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Packers Playoff Picture: Packers Beat Bears And They're In

If the Green Bay Packers beat the Bears next Sunday, they're in the playoffs. If they lose, then they need some help in the form of QB Rex Grossman defeating the Giants. I think we'd all feel better if the Packers just won.

The Packers vs. Bears has been flexed to the late Sunday afternoon game. Possibly the NFL didn't want the Packers to know their playoff fate going into the game (i.e. the Giants and Buccaneers had already lost). Now the Sunday night game will be the NFC West title game (NFL subdivision) as the Seahawks attempt to make the playoffs with a losing record. When will the BCS kick them out? The complete playoff standings from ESPN.

If (when) the Vikings lose on Tuesday night in Philadelphia, they face the prospect of drafting ahead of the Lions for the first time in years. And they're looking at their first last place finish in the NFC North since it was established in 2002. Every other NFC North team has finished in last place in at least one season.

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Savoring this Big Win here in the greater Chicagoland metropolitan area, and what it does to make for a good week. The Bear people have gotten loud lately and need to learn that it isn’t September anymore. Let’s do this thing!

by clincher on Dec 27, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

Bears were impressive over the Jets

I really have no idea how Forte was able to get those numbers against them. Living in Chicago, I get to listen to all the Bears post-game shows. I don’t think they’re taking the prospect of facing the Packers in the post season seriously. There was a lot of talk about what it might be like to play the Eagles or Giants, but the Pack didn’t get more than a couple of minutes of consideration. I think they honestly believe they’re going to knock the Pack out next week.

"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi

by AdamA on Dec 27, 2010 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

They honestly do...

They have Pope Brett on their side. We should have won that last game against them, total fluke we lost, and it will be sweet to beat them at home, then beat them in the post-season. The Bears, like the Packers, rely on positive QB play and a tough defense, except the Packers are more consistent in these areas. Every other phase of their game, like ours, is a bonus (sometimes a negative) and I’m sure we’re better at that too.

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Dec 27, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I hope Deanna divorces his ass

THAT would be the big ol’ cherry on top :)

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 27, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I disagree about the QB thing

They rely on non-negative QB play (ie. they think they can win as long as Cutler makes the easy plays and doesn’t do anything overly stupid, their offense is running back-centric)

On the other hand, the Pack have a QB-centric offense that relies on one of the top 5 QBs in the NFL. Because of how much better the Packers are at the mosti mportant position on the field, I can’t see them losing if they don’t completely choke (which would be something like taking 20 penalties, kicking to Hester, playing generally terrible special teams, and fumbling the ball in their own territory on the most important drive of the game – and then still only losing by 3 points, on the road)… So I’d say the Packers should take this one

by Sheegan on Dec 27, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

The Packers don't have anyone like Devin Hester on the roster,

and he was the only reason the Bears won that game in September. For whatever reason, teams kick to him and get burned.

by TarHeelHawk on Dec 27, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Commiting 18 penalties

was a larger part of the reason.

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by NorthStarr on Dec 28, 2010 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

James Jones Fumble

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Dec 28, 2010 1:47 AM CST up reply actions  

So many dumb mistakes!

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Well said!

"We're nobodies underdog" -MM

by Early4Pack on Dec 28, 2010 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Over the last few games the Jets defense hasn't been very impressive

Losing Leonhard was one of the underrated injuries of the NFL season.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Dec 27, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Bear Steaks

Having a barbecue next Sunday, how do you like your bear steaks? Go pack Go!

by joeybal56 on Dec 27, 2010 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

like it best when a team holds its own playoff destiny in their hands

I mean if they win they are in, as a fan that is what you want. and if they should lose and fall short, well there is no one to blame. You have to look at it as the 1st playoff game when you are in the spot

the Packers will be a dangerous team if they make it

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by Rickfansince76 on Dec 27, 2010 10:35 AM CST reply actions  

Indeed!

"We're nobodies underdog" -MM

by Early4Pack on Dec 28, 2010 1:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Big game

Yesterday was flawless. It helped me forget about the bitterness of 2007 playoffs and rub this one into the faces of some of my Giant fans friends.
Rodgers had it going after that play to Jordy and had probably the best game of his career. Surprisingly, even MM didn’t screw up at the end of RZ with his playcalling. We held the ball three times within NYG 5 yd line and after Bjax did his run-to-his-left for no gain thing (Bjax reverted back to his usual self after the very encouraging performance last week), the play was put into the hands of the best player of the game – resulting in three passing TDs. Rodgers is such a big weapon in the RZ as he is always a threat to run and there is little a D can do with a mobile and accurate QB like him. The pass to Lee was a beauty as he avoided one of two would-be sackers and bought extra seconds.

