Packers Game Ball Recap: Packers Roll Giants, 45-17
While I thought this big score was possible for the Green Bay Packers, I expected the Giants would avoid turnovers. Instead they coughed it up six times. And I expected a lot more fight from the Giants defense that was rolled by the Packers offense. Both teams were mediocre on special teams, and the Packers defense allowed some big pass plays, but overall the Packers were in control for nearly the entire game.
I'm having a hard time picking players for this week's poll. Even guys who had some bad plays (WR Jordy Nelson's fumble, CB Tramon Williams's long touchdown allowed to WR Mario Manningham) made up for it with some big positive plays of their own. Who stood out this week in your eyes? Here's who I went with.
QB Aaron Rodgers had time to throw and the Giants secondary seemed to be on their heels after Nelson torched them for an 80 yard touchdown reception. The result: 404 passing yards, 4 touchdowns, and no interceptions. FB John Kuhn only had 29 yards of total offense, but he scored three touchdowns. Of all the great players on defense, I went with LB Clay Matthews because he forced a fumble and was in the backfield for most of the game. FS Nick Collins had two pass defenses and an interception, but he seemed to play a big part in preventing the long plays after the two long touchdown passes.
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Agree with you Brandon.
Rodgers was the difference today. He played probably his best game all season.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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GO BADGERS! WIN THE ROSE BOWL!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 7:03 PM CST reply actions
Rodgers by far.
The guy was money. He had a big game to win and won it. He made some redunkulous plays.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 26, 2010 7:04 PM CST reply actions
A-Rodg by a landslide.....
Defense was killer, but Rodgers was on it all night… and in a new helmet (not that has anything to do with the price of cheese in France) he killed the #2 pass defense and almost ruined their playoff hopes (and maybe Coughlin’s job).
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
ROFL at my Dish Network guide.
(08:15) NFL: Vikings vs Eagles
That’s what it says. Apparently, NBC is behind the times.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GO BADGERS! WIN THE ROSE BOWL!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 7:08 PM CST reply actions
Packers destroy Giants 45-17 to keep playoff hopes alive.
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 26, 2010 7:09 PM CST reply actions
Good point
The Giants’ defensive line is very tough to beat.
Love how so many analysts and such were even picking the Giants for this game, based on the fact that they would win the battle in the trenches and Rodgers would have a hard time against their defense.
The Packers thrive on making people eat crow.
three straight weeks the Packers have surprised
against the Lions (negatively), against the Pats (positively) and now, positively with a win against the Giants. Of course, I did see a couple of picks of the Packers based on the trauma the Giants went through against the Eagles last week. It did look like they were still hung over from that loss.
I'm expecting 100% improvement from the Lions this season.
Hungover
If they were hungover thats on the HC to get them re-focused! Kinda like McCarthy did for the Pack today!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
with you on that
O game-plan and performance was intelligent and excellent this week.
Good job McCarthy, please keep proving me wrong.
by docg on Dec 27, 2010 12:41 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd, for taking that attitude.
So-o-o much better than the guys some of us used to argue with, who always sounded as if they would rather see the Packers lose, just so they could be proven right about Mr. Thompson — instead of hoping they would be proven wrong about him, since it would mean that the Packers were winning!
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Good observation. Never really looked at it like that...
but it does make sense in a way.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 27, 2010 1:52 AM CST up reply actions
It's one thing
if that loss sticks in their craw a bit but if they were really all that good, they should’ve kept this game at least somewhat competitive. It was only close for a few minutes in the second quarter. The whole game was all Packers, all the way.
We need to bring this same sort of fire next week against Chicago, who will have a first round bye and the chance to knock their old rivals out of the playoffs on the line. This isn’t even close to 2006, because Chicago had long wrapped up their position and Green Bay had nothing to play for. There’s a lot at stake for both teams this time around.
It was a 7 point game at half
If the Giants had brought a little stickum for their gloves, the game isn’t nearly as one sided. The Giants players just weren’t mentally there it seemed, but then again, turnovers have been their downfall all season.
I'm expecting 100% improvement from the Lions this season.
