Packers Injury Update: Aaron Rodgers, Jermichael Finley, and Nick Barnett
by Brandon on Oct 11, 2010 4:56 PM CDT
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I've been expecting the worst, but the latest news is not as bad as it could be.
Greg Bedard reports that TE Jermichael Finley is out 3-6 weeks, and while LB Nick Barnett needs surgery, he could return before the end of the season. When I saw Finley carted off on Sunday, I was assuming his season was over, so this is obviously much better news. If Barnett returns at all in 2010, it will be a bonus.
Greg Bedard also speculates that maybe QB Aaron Rodgers suffered his concussion on the quarterback sneak. Maybe, but I was wondering if it happened on the hit he took from LB Brian Orakpo late in the 4th quarter. See the picture above. If even QB Matt Flynn couldn't tell there was a problem, I'm not sure anyone else will be able to pinpoint the exact hit. Either way, let's hope he's cleared to practice later this week.
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Hopefully this will get Quarless some experience
He looks like he could be really good if he stops making mistakes. It’d be nice to get some 2-TE formations going later in the season to create mismatches while slowing down the pass rush.
I hate the thought of Rodgers having a concussion. I hope they are really cautious with him. I’d rather have him miss some time than see any long-term problems. Maybe we’ll spend more draft picks on o-linemen in the next draft.
Bishop – looks really good at times, but like Quarless also makes mistakes. Another guy that could really contribute when given a chance. It would be nice to see him playing next to Barnett for the final stretch. I just don’t think Hawk is ever going to elevate his game.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 11, 2010 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
I meant
Bishop could really contribute if he gets some more experience.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 11, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Concussions can occur from a series of hits too, perhaps thats what happened
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Is there going to be any looking into the hit on Rodgers at the end of the game?
Orakpo
by Bush League All Star on Oct 11, 2010 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
Sorry...that was weird. It just autoresponded...
But as I was going to say,
Orakpo looked like he lunged his head at Rodger’s helmet in order to a) strike him there, b) maybe attempt to not hit him, but did, or c) hell I don’t know why he would do that. With this new approach to protecting the QB—whether you agree with it or not—it seems like a fine is in order.
Gah, it just seems like those types of hits are costing us. We get called on it when Zombo does it, we lose. We don’t get the call when it happens to Rodgers, we lose! There are other reasons we lost though, but this makes it a little easier to take albeit not exactly comforting to have a player go out like that.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 11, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
It does seem like a lot of these close penalties
go against us. Now I don’t think the hit on the INT was close at all. Hit him in the helmet whether he meant to or tried to stop he did it, gotta see the flag. Zombo got it called when he hit Cutler coming off a block and Cutler stepping into the hit so why don’t we see it here. Same w/ the facemask at the end of the Playoff game last year.
It seems like our QBs never get that kind of call… Favre used to never draw penalties like he does now, so is it just the mindset that GB is about tough teams and they should be able to take those type of hits or what because I don’t understand how the flag doesn’t come out then
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 11, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
we have cap room
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i remember
the commentators even saying something along the lines of “rodgers looks a little woozy” and then they went to commercial. i believe it was in the 4th quarter on that failed FG winning drive. i might be wrong though!
2nd string defense...
AND Matt Flynn, Andrew Quarless…. what exactly did the Packers do to piss off the football gods?
There's no guarantee AR will be around 10-15 yrs.
Could end on any play. That’s why I say you try to win when you get the chance, not sit on your hands and HOPE everything will be ok. We better get this guy some help before he gets killed.
No guarantee!!
They better get him some damn help TT better do something, because if we miss the damn playoffs and not make it to the big game some butts need to put on the HOT PLATE.
no doubt
Concussion
Was definitely from the final hit by Orakpo. Could clearly see Rodgers head snap back against the turf and to add insult Orakpo then hit him helmet to helmet while landing on him… That was the concussion, not the goalline play where he might have looked “woozy”…
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With all the penalties that have been added after the fact (fines)
it seems like if Goodell finds out about that hit he’s going to fine the **** out of Orakpo. And I can’t feel sorry for him at all.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 11, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 11, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Bedard at JS Online has an interesting comment on Rodgers’ performance after the sneak, suggesting that the concussion might have come earlier.
