Brad Jones Fractured Brett Favre's Ankle In Two Places
by Brandon on Oct 25, 2010 4:34 PM CDT
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When Green Bay Packers LB Brad Jones tackled QB Brett Favre by the ankle on Sunday night, he fractured Favre's ankle in two places. After watching this video with Dr. Michael Kaplan, he explains that one is a stress fracture, and the other fracture is from a piece of bone torn off by a ligament, which is more like a severe ankle sprain. This is just my opinion, but I don't see how he can play on that ankle next Sunday. He could barely move after the Sunday night game, and this isn't something that can heal in six days.
And at this point, I don't see why it should matter if they go back to QB Tarvaris Jackson. Favre is playing so poorly right now that Jackson can't be worse.
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wow
how appropraite that the streak ends at Lambeau against the Packers. its almost poetic
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
Remember back in the Philly game...
I said Mathews may have lost us the game as a joke. Why? Because he knocked Kolb out of the game and in came Vick.
And although Tjackson is no Vick, I think this could improve the Vikings. He has more mobility and there is no way he will turn the ball over more (Favre is on pace for 27 [!] INTs this year)
On the other hand, I was saying it all through the preseason. the Saints laid out the blueprint. Hit Favre, and hit him hard.
And we did it. We did it, WE DID IT.
Let’s build on this and let’s focus on the big bad green of New York. And that 6th borough of New York known as Revis Island.
T Jack may have more mobility than Favre
but even Favre at his worse can utilize Harvin, Shiancoe and Moss better than T Jack would.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
This
People are going to blitz Jackson like they did Favre. The difference is, Favre almost always knows where to go with it. Jackson doesn’t and won’t.
by packallday555 on Oct 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
He'll play
Favre won’t practice until Friday, he’ll wear a boot all week, but he’ll still go out for two series before his ankle is torn off and gets pulled from the game.
I disagree...
I think there are three things going against him…
1) This came at the right time right when the NFL is about to suspend him for 2 games.
2) Favre aint’ stupid. He is selfish, vane and all that, but he ain’t stupid. And he wants to be there for the end of the season for a playoff run. He knows that he can’t survive the season unless he lets the stress fracture/broken ankle heal.
3) Chilly is fed up with him…I think he wants to make a change
I say we see him in three weeks.
I had no idea Favre was actually hurt!
Honestly, I just thought all that elbow-grabbing/limping stuff was a bunch of BS. He only seemed to hurt after a bad play, so I figured his injuries were no worse than what most players go through all the time. But that sounds painful.
Also, I agree, Favre ain’t stupid (though he isn’t a great speller). Maybe he sees the writing on the wall – he can’t play forever, he’s facing possible suspension – and says to himself, “I better sit out a game with an injury to end my streak before it’s ended by a sexual harrassment charge. In ten years this is not what I want to be remembered for.”
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 25, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
he was the one who went snip snip
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
Hate to be cliche but Favre really is an iron man. Stress fractures can be pretty painful, and I’d have to imagine a fracture in the heel hurts pretty badly too.
Wonder if he’ll play or not. My guess is he probably will. If not, they’re in trouble.
A total fracture in the heel is very painful
I fell off a ladder 3 years ago and broke both heels. I was laid up for a couple of months because of it, and was unable to put pressure on the less-injured heel (it was just cracked) without pain for about 4 weeks afterward. And I was on Percocet.
From everything I’m hearing and reading about this particular injury, however, it’s equivalent in pain and recovery time to a sprain. Not fun, but it can still be wrapped and treated with a local anesthetic. The stress fracture in the ankle may be more of a limiting factor than the avuncular fracture of the calcaneus.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
*avulsion fracture
His heel injury has nothing to do with his uncle.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Nice correction
I have no idea what an “avulsion” fracture is, but an “avuncular” fracture would change everything. If that particular uncle was on Deanna’s side of the family then you know they’re pissed about the whole photo/message incident.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 25, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It's akin to the fracture that Dorsey Levens suffered all those years ago...
