Sunday Open Thread - Late Afternoon
by Brandon on Dec 19, 2010 2:45 PM CST
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The only late NFC game is the Falcons at the Seahawks. While the Falcons have a two game cushion for the top seed, they're only one game ahead of the Saints for the division title. Because of the NFC West wasteland, the Seahawks are still in the playoff race. It's an important game for both teams.
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In first place the whole damn season...
And my team goes down thanks to Aaron Rodgers and TO. Way to go, guys.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
ESPN was reporting that Rodgers may play
Take that with as big a grain of salt as you can find
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Really?
Our love is all of God's money.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Back in Richmond after a horrific stint in Fresno.
Yeah, they mentioned something about it in the early-morning SC
I’m not convinced, but they did say it.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
McCarthy ought to be fired if Rodgers plays tonight
I should have drafted a different QB, though, seeing as how Aaron likes to take hits…
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
If the Giants blow a 24-3 lead, I would be pretty amused. Pretty dispiriting for them going into the big game next week too.
Our love is all of God's money.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Back in Richmond after a horrific stint in Fresno.
They blew it
Still a minute left, but they’ve gotta feel like crap right about now
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
...and they just did. 31-31. Wow.
Our love is all of God's money.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Back in Richmond after a horrific stint in Fresno.
Ohhh
Now I get the strings of lights on the side of the scoreboard – they represent time-outs. Clever, Fox.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Seems like Philly is doing whatever it can...
To keep DeSean Jackson out of the end zone. They’re doing a better job of it than the Giants defense.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
OMFG
Jackson returns the punt FTW
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Wait, did that just happen?
Our love is all of God's money.
Adopted Giant: Daryl "Dealio" Maday - Back in Richmond after a horrific stint in Fresno.
Well, thank fuck for that!
My fantasy team might just stand a chance thanks to that TD. Unless Adrian Peterson just goes off tomorrow night, then it becomes moot.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Sorry to do this
but I hope AD goes off all night long tomorrow
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 19, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
HOLYCRAPHOLYCRAPHOLYCRAP
Went from being the worst possible outcome for the morning games, to “Holy shit, how did they just do that!” Four touchdowns in under 8 minutes. Saving Andy Reid’s ass for that ridiculous non-challenge
By the way, on that challenge – anyone who criticizes McCarthy’s challenges – look at that one. Good God, I was ready to throw the remote through the TV.
And with the Detroit win, Green Bay will still be in control of their playoff destiny even with a loss tonight.
This has just been perfect!
I'm 2 for 2
on outrageous football requests so far today… just need Us and Minny to win to pull off the 4some
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 19, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not as up to date on playoff scenarious..
The Giants loss helped the Pack? Is that because of conference records? I would have thought an Eagle loss would have been btter since Pack already beat them..anyone?
Sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.
I think it helps b/c now if the Packers beat the Giants next week..
They will be tied record wise and will own the tie breaker.. In this case they control there own destiny more than hoping for a Eagles loss.
Go Pack Go!!
We play the Giants next week
so we can essentially gain 2 games on them by winning them since it gives us a win and them a loss plus gives us the tie breaker over them
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 19, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Well, no matter what we have to beat the Giants
And if Tampa Bay ends up at 10-6 (which seems less likely now), we need the Giants tied with us there. (Due to the tiebreakers they’d have to use – way too complicated for me to understand). If it was just us and TB, or Tampa, Green Bay, and Philly at 10-6, we would not get the wild card.
And with both those losses, it is completely in our hands now. No matter what anyone else does, if Green Bay wins those last two games, they are in.
cool..
thanks..I am just worried about that Giants game next week..blowing a loss like that at home though could have a lingering effect on the Giants too..
Sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.
Thats the thing
all the scenarios are obsolete if we don’t take care of our own stuff
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 19, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
So I'm stuck with the Rexes vs. the Rapists
What are y’all getting?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I've also got
The New York Knee Trippers vs. The Rapist
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 19, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
is this right?
No matter what happens tonight, we win the last two and we’re in? And if MN wins, and we win the last two (regardless of the most likely loss tonight) we win the north? Not sure, any help with this…
I believe so – because the Bears conference record would be worse with a loss to Minnesota, which I believe would be the tiebreaker we’d have to use at that point.