It wasn't as close as it looked at half time
The only reason the Giants were still in it at that point was two big plays that happened because of corners losing their footing. Aside from those two fluky plays, they got dominated the entire half
What exactly is at stake?
Can’t do the math in my head, what are the scenarios for the Packers next week? Is it a win and they’re in?
And the Bears, can they still get home field throughout if Atlanta wins tomorrow? Or is it a matte of staying ahead of Philly for the 2nd seed? Funny to think that Minnesota can still influence the playoff chase when they’re on the verge of a Battle to Escape The Basement with the Lions next week.
I’m thinking playoff positioning
I'm expecting 100% improvement from the Lions this season.
the scenarios
Basically, if the Pack win they are in.
If they lose and TB and NY lose then they are in.
So right now it’s down to us taking care of business. I think they can do that, especially with how leaky the Bears D has been the last couple weeks.
by PackApologist on Dec 26, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Although it is amazing how the Bears are getting – stop me if you’ve heard this before – another break – by the Vikings/Eagles game getting moved to Tuesday. With the Eagles then only having 5 days to get ready for the Cowboys, it is plausible (but not likely) that Dallas pulls the upset, especially when you consider that Dallas played on Christmas night.
But yes, it would be nice to see the Pack knock the Bears out of the 2 seed, and then beat them at Soldier Field one week later.
I would prefer
Instead of that I would like to see the Packers win next week and the Saints lose Monday and next week to get the number 5 seat. That way we pull either the Rams or the Seahawks in the first game.
by PackApologist on Dec 26, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
So that basically boils down to Green Bay needing
to beat the Bears one week from today, and for the Bucs to go into the SuperDome and win.
Actually, playing with the scenarios,
a Giants win against the Redskins would give the Packers the 5 seed as well.
That seems a lot more likely than Tampa beating the Saints at the Dome.
The Saints need to loose the next two
for the packers to have any chance of getting the 5 seed. If the Saints win one more game they have 11 wins and lock up the 5th seed. It doesn’t really matter what NY does next week unless the Pack lose to the bears.
Yeah, you're right
It looks like the 6 seed and re-match in Chicago in two weeks are the most likely scenarios.
I think New Orleans loses tomorrow, but not against Tampa. But, New Orleans did lose home games against Dallas and Tampa last year, and neither of those teams sniffed the playoffs, so you never know.
yeah, I don't think the Saints lose next week
It should be a good game though. Tampa has played tough all year, but they have yet to beat a team with a winning record. I think their strength of victory is something like.290!
They're going to look back at
losing to the Lions in the same fashion we are.
Dallas was in the 2nd round last year
This year, not so much.
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Bears will win a tiebreaker vs Philly
so they need the game in GB if they want the #2..otherwise it’ll be a home and home series..Gb vs Chi
Sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.
im rooting super hard for the lions to take third lol
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by blackoutsox on Dec 26, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah me too
except in coming years I think we’ll have more to fear from the Lions than the Vikings. The former are on the rise and the latter in decline.
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 26, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Coming years? Yes.
This season, however, I want the Vikings to finish in last.
And, so there can be no argument about [tie-breakers and such], I want them to lose to the Beagles Tuesday night, so that they go into next week’s game at Detroit with the same record as the Lions.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
Beautiful game..
Bring on duh Bears! I’ll be there, can’t wait!
Sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.
Luckyyyy!
"Vince Wilfork's blood type is penne arrabiata"
by Shamalamadingdong on Dec 26, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
All I want for Christmas..
Is back to back wins vs. the Morons of the Midway
Sometimes nothin is a real cool hand.
Nope…honestly, I don’t think he’s even in the running at this point.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
Who is in the running at this point?
Omaha's Christmas List:
Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).
The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.
A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.
Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.
Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.
Brady.
Couple notches down…Vick
Then a slew of guys quite a few levels down from there. Maybe CM3 is in this group, but I don’t know if he’s done enough lately to really be in those talks. Its so rare as it is for a defensive player to even be mentioned.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
...For DPOY?