… and it’s why horse collar tackles are now illegal. In a horse collar tackle, the legs and feet are trapped under the player as the offensive player’s body is pulled backwards, putting incredible tension on the tendons and ligaments in the leg. The tendon holds, but the bone it’s attached to cracks under the strain. That’s an avulsion fracture.
Here, apparently, Favre’s foot was extended as if he was pointing his toe as he moved forward, and it couldn’t recover before Jones’ weight fell on it, putting immense presssure on the tendons in the foot until the bone cracked under the strain.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch. Yeah, I just know it can be painful when something happens to your heal. That’s kind of what I’ve gathered too. It doesn’t seem to be really serious or anything with Favre.
by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll be in trouble
if the guy battling Derek Anderson, Matt Moore, Jimmy Clausen and Bruce Gradkowski for the worst QB rating in football and is tied for the most interceptions in the league is out?
K.
by Archibaldcrane on Oct 25, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
Chilly was looking for a reason to try T-Jack, and here it is.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but since Chilly's a wuss when it comes to Favre
Do you think he’ll actually have the guts to be the one to bench Favre and break the streak? Of course, being known as the coach that benched Favre IS a little better than being known as the coach who had a $hit-ton of talent and couldn’t win a championship.
I'm not sure.
He’s certainly shown an inability to get Favre off the field when he’s wanted to before, but in those instances I thought it was stupid to hook him anyway. All along the thing i’ve kept coming back to is that you can’t bench Favre for throwing picks. This is what you get when you begged him to come back. You’ve opted for the roller coaster, and you don’t stop the roller coaster after the first descent and say I want to get off. Once you commit to Favre, you commit, and he gets you as far as he gets you, and historically that’s been at least one step short of where you hoped to be, except in 1996.
But now, i don’t know. If Favre wants to play, he’ll play, and i don’t think Chilly will want to stop him. But does he want to play? For the first time in years, I’m not sure anymore. Rumors are that he’s looking for a way out and the foot gives him a ripcord on the season. He can hobble away if he wants, and give the NFL, the Jets and Sterger and excuse to wrap up that mess quickly. He’d probably be done for good, but in the end the decision would at least partially feel like it was his, and it would potentially save he and his family a lot of pain.
Do i believe that will happen? Not really, but it’s at least possible, and contrary as it might seem to Favre’s long history, I think it’s more possible now than it has been ever before.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Chilly apparently threw Favre under the bus after the game
I didn’t see it, but ‘Queens fans were talking about on other boards. Methinks Chilly’s feeling a bit nervous about his future, and benching Favre’s a great way to show Zygi that he’s in control and knows what he’s doing – and the injury also gives him some leverage with Favre.
Otherwise, I think you’re right – Favre could walk (err, hobble) at any time and his teammate would probably not blame him. It’s tough to play on a bum heel and ankle. And it sure would make the NFL investigation go away. It also makes sense if he’s going to be benched anyway – you know, his typical “screw mgmt” attitude if mgmt does something he doesn’t like. .If he’s going to do it, though, it’s going to be this week.
But, then again,
Of course, being known as the coach that benched Favre IS a little better than being known as the coach who had a $hit-ton of talent and couldn’t win a championship.
it would be worse to be known as both.
That said, it probably will be a mutual decision, even if with some reluctant resignation on Bertt’s part.
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I wouldn't be surprised
to see him go out for the first series to keep the streak going and then maybe take a seat. That way he can play up the, “Man, I tried to give it a go for those guys out there, but I just can’t this week” BS
The best part about this… The Vikes have had their bye week already… so they don’t get a free week to let it heal
PS – Anyway I can change my gameball of the week vote to Brad Jones? or maybe the gameball fo the season?
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 25, 2010 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
Didn't Favre once say he'd never do that?
I think is was after that Redskins game years ago, when he was knocked out the game with a knee injury and they weren’t sure he could play.
Of course, that was back when he was a team player…
He was a team player?
