Packer Notes: On Injuries, McCarthy On The Vikings, and They're Not Old Enough
by Brandon on Nov 16, 2010 7:01 AM CST
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The Green Bay Packers were back at practice on Monday. According to the Press-Gazette, they were out in the cold and three players didn't practice: LB Clay Matthews, WR Donald Driver, and DE Ryan Pickett. Driver was excused for a personal matter, but he still has to come back from a quad injury. It's early in the week, so this doesn't mean much except I'm watching to see how Driver and Pickett are doing.
According to Packers.com, they've just re-signed LB Robert Francois for (I believe) the third time this year. While he's been active in four games, this time he's headed for the practice squad. Is he getting sick of cleaning out his locker? Does he keep hanging out in Green Bay, or is he driving around the county like NT Howard Green in-between releases?
The Vikings sure looked awful last week. But that was on the road (where they still haven't won all season) and they play better in the Triple H dome. And they could have beaten the Packers a few weeks ago in Lambeau, which I expect the coaches will remind them of constantly. From Mike McCarthy: "Well, they look … they’re a different team in my opinion on grass than they are on turf. I think playing up in the dome is a really big advantage for them with the crowd noise."
According to the Press-Gazette, and the Journal-Sentinel, the Packers are an older team without CB Al Harris and RT Mark Tauscher. Which is a problem for some reason. Hey, I'm sympathetic because I know sports writers are always trying to find something to write about. It also gave Lori Nickel a chance to work in a "No Country For Old Men" jab. As a Coen brothers fan, I can certainly appreciate that movie reference while I wait for the True Grit remake to hit theaters. But back to the age thing, here's an age ranking from last July for a general idea. The old Steelers, Ravens, and Patriots are playing well (interesting that they're all AFC teams) while the Eagles and Giants are much younger and winning. Is there some reason why it would be better to have an older team?
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From Mike McCarthy:
Well, they look … they’re a different team in my opinion on grass than they are on turf. I think playing up in the dome is a really big advantage for them with the piped-in crowd noise."
FTFH.
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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The piped in crowd noise is not nearly as bad as
The super lame video they play at the start of games where a man wearing a “Viking” costume swings around an axe in a dimly lit room while Viking highlights are intertwined with words like “Crush” and “Destroy”.
by Charlie Kelly on Nov 16, 2010 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
yeah its really lame. They also play the stupid viking horn SO often. Its almost after like every play now. It used to be during major plays but now they do it if a guy makes a tackle or gets a first down. Really makes it seem ridiculous and overused.
Correction
It’s not a viking horn. It is the Ricola horn, and the more they blow it the more money they get from Ricola. With the extra money they promised Favre they need to blow it more this year.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 16, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Is that true?
They sold liscencing rights to the freakin horn?!!! LMAO how Pathetic!!! Packers won’t sell liscencing rights to Lambeau, but the vikes sell it on a freakin HORN… Just shows the vast differences between one class organization and one pahtetic one!!!
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I was just kidding
but the Vikings do need extra revenue. And any team that pumps in fake crowd noise seems more likely to me to sell licensing rights for something like that.
Next thing you know they’ll take that homeless person they use as a mascot and sell licensing rights for him to the United Way.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 16, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Also, because of the dome shape there is no place for the sound waves to go so they just reverberate back and forth...
it is really quite annoying isn’t it? but you know what sounds aren’t fake… the fire childress chants!!!
by supertrooper15 on Nov 16, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Vikings = Hypocrites
I recall a few years back where the Vikings, as a team, were either fined or disciplined for disconnecting the speakers right behind their bench at the Super Dome. They said it was too loud and they couldn’t communicate. Anyone else recall that?
by gern blanston on Nov 16, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Advantage of an old team
Discount rates on life insurance and someone to go to early bird specials with while on the road.
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Disadvantages
NFL announcers love saying “cagey veteran”, which apparently means any starter 32 or older.
by Puddleglumed on Nov 16, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Barely beat the Cardinals there...
barely beat the Cowboys there. Meh, not worried about playing in the Dome.
The only thing that has me kind of worried is that this is their Super Bowl. They aren’t going anywhere this year, so they are going to want this one. Especially the Pic Artist.
Random point from last night's game, but...
Did Stuart Scott make anybody else want to puke? Dude was so giddy over Vick’s performance, I think he may have pissed himself.
Scott
Can’t stand him… He is always the champion of the poor enslaved black man!!! He adds racial terms to things where they don’t belong!
You've been Stroh'd!!!
You know he killed dogs right?
