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Preview: Packers at Lions

This might be a classic trap game for the Green Bay Packers. Their final three games are up against three of the top teams in the NFL (Patriots, Giants, and Bears) and only the Lions stand between them. The intensity is down a little, the beat writers only came up with five questions for Mike McCarthy's press conference, and it's been a long season.

Plus the Lions are playing slightly better than their record. Having only been outscored 306 to 278 on the season is more indicative of a 5 win team, instead of a 2-10 record. But they've been dealing with some injuries, and they might be slumping down the stretch.

More on this game after the jump. And you can read more about the Lions at Pride Of Detroit.

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Rankings from Football Outsiders:

Teams Run Offense Pass Offense Run Defense Pass Defense
Packers 10 7 16 3
Lions 27 20 26 24

Packers Offense vs. Lions Defense

Maybe the balance has been restored. With RB James Starks finally ready to play, last week against the 49ers, he essentially replaced RB Ryan Grant by taking a majority of the handoffs (18 carries), FB John Kuhn powered his way in the T-Formation for four first downs and one touchdown, and RB Brandon Jackson played more downs than either of them since he's third down back and a better pass blocker. Despite all the hype surrounding DT Ndamukong Suh, he's been very inconsistent this season. Last week against the Bears, RB Matt Forte and RB Chester Taylor seemed to have running lanes available to them despite the Bears poor offensive line (ranked No. 28 in run blocking). QB Aaron Rodgers says that teams aren't putting an eight man in the box against them, and I'm sure that will be the case against the Lions. The Packers will run the ball against the Lions, it's just a question whether it will be Starks leading the way again.

No pass defense has stopped Rodgers since the Jets game on Halloween. Under the best of circumstances, a matchup against the Packers would be tough for the Lions, and now they've just lost two starters to injury. Except another big passing game for the Packers. 

Lions Offense vs. Packers Defense

I've been unimpressed by RB Jahvid Best in large part because he's been limited by a serious toe injury all season, and he'll be a player to watch in 2011. The Lions have finally realized his limitations, and have given some carries to RB Maurice Morris over the last three weeks. It seems to be making a difference because the Lions have run the ball better over their last three games. The Packers run defense has struggled against RB Adrian Peterson and RB Michael Turner, but QB Shaun Hill was the Lions leading rusher against the Packers on October 3rd. Despite the absence of a game-changing running back, the Lions could have some success running the ball.

Any pass offense with WR Calvin Johnson has a chance at causing some havoc. I was surprised how well QB Drew Stanton played last week. The Bears defense is designed to give up short passes, and make their opponent work down the field before they make a mistake. Instead, Stanton did a good job of hitting on those short passes, and one of them turned into a long touchdown run for Johnson. The key will be to stop them from converting on 3rd down, which was a big problem back on October 3rd when the Lions went 10 for 17 on 3rd down conversions and kept the Packers offense off the field for a large chunk of the game. Watch out for TE Brandon Pettigrew, who was awful last week, but did well back on October 3rd and the Packers struggle against tight ends (see TE Vernon Davis last week).

Hidden Football

According to Team Rankings, the Packers have slipped and now only commit the 9th fewest penalties, but the Lions are near the bottom as the 2nd most penalized team. As usual, the Packers are one of the worst special teams units and the Lions are playing much better than them. Most of the Lions success has been due to KR Stefan Logan on kick returns (No. 1 average per ESPN), and the Packers lousy kick coverage is going to have to prevent the big play on Sunday.

Prediction

If the Lions can score 20 last week against the Bears, and 26 in October against the Packers, they can certainly put up over 20 points against the Packers on Sunday. The last time the Packers played inside against a team that is struggling on offense and defense, they beat the Vikings 31-3. The Lions usually play tough in the first half, and it might take until the 4th quarter before the Packers pull away. Packers 31, Lions 23.

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I was impressed from what I saw in Stanton

Not his version of “The Dougie”, but his overall performance was good for a first time QB. He showed a lot of moves and defensive reading that would be in a 3rd or 4th year QB. Too bad Duh Bears got lucky in that game too.

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.

by P-Townfan on Dec 10, 2010 7:31 AM CST reply actions  

Reports out there are the Calvin is done with the Lions, he wants to be on a winner. maybe we can team him up with Jennings and then Jones or Nelson in the slot. What a group of WRs!! :-)

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Dec 10, 2010 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

Link please?

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Dec 10, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Nevermind

Here’s the interview. I kind of think this is a non-news story though. What do you expect the guy to say? I’d be frustrated as heck if I was on the Lions too.

Also, I really hope that this is tongue-in-cheek, because if those are the reasons to stay in Detroit, I’m not sure why anyone would stay.

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Dec 10, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

in two years...

and that’s if they don’t franchise him – which they probably will.

Personally, I’ve never really understood those guys that choose to go to a losing team because the money is a little better. Winning makes everything okay.

by gern blanston on Dec 10, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Megatron ain't going anywhere...