When was that?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 25, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
When Mike Holmgren
actually had a tight rein on him?
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Back when he was Ron Wolf's project
Instead of Mike Holmgren’s ticket to the GM job?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Bertt also said (more than once)
that the records didn’t mean anything to him.
Of course, that was when he was all puffed up with pseudo-integrity. lol.
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I'm very surprised.
To be honest, it didn’t look like his ankle was turned, twisted, or hyper-extended all that badly to me. I assumed that it hurt as badly as he said it did because of the injury from last post-season, and not because some new injury caused by that tackle.
I’ve got some other thoughts, but I’ll keep them to myself until i get a look at what the doctor actually said, since there’s a link provided.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions
err
to continue . . . .
There’s no way that hit broke an non-surgically-repaired, healthy ankle. There was no “hit” on it, not twist that I saw, just an ankle tackle. Maybe Favre needed to drink more milk, osteoporosis is the scourge of the elderly.
"not a real fracture in which a big bone is broken"....
… according to the good doctor, who was also told there was a compression fracture. So you’ve got the word of a doc who hasn’t examined Favre at all based on things he’s told by others.
This combined with stories today that Favre is looking for an “exit strategy”. I don’t know if that’s really true; I’m skeptical of it, in fact. But if it is true, here it is. He can walk away if he really wants to, the NFL likely pulls the plug on its investigation coupled with an “undisclosed settlement” between Favre, the Jets and Sterger, done and done.
But I don’t really believe any of that. I think he sticks and he plays, maybe not next week, but soon, and told he’s not welcome, which seems unlikely to me.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
Here's some fodder for more Vikings whining:
"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne
by dishingoutdimes on Oct 25, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions
I don't feel like registering for PFT's forums
Then, on the final drive of the night, Vikings receiver Percy Harvin made a catch at the back of the end zone that appeared to give the Vikings a stirring come-from-behind win. In real time, it was obvious that Harvin couldn’t have gotten both feet down. But an official, who was right on top of the play, concluded that Harvin did, and the official called it a touchdown.
And so the Vikings offense, after celebrating the “oh my heavens!”-style win, had to process the fact that their jubilation was moot.
There were 40+ seconds left on the clock, and the Packers still had time-outs left at that point. If Harvin had in fact scored on that play, it would not have ended the game, as Favre to Lewis did vs. San Fran, which happened with 2 seconds left on the clock. Assuming the Vikes kicked a PAT after that one, a Packer field goal still ties it and (likely) sends it to OT.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Let them cry...
Their tears won’t bring them a win and it sure as shit won’t bring any sympathy. Even Cubs fans must think their “Woe is me” attitude is tired and pathetic. It’s easy to see this attitude comes from the top down with Childress’ embarassing press conference and people wonder why they go fifty years without doing anything significant, they have an inferiority complex and a losing attitude.
by Charlie Kelly on Oct 25, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Older Cubs fans tend to take sucking in stride
The newer generation, the ones who got into them because of Sammy Sosa or Kerry Wood, are less tolerant (and screechier) about it, but those of us who’ve been watching for a couple of decades have been through it all before. We learn to celebrate the rare years that they don’t suck and just muddle along the rest of the time.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
or join a winning team on the other side of town!
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
by blackoutsox on Oct 25, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Blackhawks!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 25, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So according to Florio
The ref making an absolutely execrable TD call in the Vikings’ favor in the last minute still somehow managed to screw the Vikings. What a joke.
I hate how once the national media gets a narrative about a game stuck in their heads, everything gets reinterpreted according to it, and no facts that challenge that narrative can be considered. In this case, that narrative is “Vikings got screwed,” facts be damned.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 25, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
They're obviously emotionally fragile
Poor things.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
They're also ignoring the personal foul call on Collins,
… the bad mark on 3rd down that went against GB, the bad mark on the 4th down in the 4th quarter that gave the Vikings the ball, AND the fact that if the bad calls that favored GB went the other way, GB doesn’t take the ball out of Rodgers hands the last two drives while trying to run the clock.
