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Brett Favre and His Return (Again)To Lambeau

One of the lowlights I've ever had as a fan of the Green Bay Packers happened last year. I was expecting them to show up with a lot of pride and energy when the Minnesota Vikings played at Lambeau last November, but instead they went down by 21 points early in the 3rd quarter, and I watched as QB Brett Favre looked profoundly smug on the sidelines in the closing minutes.

There's no word on how his meeting went for possible violation of the league's personal conduct policy, but it's pretty safe to assume it won't have any impact on his availability for Sunday's game.

In the Sports Illustrated preview issue, QB Aaron Rodgers was quoted saying "I think we put too much emphasis" on the two Vikings games last season. 

According to the Journal-Sentinel, the players quoted don't think it'll be like 2009 again this season. It certainly feels different to me. The Packers record isn't much different than this time last year, but the Vikings are staring at a losing record and Favre's QB rating is down in the QB Alex Smith and QB Bruce Gradowski dumpster. 

It's an important divisional game nonetheless, and it's the Vikings game no matter what, but how different does this game feel compared to last year?

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Another aspect to this game is to get people off the edge of the cliff. We are going through a very difficult time right now with so many guys on IR or out for a few weeks. A lot of that obviously isn’t going to change for the season, but if we beat the Vikings and stop the losing streak, we can relax a bit and realize that no one really looks good in the NFC and we still have a shot. A lot of season left and, hopefully, the guys we do get back like Harris and Bigby can help us get back to the form we all expected at the beginning of the season.

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TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!

The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Oct 20, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah a win would be not only a HUGE confidence booster but it would really destroy the Vikings morale and put us into a potential tie with the Bears. If we lose the free fall continues but morale is already kinda low. The Vikings are coming off a big win, but it was a win where they really didn’t look that impressive. Their fans are energized and way too confident. We can change it ALL with one win.

by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your first time seeing if Minnesota's morale

Suffers from losing a divisional game on the road will be next Sunday night.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 20, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe not, but

matching last season’s loss total in only week six will, and it will regardless of division game or not and regardless of home or away!

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TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!

The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Oct 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

What’s your logic for this? Do you feel that same way about Rice? Not to be a jerk but you do realize Harris was close to being able to play week 1 right? Don’t you think six more weeks is more than enough time for him to be fully healed, and in pretty good shape? Even Bigby supposedly could have been back by week 3 or 4 had he not been put on the PUP. So assuming that information was accurate, he’s had 2-3 weeks where he’s felt healthy, and has hopefully used those weeks to try and get in shape.

I could see neither having an effect on this Sunday’s game but the whole season? That’s just silly. I think your opinion has more to do with you wanting that to happen, and not much else.

by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

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TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!

The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Oct 20, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rice is still a solid month away from even practicing. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him end up on IR

by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you really expect much though. Honestly?

He’s at least 3 weeks from even returning to practice. When he returns he comes back to find out his job has been taken by Randy Moss which means that he has to learn to play Bernard Berriens’ position which as we all know has never been done with much excellence to begin with so he really has no one to learn it from (sorry had to take a BB shot there). He’s going to take a few weeks to get up to speed which means at best he’s making an impact in week 12 or so? Is it even worth it at that point to shake up the team if you are really on that kind of a tear that you are talking playoffs…legitimately?

by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rice

If Rice was going to be back anytime soon, the Moss deal makes no sense! Only reason to get Moss for ONLY this year is becuz they don’t think Rice is going to be back anytime soon! IMO, Rice won’t be able to contribute much, if at all, this season! Matter of fact I think he goes on IR in 3 weeks!

You've been Stroh'd!!!

by Strohman on Oct 20, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moss is an outside deep type while Rice can play in the middle

so Moss would replace Berrian while Rice takes Moss’s spot

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 20, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this point in their careers

Rice is every bit as much a deep threat as Moss!

Answer me this… If Rice isn’t injured then would the vikes trade for Moss?! IMO, absolutely NOT!!

You've been Stroh'd!!!

by Strohman on Oct 21, 2010 6:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

The point isn't that Rice isn't a deep threat

The point is that Moss isn’t an across the middle threat.

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Oct 21, 2010 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

True…but Rice has no experience playing Berrien’s position. Sure he’s a WR but its different routes and a different mentality.

by TrevorR on Oct 21, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't need to be

Harvin is the middle guy, and his production has really gone up since Moss arrived.

