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What Happened? Bears Crushed By Giants, 17-3

Thanks to OBrienSchofieldismyHero and Bush League All Stars for getting the open threads going that I should have remembered to do. I didn't start watching the Bears at Giants until the 4th quarter. 

From what I saw, it can be summed up as offensive line fail. Coming into this season, the Bears didn't have a one, but they had held up well in recent games against the Cowboys and Packers. However against the Giants, they completely fell apart and allowed 9 sacks in the first half, and knocked QB Jay Cutler out in the second quarter with a concussion. The offensive stats are ugly, but it really didn't matter how the rest of the offense played. If the offensive line is playing that bad, nothing is going to work. 

Their defense is playing great and is certainly not the problem, although they get little pressure on the quarterback outside of DE Julius Peppers

The Bears are still in the NFC North lead, but now the Packers are even with them in the loss column. The bigger problem for the Bears is how Cutler's concussion responds to tests over the next week because they certainly need him. 

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Someone set up Jay Cutler the bomb.

We get signal

I'm just glad Scott Tolzien didn't go all Drew Tate on Nick Toon and whack him upside the head...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 3, 2010 11:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes! I got mentioned on the frontpage!

I tried asking for an open thread at the end of the Lions thread earlier today. Did you see it?

I can do one tomorrow if necessary.

I’m glad the Giants crushed the Bears. The game feels more like 49-3 Giants than 17-3 Giants to me…

I'm just glad Scott Tolzien didn't go all Drew Tate on Nick Toon and whack him upside the head...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 3, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

if part of the concussion tests...

involve watching to see if the player wimpers, pouts, and cries like a baby…then Cutler may be out for quite a while..

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by ajd1083 on Oct 3, 2010 11:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Not so cheery, really

I think the Giants would have destroyed the Packers, too. The Packers’ O-line isn’t all that hot, either.

by uglyfatpimplynerd on Oct 3, 2010 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Rogders is a better quaterback than Cutler.

He would have gotten the ball out of his hands much quicker on most of those sacks.

All is vanity.

by levnclf on Oct 4, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rodgers has been sacked FIVE TIMES

through four games.

Considering how last year started and the Packers led the NFL in sacks (no thanks to revolving doors at RT AND LT) allowed, this is a substantial improvement.

I'm just glad Scott Tolzien didn't go all Drew Tate on Nick Toon and whack him upside the head...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 4, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears o-line looked bad

but Cutler did a terrible job of getting rid of the ball quickly. On one of the replays the camera was from behind Cutler and he had a guy wide open on an in route, right in the middle of the field, and Cutler just sat there holding the ball and got sacked.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 4, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

CC actually broke that play down.

Bennett was wide open, and CC said he had no idea why Cutler took the sack. That was the sack that knocked him out of the game.

I'm just glad Scott Tolzien didn't go all Drew Tate on Nick Toon and whack him upside the head...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 4, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

dazed & confused

I think Cutler got the blow to the head early and it affected his play & judgement. He’s usually a bit better than that.

by uglyfatpimplynerd on Oct 4, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um there is an easy explanation

Giants did awesome, the flags were not there to protect the Bears tonight, a very entertaining game.

by Celticnation on Oct 4, 2010 1:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't feel that good about this

I wanted the Giants to beat the Bears, but I don’t like to see a Quarterback get knocked out with a head injury, even if I do dislike Cutler. I’m glad the Packers are even with the Bears and I think the Pack still looks better going forward because its easier to fix a running game than an entire Offensive Line, but still.

This is shaping up to be an interesting season. No dominate teams in the league whatsoever. The only undefeated team is Kansas City, and I’ll be shocked (and pleased) if they carry that through next week against the Colts.

By mid season some really strong teams will emerge I’m sure, but so far no one has looked particularly good.

by Pack Man on Oct 4, 2010 4:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...

When they showed that replay i was like “Ouch” — it looked painful. Hate seeing when anyone, even players from teams I dislike, have injuries like that.

I’m not sure a strong team will emerge!. Starting to think that both conferences this year are just WIDE OPEN. I guess this was the NFL’s long term dream, to create a league of virtual parity. I don’t see any great teams out there, anyone can beat anyone. We’ll see what the next few weeks bring.

by PackFaninFL on Oct 4, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never good to see a head injury

Actually glad I missed that part. It’s more fun to watch your most hated rival lose with all their starters out there, too.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 4, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was not a very hard hit and it can't be much of a concussion.

Cutler got wrapped up and rolled around over the defender and his head didn’t hit the terf that hard from my vantage point! I think he used it as an excuse to not continue to get hit by the Giants pass rush! Just another case of Cutler the baby! My guess is he’ll play next week, indicating the concussion wasn’t at all severe and maybe non-existent…

by Strohman on Oct 4, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every concussion

takes time off the expected lifespan. No such thing as a minor concussion. That said, at least Cutler can expect to retire young and enjoy a longer retirement than anyone on this website.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 4, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was an active participant in meetings on Monday!