The Bears currently have 3 conference losses, the Packers four
If Minnesota wins tomorrow, that would tie us up in that tiebreaker. So wins in the last two games would give the Packers the win with best conference record.
Joe Webb at QB? Against Chicago?
Highly unlikely Minnesota wins.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Chicago might rest their starters in anticipation of an easy victory...
They have thrown away games before.
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
They *are* still being coached by Lovie
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Don't get me wrong
I want them to win too, but they’re going to have a field day w/ the rookie.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
If the team that showed up last week against New England show up tomorrow
The Vikings would have a shot with Hank Baskett at QB.
They might even have a shot with Brett Favre at QB!
Oh wait.
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Highly unlikely he has more than 20 pass attempts
Lots and lots of AP tomorrow night. Webb might even be tested as a lead blocker.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That's what I'm seeing
A loss tonight and wins over the Giants and Bears puts us in and vs. the Bears in a wild-card game. The same scenario, with Chicago losing tomorrow night means we get home-field advantage in that wild-card game. The Bears wouldn’t even have to travel back to Chicago.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
OUTSTANDING
Dare I say, “go vikings” (arh, i think i just threw up in my mouth after saying those words)
I never expected that to happen
but DeSean Jackson, you are incredible.
This day set up to be the perfect storm.
Start talking negatively, guys ;-D
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions
...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The eyes are practically identical
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Rodgers is definitely OUT.
So now we have to pray for 2007 miracles from Matt Flynn…right?
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:42 PM CST reply actions
I didn't say I believed 'em
Just that they said it.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
They said it
they were wrong.
So I bequeath Clutch16…a boot to the head!
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don't want a boot to the head!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Will music do instead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUS18d9nZ_E
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'm coverin' up my head!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
it's ok to be high once in a while
Sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.
by White92 on Dec 19, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Try telling that to my sponsor
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Mark Sanchez thought he was Mike Vick for a second there
Mark Sanchez was WRONG!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Tebow TD to Lloyd.
(sigh)
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:46 PM CST reply actions
yea if we beat the giants next week we'll have the tie breaker
Saints only 11/2 games ahead of us with 3 games to go for us, just saying anything can happen.
Remaining schedules
Tampa 8-6 vs Seattle, at New Orleans
Giants 9-5 at Green Bay, at Washington
Green Bay 8-5 at New England, vs Giants, vs Chicago
Chicago 9-4 at Minnesota, vs Jets, at Green bay
New Orleans 10-4 at Atlanta, vs Tampa Bay
Hell look what happened today. The Giants, Bears, and Tampa look like the best bets.
That loss to Detroit is really stinging right now
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
At least Detroit took out Tampa.
Exposing the Buccaneers for not being a worthwhile threat.
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
Another interesting thing...
If we beat NE and CHI loses tomorrow night than all will be necessary is beating the bears in Week 17.
Obviously I’d like a win tonight, but I think it’s pretty clear that the last two games are much more important because of tiebreakers and all. Hopefully ARod can get healthy by next Sunday afternoon, any indication of whether this is possible?
by redraidercominatya on Dec 19, 2010 4:01 PM CST reply actions
He flew with the team to NE
So he was cleared for at least that, which is a positive sign.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
He's listed as out
it’s not happening tonight, but Rodgers should be back next week.
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
I've been out of touch.
How much did the Eagles win hurt GB? Seems to me that if they beat the Giants (which they’d have to do anyway), it’s basically a push. Giants are one game ahead still if we lose tonight, but we pass them (on tie-breakers) if we win next week.
And with the Lions winning, we’re still tied with Tampa even with a loss tonight (which to appears to be inevitable). All in all, not a bad afternoon unless I’m missing something. It’d be nice if Minnesota beats Chicago, but that’s not going to happen. Otherwise it looks to me like the NFC did a nice job of rendering a likely GB loss tonight nearly a moot point (not quite, but close).
Am I wrong? What am I missing?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 19, 2010 4:13 PM CST reply actions
You've got the high points covered
Detroit did us a huge favor this week.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You're missing the tie-breaker scenarios with Tampa
(For this post, I am working under the assumption that the Packers lose tonight, then win the last two games)
If both the Packers and Bucs end the season at 10-6, Green Bay does not get the wild card. If Green Bay, Philly, and Tampa Bay end up at 10-6, Green Bay does not get the wild card (I forget if it is the Eagles or Bucs in this scenario). If Green Bay, Tampa Bay, and the Giants end up at 10-6, Green Bay gets the wild card. Try it out on the ESPN Playoff Machine. The deciding tie-breaker seems to be “Strength of Schedule.”