That’s what I kept saying everytime they praised him. Vick is not the greatest QB to ever play. He’s very beatable. Washington just played terrible. How quickly the announcers seem to forget what Vick did. I watched a little of the Steelers game last week and was sickened. The fact that that rapist is still playing this year is exactly what’s wrong with the commish and the NFL.
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I'm ok with letting Vick rehab his image
The Roethlisberger and Pacman stuff is pretty bad though. I’m much more upset with our justice system than with the NFL though. It’s sad that the NFL should have to be responsible for punishing employees when they’re criminals. If Ben hadn’t bought his way out of his last non-trial, I’d have more respect for him. As it is, it’s pretty hard to say you’re doing your best to rehab when you’ve cheated your way out of the punishment.
I think the NFL should be more concerned with making sure their players don’t get special treatment from the courts instead of being responsible for slapping their wrists.
Not sure how/why you think Ben bought his way out!
If memory serves he was never charged w/ a crime and he still got an NFL suspension for putting himself in a really poor situation. Any evidence he bought his way out?!!! I would sure like to see it…
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Maybe I'm a bit too suspicious
But the fact that he was never charged seems pretty fishy. I think maybe this situation is that despite the witnesses, the prosecutor figured that the case wasn’t strong enough to win because it’s much harder to prosecute celebrities (see OJ Simpson). I guess maybe not his fault directly, but I and many others think it’s damn unfair that he was never charged.
No witnesses in the room at the time of the alleged rape/harrassment.
Not saying nothing happened or that Ben is guiltless by any means, but there needed to be other evidence to file charges and there wasn’t apparently.
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Donte Stallworth is the one that gets me. He was behind the wheel after drinking (over the limit, as I recall), and he wasn’t even charged. He’s never acknowledged his responsibility to my satisfaction, either. It’s always non-apology-apologies from him. Y’know, “mistakes were made” kinda’ statements. Screw that. The guy that died had kids and was on his way home from working the night shift as Donte was headed home from the clubs. Frickin’ travesty.
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 16, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think it was because he pled down and paid a crap load of money to the guys family
but I could be mistaken…
by supertrooper15 on Nov 16, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
One thing to consider
is that the man he hit was crossing a freeway, which is itself an illegal act. Not that it excuses Stallworth for drunk driving—but it isn’t like he mowed over a pedestrian on the sidewalk after leaving a bar. If you try to run across a highway you should understand you have a chance of getting hit.
by Illinois Cheesehead on Nov 18, 2010 5:19 AM CST up reply actions
That's true
Also, one could imagine that, coming home from a factory job early in the morning, he might not have been completely alert either. I’ve worked factory night shifts, and having the shift end was a natural high. I would say that I was impaired on my way home.
Still, though… Interviews I’ve read from Stallworth piss me off. I mean, even the fact that he’s doing interviews at all, really. He was drinking and driving, and a man died. That’s one of those things where maybe one should just shut up for the rest of his life. But Stallworth, after saying he felt bad for the family and everything, went on to defend his own actions. And it’s like, No. Other than “I messed up. I’m sorry. I’ll never do it again, and I learned a terrible lesson that I want to tell you about” …other than those kinds of statements, I don’t want to hear any public comments from Dante at all. Ever. Again, it’s like “you shut up now. I don’t want to hear from you about how it’s not entirely your fault. You’ve lost any credibility when it comes to ’what’s right’ or ‘fair.’ That’s your punishment, and be thankful that you got off easier than the other guy, not to mention his wife and kids.”
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 18, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
The Justice Systems
There are two justice systems in the United States. One for the common folks, one for the people who can afford great lawyers. It’s sad but it’s true. I think the O.J. Simpson case (first one) is Exhibit A in the evidence locker that money matters more than race in this system. You think a public defender would have gotten him off?
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 16, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
I don't mind Stuart Scott, actually
And last night was the first time in a long time that Steve Young didn’t bug the crap out of me. They were going gaga over Mike Vick, but rightfully so! At the risk of getting sappy, that was inspirational.
It was like watching Roy Hobbes finally take the field or something. Mike Vick could’ve been this generation’s Michael Jordan, but he was derailed by obstacles of his own creation. Even before the dogfighting and federal pen, there was a lack of work-ethic and attention to detail that an athlete (or anybody, really) needs to be great. Like Roy Hobbes’ dad said to him, “You’ve got a gift, Roy, a talent. But it’s not enough. You’ve got to develop yourself. Rely too much on your own gift, and you’ll fail.” That was Vick up until this year. He was good, maybe even great. But, now that he’s put it together, he’s transcendent in the way that everybody knew he could be.
