Packer Notes: Rodgers Was Great, Hall and Bigby Are Out, and The Bears Are Coming To Play
by Brandon on Dec 28, 2010 7:01 AM CST
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PrintIt's behind the ESPN Insider wall, but as I expected, QB Aaron Rodgers was given very high marks by Football Outsiders. His performance against the Giants was the high mark for any quarterback this season. We didn't see it last Sunday, but the Giants pass defense has been exceptional this season. Oh, and the Giants are still stuck in Appleton as they try to prepare for a must win game.
Neither player is critical to the team. But Mike McCarthy did officially announce FB Korey Hall and SS Atari Bigby are out next week. Both contribute on special teams, however they have a week to prepare for their absence.
Lovie Smith said the plan is to play all their players on Sunday. The main point of the linked article is that the Bears are one of the healthiest teams, which is kind of depressing after watching how the Packers injury plagued season has unfolded. Maybe they'll feel different if the Vikings pull out a stunning upset over the Eagles on Tuesday night, but he didn't rest his starters after he had locked up home field advantage throughout the playoffs back in 2006 either. Both teams will be coming to play.
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Nice article about Packers improving in the penalty department
Here. They’ve got a chance to be the least penalized Packers team since going to 16 games.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
That's *after* 18 vs. the Bears
Which was a franchise high. Either the zebras have been taking it easy on us or our discipline has really improved over seasons past. I’m leaning toward the latter.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Very impressive. I thought FOR SURE it was going to be the same crap again this year…esp after the Bears game. I’ll hand it to MM though, he really cleaned it up this year. FINALLY!
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
It's interesting
that the Packers AND Badgers avoided the killer penalties that we know and hate from years past this season.
That trainwreck of a 2008 Badgers team made it clear, in no uncertain terms, that the team could not possibly commit so many penalties in a game, have terrible QB and DL play, and still finish in the top half of the conference.
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 28, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Anybody with an ESPN insider accouint feel like posting what FO said about AR?
I’d love to read it, but not $6.95 love to read it…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
It's your lucky day
I posted the link below, but since I’m feeling generous here it is again.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
Note, that isn't the ESPN Insider article
It’s the actual FO article, so no charge.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
"but not $6.95 love to read it"
Agreed.
Including only the stuff that I would actually be interested in reading, there is more free content on the internet than I could ever read in a lifetime of 24-7 speedreading; so can’t see why I would ever pay to read anything from any site, let alone B.S.P.N.!
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
The chronic penalty problem
was one of the things that made McCarthy look incompetent, as a success and detail oriented head coach.
He did fix this problem.
Now he just needs to get the special teams up to and above par, along with doing a better job having our high potential offense ready to play out of the gates each week.
That offensive game planning was stellar against the Giants. The planning and execution in the Giants game made the Lions and the other “blown” loss games look even worse.
Intelligence clearly shows itself in the competitive world of football.
Just hoping the intelligence in planning and preparation continues.
Giving the team the Love they deserve for a very good and hard fought season.
Good job and keep rocking it!
Is it wrong to have a hate/love feeling for the Bears?
I hate them, especially when they play us… But I find I have a weird love for the Bears because of the teams rich history and tradition of strong defense…
It’s almost if I weren’t a Packers fan, I’d probably be a Bears fan.
don't forget to brush your teeth.
by Drew C on Dec 28, 2010 12:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
In boiling acid
Don’t ask my why the acid has to be boiling, it just does.
I hate the Bears... and kittens.
After all that's over, can you take a nice stroll through downtown Pripyat?
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 28, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
It's just respect
And it’s fine as long as you don’t give it to teams from Chicago, so stop it!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 28, 2010 12:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes. It's totally wrong.
Compare the ownership and how the coaches, players and fans have been treated over the years. Apples and oranges. It’s a completely different culture and that history and tradition stuff is only something management ever pays lip service to any more. They were lucky that Lovie was that kind of coach, but if he wasn’t, it wouldn’t have mattered much to them at all.
What’s ironic is despite his successes in trying to hold on to that tradition, Bears fans generally react with antipathy toward him. I’ve never seen anything like it. He brings them a respectable product in terms of record and people out here jeer him like he was Benito Mousillini or something.