The refs were bad, but it went both ways, and it’s not why the Vikings lost.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
As I said on the other thread
They’re also ignoring the fact that every play after the call goes a different way if those TDs stand/don’t stand. You can’t count points as if no changes would be made. You can’t say, “that wasn’t a TD, so take away 4 points, and that was a TD, so add 4 points” like play calling wouldn’t be different in that situation.
It sucks to have calls go against your team, and some (like those that turn the ball over or fail to nullify a turnover in the last minute) really hurt, but an altered TD call in the second quarter leaves a lot of room left for the game to change from how it was played.
You forget,
The “national media” has to do PR for the Vikings, so those calls don’t matter. Only calls that went against the Vikings are what matter.
So, we should put up or shut up about the spots on 3rd and 4th down, and the bogus personal foul penalty, while Vikings fans should be able to complain about anything, and at the same time, be able to do it beyond criticism or restraint.
So much for objectivity.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 25, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I also forgot about the hit on Flynn by Allen on the fake FG.
Which looked late and could have also resulted in 15yds and a crucial 1st down deep in MN territory.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Illegal Touching on Rodgers' second pick
The Vikings DB stepped out of bounds and was the first to touch the ball.
Not to mention the contact downfield on that play.
Hey, this is fun.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
It really is huh? Somebody posted all the calls that could have went against the Vikings and I actually enjoyed reading them all because they were all so true.
by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Was that the post over at DN?
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He also blatantly grabbed Jennings just as he was about to blow right by him. The fact that they’re complaining so much about the referees is ridiculous.
by packallday555 on Oct 25, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Reinterpreted, and regurgitated.
once the national media gets a narrative about a game stuck in their heads, everything gets reinterpreted according to it…
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I've had enough of OT this season, thank you.
The way OT’s been treating us, next time McCarthy has the opportunity to kick a PAT for a last-second tie I think he should try for 2 points.
The ball clearly moved in his hands
this is an admission of something that didn’t happen. The ref was right.
by Archibaldcrane on Oct 25, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Great
just what they need… anyways… everyone keeps citing the same thing about it, but no one can produce the actual letter or email or whatever from the NFL which I’d like to see and read personally… I’m not familiar w/ the NFL ever directly throwing officials under the bus like that
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 25, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Isn’t against league policy to comment on officiating?
I find it odd, at least.
All bow to the almighty Favre!
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by dishingoutdimes on Oct 25, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I get it now!
Blame the officials! Blame Childress! Blame the ankle injury! Blame everyone except the Vikings! Last time I checked, the team with the most points after four quarters wins the game.
If the “national” media has a problem with that, they need to put up or shut up. I’m tired of seeing everyone fawning over the Vikings and complaining that they get screwed constantly.
How about the bogus unnecessary roughness call? Why isn’t that mentioned? Oh yeah, that’s right … it benefited the VIkings. As a result, it was a good call and is important to the flow of the game!
Memo to “national” media: Quit doing PR for the Vikings and start reporting things in an objective manner. If you guys don’t like it, maybe you should find new jobs.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 25, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I have dreamed of the day when Brett hobbled down the tunnel of Lambeau on his way out to a shower of boos after a Vikings loss.
Even the Packers don’t win another game…at least they showed some pride at home and put a beatdown on Favre.
My guess is he’ll probably be suspended for being a perv and have to sit out a week or two anyway. Either way you slice it – the Vikings are in trouble with a game at Foxborough up next.
I disagree
Favre will reach a settlement with Sterger and make her sign a non disclosure statement. This will quietly go away after a while.
As to those that don’t think he’s guilty, i would ask where was Deanna? If she’s there, she’s standing by her man and showing her support. If she’s not, it’s a pretty clear admission – to me at least.
by gern blanston on Oct 25, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Since he's admitting the voicemails, the incentive to come to his rescue is probably pretty low.