I think it’s rather common that defensive players are mentioned for that award.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
by GoGregGo on Dec 28, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's funny. :D
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I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
Here are the stats for potential DPOYs
My criteria included a minimum of 50 tackles, 10 sacks + 2 forced fumbles (team record in parenthesis; players on sub-.500 teams were excluded, for obvious reasons):
James Harrison, PIT (11-4): 94 tackles, 11 sacks, 6 forced fumbles
Clay Matthews III, GB (9-6): 58 tackles, 12.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles
Terrell Suggs, BAL (11-4): 65 tackles, 11 sacks, 2 forced fumbles
Justin Tuck, NYG (9-6): 74 tackles, 11 sacks, 6 forced fumbles
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
Raji
I’m going with a write-in candidate for a game ball and that’s BJ Raji. He was collapsing the pocket all day, just pushing the NY midline back. That helped control the vaunted Giant running game and put the game in the wrong Manning’s hands. Game ball, Raji!
Agree
He had a good game. He was pushing his man back, into Manning. He’s been impressive the past 2 games.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Dec 26, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
That was my thought too
Dude played hard for us w/ his 4 picks
Fire Slocum
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:34 AM CST up reply actions
Nice.
He definitely played well for us.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 27, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe so, but,
I would vote for the guys who picked over him for throwing ’em.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
* the guys who picked him
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
There was a lot of good play, but
Rodgers doing what he did coming back after a concussion makes this vote a no brainer. I can’t believe there were “analysts” suggesting that Rodgers should not play in this game because it was too risky.
Ben
it’s ALWAYS risky coming back from a concussion, that’s why the 2nd and 3rd ones come easier.
by bigbill992001 on Dec 27, 2010 2:45 AM CST up reply actions
Sure, I get that
but the NFL has the most stringent policy on concussions that they have ever had. So, do you trust the process and play the guy when he conforms to the policy or do you sit him? Rodgers at least demonstrated that his head was right for that game. You could sit him just to be safe, but for those that thought he should sit I ask this question: When would be the right time for him to play again?
Rodgers, but this was a complete team effort
one of the best overall games this year for the team, really a great game all around
"I would say my biggest flaw, my Achilles heel is my tireless work ethic"-Kenny Powers
So per Seifert,
next week’s game has been shifted to 4:15. I don’t know the rules for blackouts so I’m worried I might not get the game next week here in the D.C. area. The skins game is on at 1 but I’m not sure if FOX has the double header next week. Anyone know what the deal will be?
All is vanity.
The NFL in week seventeen allows
both CBS and FOX to air doubleheaders in every market.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
That doesn't mean us guys in the DC market
will be able to see the game. FOX has also moved the Giants-Redskins game to a 4:15 kick, and FOX has also chosen to move Bears-Packers to a 4:15 kick.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Damn you FOX!
No one wants to see the Giants-Redskins! Move that back to 1:00 so I can see the Packers! Please?
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
FOX just doesn't want
the Packers playing meaningless football at their prime slot.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Unfortunately, that's of little consolation to me :-P
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
They don't have a week 17 game?
That seems pretty short-sighted.
maybe just for this reason...so they can flex a potential play-in game
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
That is exactly why they did it.
To allow NBC their choice of any game.
It was deliberate.
I read that, somewhere, earlier in the season.
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The glass is still more than half-full!
Yep, pretty much what Coop said.
They did it so they could pick the game they wanted to have. It makes since to me, and I hope they pick the bears-packers game; otherwise, I might not be able to watch it on TV.
Rams-Seahawks is the SNF game next week
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 26, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Are you serious?
Of all the games, they picked that one?
WTH?
Seriously?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
The Week 17 St. Louis at Seattle game on Sunday, January 2 will be played at 8:20 PM ET on NBC, the Jacksonville at Houston and Tennessee at Indianapolis games will move to 4:15 PM ET on CBS and the Chicago at Green Bay, Dallas at Philadelphia and New York Giants at Washington games will move to 4:15 PM ET on FOX, the NFL announced Sunday.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 26, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
SMH.
I can think of many better games to put on primetime.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Bucs-Saints immediately comes to mind
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Dec 26, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
I agree w/ the call to put the Ram Seahawk game on SNF
It’s a straight up winner takes the division game and goes to the playoffs… loser goes home scernario… while our game has that feel… there are still ways we can “back into” the playoffs w/ a loss
Fire Slocum
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:38 AM CST up reply actions
Has playoff implications.
