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I follow a lot of Packers religiously on the twittersphere and one of the guys I've been interested in keeping up on is our old friend Will Blackmon. You may remember him. Often injured, seemed to have a decent preseason, tied for the franchise record with Desmond Howard in kick return TDs, was completely blindsided by his release in the 53 man cutdowns.

This much is obvious: We're hurting. Badly. We need help on defense, offense, you name it. This is a bad time to be using Jordy Nelson at kick return and Tramon Williams at punt return when Jermichael Finley and Morgan Burnett are out for extended time. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a guy who could back-up at safety and return kicks? 

As some of you may or may not know, Blackmon's injury settlement for the Packers means that he's currently a free agent and although he may not sign with the Packers until Week 9, he's been hinting at a return for a bit. To what team is a bit cryptic at the moment. More after the jump..

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Here's the first tweet that caught my eye..

On Oct. 11th.."@Aaron_Nagler I'm gonna. Wait until the week of the 26th. We might be neighbors lol."

(Aaron Nagler, FYI, lives in New York but runs CheeseheadTV and is an NFL blogger usually covering Packers stories)

He also put out some tweets regarding possibly signing with the Pats (they aren't even on the list!) as well as his idolizing Desmond Howard while growing up. Now two weeks from now isn't exactly week 9, but it is close enough to make me think he could go back to GB and start working out, see where he's at with his rehab, and bring him back. 

Even though Atari Bigby and Al Harris are going to be back by then, I have my reservations about both guys. Al Harris hasn't had any sort of meaningful football activity in well over a year. This isn't like quarterback, kicker, or even offensive lineman where you can get back in there if you're healthy and know the system. Outside of running back, few positions fall harder faster in physical ability than the guys on the outside, the cornerbacks and wide receivers. Harris was, by all accounts statistical and otherwise, burnt when he was playing last year. Tramon Williams is clearly a better corner than he is at the moment, and especially in the zone scheme we play. Bigby has also been out for a while; he's going to take some time to shake the rust off and be able to perform. 

I've heard a lot of people talking about James Starks in the return game as well as at running back and that talk needs to be put to rest right away, too. For one thing, Starks not only missed the whole offseason this year but also missed his entire last year of college as well due to injury. If he's at all available to be activated from the PUP list, there's no way he can make any sort of immediate impact. 

Which brings me back to Will Blackmon. Blackmon was training at safety this offseason and from what I saw and heard, didn't look too bad doing it. We all know what he can do in the return game as well. I'd be pretty open to Aaron Stecker coming on board, but he's been away from the game for a while. Our depth in the secondary is a tremendous issue right now, and the return game was a problem even from the beginning. Any ideas out there?

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He’s still not healthy. I think the Packers are keeping in touch, but he had some setbacks this summer/preseason with his surgically repaired knee. He might be this year’s Tauscher who was signed mid-season after he was good enough to play.

by Brandon on Oct 13, 2010 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm interested to see

if the Packers make a move to resign DeShawn Wynn, who was released by the Saints on Tuesday.

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by GoGregGo on Oct 13, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I just did a fanpost about this (well about a lot of things but this was one of them). Its a logical move at this point!

by TrevorR on Oct 13, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would also be a really smart move

But I wonder how much Wynn’s got left too. He got cut by us and the Saints, who also need help in the backfield.

by vitaminx on Oct 13, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

RB and KR are ability positions

I think that if Stark has the talent, he can come in a contribute quickly. That is a big if! But at most positions there is a steep learning curve from college to the NFL, but RBs and KRs can get by with talent, strength, and speed.

by MikeDB on Oct 13, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

I just don't see

how a guy who hasn’t played competitive football in close to two years is going to contribute quickly.

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by GoGregGo on Oct 13, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can’t remember names, but it has happened a few times over the past few decades where a team picked up a street free agent, who was working outside of football, to run back kicks and the did very well.