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by Ted Glover on Oct 21, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

That makes sense

Moss takes over Berrian’s straight-line-route-running deep threat. Rice takes back his spot as all-over-the-file+deep threat.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 21, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

one of the few times lately that we can agree on something.

by TrevorR on Oct 21, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

dsludo = classic troll.

His comments in this thread (and previous comments on APC) should have told you this a while ago.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 21, 2010 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

A lo-o-o-o-ong time ago. haha.

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TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!

The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Oct 21, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

i flag everything he says without reading it

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 21, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd him? Damn near killed him!

Couldn’t have said it better. Rec’d.
This game could be a turning point or an affirmation of doomed mediocrity.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 20, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+!

Alot of people are already off the cliff!!! LOL

Just a tremendous post. Everything I feel about the situation…

You've been Stroh'd!!!

by Strohman on Oct 20, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

This game is do or die

If we cannot win this game, I don’t think we touch .500 the rest of the year. An L here means at least this result, IMHO:

Vikes: 3-4
@Jets: 3-5
Cowboys: 4-5
@Vikes: 4-6
@Falcons: 4-7
49ers: 5-7
@Lions: 6-7
@Pats: 6-8
Giants: 6-9
Bears: 7-9

If this team had the cahones to take it to the Vikings on our home turf then the future looks a little more bright. If we lay down like last year then the season is over.

by Danwood on Oct 20, 2010 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know.

Here’s my (erroneous) prediction on how things go down should the Packers lose.

Vikes: 3-4 (This wouldn’t surprise me)
Jets: 4-4 (this is the game the Jets ALWAYS lose, and that’s not something they shake)
Cowboys: 5-4 (they’re terrible)
@ Vikes: 6-4 (the classic Minnesota letdown game)
@ Falcons: 6-5 (Matt Ryan dices up the secondary)
49ers: 7-5 (They’re bad, too)
@ Lions: 8-5 (They’ll give us a fight, though)
@ Patriots: 8-6 (They’re invincible at home)
Giants: 9-6 or 8-7 (depends on which Giants team shows up)
Bears: 10-6 or 9-7 (we do NOT lose the rematch after getting jobbed in the first game; and its Lambeau, NOT Soldier Field)

So the flip game of the last 10 is the Giants game, the definite losses are to New England and Atlanta, and the probable wins are the 49ers and the Cowboys.

Wisconsin, throwing the Big Ten into chaos since the beginning of time...
I was fined $15,000 by David Stern for complaining about the officiating...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 20, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just curious what you mean by this:
this is the game the Jets ALWAYS lose, and that’s not something they shake

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Oct 20, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

They always seem to lose an NFC game they should win.

2009: Falcons, lose 10-7 (an epic WTF game)
2008: 49ers, lose 24-14
2007: All NFC East opponents won
2006: Bears, lose 10-0
2005: All NFC South opponents except the Falcons won
2004: Rams, lose 32-29 in OT (game sent the Rams to the playoffs)
2003: All NFC East opponents won

Wisconsin, throwing the Big Ten into chaos since the beginning of time...
I was fined $15,000 by David Stern for complaining about the officiating...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 20, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, gotcha

Thanks for the clarification

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Oct 20, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't include their 09 loss to the Saints

because that was a game they didn’t have a prayer of winning. Really, they didn’t.

Wisconsin, throwing the Big Ten into chaos since the beginning of time...
I was fined $15,000 by David Stern for complaining about the officiating...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 20, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

throw those stats out the window

rex ryan’s 2nd year there and he has them looking like the real deal. with all of his free agent pick-ups making him look like a genius. i guess rex ryan is all in on this season and the jets will stink next year. sarcasm.

by hermitcrab on Oct 21, 2010 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to do that.

This Jets team, aside from a 28-14 pasting of New England in New York, has been VERY unimpressive. Buffalo is terrible.

Expecting the Jets to go 4-0 against the NFC when they haven’t done it in YEARS is just foolish.

Obviously, Minnesota will hire John L. Smith to be their next head football coach.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 21, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

They’re already 1-0. They’re most certainly going to beat Detroit and kick the crap out of Cutler and Chicago. So there’s 3-0 with the only wild card being an injured Packers team that couldn’t beat a Dolphins team that the Jets already beat.

Don’t see the foolishness in that at all.

by Danwood on Oct 21, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

The thing is

that they’ve done this for years.