Are WE Winning A Superbowl this Year?
It seems to me that every year we as Packers fans’ lose out somewhere. Sunday’s game had me so disgusted, and for what reasons. You name them, penalties, great first half but no adjustments for the second half. I was a firm believer in them going to the Big Game and taking it all. Concussion to our quarterback, tell me what the hell is going on out there in Cheese head land. Somebody tell me something. My behind is all the way in Atlanta GA and im no damn Falcons fan. The Packers better turn this crap around and fast.
no doubt
I'm afraid you are right
This team has holes, and the injuries magnify them. There has been some bad luck with injuries, but then injuries are part of the game and the roster has to be constructed to anticipate at least some of them. Thompson did not construct a proper roster in that (i) he had no legitimate backup running back (and refused to try to get one when he had the chance after Grant went down), (ii) there is no depth at QB (hasn’t been since Favre left), and (iii) there is no depth at safety. These are roster failings by the GM. Running out of linebackers and tight ends is not a roster failing by the GM — that falls into the category of unforseeable bad luck because there was a sufficient number of decent players on the roster at those positions.
Last year I called out a lot of people for TT hate
But I’m coming around on it. Prior to week 1 our RB situation seemed no worse than most teams. Yes, the dropoff from Grant to Jackson was steep but still not terrible if everyone was healthy. But once Grant went down and nothing was completed, that was a serious error. I am sure that there have been talks not known to the public, but in the end, nothing happened, and that is on TT.
The only thing lacking at QB is proven depth, I guess. Flynn has talent for sure. Whether it has meshed at a pro-level remains to be seen (and could be tested in less than a week). But even if Flynn was #2, I agree that having a #3 like Shaun Hill would be beneficial.
Sure there are things TT could do to improve this team but ultimately its a deep team with lots of talented players. You can’t be deep at every position, there will always be a position where you don’t have adaquate depth. I would like to see a proven vet on the bench at QB though just in case.
Deep?
If you mean that potentially we’ll be deep at the bottom of our division, then I agree with you. There is no way in heck that this is or was a deep team – at some positions, yes, but not as a team.
This comment doesn't make any sense
I can think of two positions where the Packers aren’t very deep, and those are RB and QB. Very deep at FB and TE, deep at WR, above average depth at OT, average depth at G and C, average to above average depth D-line, above average depth LB, average depth CB, average depth S.
Maybe you’ll disagree with me on a couple of these, but to say this isn’t a deep team is absolutely ridiculous.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
I'm calling Safety average
because we still have Bigby coming off the PUP, Collins and Burnett were starters, and Peprah actually played pretty well against the Redskins I thought.
As far as fullbacks, I wish we would have kept only two since Kuhn and Hall are very similar players, but given that Kuhn can do a decent HB imitation I’m OK with that.
But even I Safety is thin, I don’t see how Jurp comes off saying that the Packers aren’t a deep team.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
the only team that is deep at QB, is the eagles
and thats because they have Michael Vick. Really, if any other team loses a QB for a full season, they’re screwed. If the backup can be serviceable for one start, you are fine at QB depth
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OK
Without naming people. What would your breakdown of the 53 man roster be? like how many people at each position would you keep?
Like QB-2, RB-3, WR-5, etc etc… Every position 53 spots… GO
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 13, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't referring necessarily to position numbers
But to TALENTED players on the second team. For example- Justin Harrell? Jarrett Bush? And, I know he played better than I expected (except for 2 crucial mistakes), Charlie Peprah? No true halfback after Jackson?
I like our O line this year, for the most part, and the D line, but not the backup CBs or safeties, RB is a joke, too many FBs, LBs are great – glad they kept Zombo, if only for his name :), I thought we kept too many TEs (I’d’ve cut Crabtree and tried to get him on the practice squad) – altho circumstances have since proved me wrong, unfortunately. WRs – I’ve never liked Jones – too many drops, although now Driver is also dropping them, too.