KR and RB are positions that really depend on natural, God-given ability. WRs need to learn how to run good crisp routes, to read defenses, and to anticipate their QB. OL needs to learn techniques, footwork, pad level, playbook, etc. Similar for DL, with the addition of learning where they must be on each play in different situations. Pass rushers can excel through natural ability before they get good coaching on technique.

If anyone can contribute quickly after not playing for a while, it will be a RB or KR. I’d be pleasantly surprised if Starks did contribute a lot to the running game, less so if he did in the return game.

by MikeDB on Oct 13, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I'm sure there have been street free agents who have made quick impacts

I’d be willing to be those were all players who had played in the NFL prior to being free agents. Starks has never seen the speed of the NFL game first hand, and the guy’s been injured. All those street free agents I’m sure were still keeping in tip-tip shape while out of football, which is something that I’m sure Starks was not able to do.

I’m hoping he’ll be able to make an impact, but I’m certainly not counting on it.

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by GoGregGo on Oct 13, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would think Starks should be in excellent shape right now, depending a little on how bad his hammy was. But he got it early in the offseason so its been awhile. Being on PUP should have given him time to recover and get in excellent overall shape. Couple weeks of practice should get him in game shape and get him adjusted to type of speed he’ll see on game day!

I think he can be productive relatively quickly also… 2-3 weeks after the PUP list removal and some practice. RB usually make pretty immediate contributions in the NFL, assuming they have the talent. WHich I think he does!

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by Strohman on Oct 14, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

"RB usually make pretty immediate contributions in the NFL, assuming they have the talent. WHich I think he does!"

Wow…what a contradiction! Yup…rookie with no time playing with the starting team is up and at em in two weeks but it takes Lynch 6 weeks…right?

By the way…
Coach Pete Carroll is one of the excited one’s. “I think he really has the full range of ability to do whatever we want to do,” Carroll said. “Now we’re anxious to see how it fits together. And he’s going to get a lot of work in this game; he’s doing really well picking things up.”

by TrevorR on Oct 14, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Starks has was in GB for all OTA's, minicamps and training camp!

Hes had the playbook for what 6 months now?! Lynch was in a different system learning those plays for those 6 months. THe entire playbook is a series of learning progressions. Starks has had all those progressions, so the concepts are all intact… Lynch would walk in completely ignorant of our playbook and those learning progressions. He would have to learn everything on the fly w/ no progressions!

Clearly you never listen when the coaches talk about being teachers! They are continually teaching during the offseason! You can put Lynch on the field w/ a few plays for him each week, but that doesn’t mean he is going to be fully integrated into the offense!

Why do you think Nance hasn’t seen the field for goiing on 5 weeks now? He doesn’t know the playbook!!!

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by Strohman on Oct 14, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot that minicamp drills and playing in games are the same thing…sorry that was my mistake. I am sure Starks will be out there in game one due to his study skills.

by TrevorR on Oct 15, 2010 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never said offseason was the same as games

But having had the playbook for 6 months now he knows the offense and just needs to transfer that too the field. A few weeks to do that and also get in game shape and he should be ready wk 8 or 9.

Any other reason why Nance hasn’t seen the field? Not like our RB are much more than pedestrian to this point. Jackson had one good game last week but still, he’s been vastly pedestrian since Grant went down.

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by Strohman on Oct 15, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’s a poor blocker. Maybe he just sucks. Maybe they don’t like him. Maybe they just like the two guys that are out there more. Maybe he was never meant to be more than bench depth. Maybe he’s just really raw and they don’t trust him.

Or we could just assume its cause he’s an idiot who takes 6 weeks to pick up a playbook.

by TrevorR on Oct 16, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

He hasn't even been given the chance!

Unless you count 2 carries in his first game in GB as a chance. I don’t! ANd like you said about Starks, practice is entirely different than games! If they didn’t like him, he wouldn’t still be on the roster. They would have released him a couple weeks ago and picked up some other young RB on a practice squad or off waivers.

Took Grant 9 weeks to know it enough to get on the field, or we can assume he was an idiot even though he went to school at Notre Dame!