Moving on, if we keep playing like yesterday, we can beat the Bears twice and go a long way this season. Beating Chicago next week would mean another trip to Soldier Field the week after, unless Tampa pulls off a shocker next week (I think the Saints will lose tonight). Bring em on!

by Rodgers_for_MVP on Dec 27, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah Bjax couldn't sniff the endzone at all.

Loved that Kuhn did though against a pretty solid Giants line. Twice.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 27, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate when they give Jackson the ball in the Red Zone

Honsestly, if you’re gonna run it, bring in the big Kuhn-a, maybe with Hall/Johnson to lead block, and just pound a way, he’ll almost always find a way in.
That’s if you’re gonna run it though.

personally I think they’d be better off just spreading the field every time they get inside the five and let Mr. Rodgers find the open man quickly, like he does best. If they did this three straight plays every time they got first and goal inside the five, they’d probably score within the first two plays just about every time

by Sheegan on Dec 27, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Waddidja think o' Kuhn?

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by NorthStarr on Dec 28, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

It amazes me...

A basketball expert (Chris Broussard) knows more about football than ‘Skip’ Bayless. If you watched First Take, you know what I’m talking about.

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 27, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

It amazes you that Skip Bayless doesn't know what he's talking about?

Either you’ve never seen him talk before, or you’re easily amazed. :-P

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Dec 27, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

That mouth is not a mouth. It is a talking ___hole…..

by Bush League All Star on Dec 27, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldnt say that Broussard is an expert of anything

especially basketball

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by blackoutsox on Dec 28, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

As long as we play like we did yesterday we should win. How crazy is it that we’ve had an effective running game two weeks in a row now? Anybody else really like Quinn Johnson in there lead blocking? Seems like he was freeing up a lot of space yesterday for our backs, and he was even pretty good in protection.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 27, 2010 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

I do like Quinn lead blocking...

but he is god awful in picking assignments in the passing game. I don’t want to get to the point where when other teams see him in, they switch their brains to “here comes a run” mode. If he gets to his guy, that player is down and hit hard. He needs more playbook and coaching work from the backs coach.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 27, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll agree with you there

I did see Jackson make a couple of protection plays this week though. So hopefully he’s putting that part of his game together.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Dec 27, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You mean Johnson? He actually looked really good in protection to me. I saw him pick up blitzing guys a couple of times.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 27, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

D'oh

Yes, Johnson. My bad.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Dec 27, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

He just needs

a little mentoring by William Henderson, maybe.

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by NorthStarr on Dec 28, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Thinking that couldn't hurt.

Quinn is effective in the run game. I love the way he will just destroy a linebacker. I am still waiting for him to get it together on knowing who to pass block.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 28, 2010 1:41 AM CST up reply actions  

he was good in chipping in

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by blackoutsox on Dec 28, 2010 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed completely

When Quinn lined up at fb and Kuhn at hb on a 3rd & 1 and they actually had Quinn lead block for Kuhn I yelled “FINALLY!”

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by sidtheelf on Dec 28, 2010 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, and he opened things up for Nance/Kuhn too. If we’re going to have an effective running attack here for the rest of the season, I think Quinn has to be a part of it.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Which is nice to say the least...

But I want Quinn to get to the point where he can also be effective in the passing game (catching, blocking, and knowing assignments) to the point where teams can’t just go: “Hey Quinn’s in! Run play.” I know that is overly simple, and I like Quinn. I think he is getting there in the passing attack and has improved. So he should be a stud next year.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 28, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I agree. It’s simple but correct. I just liked what he did in terms of protection against the Giants.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there anyway

the Packers can get the fifth seed in the playoffs and we get to face the NFC West winner?

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by jobe on Dec 27, 2010 1:01 PM CST reply actions  

Packers win and New Orleans loses twice.

