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Packers Injuries: On Aaron Rodgers's Concussion

Mike McCarthy noted it in his Monday press conference that it will take a couple days to completely evaluate QB Aaron Rodgers after his concussion. He'll be tested by the team doctors, and then have an independent evaluation performed by an outside doctor on Wednesday or Thursday. It's anyone's guess whether he'll play next week.

He also discussed promoting QB Graham Harrell from the practice squad, if Rodgers can't play. That's not a very exciting move, but Harrell has been with the team all season and he knows the offense. He played OK during the preseason, and he has the potential to be as good as QB Matt Flynn. He wouldn't be a disaster if they were forced to turn to him in a worst case scenario.

Unfortunately for the defense, McCarthy said that DE Cullen Jenkins is certainly out next Sunday. They can replace what he can does as a run defender, but no one can replace his skills as a pass rusher. There doesn't seem to be any timetable for his return.

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This sounds like a precursor to Jenkins being placed on IR

It’s been their MO this year to put guys on IR if they’re going to be out for more than 3 games, and Jenkins could very well end up missing this and next week.

by Jason Hirschhorn on Dec 13, 2010 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

I dont know

if theres a real point to putting Cullen on the IR at this point… it’s so late in the season that we’re probably better off keeping him on the roster in case he’s good enough to go IF we make the playoffs.

It’d take a new guy a couple weeks to get used to the game calls and schemes plus I don’t think there’s really anyone worth bringing onto the team

by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 13, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

[Harrell] played OK during the preseason, and he has the potential to be as good as QB Matt Flynn.

Damning with faint praise?

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by GoGregGo on Dec 13, 2010 3:47 PM CST reply actions  

what else is there?

maybe a trade for derek anderson? There are no QB’s out there that are in baseball terms a positive WAR player. This could really hurt us, since we dont run the ball, and now when you need to you cant. I just hope that one of our QB’s can be 70% of what rodgers was

by bugenj222 on Dec 13, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, first of all, we are well past the trading deadline

And second, there’s no way we could reasonably prepare a new quarterback to play against New England in a week.

My point was basically that I hope it doesn’t come to Harrell being put into the game.

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by GoGregGo on Dec 13, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i know we are past the trade deadline

I was making a point that there really is no one out there for a QB, we are better wtih who we have, then bringing in a street free agent, or a waiver guy.

by bugenj222 on Dec 14, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure what he has left.

I watched him here in Omaha and couldn’t get a good read on him. The line and WRs were terrible, so he didn’t have much help. He led the team to a few come-from-behind last-second-TD type victories early in the season, and then the whole team fell apart.

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by Omaha Sun on Dec 15, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

ahhh he was being sarcastic.

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by TrevorR on Dec 14, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

same as the statement that the packers can replace what jenkins brings to the run defense.

really? they better go to plan B cause they didn’t replace jenkins run stopping ability yesterday.
190 yards——seriously.

question———-if jenkins isn’t signed next year. who would you guys rather given the contract too—-jenkins or pickett?

by hermitcrab on Dec 13, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed, they absolutely can’t replace what Jenkins does in any way, shape, or form. He’s our best defensive lineman by far, and yet he still hasn’t signed a contract extension, which is alarming to me.

by packallday555 on Dec 13, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Easily. He’s twice the player Pickett is. I think Jenkins is the most underrated guy in the NFL.

by packallday555 on Dec 14, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

We have no idea what Harrell is capable of as an NFL QB

the main knock on him was him being a system QB. Well, Peyton Manning is most definitely a system QB and no one ever gives him $H!T for it.

Harrell would be good in a pinch. We don’t know what he’s capable of in the Packer offense.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 13, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t know, I think he’ll need a few years to develop if he’s ever going to be something. He’s got a weak arm, and mostly just threw a lot of jailbreak screen/swing pass type stuff at Texas Tech. McCarthy’s offensive scheme seems to be heavy on going downfield and I don’t know if Harrell has the arm to do so at this point.

by packallday555 on Dec 13, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Weak-armed QBs don't do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEKjlqayLMA

I understand that’s Michael Crabtree, but still. That’s one heck of a pass.

Scouts considered Tom Brady to be skinny and have a weak arm. See how well that worked out? I’m not suggesting Graham Harrell is the next Tom Brady (as awesome as that would be) but for all we know, he could be.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 13, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He could be but then again, I think Brady is more the exception than the rule. Generally, guys with weaker arms struggle to succeed.

by packallday555 on Dec 13, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

In Favre’s last year, and for much of Rodger’s first season, McCarthy seemed to favor a lot of those quick slants. We don’t seem to be doing those as often now (Maybe I’m completely wrong on that one, if so, just tell me :P).

I think going back to that sort of gameplan could have some success with the backups, as long as you really work on the timing during the week.

by Packers3485 on Dec 13, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish we’d go back to that more with Rodgers actually. Everything seems so deep oriented to me.

by packallday555 on Dec 13, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Tend to agree with this
I think he’ll need a few years to develop if he’s ever going to be something.

He hasn’t been through McCarthy’s QB school, which is held before the draft each offseason, even once yet.