There you go.
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Right. It is winner-take-all, for the NFC Worst Division title.
Personally, I’m pulling for St. Louis, so the whining about the NFL’s playoff system can be laid to rest for at least another year or two.
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The glass is still more than half-full!
I hope they pick up this game.
Like levnclf above, I’m in the DC area too, and I pretty sure the game would be a blackout here because the Skins are playing at home.
Pack/Bears
watch it online @ P2P4U.net
by bigbill992001 on Dec 27, 2010 2:49 AM CST up reply actions
I plan on watching it at the Peanut Farm,
the sports bar that I go to when I can.
And next week, fn_cold_ak,
I will be there (so, I won’t be on the live game thread, ladies and gents, and others). ;)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I think they've picked up that NFC west game
Rams/Seahawks for prometime
Protection
I believe each network (CBS, FOX) can protect a preferred game rather than give their best game of the week to a rival network (NBC.) Fox probably protected the Bears-Packers game as their most attractive NFC matchup and moved it to their national double header game, forcing NBC to take something else. Wouldn’t the Rams – Seahawks game for the NFC West title be riveting TV?
FWIW, even though we know when the game will be now,
there is no flex protection week 17.
All is vanity.
I'm not real worried about Chicago
I see them as a solid team who is playing well above expectations due to some lucky breaks. Their vaunted defense looked pretty average against the Jets today.
The Bears are a good team,
but they are also the healthiest team in the NFL…that usually breeds victories
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
Actually despite their suspect OL
it looks like their balanced offense is playing a lot better. Cutler looked pretty tough against a VG Jets pass D today with Forte running well. If anything worries me about next week it’s this.
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 26, 2010 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
da bares
have caught a lot of teams on the lowdown this yr. It’s amazing, actually. Not that they aren’t playing pretty good this yr.
by bigbill992001 on Dec 27, 2010 2:51 AM CST up reply actions
That "very good" Jets defense has been exposed by just about everyone in the past several weeks
The loss of Wisconsin-alum Jim Leonhard really seems to have hurt them. He was the guy who made all the calls in the secondary. Ever since he went down, that defense has really sucked.
Plus, they have always been pretty overrated. Good run defense, good (but not great – Revis is definitely WAY overrated) corners, and that’s about it. They have absolutely no pass rush. They’re a good defense, but at this point, they are far from “very good.” Since the Packers win over them, the Jets have given up the following totals: 20 points, 20 points, 27 points, 10 points, 45 points, 10 points, 17 points, and 38 tonight. (The 10 point games were against Cincinnati and their ugly loss to Miami.)
overrated
Revis is definitely WAY overrated
More so by Son-of-Buddy, than by anyone else, I think. :)
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The glass is still more than half-full!
ya know…they could probably say the same thing with Woodson. Neither is playing to the level they did last year. Revis is still a stud corner.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
WTH is with Woodson's shoes?
It seems like he loses his footing once or twice a game.
Omaha's Christmas List:
Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).
The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.
A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.
Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.
Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.
Honestly with what we did against NE's D, and the Giant's D, no one's defense worries me.
What worries me is our propensity to beat ourselves this year… that is about it…
^ This ^
Exactly how I feel, too.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GO BADGERS! WIN THE ROSE BOWL!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Another happy note...
It seems as if we have finally gotten back to dominating at home, in the last two seasons we are 12-3 at home.
Home Field...
Very happy to see the Pack start dominating at home again! I have to wonder how much Favre not wanting to play in cold weather anymore had to do w/ previous years. I might be off track, but thats a likely reason.
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Yeah.
It seemed to me that the Packers tended to fizzle out in cold weather during his last few years here.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GO BADGERS! WIN THE ROSE BOWL!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Especially in home playoff games,
starting with the Falcons.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
Didn't just wonder.
I thought it was pretty obvious.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
When we lost that game to Vick and the Falcons,
it could have been just a fluke.