I mean, I guess I understand if somebody loves dogs to the point that they can’t forgive what he did even after he’s paid his debt to society. I don’t think that view makes sense, but I love dogs enough that I do understand it. But, just from a football standpoint, it’s a joy to watch the guy do what he was born to do. Steve Young said it after the game: “we watched something very special tonight.” I couldn’t agree more.
…and, contributing to The Natural angle is the fact that Andy Reid even looks kinda’ like Wilford Brimley. Too bad Jim Johnson passed away, since he looked like Red. Can’t you imagine the two of them on the sidelines, “Red, I shoulda’ been a farmer. I love chickens and pigs and ducks. …kinda’ fond o’ nanny-goats, I am. Aw, c’mon, Fowler, throw STRIKES!!”
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 16, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Mike Vick
Used to be my favorite non-Packer. Every year I contemplated buying a Vick jersey. But I also love dogs. For two years I hated Vick, and even went so far as to call the Packers and leave a message saying I didn’t want him on my team, and encouraged friends to do so as well.
But
After a few years the anger towards Vick subsided. Yes, he did terrible things. Nothing will ever change the past. But going forward I have to give him the benefit of the doubt that he has changed for the better.
I’m not much of a Christian, but I do believe that forgiveness and redemption are important. If we just treated the Michael Vick’s of the world as scum for the rest of their lives, what are the odds that they will make anything of themselves going forward? What is their incentive to improve themselves if everyone still views them as nothing more than a criminal and a worthless human being. Most criminals do not have Vick’s talent, but he is now a national symbol of forgiveness and redemption for many people, some of whom may be criminals or ex-criminals. They are all human and I don’t think it’s realistic to expect them to improve their lives if we call them criminals and thugs and yell "boo"and bring up their past whenever they do something positive. If you treat a man like a criminal that is exactly what he will be.
So I have forgiven Vick and even cheer him on. I still can’t forget what he did, but a few years since, I can forgive.
I can imagine I will feel the same about Brett Favre one day. [insert emoticon of mixed feelings here]
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 16, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Good post regarding Vick.
It’s a totally different discussion with the other ex-Falcon QB you mentioned. My grudge against Favre is directly tied to being a football fan, whereas Vick’s sins were off the field. I’m actually more likely to forgive human failings. That’s real life, whereas my scorn for Favre is all about football. The text-message thing is none of my business as far as I’m concerned, since it’s not a crime and I don’t personally know him. A guy who commits a crime? That’s my business as a member of society. So, that’s the situation with me & Mike Vick. (which, my opinion is obviously not that important to either Favre or Vick, but every fan goes on his own little ethical and emotional journey, which is exactly what we’re talking about here, so… here goes)
Favre made the decision to play with the Vikings (and I believe he decided that while still with the Packers, btw), and so losing my loyalty or whatever you want to call it is simply the consequence of that decision. …y’know, it’s not that I hate him or anything. But he CHOSE to play for my team’s biggest division rival. That decision has consequences, one of which is losing me as a fan.
I don’t understand why Vick did what he did. And I don’t think he understood it, either. But now he’s seen the light, said he’s sorry, and changed his ways. With Favre, on the other hand, he knew what he was doing (or he definitely should have), and he peed on my cereal as a football fan. What he did isn’t something one would apologize for, you know what I’m saying? And, again, there’s no hatred there… maybe I would’ve done the same thing in his shoes. But, if I did, I would expect there to be consequences. What he did isn’t “wrong,” it’s just not something you do to your fan-base if you’re a legend (and want to continue to BE a legend) for a team.
So, strange as it sounds, I don’t see myself ever “forgiving” Favre. How do you forgive somebody for something that A) isn’t wrong, and B) they’ll never apologize for?
Also, I don’t hate Favre as a person. I hate him as a player. Once he was gone, the spell was lifted and I see his (many) failings as a player. How does one un-learn that?
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 16, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Sums up my feelings
about Favre pretty well.
And I’m giving Vick the benefit of the doubt because the obvious turnaround in his professional work ethic suggests a similar moral rehab. So I think his comeback’s a good story (to the extent that theory’s accurate). Plus he’s fun to watch play football.
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by NorthSidePaulie on Nov 16, 2010 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
hands down.
He might be MVP and Offensive Player of the Year too. Has anyone ever swept all three of those?
…and just think, him being unleashed on the league is OUR fault guys. If Matthews hadn’t killed Kolb, the Eagles would just be a slightly above average team with a little wildcat sprinkled in.
Haha… damn you CM3… I was hoping he would have been a back-up all year and the vikes could have gotten him for cheap… now if he goes anywhere he will be getting big time cash lol
by supertrooper15 on Nov 17, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
big time cash doesn’t even approach what he’s going to get. He’ll probably get franchised and then if he’s traded its going to take a HUGE ransom of picks and then a new monster contract.