IF they do it, so much the worse for us. I hope they don’t.

Obviously, Minnesota will hire John L. Smith to be their next head football coach.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 21, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since when does what happened in 2007 affect what will happen in 2010? Different players, different coaches, different everything.

by TrevorR on Oct 21, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unimpressive? REally? They are having their way with people. Their D is shutting teams down and their O can both run or pass it down their throats. They have 3 1,000 yard WRs on the roster. They have two very capable running backs. ONe of the better Olines in the game and a young developing QB who isn’t turning the ball over. Their D is stacked with talent. I don’t get this comment at all. I’ve watched a lot of their games and they’ve been VERY impressive.

by TrevorR on Oct 21, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. All the hype surrounding the Jets is legit. Seems like you and I have been the only ones on that boat actually. It’s hard to go wrong with a top notch defense, a top notch running game, and some decent playmakers at receiver.

by packallday555 on Oct 21, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm on the boat too!

The fact that Sanchez is looking half-decent is really their last piece of the jigsaw. He’s no Brady or Manning but I don’t think Flacco has too much on him nowadays.

by Danwood on Oct 21, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me neither. I never really thought Sanchez was as bad as people made him out to be last season. He didn’t throw many more picks than Stafford, Ryan, and Flacco did in their rookie years yet, all those guys were basically praised afterwards. He had just as good a rookie season as Stafford did. Had some good games here and there, and then had some really bad ones here and there.

by packallday555 on Oct 21, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely used the wrong word. Sorry.

How about this: inconsistent. They were TERRIBLE against the Vikings in the first half. Sanchez reverted to his same old overthrowing the receiver/putting the receiver up for grabs/throwing an awful pass into coverage and he got away with it over and over again. Now, it was super rainy, and in good weather the Jets likely would have led 21-0 at the half. But Santonio Holmes looked like a complete waste of cash all game long, and, thanks to Brett Farve’s timely pick six, the Jets were able to win.

Holmes STILL doesn’t impress me; Edwards hasn’t met a pass against a good defense that he hasn’t found a way to drop, but Dustin Keller is 100% legit.

Obviously, Minnesota will hire John L. Smith to be their next head football coach.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 21, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I only heard most of the first half on the radio

But the way they were describing it on the radio, and what I saw at the end of the first half, Sanchez was hitting guys on the numbers and they were flat out missing the ball (due to the rain).

by Danwood on Oct 21, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what I saw of that game

Sanchez was throwing it everywhere. The slick ball probably left his hands early a few times, but most of his passes in the 1st half were drops and overthrows.

Obviously, Minnesota will hire John L. Smith to be their next head football coach.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 21, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you watch that game? The rain was AMAZING! Neither team looked good and neither team will good in weather like that. Holmes was playing with the team for the first time, no preseason games or anything so yeah he’s rusty but he didn’t get his name for nothing. If that game is what you are basing things on, you need to watch more of them. Flip on the NFL Network and watch one of those fast forward games, you’ll change your tune quickly. This is a team that is going to be a HUGE contender.

by TrevorR on Oct 22, 2010 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is just too optimistic.

First the 49ers are NOT a bad team, they’ve been in every game they’ve played and actually are gaining a little steam now with the new OC. I wouldn’t write them off as an easy win by ANY means. Remember they ALMOST beat the Vikings last year IN Minnesota.

by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a clutch moment!

Really, I don’t know about them. They’ve been demoralized so much that another loss could make them into a MONSTER THAT WINS THE NFC WEST or something.

Wisconsin, throwing the Big Ten into chaos since the beginning of time...
I was fined $15,000 by David Stern for complaining about the officiating...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 20, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what everyone was saying last year too!

Our final 8 games last year were thought to be extremely difficult but we finished 7-1 down the stretch and beat some playoff teams to do it. And we were 4-4 heading into that alleged difficult end to the season!

Oh how quickly you forget!!!

You've been Stroh'd!!!

by Strohman on Oct 20, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, no they weren't

The games that were thought to be “tough” last year:

Cowboys
Steelers
Baltimore

We only won two of those. The rest were teams reeling (49ers, Bears, Detroit, Seattle) or teams taking the week off (Cardinals). And that was with a nearly complete offense.

by Danwood on Oct 20, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

last year

I don’t remember you here last year… But I do remember alot of people feeling the Packers playoff chances were shot after losing to TB and being 4-4 w/ what looked like a very difficult final half of the season! Most people didn’t think we were going to make the playoffs cuz of the difficulty of our final 8 games!