Besides, she seems like a decent, classy woman. Why in hell would she want to release a statement saying “that’s not my husband’s penis.” Even if it’s true, I think most women would take a pass on that experience under the circumstances.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not going to get suspended.
He’s just not. Two things have to happen for him to get suspended: The NFL has to really, really care, and Sterger has to cooperate. The NFL only kinda cares about this (it really cared about Roethlisberger), and Sterger’s not going to fully cooperate anyway.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 25, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong
About one thing that is… The NFL has to really, really care! Its a employee harrassment incident. Both were working for the NYJ at the time so the NFL has to investigate this as a very important issue!
WHether Sterger interviews w/ the NFL is in the air, but make no mistake the NFL simply MUST treat this as a very serious matter!!!
You've been Stroh'd!!!
Just because you or I thinks the NFL should care
Doesn’t mean it does care.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 26, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Your being a fool!
NFL has to care and MUST investigate to the fullest or there is hell to pay w/ certain government agencies.
You've been Stroh'd!!!
It's hard to argue w/ the man
He’s been pretty much right about everything this week from us winning to James Jones stepping up to the decline (injury related) of DD… I think it’s safe to say that Stroh knows
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Oct 26, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's how the NFL might "investigate to the fullest"
NFL: Hey Jenn, will you talk to us about how Brehfah sent you pictures of his wang?
Jenn: No. [Stuffs wad of bills given to her by Brent into her pocket]
NFL: Well, crap. If you won’t cooperate, guess that’s all we can do then.
Media: This is a very serious issue. Did you really investigate this to the fullest?
NFL: We did everything we could to investigate this issue. We hit a dead end when Ms. Sterger refused to cooperate. But rest assured, we care very deeply about the welfare of our employees and sexual harassment and treatment of women etc. etc.
Boom. The NFL “investigates to the fullest” enough to get the media and powers that be off their back, without really even trying at all.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 26, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I did say...
That whether or not Sterger interviews w/ the NFL was up in the air!!! If she wants to get paid, she gets a HELL of alot more doing it in civil court than by taking a little handout…
Couple millions vs a couple hundred KKK…
And if she does go the civil court route, the NFL will be well informed about it and likely suspend Favre for conduct issues whether or not she wins!!!
You've been Stroh'd!!!
Favre
I never wish injuries upon anybody, but like I said in the offseason, I will not feel sorry for a 40 year old returning for no reason. I thought it was foolish then, and foolish now to play. I don’t feel sorry for him by any means. The man is suffering, and quite frankly, he deserves it. I don’t mean to sound harsh, but he is 40 years old! Why is he putting his body and long term health on the line? Stupidity!
With that said, I’d still be surprised if he puts himself on the bench. No way it happens. I’ll bet you if it does happen though, he does it by the reason of not playing well as opposed to the injury. It’ll make him “look” better.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Disagree
He did have a pretty good season last year and I don’t know anybody who really believed he wouldn’t be back as long as he could perform. Whatever you think of the guy, he does have a remarkably resilient constitution.
I think what we’re seeing in Favre 2010 is called “regression to the mean”, not that I mind seeing it as a Packer fan. Also didn’t mind seeing that regression start to happen in Q4 of the NFC Championship game.
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by NorthSidePaulie on Oct 25, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I NEVER expected anything else, if/when he came back!
I think what we’re seeing in Favre 2010 is called "regression to the mean"
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Injury Prone
Wasn’t everyone calling Rodgers injury prone after he broke his foot and kept playing against N.E. a couple years ago?
Gosh… Poor Bratty Favre must now be injury prone too.
As for that reversed call TD for the Vikes, watch the slow-mo replay closely. When the nose of the ball hit the ground, the ball slipped from his hands and went into his body, slipped a bit then he gained full control.
The ref was right: He used the ground to assist in the catch.
