SB Nation Power Rankings: Packers Up To No. 2
Actually the Green Bay Packers were ranked No. 2 overall last week too, and they remained unchanged in this week's SB Nation NFL Power Rankings. It's a tangled group of 7-2, 6-3 teams (Falcons, Eagles, Saints, Giants, Buccaneers, and Bears) in the NFC, but the Packers have the best point differential in the NFL. They've allowed the fewest points in the NFC, and have scored the 4th most (only behind the Eagles, Giants, and Falcons).
From Joel Thorman:
They've allowed seven points in their last two games. It's looking like the season finale against the Bears may be a big one.
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Anyway, we’ve allowed the fewest points scored in the NFL, not just the NFC.
I agree.
Interesting posts from the LPC’s
by Bush League All Star on Nov 17, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Packers have already beat 2 top 5 teams on the list!
Next up is Atl for a 3-some!!! LOL
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by Strohman on Nov 17, 2010 4:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
How legitimate is the Eagles win, though?
That’s what I’ve been wondering. If Vick plays that whole game and the Packers had a chance to prepare for him, do the Packers win? I know you can’t project that at this point, but it almost feels like that win has a small taint to it.
Forget that Bears game for now, the game against the Falcons on the 28th will be big. That’s going to be big for seeding. A win there could be all about home-field advantage. I know I shouldn’t talk too much about seeding right now, because as it stands today, the Packers wouldn’t even make the playoffs if the season ended right now.
I think the current Packers can beat the current Eagles
Game planning for Vick is way different than having Vick come off the bench, where the “D” isn’t prepared for him.
This last Monday night was an aberration for the Eagles.
The Packers defense, I think, is much more disciplined in keeping their lanes and such, so, having prepped for Vick, I don’t think he could just take off like he has been. Maybe one or two plays, but nowhere near what he did before.
As for our “O” and their “D”, we’d be just fine.
Be an exciting game for sure, but I see the Packers still winning.
No way for us to know if we could beat the Eagles at this point.
Vick beat the Packers that game.
Fortunately, we had built up enough of a lead and Vick did not have enough time to bring them all the way back.
It will be interesting to see if anyone comes up with an actual working game-plan to stop the man (before we have to face him again).
I seem to recall
Vick getting stopped by Clay Matthews on a critical 4th-and-1 to effectively end the game. He had a shot to win, couldn’t get it done. He brought the Eagles most of the way back.
by Archibaldcrane on Nov 17, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
He also hesitated on an easy run for a TD that cost the Eagles 4 points
If that same opportunity comes up on Sunday, I don’t think he pauses and tries to throw.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That Eagles D is for real. They hustle, and they’re smart and athletic. They make teams look bad.
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 17, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, those blitz schemes they run are tricky. Their defense as a whole is really, really fast.
by packallday555 on Nov 17, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
It's legitimate
The Packers DIDN’T (key word there) prepare for the dog killer, and they got burned.
On most accounts, I would typically agree.
But this is one where there are still a lot of people who have a strong animosity towards someone who in fact did kill dogs, not to mention the other things he did to them before killing them. People have a fairly strong attachment to their animals, elevated to almost family-like status, so it is hard for them to detach themselves from what actually had occurred.
For instance, Bill Plaschke wrote this recently.
I would also qualify the statement by including other players who have committed devious acts such as Stallworth.
What you may see as childish, others see as truth.
by Bush League All Star on Nov 19, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We are gonna’ get waxed this week.
All this overconfidence and then some borderline blasphemy in the recent fanpost…
Don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying all this foolish pride as much as the next guy …our awesome defense and the Vikings are a mess and Favre’s got one foot in the grave etc. etc. …y’know, overconfidence is fun while it lasts, but…
We’re in the roaring 20’s right now, the guilded age. We are just gonna’ get torched. I know it in my bones.
woah, thanks, I needed that
Maybe it’s just the fact that I remember the 80s or the way Favray always choked JUST when you started counting on him again, or whatever, I don’t know. But I believe firmly in watching for warning signs of impending stomach-punch games and putting my guard up accordingly.
Seeing all the red flags popping up all over the place, I am officially bracing myself.
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 17, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
…but, at the same time…
There’s no way we lose this game, right? Seriously, it just doesn’t seem possible.