If he was really suffering from headaches and other symtoms of a concussion he would NOT have been in those! Kolb missed Monday meetings w/ his concussion after his! Doesn’t sound like anything to me!!!

by Strohman on Oct 4, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't matter...

A concussion is a serious matter. Just like that kid this past month who had one earlier in the week, thought it was fine, and died from another blow to the head. Symptoms can be mild after the initial contact, but that doesn’t mean it is not serious.

by Bush League All Star on Oct 5, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saw the hit and it wasn't hard at all...

IMO… yes, IMO… He didn’t have a concussion!

by Strohman on Oct 5, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was my opinion too. And didn’t he play another series or two after that hit? Too me, he looked pissy and whiney the whole game every time he came off the field. Really kind of exactly how many describe him as being a cry baby. And I’ve normally been one to think people are just kind of talking out of their ass when they say that stuff about him. I definitely felt like I saw exactly what they were saying on Sunday night though. He looked like he had given up after the first few series.

by packallday555 on Oct 5, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was way more than 1 hit.

He was hit early and often, and not just on sacks.

by uglyfatpimplynerd on Oct 4, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Stop being such a fan

I’ve had three concussions, you’re in another state when you’re concussed. The dude got pounded on 9 times, I guess more, by people so big they could kill an average human being hitting them like that. I don’t like Cutler, but no doubt they needed to get him out of the game, I’m sure he had a concussion and if not he was at least taking way too many hits.

by Pack Man on Oct 6, 2010 2:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it was a cumulative type thing he SHOULD have been out sooner!

That one hit wasn’t that hard! I’m sorry you’ve had them but that doesn’t change my stance.

by Strohman on Oct 6, 2010 5:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I picked the wrong comment to reply to

I agree that he should have been out sooner。I just don’t want to send any ill will towards a guy who got smashed that many times in one half.

Also none of my concussions were very severe. No need to feel sorry haha

by Pack Man on Oct 6, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

When you've received a brain injury

it can be awfully difficult to diagnose yourself.

by I voted for Kodos on Oct 6, 2010 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

'72 Phins
The only undefeated team is Kansas City, and…

Those guys from the 1972 Dolphins are going to be breaking out the bubbly very early this year, haha.

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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.

by NorthStarr on Oct 4, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Pats didn’t win the SB so they don’t consider it a fully undefeated season.

by TrevorR on Oct 5, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah!

I thought it was only for the regular season. Would have been nice to see the Packers break the streak in the SB that year. :(

by Bush League All Star on Oct 5, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that were the case,

then, it would be anybody still around from the 13-0-0 1934 Chicago Bares, who lost the version of the NFL Championship Game colloquially known as ‘The Sneakers Game’ to the Giants, would be popping the corks, instead of the ’phins.

Nope, it just ain’t ‘special’ if you ain’t the champs!

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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.

by NorthStarr on Oct 5, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Cool insight. Now just imagine how hard this feat would be to do if they added 2 more games! Thanks

by Bush League All Star on Oct 6, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!

Finally someone didn’t let them off the hook!

Week one the refs let them off the hook
Week two…well that was pretty legit I guess
Week three the entire Packer team let them off the hook with penalties

Thank God for the Giants, it was PAINFUL to cheer for the Giants but it was really fun to watch them roll up sack after sack. I don’t cheer for people to get hurt, especially concussions, but the sacks were fun to watch. Collins, behind him, looked AWFUL!

by TrevorR on Oct 4, 2010 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

In week one,

it was the rulewriters, rather than the officials, who let them off the hook.
The call was consistent with the letter of the rule.

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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.

by NorthStarr on Oct 4, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

eh…maybe, maybe not. I still think that rule had some interpretation in it. The process of the catch was over in my book. He secured the ball, hit the ground, had defender make contact. His motion was the process of getting up, not the process of the catch.

by TrevorR on Oct 5, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cutler showed his true colors. I loved that Collinsworth ripped him for a couple of the sacks he took. On many of them, he HAD guys open underneath but instead wanted to wait for a deeper route to open up. All this talk about how Cutler is making much better decisions is crap. He’s still prone to the same mistakes he was last year.

by packallday555 on Oct 4, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions   4 recs

Heck…if not for all our penalties, this conversation about Cutler would have happened much sooner.

by TrevorR on Oct 5, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

What happened to the bears?

Reality happened!!! They weren’t give the game like vs Det and GB, and played a team in Dallas that is totally disfunctional despite alot of talent! WHat happened? they played a team that showed up!!!! LOL

by Strohman on Oct 5, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

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