So – I think we are PROPERLY deep at QB, LB, WR, Oline, Dline, and I would now add TE, due to injury, but nowhere else.
I don't think there are many teams out there
That are happy with their backup CBs. I think TT did a sufficient job getting depth at CB and Safety if you throw in Harris and Bigby on the PUP.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
So to summarize
You think we’re deep at 6 positions and shallow at 3 (RB, CB, and safety [did I miss any]) yet say this is not a deep team. Furthermore lets break down those 4 positions
RB – Grant and Jackson with James Starks on PuP due back in week 7… you don’t expect to lose your starting back in week 1 like we did but going into the season suiting up 2 HB’s and 3FBs (one who can fill in as a HB) seems pretty deep to me especially knowing you’re getting a 3rd HB at week 7
CB – Charles Woodson, Sam Shields, Tramon WIlliams, Pat Lee, Brandon Underwood with Al Harris on PuP due back in week 7… thats 5 players for a position you field 2 or 3 of at a time w/ another one coming back in week 7. Are Lee and Underwood #1 CB’s? No, but find me a team that fields 4-5 top quality CBs
Safety – Nick Collins, Morgan Burnett, Derrick Martin, Charlie Peprah, Jarrett Bush with Atari Bigby on PuP due back in week 7… Again 4 1/2 players at this position (Jarrett counts as 1/2 a player) (did you guys really think I could mention Jarrett Bush and not make a dig at him) with another due back in week 7.
I fail to see how you think we weren’t deep at these positions since we started the year w/ 2 HB’s and 3 FB’s, 5 CB’s, and 4.5 Safeties. The depth looks a lot worse since we’ve had 1-2 big injuries at those positions so now our 2 and 3rd stringers have to play against number ones. But again, find me 1 team in the league that would feel confident putting their second string team on the field.
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 13, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
now he reveals his TT hate again
Im amazed though at how long you’ve keep the rodgers hate bottled up
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by blackoutsox on Oct 12, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Where do you get this "Rodgers hate" stuff?
Aaron Rodgers is developing into a terrific quarterback. At the beginning of the 2008 season I was bummed because I thought that a team that played in the NFC Title Game should not run off its Pro Bowl quarterback because doing so was not consistent with getting to the Super Bowl. That was two years ago, and I never trashed Rodgers.
The teams 2010 roster was light on running backs and QBs, and I blame Thompson for that. It was not light on LBs or TEs, and even though we are now short of them, that’s not Thompson’s fault.
I believe that you are stalking me . . . .
not likely BUT plenty of time to get things turned around. If we keep playing like we are now (and keep losing 5 starters a week) we have no chance. Maybe TT needs to fire someone just to light a fire under everyone’s asses! Who should the scapegoat be? The ST guy? Some equipment guy? A trainer?
He should start by firing himself
A GM CANNOT build a team on his own draft choices and expect to win a championship – not nowadays, at least. A good GM grabs other teams’ picks, like Dallas in the early 90s and NE in 2011 (they’re going to have a killer draft and probably win 6 SBs in a row at the rate those jerks are going) and makes intelligent (and lucky) free agent signings. Did Wolf build from the draft? Sure, but he brought in the players that it took to WIN. Does TT think we would’ve won SB 31 without Reggie and Santana Dotson. And Andre Rison – whom TT got after our #1 receiver went down? Hell no!
So, Wolf grabs Rison and TT, when Grant goes down, sits on his hands. Now, there probably were talks, but Lynch wasn’t traded for a heckuva lot so, what was he waiting for? Lynch to be cut? Who the hell knows?
I used to like TT, but I am now so fed up with him that I’m just about to give up on the Pack like I did with the Brewers in 1994 – haven’t watched a complete Brewers game since, and I had been to every opener from 1970 to 1977 and then to at least 2 games a year after that!
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!
Shit, I think I need a Tylenol…
Calm down
Let’s break this down bit by bit.