If that happens
will the Vikings pay the ransom? I bet they will if they think it can bring a stadium.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 18, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
eh…I don’t think players will get them a stadium. They’ve been spending like crazy for years and it hasn’t done it. Their problem is that they are trying to get money in a city that just finished two major stadiums (Twins & Gophers). I can’t understand why they stopped persuing the Blaine location…it made SO much sense. I think it would have been done by now.
They are saying that this new session they will figure something out for a stadium
and thats coming from republican who hate spending money so hopefully they can figure something out…. I think with how much money the Twins are making they should have to speed up how fast they pay back the state and then use that money for the vikes stadium or just fold the Gophers football program and give them TCF stadium lol
by supertrooper15 on Nov 18, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Name the last Republican (or Democrat) who hated spending money. Fact is, politicians never like to cut spending because it costs jobs and that costs them re-election. But that’s for another blog, and nothing will happen either way until the recount is finished.
So far it looks like the Vikings haven’t been able to buy the players to get them a new stadium, but maybe Wilf is like a Dan Snyder type – the type who thinks throwing cash around will buy a championship.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 18, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
The average time for a new stadium to get approved, nationwide, is 10 years…the Vikings are right about at that average this next year. I am sure it will get done…
It will get done. Ziggy is a billionaire so I dont see why he wont just pay for it and reap all the profit for himself. Either way I see a deal getting done before 2012.
by supertrooper15 on Nov 23, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Vick
I was the opposite… Never was a Vick fan and didn’t ever for the life of me think he would become a great passer! No doubt about his athletic ability whatsoever, but I never saw anythiing to make me think he would push himself to become an accurate passer and student of the game! He just relied on his athletic skills to much.
But appparently Vick came to a realization in prison that in order to be a great QB you must be accurate and study alot. He is proving me wrong and for his sake I hope he continues… WHen Ried spoke to him about signing him apparently Vick said he wanted to learn to be a complete QB. Wanted help w/ his mechanics, footwork, reading defenses, and learning blocking schemes. His realization of what it takes to become a great QB is what imresses me the most! There is a lesson in there somewhere!!! He’s making a convert of me!
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Nice post
Thanks for the excellent post. Rec’d.
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Nov 16, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent post
I will say that is the problem with our penal system today. Everyone wants justice as well they should. Justice needs to be served. The criminals however also need to be rehabilitated, and sadly the common criminal usually has no shot at that.
Sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.
I agree. I think the best thing Vick did was separate himself from many of those close associates he had back then… the easiest way to fall back into that pattern is to hang out with the same people
by supertrooper15 on Nov 17, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Vick
I try not to get too hung up on abstractions like good and evil, but the actions of Michael Vick were cruel and premeditated and I just don’t know how a grown man outgrows that.
This implies
that Vick was a grown man in all ways prior to going to prison. I’m of the mind that a lot of 20-something year old guys are not “grown men” (which makes me wonder what I’m saying of myself, but whatever), and the whole legal episode I’m sure made an impact on him.
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Alright, let me ask you this then
Do you think little boys don’t know that doing drugs is wrong? That street violence is wrong? That stealing is wrong? And yet people of all ages, races, socio-economic statuses, etc. do these things. Are you going to tell me that you don’t think they can be rehabilitated?
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
And to get on my soap box here
Why is the dog fighting issue the one that everyone gets up in arms about? I see it all over the place about how people will never forget or forgive Vick for what he did to those dogs. And while I will give you that what he did was despicable, I’m appalled at the lack of outrage against athletes (or, for the most part, people in general) who harm a human being. Where is the outrage over Ray Lewis or Donte Stallworth killing a man? Where is the outrage over players beating their wives or partners? Where is the outrage for players driving drunk and putting the lives of other people at risk?
We forget these incidents so quickly, and yet we hang on to Michael Vick killed dogs. I don’t get it. Is a dog’s life more sacred than a human’s? Is it that these other incidents fade into the background noise of society while Vick’s stands out? Why are we so quick to give people who harmed other people a second chance and yet hold this over Vick’s head every chance we get?
/dismounts soap box
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Re: dogfighting and anger
Not saying people shouldn’t be outraged by drinking and driving (especially when you’re rich enough to afford a limo/cab), but I think part of the difference is that Vick did this repeatedly and over time – it wasn’t an “in the moment” decision. Also, I think people view dogs as defenseless individuals, much like they would especially abhor a crime against a child. Not that one can “defend” oneself against drunk drivers, but somehow it makes the crime seen worse when the victim is seen as “defenseless” or “innocent.”