I think anyone who’s seen this team play (except Detroit fans, who are always ready for an ignominius season – and yes, I used ‘ignominious.’) expects them to only get better. The only problem they face is that the NFC North is a tough division to win against, the Vikes’ horrible season not withstanding.

If they pick up some good defenders in their secondary (and I fully expect them to), that ability to score high points will actually mean something. Calvin’s their marquee player… he knows this and just wants to make sure the Fords know it, too.

If there’s any changes in the Lions lineup over the off-season, it might be that Shaun Hill becomes their starter and they decide to take their time building up Stafford’s toughness.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi

by AdamA on Dec 10, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Targeted Muscle Building Program

Plus extended time to heal. Some players just aren’t ready for the level of physicality in the NFL and take time to develop. He clearly needs help with his shoulders. Another similar injury and I don’t think there’ll be too many teams who’ll want him.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi

by AdamA on Dec 10, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

the lions

have been known for a long time as a QB graveyard, they kill every QB they’ve had, especially young ones

by bigbill992001 on Dec 10, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Kitna's Played Well...

…just not for them. And let’s not forget Charlie Batch, who managed to earn a ring as Ben’s backup in Pittsburgh…. not that that one counts or anything. But yeah.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi

by AdamA on Dec 10, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

10th in rush offense

is that correct?

Upon Furter Review.........

The Bears Still Suck

by smackwaterjack on Dec 10, 2010 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

By DVOA

Yes

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Dec 10, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

What are the parameters for that formula?

How do they determine those rankings?

Upon Furter Review.........

The Bears Still Suck

by smackwaterjack on Dec 10, 2010 12:33 PM CST reply actions  

Nevermind

i got it

Upon Furter Review.........

The Bears Still Suck

by smackwaterjack on Dec 10, 2010 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

Who's nickel back if Woodson can't go?

And how do the Packers cover Pettigrew, Scheffler, and Johnson? I’m a bit worried about this one. If the Packers lose and Chicago beats the Vikings, I think then it’s down to the Giants game. Exciting game.

by Mr. Saturn on Dec 10, 2010 1:34 PM CST reply actions  

Williams can cover Johnson

I’m not too concerned about that matchup. I’m more worried about covering their TE’s. Hawk isn’t going to cut it against Pettigrew.

As far as nickel back, I’m not sure who that would be. I’m guessing Underwood.

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Dec 10, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget Burleson

He hasn’t been consistent, but he can light up defenders on occassion.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi

by AdamA on Dec 10, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh

Burleson the 65th WR by DVOA? I’m not too concerned with Shields shutting him down. It is Drew Stanton after all. If there’s a second guy beyond Calvin Johnson who will hurt us, it’s definitely Pettigrew.

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Dec 10, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

CM3
Right tackle Gosder Cherilus (knee) is doubtful for Sunday’s game against the Green Bay Packers and likely will be replaced by Corey Hilliard.

Ok guys, this is the week the Clay has to dominate and put up some sacks.

Over/under on Clays sacks at 2?

by StephanL on Dec 10, 2010 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

i pick 2

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by blackoutsox on Dec 10, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Over!

Got to retake the league lead.

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

EXTEND JASON RICHARDSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Omaha Sun on Dec 10, 2010 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure how this is a trap game

When the team you’re facing has lost 19 consecutive division games. Pathetic.

Packers 38, Lions 13

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 10, 2010 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

To answer your question

This attitude.

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Dec 10, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me guess...

“They’re loaded with talent! It’s a division game!! We only beat them by 2 points the first time!!!”

That’s fine and dandy, but the Cowboys were supposed to be a trap too. And the 49ers. The viqueens were supposed to beat us too. Good teams beat bad ones, and that’s that.

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 10, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

And yet every year some bad teams find ways to beat good teams

Just because previous games have been potential trap games and turned out not to be doesn’t mean future games can’t be trap games. If Detroit plays a complete game on their end the Packers can’t just show up and expect to win. And that is what a potential trap game is about.

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Dec 10, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

So

What about our bucs game last year? Were we a bad team? Shit happens, man.

by msc32887 on Dec 10, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

We certainly weren't good at the time

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 11, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

We weren't good at that time, either

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 11, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

it very well COULD be a trap game

the Lions are also known for knocking off a top team almost every yr. Ask Dallas a few yrs. ago. We’d better be ready for them.

by bigbill992001 on Dec 10, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

We're on the outside looking in on the playoff race

I am sure there is no one in the Packers locker room overlooking this game, it’s vital to make the postseason. This is not a trap game, we will win by a few scores.

by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 10, 2010 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

Crucial week, with the Bears playing the Pats, this is a MUST win for the Packers

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by OznCoop on Dec 11, 2010 8:48 AM CST reply actions  

Trap game?

I honestly don’t think so. Not from a cocky attitude standpoint, but just from a confidence in their skills. IIRC, McCarthy hasn’t lost to Detroit as the coach of GB. And i’m sure he’s got the team focused.

by AquaBreaker on Dec 11, 2010 10:32 PM CST reply actions  

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