The Saints play at Atlanta tonight, and host Tampa Bay next week. If the Saints lose both games and the Packers beat Chicago, then Green Bay, Tampa Bay, and New Orleans (and possibly New York Giants) would finish in a three- or four-way tie. What I’m seeing is that Green Bay would beat all the other teams on tie-breakers, regardless of whether NY Giants are in the mix.

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by cmadler on Dec 27, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd prefer the 6th seed

Then we get to face Chicago in the wild card, and if we knock them off we go to Atlanta instead of Philly.
Dunno about you guys, but after having played them both, Atlanta scares me a heckuva lot less than Philly. As long as we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot again we should be able beat Atlanta (and Chicago) on the road.

If we had the fifth seed I can’t see New Orleans losing in Chicago, which means they’d get to go to Atlanta, while we’d get stuck with Philly.

by Sheegan on Dec 27, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's more that in the first round

we’d play the “winner” of the NFC Worst West… and I like those odds a lot more then anything else

Fire Slocum

by Goldenarmadillo4 on Dec 27, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

And look how well that worked out last year!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Dec 28, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Kurt Warner is in that division anymore

When the best QB in the division is a rookie, that’s saying something.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Dec 28, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

If the pack gets the 5th seed the Saints will not be in the playoffs.

If the Saints lose their next two games and four teams(Pack, Giants, Bucs, and Saints) are tied at 10-6 then it will be the Pack as the 5 seed and Giants as the 6 seed. If the Giants don’t win there game next game then the Bucs will be the 6 seed

by JDub37 on Dec 27, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm...

I agree with the Philly thing…I really like the match up with both the Bears & Falcons…Then on to Philly?!? I just keep having flashbacks of 4 & a mile in Philly back in 2003 playoffs I believe?!? However it works out, I like the Packs chances!

"We're nobodies underdog" -MM

by Early4Pack on Dec 28, 2010 1:45 AM CST up reply actions  

First Round

After playing around with the playoff scenario, we need Giants to win and Bucs to beat the Saints. That way, we get the NFC West team in the first round. Torn between who I want. I know our defense will just get inside the head of Bradford and make the Rams easy picking but the Seahawks are on the decline.

by king.nothing on Dec 27, 2010 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

have the bears said anything about resting starters??

knowing Lovie Smith I don’t think he’d do something like that against a rival

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by Wisco12 on Dec 27, 2010 4:26 PM CST reply actions  

Remember what he said when he got hired?

He said he was there to do two things: win the division, and beat the Packers.

I can’t see him resting starters against the Packers.

But, honestly, Green Bay is far better than Chicago when they play well, so I’m not worried.

If both teams play their best game, Green Bay’s at least ten points better, especially at home.

by Sheegan on Dec 27, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

The Bears are not going to rest their starters

They get a bye week with a win next week. And they would want none less than knock the Packers out of playoffs.
If we play like yesterday though, won’t matter who starts for the Bears. We can crush everyone.

by Rodgers_for_MVP on Dec 27, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Which yr. did the Pack finish last in the NFC North?

Another stat I liked from the game=only 3 pts. given up in the 2nd half and ZERO 4th qtr. THAT’S how to close out a game.

by bigbill992001 on Dec 27, 2010 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

I have no idea but I'm guessing the year before they drafted Hawk?

Omaha's Christmas List:

Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).

The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.

A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.

Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.

Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 27, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

As far as the Vikings are concerned,

that entire franchise and fan base can drop down into a big spiral of irrelevancy as far as I’m concerned. Everything that has happened over the last few weeks has been karma from last year; and more specifically karma for selling your soul to get one player. The best part about it is that it’s going to take a long time for the Vikings to dig themselves out . Meanwhile, every team in the division will be getting better.

Couldn’t happen to better group of people.

by TarHeelHawk on Dec 27, 2010 6:52 PM CST reply actions   3 recs

It would please me greatly,

if they haven’t bottomed out, yet. :)

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by NorthStarr on Dec 28, 2010 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

No.

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by NorthStarr on Dec 28, 2010 3:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I think they can't live on that model right now.

They are getting older and adding another older QB just puts off the rebuilding they need. They have a good core of young skill players, but I still think a rebuild around a groomed QB would be something to look at.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 28, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Good thinking

But it’s Minnesota. They haven’t exactly been smart about developing a QB lately (barring a breakout 2011 season from Joe Webb).