Brett is definetly not injury prone lol
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
Sure he is
The thing is, he played through all of his many injuries (they don’t have to force you to miss a game to be injuries); sometimes, he did so stupidly and to the detriment of his team, whether it was the Packers or the Jets,
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by NorthStarr on Oct 26, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
well in that case all players in the NFL are injury prone (and to an extent they are, its a violent sport)
if you dont miss a game in 20 years, you probably know how to stay in one piece
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
I was.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Shianco's catch...
so, as a packer fan, i was happy the refs overturned the call. BUT it really was a TD. i thought of the NFC championship a chunk of years back when the Buc’s had a catch like that overturned by replay…THAT is why the rule was changed. That play. Again, i’m glad they overturned it, but I truly can’t see how the ground helped him. he had it firm in his hands, nose down, and it shifted when it hit the ground. SHIFTED. it did not get jostled around. the ground didn’t assist in my opinion. good for the pack. bad for the vikes. weird calls on both sides of the ball last night. so it goes…
(it wasnt in his hands)
it was between the forearms
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
Shianco
Would be a great name for a punter.
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by NorthSidePaulie on Oct 25, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
It's almost a great name for a STD.
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GO!
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You can't be serious, man! You cannot be serious! His foot was on the line! It was ON THE LINE! He was clearly out! How could you possibly call him in!?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 25, 2010 7:30 PM CDT reply actions
So my school newspaper
I go to CU, and the colorado daily headline was “Favre Chokes, Packers Win” and then the article started with “Favre threw 3 second half interceptions…” Favre will always get the headlines… but i was pleased to read the negative headline towards him… I don’t think he straight choked either, I think the Packers legitimately beat the Vikings and I LOVE IT!
The real problem with the refs....
… is that the competition committee has so muddied the waters on what constitutes a TD reception and what doesn’t that the refs don’t know one when they see one. You can say it’s written clearly all you like, but it’s still counter-intuitive, with rules that apply in some circumstances and not in others, depending on the location the field. That’s not the refs fault so much as it is the pointy-head set in the league offices. Make the rules what they were before Bert Emmanuel’s play, and there’s a lot less confusion. Instead they started to tweak the rule after that play and it’s now disappeared up it’s own ass to the point that no one knows what a TD catch is. That’s why they blew the call on the Quarles catch, it’s why they reversed an apparent TD on Shiancoe’s catch, and it’s why the ref who was standing 10 ft from Harvin NEVER LOOKED AT HIS GOD DAMN FEET. 5 years ago, that ref would have been staring at Harvin’s feet to see if they got in, but now they juggle and going to the ground and the process and the horseshit permutations of all of those things combined made an experienced ref look at the ball instead of the guy’s feet, and thus he missed the most obvious and crucial part of a pass to the back of the endzone.
Thanks, NFL. Ask a 10 year old playing football in the parking lot of his school what a TD catch is. When he tells you, write down what he says and stick it in the 2011 rule book, and leave it at that. Everyone will be a lot happier and you’ll have a lot less blown calls.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 25, 2010 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Possibly hiking up Mount Marcy during the weekend of October 23-24. State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 25, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds right to me
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by NorthSidePaulie on Oct 25, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone get this guy a job with the league!
Rec’d.
I’d been trying to figure out how that ref could have missed that call with Harvin and I think you nailed it on the head.
Also, if Megatron’s catch wasn’t a catch, there is no way Shiancoe’s was a catch. But I still think Johnson got screwed. As far as I’m concerned the Lions and the Dolphins are the only teams that can really say that the bad officiating of 2010 has really cost them a game.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 26, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions
TD Pass Reception
I am confused why a football player need only to break the plane of the end zone with the football advancing over the first marker regardless of foot location but if the plane is demonstrably broken and both feet fail to fall within the end zone bounds advancement of the football into the end zone plane no latter matters.
The logic of physics, if not the NFL, should recognize any football intrusion into the plane of the end zone produces an equivalent result.
I think you're confusing two issues
If the a receiver fails to land in bounds, the pass is incomplete, no matter what yard line. The whole keeping the players within boundaries thing is what makes this football and not some weird capture-the-flag thing.
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