Vikes chances in the last 2 minutes of the game .
by tootie on Jan 29, 2010 8:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rofl
While I’m not entirely surprised a Packer blog has so many anti-Favre comments, it’s surprising to see the complete lack of football knowledge displayed in favor of bashing out of pure spite. It’s sad to see.
In both of those games listed Brett Favre was not the most important playmaker, he was THE only playmaker on the field for the Packer’s offense. I remember the Eagles and Giants game. Both games saw the feature back of the moment disappear and be completely ineffective.
I don’t see anybody blaming Ahman Green for making their offense one dimensional in that Eagles game. And I don’t see anyone mentioning Ryan Grants 29 yards in the Giants game either. The fact of the matter is Brett was the only playmaker in Green Bay for years, and had to take risks to help his team win. The most painful thing for Packers fans now is that they see how good Brett could be with other playmakers around him.
Brett didn’t lose that game against the Saints on his own. He wasn’t even the one fumbling the ball or pushing his team back out of field goal range for being in the huddle. It’s clear Packers fans just have an axe to grind, but it’s sad they ignore the truth in favor of it.
by Santiagob on Jan 30, 2010 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You do realize that Ahman Green had nearly 160 yards rushing in that game against the Eagles.
And Ryan Grant had 13 carries and that the WR’s were dropping passes like crazy. I understand the point that it is hard to blame one person for a loss. But when you say we lack “football knowledge,” you should probably have a spoonful of that yourself before making yourself look foolish. To speak the truth, you must actually support it in your premise.
Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge
by Bush League All Star on Jan 30, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just posted something about that too…what a ridiculous, unresearched post by Satniagob. Child please.
by TrevorR on Jan 30, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No on is saying his play in either game wasn’t very good, but what is laughable is people who only give him credit for the good plays. BUT lets not pretend Favre put up some SICK numbers in that Giants game. He completed just over 50% of his passes and threw 2 INTs…not exactly pro bowl numbers there. I am not however pretending that we would have gotten there without him, he had a GREAT year for us that year. Ahman ran for over 150 yards in the Eagles game thoguh so I guess I don’t see the point of that reference!!! Lets try to stick to the facts, the only reason you are talking about those games are because they ended the same way. We have ALWAYS given Favre credit for the good, we are just done making excuses for the bad.
by TrevorR on Jan 30, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also we all know that game would have ended differently had the coin toss gone the other way. That’s the difference in a game that epic, a simple coin toss. Try talking up your own team instead of bashing another.
by Santiagob on Jan 30, 2010 1:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It would have? Really? We know that? Something tells me you haven’t watched much football in your short life.
by TrevorR on Jan 30, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha gosh, another guy who says absolutely ridiculous things in defense of Favre.
by packallday555 on Jan 30, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Favre
He should have broken up that 4th-and-26 pass. He’s just a plain old loser in the curnch.
by ktenreb on Feb 4, 2010 9:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t have needed a coin toss if he hadn’t thrown away a chance at the game at the end.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Jan 30, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. It’s just crazy too me that some Vikings fans are acting like the chances of Longwell making a 55-57 yard FG are like 0%. While I don’t think he had great chances of making it by any means he was 8-8 on his last 50+ yard FG attempts, and they were playing in a dome.
by packallday555 on Jan 31, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen an equal number of them that act like its 100%. Honestly, a 56 yarder is a LONG FG, even in a dome. His longest in practice was like 55 and that was with no pressure. He hasn’t made one that long in his career. It would have been a longshot…but its better than no shot I guess.
by TrevorR on Feb 1, 2010 7:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I heard some people talking like that too. He probably only really has a 30-40% of making a 55 yarder. If I were a Vikings fan though I would have at least wanted to see my kicker attempt the game winner. Hell, I think I would even want to see Crosby attempt a 55 yard FG as opposed to Rodgers throwing a pick.
by packallday555 on Feb 1, 2010 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
especially as time expires
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
by verno329 on Feb 2, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To paraphrase McCarthy
Whenever you are relying on the coin toss to win the game for you, you are in ‘excuses’ mode.
-
The glass is more than half-full.
by NorthStarr on Jan 31, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see that success still requires a spine
Favre had his best year passing, ever. In his (subconscious) desire to prove Thompson, Packers fans, and critics wrong, he stopped making those awful ‘punch-in-the-gut’ throwing errors. That is, until his last pass of the season. Perfect karma and perfect Viking karma. With that, the karma slate is clean for all parties.
After witnessing the spineless coaching behaviors by Childress and Brett fulfilling his secret agenda of being a Viking, I was hoping human evolution had not degraded so much to validate such behaviors with true success. This would have been a death blow to humanity at a larger level.
Favre was a champ in that game, but things played out as needed.
Time to let him go and let be.
by docg on Jan 31, 2010 3:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

by 


