After losing to Mini, less so,
Then, during the 2007 Championship game, Bertt looked so-o-o much like he wanted to be anywhere else!
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
Well, in the second half
He was riled up for the first couple of quarters, but the fire was definitiely out when they came back after the half. Maybe he should have hung out with the fans in the stands for halftime instead of getting all warm and cozy in the locker room. Who knows? He might have picked up some cute girl’s cell phone number.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I felt we started losing homefield advantage
as soon as we did the renovations to Lambeau personally
Fire Slocum
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:39 AM CST up reply actions
This sounds good,
Lots of Giants fans in my hometown, as well as throughout my area. Should I or should I not give them some grief about this?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 9:22 PM CST reply actions
Anyone know
where I can watch a replay of the game online?
53 Bears, 1 Cup
by I voted for Kodos on Dec 26, 2010 9:23 PM CST reply actions
What, Brandon Jackson and his 2.2yd/carry aren't on the list?
Or Nance and his 3.6?
I was on the road for the first half and part of the third quarter. After virtually every Jackson run, Larry McCarren (who knows a little about this sort of thing) would mention that Jackson could have gotten more yards if he’d run where the hole actually developed instead of where the hole was supposed to be. I’m no expert, but my understanding has always been that the zone blocking scheme’s primary advantages were that it cut off back side pursuit and it permitted the RB to make 1 cut and hit the hole?
I know this Oline doesn’t run block very well, but I’m telling you, there are yards to be made out there, and Jackson leaves them on the field almost every time he touches the ball. Nance is only marginally better.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 26, 2010 9:24 PM CST reply actions
i doubt nance is better at all
every time I see him, he is tackled for no gain
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
nance > jackson
He at least has the balls to lower a shoulder and whenever I see him run, it’s usually for around 3-4 yards.
And at this point, I will take that!
by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 27, 2010 2:02 AM CST up reply actions
> Jackson? Really?
How good is he at catching passes in the flat?
How well does he pick up the blitzes, thus helping to keep Rodgers in the game?
When it comes to picking up blitzes, damned few are > Jackson.
And, on basic runs, Jackson has been known, on occasion, to get through the hole and into the secondary.
Maybe not as much as you’d like, but he does do it!
Looking at the whole package, I’d say that Jackson > Dmitri.
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Agreed
Jackson is very good at coming out of the backfield and catching the ball/blocking on 3rd down.
He’s just not good at finding/hitting holes… I really hope he doesn’t become our Chester Taylor where we let him walk and then realize what we lost w/ him after the fact
Fire Slocum
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:41 AM CST up reply actions
I'll agree that as a package Jackson > Nance
But if you asked me who I wanted to run the ball between the tackles, I’d definitely chose Nance.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
Jackson did a terrific job in blitz pick-up this week
There was at least one play in the second quarter where he single-handedly saved Rodgers’s bacon. LB blitz from the right side – BJax engaged and stayed that way. It was a thing of beauty.
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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
woaaah!
sorrrrry… i didn’t make my point clear enough. what I meant was, nance is a better runner than jackson(hits the hole, pushes people forward, not afraid to bounce it outside)
i agree jackson is a better reciever/blitz picker uper… maybe thats cuz nance hasn’t been given a chance as a 3rd down back?
by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 28, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
As a running back I’d totally agree. All Jackson does is stop and start, and then get tackled for a 3 yard gain.
He isn’t nearly as good all around as Jackson though.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 27, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
3-4 yards
whenever I see him run, it’s usually for around 3-4 yards.
And at this point, I will take that!
For the season, so far, Nance has 36 carries for 95 yards, for an average of 2.6 yards per carry.
Jackson has 183 carries for 684 yards, for an average of 3.7 yards per carry.
Nance’s longest carry has been for 11 yards, and he has not scored a touchdown!
Jackson’s longest carry has been for 71 yards, and he has scored 3 touchdown TDs.
Again, I will take Jackson, who is > Nance.
In fact, Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhn > Nance!
_
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
oh god, kuhn is a fullback
i would love to see his ypc
by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 28, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Kuhn's stats
Kuhn has 80 carries for 281 yards, for an average of 3.5 yards per carry.