Do I dare go out on that emotional limb and expect the Pack to give the Vikings the butt kicking they so richly deserve? Because, I mean, obviously there’s rarely been a better time than this Sunday for us, as Packer fans, to trust that good will surely vanquish evil.
Seriously, I’m asking.
I just don’t want to be hurt again.
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 17, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I think the team
will be focused, like they were the Dallas game. They usually are come the second half of the season.
It’s the first half of the season where they tend to lay a stinker or two.
Can we lose? Yeah. But I don’t think we will.
I think the bye should help
I would hope a bunch of healthier players will give them confidence in a good way
Yes, I can see how my overconfidence
will cause the packers to become complacent against the Vikings.
All is vanity.
by levnclf on Nov 17, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Well, if you had read what I wrote...
you’d see that what I’m talking about is not the team’s performance, but how prepared I am for however ready they are.
…although, it is also true that teams get overconfident for the same reasons that fans do (media-hype, resting on laurels, etc.), so the fans’ attitudes can be related to the team’s attitude without being the cause. …which is your word, not mine.
I hate it when people say crap like that “oh, it doesn’t matter what fans thoughts are”. Go look at some stats. Jeez.
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 18, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Teams confidence
IMO, teams get over confident in the offseason due to the continued media coverage all during the offseason… Once the season starts players are generally far to wrapped up in preparation to really be concerned w/ what the media has to say. If it happens its at the start of the season, but its pretty much gone once the games begin and the season is under way! Besides which McCarthy doesn’t allow the players to feel to good about themselves and keeps the team in general on a very even keel!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
No, you're wrong
Pro football is finally an entertainment business. To say that they don’t pay attention to what’s being said or written about them is like saying that an actor doesn’t read reviews of his performance. Perception is where their bread is buttered. Another example would be a politician watching the polls.
It’s also just human nature. If somebody wrote something about your job performance, you’re telling me that you’re going to ignore it? You would probably say “oh, I don’t care about that stuff; I pay attention to things I can control” or something, just like they do when talking to the media. But, the truth is, you (like anybody) would soak it all up and never forget it.
Now, do I think that Curly Lambeau’s reply to Strohman affects the way the Packers will play on Sunday? No, I don’t. That’s why I have a sense of humor about the whole thing (or at least I did until you statistician-cyborgs started raining on my parade). However, this blog site does have a fairly prominent link on SI.com (which is how I found it), and I would not be surprised to find out that there are players and employees of the Packers checking it out, at least from time to time. What “I” say doesn’t matter much, if at all. But, what “we” say (meaning the writers and fans as a whole) does absolutely matter. This is all free advertising that is either good or bad for them. Again, not that they surf every comment on every blog, but they absolutely have a pretty good sense of what people generally are thinking and saying.
Therefore, if they think that people’s perception of them is high, there is a devil on their shoulder that will whisper “you can kinda’ coast here for awhile if you want.”
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 18, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Time
The difference is Football is a TEAM game, not an individual endeavor such as acting or politics… Besides whick once the season starts, players are spending upwards of 80 hrs a week on football! They just don’t have the time during the season to pay nearly as much attention. Besides all the time spent on football they have family and friends w/ whom they spend alot of downtime. Football is not just a full-time job, its more like 2 full-time jobs!
Surely players care how they are percieved, but during the season is not when they spend time cultivating that perception. The offseason is when they do that and during the season their action on the field and the little time in interviews is the only way they can control the publics perception of them!
Thats MY opinion and I’m sticking to it…. And don’t try to tell me I’m wrong!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
No, I’ll grant you that coaches spend the equivalent of two full-time jobs. But, in their case, their job-security is more tied up in perception than anybody else, which means they’ll be more tempted to become tuned into the pulse of reporters and fans. Chilly just made a comment (today, I think) about getting booed when he comes out of the tunnel. He knows what people think. McCarthy just the other day reacted to a reporter’s question about practicing indoors vs. outdoors in a way that showed that he was very sensitive to what reporters (and the fans they inform) were thinking.
And, as for players, their job is more physically draining than any other job, but it’s not more time-consuming than your average 9-to-5. Probably less, actually. They’ve probably got more time to play video games and surf the internet than you or me. …if they want to. Which, some guys will want to and some guys won’t. So, “it’s a team game,” you say. I say, okay fine. Maybe there are some guys that either don’t care (or don’t enjoy reading), but you’re just wrong if you believe that any of them completely escape the media scrutiny that goes on during the season. You’re entitled to “YOUR opinion” but, in this case, YOUR opinion is dead wrong. Deal with it.