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by NorthStarr on Dec 16, 2010 3:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Sort of
Damning with faint praise?

Coming off the bench cold with an awful offensive line, Flynn managed to get the Packers in scoring position on 3 of 6 drives. He had a killer turnover, but a backup is almost required to have one turnover. Flynn’s OK, and Harrell can be OK too.

by Brandon on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I get the feeling Rodgers is going to play, even if it isn't the best choice for his health.

I’m thinking he’s going to pass those tests, and the decision will be left up to him. And I think he’s going to want to play, regardless of what may be the best decision for his future.

The testing procedures were made to limit this sort of behavior, but I have to think that, even if he gets cleared, it will still probably be more dangerous this week than next. But then again, with the tests in place, there isn’t much else you can do to protect the players from themselves. If he can pass the tests, that’s really all you can do before leaving it in his hands.

by Packers3485 on Dec 13, 2010 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

BTW

Favre is INACTIVE tonight.

The streaks of Andre Miller and Brett Favre, snapped in the same calendar year. The end of Miller’s streak was just stupid, though.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 13, 2010 5:30 PM CST reply actions  

Knowing you,

I’m guessing Miller must be a basketball player. :)
Never heard of him, myself, though.

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by NorthStarr on Dec 16, 2010 3:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Good guess.

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by Omaha Sun on Dec 16, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

dispair setting in

Without Rogers we have no ligitimate shot of winning. I"ve been a packer fan since I was like 5, and live in new NY so get to argue with Giant and Jet fans every day, but realistically, if he can’t go, we are probably done.

If Rogers plays and risks his health, I hope it angers TT enough to fire MM. If Rogers doesn’t play and we look horrible the next 3 games, I hope its enough to cost MM his job. I’m tired of watching our team be sluggish at the start of games, throwing deep on 4th & 1 and just a plethor of other dumb mistakes.

and for hermit crab, sign Jenkins, let old man Pickett walk. Probably wont get a great deal and come back here for cheaper to stay in a system he knows.

by Kazraan on Dec 13, 2010 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

Minus 1

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by NorthStarr on Dec 16, 2010 3:59 AM CST up reply actions  

It would be unwise to start AR in Boston

I have a feeling that we are a longshot to win this game even if he had Rodgers healthy and 100 percent. Let’s throw the white flag on this one and concentrate on the last two home games. We win those, we have a much better chance of making the playoffs.

As much as it pains me to admit, let’s just do the smart thing here. Give AR an extra week to get healthy for the playoff push. MM, on the other hand, can use this week to learn how to properly call a game from the master himself. Cause yesterday, when coaching could have made a big difference and gave us a crucial W, it didn’t again. And I’m sick and tired of it

by Rodgers_for_MVP on Dec 13, 2010 5:34 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Just saw a thing on ESPN with McCarthy where he was talking as if he would consider that, even if he does pass all the necessary tests. Talking about how they “need to do the smart thing.”

Though I wouldn’t want to be the person trying to force Aaron Rodgers to stay on the sideline if he passes those tests and wants to get out there. That is why I think he will end up playing, provided he does look good in all the evaluation procedures.

by Packers3485 on Dec 13, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree completely.

Since it’s his 2nd concussion this year I’d like the see them rest him no matter what.

by Zundar on Dec 13, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd.

With his second concussion, I’d almost want to sit him the rest of the year and get him ready for next season. Hopefully by then we’ll have a real offensive line and a real running back.

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by Mardiros Efendi on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I might be on board with this decision. Its unlikely we win…on the road…against a team that is just dismantlement people right now. Maybe Bill will take it easy on us if we put up the white flag! hahahaha don’t worry, I know better.

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by TrevorR on Dec 14, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I remember back in 08 we used to play a lot more efficient on offense, because we threw a lot of short passes that were like extended runs. It was just our defense kept giving up points at the ed of games and we lost. This year is the opposite, our defense is holding teams down to 14 ppg, yet our offense is barely scoring any points. When is MM gonna wake up n finally go back to our true form on offense? I meanhe was doing the same thing last year, until Jennings finally stepped up and complained about the play calling, then MM finally started going back to the short passes. Does this guy not learn from his mistakes, or is he just too hard headed?

by Katsuya89 on Dec 13, 2010 11:08 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

EXACTLY!!!!!!

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by TrevorR on Dec 14, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Trevor, you and I have been wondering this forever haha!

by packallday555 on Dec 14, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

no stinkin doubt. sigh…

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by TrevorR on Dec 15, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Just not our year

That’s pretty much it.

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by berselius on Dec 14, 2010 7:24 AM CST reply actions  

oh geez…we are already screwed if Flynn is out there again…you put Harrell in and this offense is TOAST!!!

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by TrevorR on Dec 14, 2010 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Geez, guys. Let’s just tank the last three games while we’re at it … and get as high of a draft pick as possible, to help our chances in 2012 or 2013!

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by NorthStarr on Dec 16, 2010 4:06 AM CST reply actions  

Sarcasm off

for those of you who didn’t get it!

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by NorthStarr on Dec 16, 2010 4:08 AM CST up reply actions  

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