His longest carry has been for 18 yards, and he has scored 4 touchdowns.
3.5 ypc and 4 TDs.
> Nance.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
see packallday555 arguement below... that about sums it up..
for the most part, nance gets the ball when we are trying to run out the clock and the other team is expecting it!
by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 29, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but the situation that those two receive their carries in are much different. A good chunk of Nance’s have come at the end of games in blow outs, when we’ve had Spitz and Lang in there as well. Jackson has gotten carries when the game is really on the line all season long.
Nance looked good against the Giants too me. He’s much more decisive than Brandon “I like to dance back and forth” Jackson, and more powerful too.
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by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
Jackson runs like he fears contact (probably because he can’t break any tackles, ever), and that causes him to hesitate and try to make too many moves instead of the quick cut and hitting the hole hard (haha). That’s what made Ryan Grant such a good back – he ran aggressively every time he got the ball, and consistently broke tackles. I still don’t know why people didn’t think they were going to miss him much when he went down.
I beg to differ
To me Jackson loves contact. Whenever there’s a choice between a hole and a wall of linemen. He runs into the linemen.
by alpo on Dec 26, 2010 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I disagree with this. Seems like he just does that anytime there isn’t a whole lot there (aka when we’re running behind Clifton-Colledge). He never breaks tackles, and he hesitates way too much. Like TSSC said above, he always leaves yards on the field.
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by packallday555 on Dec 27, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
why is that rec'd?
i guess we must watch the game differently, because I only see jackson wait behind the line than after a while, runs straight into a pile of linemen!
by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 28, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
I have absolutely no idea. Jackson does not like contact by any means. The dude rarely ever breaks tackles. I guess he does run into piles quite a bit but I think that has more to do with his horrible vision..
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by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
You guys do realize it was a joke, right?
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
Haha no, I thought he was being serious.
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by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
It's rec'd cause it's funny as hell
Bev Pear: A jar? Girls don't pee in jars.
Randy Pear: Oh, right. Sorry. Jason, we're gonna need a jar and a funnel.
Yes, this was a big mistake by Thompson.
We knew about this problem during the first game of the season. He had a responsibility to get a running back in here that could be productive. I’m not sure how hard he tried to truly solve this problem. Nance was never going to cut it, and Thompson should have known that.
Yeah…I still think he should have done something.
Lynch
Torain (FA at the time)
Choice (if he was avail)
etc.
Something should have been done, but it wasn’t I just hope we can muster enough of a running game to let our O do what it does.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
A criticism...
No running game. I vote for another try with Starks. Love Jackson out of the backfield, but he can’t do it. GO Starks!
Did it happen before the game today?
because he wasn’t on the injury report.
yeah, I knew he was inactive
I just hadn’t heard it was because of injury
I don't think he was hurt.
The team just felt that Nance gave them more at this point than did Starks.
Omaha's Christmas List:
Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).
The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.
A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.
Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.
Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.
I'm not sure Starks is 100% up w/
blocking assignments and techniques the way MM wants him to be… for as much crap as we give Stroh… he’s 100% right that with MM as our coach… RBs need to be able to block more then they need to be able to run
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by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:42 AM CST up reply actions
NO! He was wrong on that one. He argued that Starks would be ready to go shortly after he came back cause he’d had the playbook and had been around the team and stuff. That was his primary argument about why it doesn’t make sense to trade for someone like Lynch.
That said, he is right about Starks being a great talent with the ball…I was hoping he was and from what I’ve seen, he’s been everything we’ve been hoping he would be as a back. Hopefully he’ll be ready to challenge Grant next year!!
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
I'm saying that
hes right about our backs needing to be better blockers… While James had the playbook and time to learn… I don’t think he picked up the blocking as well as the coaches wanted him to and thats why he’s not playing much.
He’s good w/ the ball… but in the MM scheme, he won’t get to see the field much if he can’t block properly/pick up blitzes
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by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
why is hall even on the active roster?
wouldn’t it make more sense to have, Jackson/Starks/Nance at RB? And Kuhn/Johnson at FB?