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by mike_o on Dec 28, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Except, the question wasn't

about whether or not the Vikings would pull the trigger on it; it was whether doing so

would give them a short revival?!?
I think that the Eagles were willing to trade McNabb to a division rival at least in part because they really believed that he couldn’t help anybody win any more.

And, I think that they were right!

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by NorthStarr on Dec 29, 2010 1:45 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

If they do that, it’ll only delay their rebuilding more, which I think has to be done. They need a Qb bad, some offensive lineman (McKinnie, Hutch, and Herrea are all 30+ and declining imo), maybe a DT to replace Pat (though Giuon looks ok), probably a guy to replace Leber, and then all the secondary help they can get.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe someone to replace Greenway.

He is going to fetch some good money this year. I don’t know whether he’ll resign (barring looking up if he did resign).

I think Rice and Ray Edwards need to be resigned as well.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 28, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s gonna be hard for them to sign those guys. All of them probably will end up getting some pretty big contracts.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

And, if there is a cap next year,

then, after Jarred Allen and Bertt, they may not be able to re-sign anybody, haha.

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by NorthStarr on Dec 29, 2010 1:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Then again,

I’d be damned surprised if Bertt comes back next year.

Could be wrong, though.
Wouldn’t be the first time, nor the last. :)D

TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
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by NorthStarr on Dec 29, 2010 1:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha haven’t we all!

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

And, of course,

the obligatory once every fifteen minutes I’m not a Bares fan!

TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
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by NorthStarr on Dec 29, 2010 1:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, we owe the Vikings one big "thank you" for beating the Eagles tonight

What it means to us: The Bears are now comfortably ensconced in 2nd place, and cannot move down. They can move up, assuming they beat us and Atlanta loses at home to…Carolina. Pretty sure that’s not going to happen, so even if Lovie does run his starters out there, I can’t see them playing for very much. The fans and the coach may hate our team’s collective guts, but the players are the ones who’ll know that the game is meaningless – it’s not like they’ll face us until the NFCCG if they do lose. I’m calling the Pack by 2 TDs in this one.

The second reason we have to thank the Vikings is for knocking Mike Vick around a bit. He was visibly gimpy by the 4th quarter, and his mobility and accuracy were affected. Now, I’m not saying that he’ll still be hurting in two weeks’ time, but if there’s anything our team likes doing, it’s roughing up QBs. If we can put him on the turf in the first quarter as often as the Vikes did, well, let’s just say that our CBs have better hands than the Vikes’ CBs…

So thank you, Vikings, for doing us a solid.

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by Clutch16 on Dec 29, 2010 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Reason number one

You underestimate Lovie Howell Smith’s commitment to “beat the Packers.”

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The glass is still more than half-full!

I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.

by NorthStarr on Dec 29, 2010 1:54 AM CST up reply actions  

You got a number 2?

Because Lovie ain’t suiting up for the game, unless I’ve been grossly misinformed.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Dec 29, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

You gave two reasons why

we owe the Vikings a great big thank you.
My subject line was a reference to the fact that I was responding to ‘reason number one’.
Just saying that I expect the Bares to play to try to win, and play their starters towards that end, regardless of their playoff situation.

TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!

I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.

by NorthStarr on Dec 29, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I gotcha now

I’m a little more pessimistic on that front – we’ll see on Sunday, though.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Dec 31, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

6th seed it is.

Omaha's Christmas List:

Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).

The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.

A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.

Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.

Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 27, 2010 11:13 PM CST reply actions  

Yup

But if our defense is able to carry over what they’ve been doing on the road, I like our chances.

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 28, 2010 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Good

Now we get the opportunity to beat the Bears two weeks in a row and make a claim as de-facto NFC North Champs. :-)

by Puddleglumed on Dec 28, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Is there any way we could end up playing the Eagles in the 1st round assuming we win next week? I suppose they’d have to lose this next week too, right? Head to head is the first tie breaker right?

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

Eagles lose either game, they're stuck in the 1st round

Which is why we should be rooting for them to beat the ’queens and ’girls (good one, eh? :P).

'TAAAAAAANNNK!!!' - Any of Francis, Louis, Bill, or Zoey

by mike_o on Dec 28, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Quinn and Quinn Jr.

I laugh every time I see Johnson lead blocking for Nance, cause they look like twins, with the hair and everything.

by Katsuya89 on Dec 28, 2010 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

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