If I weren’t a Packers fan, I probably wouldn’t give a rats ass about professional football because the NFL sucks as a corporate entity. I’d be just as happy watching college games. Green Bay has the only team worth a damn in professional sports, period.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
You might want to get that checked out...
and if its contagious then get the #$!$ out of here!!!
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
by TrevorR on Dec 28, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahahaha.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
I have a hell of a lot more respect for the Bears
than I do the Vikings, and that probably has something to do with the Bears actually having accomplished a few things in their history.
Don’t get me wrong, I still want the Bears to lose every game they play, but I don’t the white-hot hatred towards them that I do for the Vikings.
The Importance of Kuhn:
Kuhn, in fact, has emerged as one of the most efficient running backs in the NFL this season. He has converted 25 first downs on 80 carries, including 8-of-9 on third-and-1, and has the league’s second-best conversion rate (31.3) among running backs with at least 25 first downs. Overall, Kuhn has 31 first downs on 94 touches this season.
"Coach Gundy, why was Oklahoma able to march right down the field against you?" --Erin Andrews
by dishingoutdimes on Dec 28, 2010 2:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
awesome, now get rid of Nance
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Dec 29, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
Why?
I don’t understand why people are so down on Nance. The guy is just now getting touches in game situations that actually matter (not just handoffs after the game is over), and he’s actually looked pretty good. From a running stand point, I’d take him 10 times out of 10 over Jackson.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2010 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
We Talked of This
Prior to the season. Packers v Bears with a playoff spot on the line, Rodgers v Cutler. Bulaga baby.
When he was at Iowa, he was known
as the Great White Whale.
by TarHeelHawk on Dec 28, 2010 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone knows
the Bears are the biggest pretenders in the NFL. Cutler will throw away the first playoff game.
I am PREYING that we get to face them in the first round in Chicago.
I am praying
the Packer prey on the Bears, two straight games.
They aren’t pretenders (most of the time), but certainly beatable by the Packers A-game team.
Hopefully we only see the A-game team the rest of the season.
For those interested
The FO article on Rodgers is free. It’s the ESPN article you have to pay for, which totally makes sense…
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
Wow
FO says it was the best game of the season by a QB, and the 11th-best game by a QB since they started tracking DYAR in 1993.
by Puddleglumed on Dec 28, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad
it doesn’t make too much sense to me. :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
Of course the Bears are coming to play
Even if they lock down the number two seed, they still have a shot at knocking out their bitter rivals.
Maybe the Bears lucky healthiness will be rattled on Sunday
Doesn’t matter if they play their starters or their reserves, we’ll beat em anyways. Two weeks in a row too.
also, Rodgers, Williams, and Raji were robbed of Pro Bowl selections, although I rather our guys be playing in the Super Bowl.
by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 28, 2010 6:34 PM CST reply actions
Ryan over Rodgers is an absolute joke
you put Matt Ryan in the situation Rodgers has been in all season and he doesn’t win a game.
Rodgers is ten times the QB Matt Ryan is
Yeah, to me Ryan seems like a glorified game manager. Seems like he plays second fiddle to Turner and the running game, and when that’s not working (Monday night for example), their offense sputters. I don’t know if Rodgers is 10x the Qb he is haha but he’s definitely better than him imo.
I think it’s a joke that Brees made it over him too. He’s been pretty inconsistent this season, throwing 21 INTs.
The only I understand is Vick because he’s been pretty amazing this season.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
well yeah, not ten times
exaggerating for effect I guess
Bears
I wonder if they realize that they FINALLY regained their spot as our top rival? It’s been Minnesota for a couple years, but the only reason we temporarily switched was Favre. Now we can go back to pitying the Vikings and hating the Bears. It all starts with breaking their will this weekend, then breaking their backs the week after. We have the better team, I think we all know that. I’m just hoping some freaky event doesn’t give Chicago yet another wildly unexpected advantage. Luckiest team in the NFL…
by Welzy on Dec 28, 2010 6:40 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Look what being the better team got you..
A first round loss to the Eagles.. Toooo funny.
Adrian Pedestrian!! Now that's funny Mr. Bayless...