So the Giants loss here is the best thing that could happen to us (assuming that they don’t blow it in Week 17 and lose to the Redskins to drop to 9-7).
Long story short, a Giants win today would have meant that the Packers would have needed serious help over the last two weeks. Now, it is entirely in the Packers hands. Win the last two and you’re in, lose one of them and you’re out.
Actually, my suggestion to "try it out" on the Playoff Machine is useless now.
Because, with the loss to Detroit, Tampa can’t beat us out for the spot unless they win out and the Packers lose two of these last three. But before that game, if you gave them the win over Detroit and had them lose to New Orleans at the end, they would get in under the scenarios I listed in the post above.
And another mistake I made
the tiebreaker would have been “Strength of Victory”, not “strength of schedule”
Margin of Victory, right?
Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
You'll notice NCAA has no letter for the incompetence within...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 19, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
No, it had something to do with the records of the teams you beat?
I think that’s what it was. And then the next tiebreaker after that is the records of all the teams you played, not just the ones you beat.
Yeah, just found a definition
“part of the NFL’s tiebreaking procedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.
I think in the math for that one playoff percentage site...
It factors in that we already beat the Eagles and have not yet played the Giants.
The tie-breaker vs. Tampa will be huge now that they lost. They have two conference matchups coming, and I don’t think they can beat the Saints.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 19, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
True...
… but if we lose to the Giants we were probably screwed anyway.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 19, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
Need to win the last 2 out of 3 to have a chance. Beating the Giants and the Bears would likely increase those chances. Those two games are of more importance than this game tonight. I mean if we win tonight, it will be a nice boost.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 19, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
I've been going over every possible scenario on the playoff machine
Unless they have something messed up in their calculations for tiebreakers (and I haven’t seen anything so far), it’s not simply a “chance” if we win the last two. If we can beat the Giants and Bears, we are in, no question. That Tampa Bay loss seems to have erased any chance that they could win the tiebreaker at 10-6. And other than Tampa, the only other team in contention for that wild-card spot is New York.
Green Bay no longer needs any help to get into the playoffs. It is completely in their hands now. Win those two, and you are in. The only question left at that point would be which seed.
That's what JSOnline is saying too...
… it makes sense. We got very, very lucky today with the Lions/Bucs game. The Lions giveth and the Lions taketh away.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 19, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
If you know the name of the robot in my display pic...
YOU ARE AWESOME!
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Mystery science theater 3000
I don’t know the name, but is it one from MST3K, one of the funniest shows ever?
That was the other one, yeah
It’s Tom Servo! lol
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Here are the official NFL tiebreakers for non-division "clubs"
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
0. Best net touchdowns in all games.
1. Coin toss.
And yes, it goes back to 0 and 1 on the website, heh.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Sucks to be the Jacksonville Jaguars
They had a chance to clinch the AFC South, and now they’re behind Indy!
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
It *always* sucks to be the Jacksonville Jaguars
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Crazy wild card scenario
If:
a) Green Bay loses to New England, and wins the last two;
b) The Giants beat the Redskins in Week 17; and,
c) New Orleans loses their last two games (at Atlanta, home vs Tampa Bay) while Tampa wins in Week 16 (at home vs. Seattle)
New Orleans would be out of the playoffs. Under this scenario, the Packers, Giants, Bucs and Saints would all be at 10-6, and New Orleans would be eliminated in the first round of tie-breakers because they would have a worse record than Tampa Bay against common opponents. Green Bay would be the 5th seed, and the Giants would beat out Tampa for the 6th.
I wonder how many people, before the noon games, could have imagined a possible (and not all that unreasonable) scenario where the Saints would be out of the playoffs. Crazy.
That hit was not a 15-yard penalty.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 19, 2010 5:03 PM CST reply actions
It was a BS penalty
The WR was coming down into him. That hit is on Sanchez, not the secondary.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Ugh, Sanchez rush TD
17-17, 5:14 3rd qtr.
Frickin’ Pittsburgh defense…
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
That is so crazy...
A Packers win over the Giants next week gets them into the 6-slot.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Did he do the Safety Dance?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
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