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 18, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
I do get the whole "defenseless" argument
I don’t agree with it, but I get it.
I guess I have a harder time with the “in the moment” argument, because I’m willing to bet that player who does get caught with a DUI aren’t doing it for the first time, and domestic abusers probably aren’t on their first instance either. Was Vick’s more deliberate, well, possibly. But repeat drunk drivers aren’t really having “in the moment” decisions IMO.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Good point
Most people caught drinking and driving are not first time offenders, and they do set themselves up to fail when they drive somewhere knowing they’re going to drink. But I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt, and there really isn’t much doubt in Vick’s case regarding his intentions or what he did.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 18, 2010 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
But, dog fighting was part of his culture growing up, just like cock fighting is part of the culture in mexico. Thats not an excuse however, just saying that it is similar to the households most drunk drivers come from. Also, I would not consider a Pit Bull defenseless…. maybe a Golden or another type of dog that could not bite back hard even if it wanted to.
by supertrooper15 on Nov 23, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, Kodos supporter
Defenseless or not, there is no merit in comparing a crime against a dog to a crime against a human child.
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Didn't say they were completely the same
Just said they were similar in that they are viewed as voiceless/defenseless.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 19, 2010 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
What?
According to the Press-Gazette, and the Journal-Sentinel, the Packers are an older team without CB Al Harris and RT Mark Tauscher.
How are we an older team with a couple of our oldest guys gone?
haha me too... it seems like the pack is pretty young everywhere but O-Line???
by supertrooper15 on Nov 16, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
They’re decently young there too, aside from Clifton and Tauscher. The interior guys, Colledge, Wells, and Sitton are 28, 29? (could be 30), and I believe 24. Obviously Buluga is young, and Lang is 23 who looked like he could become a quality player last year when he was starting because of injuries.
by packallday555 on Nov 16, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Woodson, Picket, Barnett are the only ones that I can think of that could be a "cagey vet"
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by blackoutsox on Nov 17, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Same. The three of them are 33, 31, and 29 right?
by packallday555 on Nov 17, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Umm old math?
I’m confused, Sam Shields is a rookie, and so’s Bryan Bulaga, how does not having Tausch and Al make them older if rookies are taking their place? I’m glad to see Spencer Havner back. I know some of you guys were “Hatin’ on the Hav” but I thought he did well last season when he relieved Finley. In McCarthy’s Offense, ya gotta have a TE and I think that Spencer will improve as he gets the reps with Quarless still being on the mend. I’m looking forward to the game I’m going to down in Atlanta, I’m sure I’ll be among friends even in “enemy territory”. Go PACK GO!!!
No Country...
You don’t know what you’re talking about, do you?
Brandon
Also, dude, “Triple H dome” is not the preferred nomenclature. “Mall of America Field,” please.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 16, 2010 12:52 PM CST reply actions
NO!!!
Screw that stuff… Its the Humpty Dumpty Dome!!! Or Dumpty dome for short.
You've been Stroh'd!!!
Mark it an 8
and you’re entering a world of pain.
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 16, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Over the Line... Mark it ZERO!!
haha name that movie?
by supertrooper15 on Nov 16, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Actually...
It’s both technically.
Really it’s the MoA field at the Triple H Dome. I remember Paul Allen going on about it once while I was listening to K-FAN. So when announcing it or referencing it it’s supposed to be the long version the first time and then MoA after that.
by PackApologist on Nov 16, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Kind of like
The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim?
"We've got Hank Baskett"
by I voted for Kodos on Nov 16, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Or the Los Angeles Mighty Ducks of Anaheim?
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more like
minnehapless viqueens of los angeles
by fn_cold_ak on Nov 16, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL @ "of los angeles"
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by NorthSidePaulie on Nov 16, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Time to invade the dome...
JS had an article about a lot of tickets available for the Packers game.
I hope the Packers fans who live within a few hours of Minny snatch up these tickets and help create our own home field advantage.
JUST DO IT!
it's great
when the fans travel so well. It makes me proud to be a Packer fan when they’re playing across the country and there are more green and gold jerseys than that of the home team. After this game we might win a couple converts.
by Illinois Cheesehead on Nov 18, 2010 5:21 AM CST up reply actions
Remember this.
Packer fans are everywhere!
Not all of those green and gold jerseys that you see are flying all the way from Wisconsin!
My first Packers game was at the Kingdome (1996).
I joined many other Packers fans flying down from Alaska, as well as a lot of fans from Vancouver and a lot more from all over the left coast.
Additionally, some of those green and gold jerseys are flying in from further away than Wisconsin!
Packer nation is worldwide!
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