In my book,
I wonder if they realize that they FINALLY regained their spot as our top rival?
they never lost it.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct. I'd rather be right.
by NorthStarr on Dec 29, 2010 2:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Since Favre became a Viking
Chicago was second place to Minnesota on the hate meter for almost 2 years. I don’t know any Packer fans that thought differently.
we have hated da bears since 21, 40 years longer than the chokings
no matter how much i hate the chokings i’ll hate da bears just that much more
Priorities, I guess
If you can honestly say you wanted the Packers to beat the Bears more than the Vikings this year, this point is done because we obviously have different priorities. My distaste for the the Vikings/Favre arrogance temporarily superceded my hatred for the Bears. I didn’t know there were Packer fans that didn’t feel the same. To each his own.
Short term hatred for minor reasons like that
does not constitute a rivalry.
Rivalries are long term — withstanding the dual tests of time and losing records.
When the Vikings suck, the games against them, at least for the average Packers fan, are not as intense.
Not so with the Bares.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll repeat it as much as necessary.
The only true rival for Curly Lambeau’s team is George Halas’ team!
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
by NorthStarr on Dec 30, 2010 5:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
My hatred of the Bears (and with everything, really) has mellowed with time, but it’s still the best rivalry in football at any level.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The world disagrees
Why else did the Packers/Vikings games set new records for television viewing? You won’t find that when we play the Bears. Rivalries change all the time. Most times they still fall back to a default (Bears), and it will again in this case. Temporarily, the Vikings were our biggest rivals. If you don’t think so, you don’t bleed Green and Gold, you watch it.
You've missed the point, completely.
Short doest-term, temporary, shit like that
Why else did the Packers/Vikings games set new records for television viewing?does not make a rivalry.
Temporary is temporary.
Rivalries are permanent!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
*Short-term, temporary
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
Actually
Every team in our division is a “rival”. It’s simply a competitor you want to defeat. The Bears are our normal MAIN rival by default, but they were a non-entity and non-factor last year. The Vikings last year did not suck, they kicked our ass twice and rubbed it in. When they got Favre, they instantly became our MAIN rival – the one you want to beat the most. I still contend that if you asked all the Packer fans at the start of this season who they wanted to defeat more, Vikings or Bears, you wouldn’t get many picking the Bears.
HATE EM HATE EM HATE EM
never have rooted for da bears to win a game, EVER
root for the chokings twice a year, 3 if they play dallas
and by the way i was only alive for 1 of those 40 years of extra pure hatetred
i even beat the crap out of some dude just for being a bears fan
What do you mean?
They only had
1. The game in week 1 given to them on a tecnicality
2. Played a Miami team that started Tyler Thigpen at QB
3. Played Carolina (as opposed to Atlanta)
4. Played a mentally beaten down Vikings team featuring Joe Webb
5. Had a second game against the Lions given to them because Cutler got tackled too hard.
Feel free to add to the list.
Please include
- 18 penalties against Green Bay. Really?
- Philly played without their top 2 cornerbacks.
Yeah, they’ve had a lot of breaks go their way. It should be interesting to see us play them next week. In week 3 I felt like had we had only 10 penalties instead of 18, the game probably wouldn’t have even been close. I really think we’re a better team then they are, and I hope we prove so on Sunday.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 28, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention
The field in Chicago was atrocious for the Philly game, which slowed up Vick, Jackson, McCoy, and Maclin considerably… couldn’t even count how many philly players I saw slip and fall in that game… Didn’t seem like it was affecting the Bears, but then again they were probably wearing longer spikes because they were aware of the conditions
That happened in the Vikings game as well. Their field really, really sucks. I remember a few weeks back — Cutler and some of their other guys were complaining about the field.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Packers game
given to them by James Jones, with other help coming in the forms of 18 penalties, and Tim Masthay kicking a line drive punt to Devin Hester in the fourth quarter for a TD
Don’t even remind us! What a frustrating game that was. Jones fumbling was a killer though. You know we were about to score had he not fumbled that one. We had been shredding that defense all game long.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 29, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
That game was atroicious
Had we not been killed by penalties (a third of which were BS) we’d have won that game. Now this week, it’s time to rape the Bears and crush their spirits and they’ll easily be one and done in the playoffs.
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
Two things
Had we not been killed by penalties (a third of which were BS)
Stop whining about the penalties. Even by you logic that “a third were BS”, that still means there were 12 “legitimate” penalties in the game. That is way too many and we were straight up undisciplined in that game.
it’s time to rape the Bears
That is just completely uncalled for. Come on man.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
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