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by Strohman on Oct 16, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guy, can we please not have this argument again?

Neither of you is going to change the other’s mind.

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by GoGregGo on Oct 16, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guys*

I can’t type

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by GoGregGo on Oct 16, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the way, he was NOT there for training camp…at least not practicing…or he couldn’t be on the PUP list.

by TrevorR on Oct 15, 2010 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Blackmon return

By that I mean, return to the Packers and return kicks/punts.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 13, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm hopefull about Starks

but I wont hold my breath. Why would the Pack give Blackmon an injury settlement and then resign him? I’m not expectiing much out of Harris or Bigby. And, why havent we seen that Nance guy?

by bigbill992001 on Oct 13, 2010 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Same thing we did with Tauscher last year

So he wouldn’t count against the cap or a roster spot. Also the Pack kept him for a couple weeks from signing with another team (during the free agent frenzy just before the season starts) and keep him paid well enough that he would consider a return.

by vitaminx on Oct 13, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nance doesn't know the offense!!!

Good Lord, get it thru your head! At least Starks was in the playbook all offseason. So he should be able to help w/in a couple weeks after PUP! just needs to get in game shape and some practice. Offseason is one big classroom and Nance was in detention, not class all offseason!!!

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by Strohman on Oct 14, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

What proof do you have that STarks does. He’s never played a snap in it, unless you count him having his friends over in the living room.

Nance is still many, many weeks ahead of having any impact on the team than Starks is…

by TrevorR on Oct 14, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clearly

You don’t know anything about teaching something complex like a playbook! Starks has had the playbook and been exposed to it for the past 6 months! He’s been thru all the learning progressions involved… So every week is building upon the week before it! Its not just Rote memorization!! Concepts and progressions are constantly building upon each other. I know Starks hasn’t been on the field for the physical plays, but he was still in the meetings all during the offseason. And during the season while on PUP I believe he can still be in meetings just not on the field! Once he gets on the field, it won’t take long at all to put what he has learned into practice!

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by Strohman on Oct 15, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nance

had 2 carries the 1st game after he came here then nothing. Dont tell me he doesnt know some plays. If he’s THAT dumb then let him go. Hey, I dont care WHO gets the carries as long as they produce.

by bigbill992001 on Oct 15, 2010 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly…Nance hasn’t played because they haven’t seen anything from him. PERIOD.

by TrevorR on Oct 15, 2010 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’s frustrating too because I actually liked him based off of those first two carries. Granted, they were only two haha. He seems like he’s a perfect fit for a zone blocking scheme. He makes quick cuts, and seems to have pretty good vision (based on the videos I’ve found on him which again isn’t much).

by packallday555 on Oct 15, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

He also hasn’t worked with the team or with the coaches this entire time. I think you know this, but players on the PUP list can’t practice with the team. Sure they can be in meetings but that doesn’t really do much for them. So great, he can sit there and listen to stuff and still never apply it. What makes things stick is applying it. Head knowledge doesn’t get you far.

by TrevorR on Oct 15, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember reading an article recently about Starks and our other guys coming off the PUP, and it had a few quotes from Starks that were basically saying that he was hoping to make an impact as soon as he saw the field. The article kind of made it seem like that would be sooner rather than later but I don’t know for sure.

by packallday555 on Oct 15, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah…we’ll see. I hope he can and does. I doubt it but that would be EXCELLENT. My FF team would love to see that happen as I grabbed him for bench depth! :-)

by TrevorR on Oct 16, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will’s Twitterfeed pretty strongly suggests he has no interest in returning to GB.

by GinSlinger on Oct 16, 2010 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

don't care about his twitter feed.

If it gets to be wk 10 and he isn’t on another team do you think he is gonna say No to the Packers? HELL no…

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by Strohman on Oct 16, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Packer going to offer him #27? I dunno man, week 10 is a long way off right now.

by GinSlinger on Oct 16, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

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