You've been Stroh'd!!!

by Strohman on Oct 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was around last year

After going 4-4 the general conclusion was that winning the division was out of the picture, having lost the tiebreaker with Minnesota, and our only shot was at a wild card. But let’s compare last year to this year, based on ESPN Power Rankings. Power Rankings are not the be all formula for determining who is better but by and large they slot teams in the right locations.

After the TB loss, the ESPN power rankings of each team remaining (we were at 16):

Steelers: 5 (6-2)
Dallas: 8 (6-2)
Arizona: 10 (5-3)
Baltimore: 14 (4-4)

Bears: 19 (4-4)
49ers: 20 (3-5)
Seattle: 25 (3-5)
Detroit: 29 (1-7)

Right now our ESPN power ranking is 15. The remaining teams we have:

Jets: 2
Patriots: 3
Falcons: 7
Giants: 11
Bears: 12

Vikings: 17
Cowboys: 26
Lions: 29

And if the Vikings beat us this week they most definitely will leap frog us, which would make it 6 higher and 2 lower. So no, it is not comparable to last year. Last year we had fewer teams ahead of us in the rankings that collectively were not ranked as high as the teams ahead of us this year.

by Danwood on Oct 21, 2010 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just book it!

No need to play the games now — we know what our record will be!

Seriously, you can’t possibly try to guess who will win or lose a game two weeks from now, much less 2 months from now. We have no idea of who will be healthy, who will be suspended, whose players will hate their coaches, etc.

Right now we need to focus on how to beat the Vikings at Lambeau. It would be nice to do that.

And Brandon — Favre may have looked smug, but the way he and Thompson despise each other you knew one of them would gloat after the game. I still say that Thompson mishandled that entire situation.

by ktenreb on Oct 20, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

If this team cannot get motivated enough to beat the Vikings

Then they cannot get motivated for anyone who is average or above. That’s my point.

But I can guarantee you that we will not have Finley nor Grant in two weeks and two months from now. You can’t win when you don’t score points.

by Danwood on Oct 20, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

They better step it up

because I’m going to the game (my first time to go to a game at Lambeau!) and I’m pretty excited to see them beat up on the Vikes.

by PackerGirl on Oct 20, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

You get a rec
WIth the way both teams have played, a 16-16 tie with 11 injuries and 67 penalties between the two teams would not surprise me at all. Neither team has been impressive so far, and neither team has ‘showed up’ when they needed to.

Ain’t that the truth.

by ktenreb on Oct 20, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I gave that a rec, too

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TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!

The glass is way more than half-full!

by NorthStarr on Oct 20, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha yeah it was a very well done post. That result wouldn’t surprise me either…maybe they’ll just knock each other out of it and pave the way for the Bears to lose in the first round of the playoffs@!

by TrevorR on Oct 20, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd. 16-16 tie...classic.

That would require both teams either missing extra points, a safety, or getting 2 TD’s and going for 2 pts on both scores. Instant classic.

by dsludo on Oct 20, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

My bad

You could have 3 FG’s and a TD to get to 16 too. That would be way to boring though.

by dsludo on Oct 20, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

From the Milwaukee Journal this morning

Sounds like the best candidate to go is actually Harris. But I think everyone is hoping Matthews can go at least somewhat. He’s only doing jogthroughs, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything either way.

Doesn’t sound like Bigby is quite ready.

by junyer_mint on Oct 20, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matthews will go at least according to NFL.com

I bet that was why he was out (unfortunately) last week to make sure he was ready for this week.

by Bush League All Star on Oct 20, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

It sounded to me like he could have gone last week. I’m sure he didn’t because of the importance of this up coming game.

by packallday555 on Oct 20, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd him? Damn near killed him!

Again, well said. This game might not have last year’s drama – though Lord knows they’ll try to hype it up again – but it’s a more important, “must win” kind of game for both teams.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 20, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Writing like that.....

makes me wonder how in the hell Chrissy Gates holds down a job.

by TarHeelHawk on Oct 20, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elbow

Pevre’s right elbow seems to be better. He must have switched to his left hand for his self-abuse….or gotten rid of the crocs.

by Egbert Souse on Oct 20, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Clever.