You tell me Wolfe brought in Santana and Reggie. I point out that TT signed Charles Woodson and Ryan Pickett.
The section about Drafts confuses me a bit. You start off saying that a GM can’t build his team from his own picks but then point out a team like the Patriots who do nothing but accumulate draft picks. That seems contradictory to me, do you think it’s better to have a ton of draft picks or to trade them away for people already in the league?
The Rison situation is a different situation, Wolfe didn’t have to give up anything to get him. If he has to give up a 3rd round pick does Ron Wolfe still do it? Who knows.
As far as the Lynch thing, that’s the one thing I’ve really disagreed w/ TT on. However, w/ our minimal commitment to the run game, it doesn’t really matter who we have in our backfield and that’s on the coach, not the GM. Maybe if we would show some commitment on the run I’d be less forgiving of the Lynch no deal
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 13, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I support literally everything in this comment
Thank you for reading my mind. Have a tasty Rec my good sir.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
I meant the team's OWN draft picks
The seven they receive every year based on record. I thought I made that clear – sorry. I believe it’s better, if you want to build your team via the draft, to have a ton of early round picks – you just don’t have the time these days to draft too many projects.
Wolf also brought in the DE from Houston (argh, I keep forgetting his name – Jones?) – when he retired after ’96 we tried replacing him with Gabe (“One Great Interception”) Wilkins, who sat out a good portion of SB 32 due to injury.
My point is – TT can’t use just the Packers 7 picks and an occasion 4-7 pick to build a winner. I think he MUST use free agency and an occasional trade to do it.
TT goes after free agents
He thinks will be a benefit to us and have good characters. Has he missed on some potential free agents? Yes, Randy Moss comes to mind, but at the time Moss was coming out of a horrible situation in Oakland where he had just quit on the team (I think he did this near the end of his tenure in Minny part 1 too). Hindsight, Moss would’ve been a hell of a grab, but I don’t know if the risk was worth it back then. The free agent pool this year sucked and I’m glad we don’t have GM who signs FAs just to sign FAs. He came in w/ a monster of a mess (Thanks Sherman) and has cleaned it up remarkably.
The last part seems contradictory to me as well… You want a team to maintain as many draft picks as possible but at the same time want him to trade away his draft picks… I’m not sure I follow on how that works
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 13, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
WHHHHHAT!?!?!? The GMs that are winning and successful are doing exactly what TT is doing: Pittsburgh and Indy are great examples.
ON top of that…did you just put Santana Dotson down as a key acquisition in us winning a super bowl?
I do agree that it would be nice to see a move be made occasionally but if you are trying to argue that TT isn’t doing his job well…well then you do need some medication.
There is one consolation
in being that after this game, we can potentially get our players on the PUP list back so that should help fill some of the holes if the players are ready
This injury bug is now more than just "bad luck"
This has now become a matter of poor conditioning. When the special teams struggles the special team coach is held accountable, when the offense struggles it is on the offensive coordinator…same with defense. So when things like this become more than just “bad luck”..the strength/conditioning coaches should be held liable to some degree at seasons end. IMHO
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Certainly possible
At the beginning of the year the talk was of a new approach to conditioning. The idea sounded fine in theory. It was about less straight lifting and running (traditional strength and endurance training) to more football type of conditioning; getting strength in football-type movements, etc.
Having had similar surgery to Finley’s many years ago, I know that simple knee extensions, leg curls, etc., on weight machines makes a huge difference for me. This has been the standard word for some time, strengthen the muscles and flexibility around joints and joint injuries can be avoided to some extent.
As a former S & C Coach
I can tell you that leg ext and leg curls are not that good for your knees! Extensions are actually BAD for knees! So your info is entirely outdated! Packers S and C is fine… Doing football related exercises w/ moderate wt. Exercises like squats, lunges and any of the other “triple extension” exercises are the way to train. I had the chance to review the Packers workouts when they were posted on packers.com and they were very good workouts and totally legit for football players!
S and C helps prevent injuries, but really only limited extent. The game is violent and some injuries are entirely unpreventable. Most injuries….
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