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 18, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
So football isn't mentally draining?
How many hours a day do players spend endlessly watching tape to gain any edge they can? My guess is ALOT!!! The physical nature of the game just means that they are more tired and need more sleep!!! Sleep = recovery!! Extra sleep and another 3-4 hrs watching/studying film equals a good 12 hrs per, maybe more!! Over the course of 6 days = game day and yeah your lookin at close to 80 hrs per wk.
Thought we were talking players, not coaches. Coaches have to keep a good media relationship that goes w/ the territory. I hear what McCarthy said and it sounded very much like a joke…
Again its a matter of opinion… That doesn’t make mine wrong!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Yeah, McCarthy said that good-naturedly. My point is that he is well aware of what people are talking about. I brought up coaches because we’re talking about whether the team is affected by fans’ opinion.
As far as a player’s schedule, the team portion of practice probably lasts a couple hours, maximum. You’d have a team meeting to go over game-plan stuff, a couple position meetings to fine-tune your assignments, watch some film, so on and so forth. I bet they’re home by 5:30.
I’m not going to address your “point” about sleep. If you want to think that they’re all tucked into bed by 7:30, with no interest in what people think of them, then you go ahead and believe that. After all, as we all know, if a guy believes his own opinions hard enough, they come true.
by Curly Lambeau on Nov 18, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Football is WAY more than just a 9 - 5 game!
And you think film study ends when players go home? Not hardly!! It just starts when they get home…
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
could we lose?
Sure we could lose. We can lose any game on any day. Look at the giants losing to the cowboys after we smoked them the week before. I didn’t even tape that game cause I figured it would be another blow out, now I wish I had.
The point is, although I haven’t been paying as close attention as I have the last two years, because I didn’t have the time, I never expect to win. Which makes winning so much a nice suprise.
As for will we lose this Sunday, if I had to bet money I’d bet it on the packers. MN simply doesn’t have the weapons in the air to compete with our offense, and our D has been nothing short of amazing. Unless we have another stinker of an opener like the Arizona game, I see this as a pretty good win.
I always worry coming off a bye wk.
We have no slam dunks left on our schedule. We need to win 4 of the next 7. Maybe some fans are overconfident, but I bet the team isn’t.
Vikes-be nice to get the sweep.
Lions-should win, but the Lions always play tuff at home. They almost came back against us.
Atl, Giants, Pats-need to win 2 of those 3 games.
SF-should win, but they’re improving.
Chi-MUST win, and by more that they beat us, for the tie-breaker. Every wk. peoploe pick the Bears to lose, but they find a way to win. A team like that is scary.
Not a factor
Chi-MUST win, and by more that they beat us, for the tie-breaker.
Head-to-head net points is not a factor in the NFL Tiebreaking Procedures.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
Even if it was
I think we could probably muster a better win than a last-second FG.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
and PLEASE no more last second FG's versus the bears
they always block them
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
by blackoutsox on Nov 17, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'd actually rather they just went for it at this point
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow
by blackoutsox on Nov 17, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
This team shines against the best
This team seems to kick it up a notch when it plays against the best so I am confident they will do good in the remaining weeks.
They played well a tough Eagles team in a place where we hardly win and went to the Meadowlands and pretty much put the hammer down on the Jets with the D when all the critics were writing off our season as another promising campaign derailed by injuries. Our letdowns have been against so-so to bad teams….Chicago, Washington, Miami, and we almost blew the win against Detroit.
We are going to see the same intensity in Minneapolis and pretty much the rest of the way. Frankly, I am more worried about possible letdowns against Detroit and 49ers than concerned about this team’s ability to show up in a game against a big opponent. I am not going to make predictions about our record but barring any catastrophic injuries (we’ve had our fair share of them this year) I think we will win this division.
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Nov 17, 2010 6:40 PM CST reply actions
If that is what it takes,
This team seems to kick it up a notch when it plays against the best
If that is what it takes,
then we are in trouble Sunday and in Week 17. :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is way more than half-full!
If these rankings are true, then the bears must be number one!
“ducks
4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

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