Favre 4 Ever
I Believe In Chris Drury

by Plusch on Oct 20, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

took me a sec

but amusing

"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473

by NorthSidePaulie on Oct 20, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pessimistic scenario

Vikings stuff our run game, force us to pass, sack the shit out of Rodgers, Vikings offense starts to shred our battered defense that has been on the field all day… and Percy Harvin runs wild on special teams. Not necessarily in that order. I’m expecting the worst. It’s the only way I can handle losing to them at home again.

As for what feels different about this game: I’m expecting our defense to outplay our offense. Also, Favre WILL be sacked!

by Shamalamadingdong on Oct 20, 2010 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

If Matthews plays,

we should be the favorite going into this game. (but only barely)

If he doesn’t, then Favre will have all the time in the world to pass the ball (he may even have enough time to send a picture text message of his genitals to some girl).

by UncleJustice on Oct 20, 2010 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

smash that fuckers face into the turf clay

lets get a win here

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 20, 2010 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

good luck this sunday against the vikes

1…2…3…DOMINATE!!!

"Focus; Finish. Work on winning each play."
-- NY Jets 2010 philosophy --

by rick34125 on Oct 20, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Also, is it just me or does anyone else get pissed off when players show a lack of interest in

the fan rivalries? for the packers bears games the players were quoted in the newspaper saying they didnt care that much and they just saw it as another game. Heres a lesson sports players everywhere. If you want to be loved, at least pretend LIKE YOU FREAKING CARE about the rivalries.

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 20, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

^ This ^

Rec’d.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 20, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously. I hope the Packers blow the vikings away by reintroducing the infamous GB screens and slants!!

by TrevorR on Oct 21, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Rodgers up for that?

Slants require exceptional quarterback play. Slants are not Rodgers’ forte.

by ktenreb on Oct 22, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe that is the reason we’ve completely abandoned them. If they want this offensive scheme to work you NEED to use them. They are a CORE element of the WCO and we’ve abandoned it. The deep passes only work if you have a great short passing game…we have NONE.

by TrevorR on Oct 23, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

McCarthy

Said there would be route changes that match Rodgers skill more when they went w/ him and traded Favre. If I remember correctly (it was 3 yrs ago) they switched from slants to crossing routes to some degree. Favre is likely the best QB ever at throwing slants. Rodgers is better on crossing routes and the deep ball. He can throw slants too, but he’s not as good as Favre on those type passes.

Its a staple of the WCO, and its not like we don’t trow them, but its just a slight adjustment (from slants to crosses) to adapt to Rodgers strengths. Not a big deal, IMO.

You've been Stroh'd!!!

by Strohman on Oct 23, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't get too close to farve

He may send you a vienna sausage pic.

by mike_o on Oct 21, 2010 12:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Important game...

As a Vikings fan, we all know that this game has a lot of importance for both teams. Both teams have had a very shaky start. Favre has thrown his fair share of interceptions, while the Pack has had their fair share of injuries. All while both teams watch the Bears lead the division…. I think, we can both agree that when the end of the season comes, there is a very high chance that the Bears will not be the division winners. Now, only going off of memory, if I remember correctly, all teams in the NFC currently have two losses. Which means, no one is running away with the division as of yet. What does that mean? Wild-Cards and playoff spots are going to be fair game for a longg time this season.. No early clinching!

But most importantly, that means divisional games and conference games will be really important for tie-breakers.

Vikings are currently 1-0 within the division. (A win over the Lions).

I would like to predict a 60-40/40-60% win/loss on this game.

60-40 Packs favor if Mathews plays
40-60 Vikes favor if Mathews doesn’t play

Not going to lie, but Mathews seems to be one of your start players on defense… And when he is in there, your pash rush is pretty ruthless.

As for the Vikings, all we can hope is that Jared Allen remembers who he is… Jared Allen!

Anyways, should be a fun game & can’t wait.

by Deek on Oct 21, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Allen needs to grow out his mullet…he is apparently Samson.

I think Matthews is the swing vote though…you are right on there.

by TrevorR on Oct 21, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

All these good posts from Vikings fans coming out of the woodwork!

Where are you guys usually? ’Cause this is all pretty new to me.

Once I see/hear from a non-subhuman Bears fan then I’ll really know I’ve seen it all. . . .

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 21, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deek is one of the better guys over there! He is welcome here ANY time.

by TrevorR on Oct 21, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's assuming Matthews is healthy

I saw a report that said he might not be 100%, and with a hamstring, that can be a big deal.

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