Because based on the active roster the last couple weeks, MM is saying Hall is better to have out there than Starks. I don’t buy that.
by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 28, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
I think Hall is out there for ST purposes
Starks would not be.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
I get wanting to keep Jackson out on the field because he picks up blitzes and generally is very effective...
… at keeping Rodgers from getting killed. But you can’t win in the playoffs averaging 3yds a carry, and the only guy on the roster who’s got a chance of doing more than that against stout run defenses is Starks.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 26, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
This is exactly what Jackson is good for
He’s an excellent third down back because he picks up the blitz, is a good receiver for screens, and runs the draw well because he’s shifty. As an every down back, having to run between the tackles when the defense doesn’t assume a pass is coming, he’s borderline useless.
He can be shifty in space....
… which is one of the reasons why he’s effective in the passing game. But that often doesn’t show up in the draws they run to him.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 26, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe they should quit running draws to him then
Just sayin’…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I would say anything that doesn't take time to develop.
Just straight iso, lead, w/e!
by Bush League All Star on Dec 27, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Fixed it for you
Maybe they should quit running draws to him then
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by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
So word on the street is:
The Packers can still make the playoffs IF they were to lose to the Bears by having the Giants lose to the Redskins and the Saints beat Tampa
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
Losing complicates things
It’s win and you’re in for the Packers, basically (that’s also assuming the Giants and Bucs both win in week 17). I’ll be rooting for the Eagles the next two weeks; I mean, going through all this just to get Michael Vick in the 1st round? Uh, no thanks. Philly can take that 1st round bye. You all can play around w/ the ESPN playoff machine to see for yourselves.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
I think the term on that other sportsblog we both frequent is
“youdaman”
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 26, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
Great Win
The punch by Matthews was a thing of beauty. He’s a raging rhino out there. It quashed a potential Giants scoring drive and looked like it crushed their momentum.
I’m very excited for next week and hope we send a message to the Bears. Let’s demoralize them next week and show them their NFC North crown is a fluke. The true champ resides in Green Bay.
Okay, this didn't happen to the Giants, but I wish it had.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GO BADGERS! WIN THE ROSE BOWL!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 26, 2010 11:22 PM CST reply actions
Can we take at least partial credit for that?!
That would give us 2+, maybe 2 1/2 fired HC this year! LOL
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Nah, I think Singletary gets all the credit for that
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
I'm struggling with whether or not I'd rather have Philly lose to Minnesota
if they lose, the Bears are locked into the 2 seed, and they’ll probably rest their starters for part of the game next week, despite what Lovie Smith says about loving to beat the Packers.
I can’t decide whether or not I’d like to have an easier path into the playoffs for our injury depleted team, or if I’d rather knock the Bears out of the first-round-bye perch with our starters vs. their starters.
The good news is that we have basically been in position to win every single game we’ve lost. The bad news is that we still haven’t sewn up a playoff position. As usual, Mike McCarthy’s teams find a way to shoot themselves in the foot. Hard to explain, really.
"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews
by dishingoutdimes on Dec 26, 2010 11:41 PM CST reply actions
Okay, then.
As usual, Mike McCarthy’s teams find a way to shoot themselves in the foot.
FIRE MIKW McMORON!!!
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
Gotta love it. :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
stomp on their neck
I dont care who they play.
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Dec 27, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You WANT Michael Vick in the 1st round?
I’d rather face brent’s mini-me, Cutler, twice than that guy ONCE. lol
'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey
We shouldn't need the easy route
If we can’t beat Chicago, at home, when they have something to play for, then how can we expect to go on the road and win three straight games against teams as good or better?
I’d much rather have them play their starters so we can see if the Packers have a legit chance to do something in the playoffs.
Also, I wouldn’t want them to let up at all, like they would if they knew the Bears weren’t trying to win. They’ll be better off if they keep their foot on the gas all the way through the playoffs, including next week.
Honestly, with Rodgers back, and the defense playing at a high level, as long as we don’t commit eighteen penalties, kick line drive punts to Hester, and turn the ball over during the game’s most important drive, we should win fairly easily… The Packers are a far better team than the Bears when they don’t make stupid mistakes
Nice game for AR's comeback
Rough start, up 14-0, then before you could say ‘shit’ it’s 14-14. I gotta tell ya, tho, when AR had to scramble and couldn’t find DD running free, I figured we’d settle for another FG. Then, on the next play JN fumbles and we get ZERO. I’m thinking deja vu all over again, we’re gonna shoot ourselves in the foot again. You wouldn’t know it from the stats, but Kuhn had a pretty good game. Nice run in the 1st on 3rd and 1 for the 1st down. He was stopped but kept on diggin, wouldn’t be denied. AR=140 QB rating. The best stat, imo=ONE FG @ 31 yrds.
Guess I’d rather play da bares in the 1st game. Vick always gives us probs. But, really, if we don’t beat ourselves, we can beat anyone. It’s frustrating to think that this team could be 15-0 right now.
Gotta Say Rodgers
deserves the game ball without question. I think the story is—who is the goat? James Jones gets my vote. He can’t be counted on.
The Oline didn’t open any huge holes in the run game, which gave Rodgers the opportunity to shine. Run Blocking seems to be one of the monstrous weaknesses of this team.
Credit Desmond Bishop. I say the guy is every bit the player Nick B is. I’m glad he got his shot, like Flynn and Pep and Kuhn. Kuhn was a celebrity out there yesterday.
Wow!
We rout a 9-5 team that is in serious trouble with a loss, but can clinch a playoff spot with a win, 45-17 — and you wanna look for a goat?
Again, WOW!
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
Good point about Jones
That was the third time this year he’s dropped a perfectly thrown touchdown pass from Rodgers… and let’s not forget that he also was the one who carelessly held the ball low, in the inside arm, allowing the Bears to force the fumble that became the reason we’re not the division champions this year. Jones should be moved to the number 4 wideout, with Nelson at number 3 (not just because of Jones’ faults, Nelson has consistently better hands, is bigger, a better jumper, and just as fast)
Nelson's catch on the 10 yard line at the end of the game was so pretty,
but honestly you really cant go wrong with either of these guys as your #3 WR…!
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
But there not perfect!
Mrraagh! I want them to be perfect!
Actually I wanted to complain about Jordy’s fumble and Jones’ drop, but I can’t. They’re doing pretty good, I think I’m just not forgiving them for mistakes that I would forgive other players for because I can see them being better than they are. These guys are already good and I should just give them a break.
Stupid self realizations.
I hate the Giants... and kittens.
Bishop gets overlooked in this game
He had a great game, making all the little plays that elevate this defensive unit from good to great. He led the team in tackles, and saved the Brandon Jacobs fumble from going out of bounds. Rodgers deserves the game ball, but hats off to one of our less heralded linebackers for his excellent play.
Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.
Bishop's been playing out of his mind for the last month
Really shot up the depth chart. Assuming we have all these LBs going into training camp, it’s going to be a very interesting fight for starting spots next year.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
TWO WORDS: CHARLES WOODSON.
Even though I voted for Rodgers for opening up a QBing clinic on the Giants and even though I’d be hard pressed not to give Clay Matthews my second vote, Woodson was in on so many plays, he was quietly the guy who they had no answer for although they probably focused on him more than anyone else in the secondary.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
They just need to get him better plays.
He gave up a few plays yesterday because he was on his butt after losing his footing.
Omaha's Christmas List:
Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).
The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.
A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.
Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.
Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.
*I meant better shoes, not plays
Omaha's Christmas List:
Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).
The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.
A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.
Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.
Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.
Great game for Rodgers. How many perfect throws did he make that game? I think the biggest thing though is his ability to move around in the pocket. He just looked so comfortable out there, and basically tore that Giants D to shreds. Some of the drops were disappointing though. Jones has got to start playing more consistently.
The defense was really, really impressive. Eli was clearly pretty rattled, and I think a lot of that had to do with Raji. He was pretty amazing yesterday. Matthews finally seems to be healthy again too, which is great news.
I think as long as we don’t beat our selves, we should win over the Bears and anybody else really. This is a really talented team, and I hope they continue to play up to their potential because when they do they’re hard to beat.
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yep, Mathews was a mile better, taking on double teams and still pressuring the qb
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

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