Five Questions With Windy City Gridiron
Dane Noble of Windy City Gridiron answered my questions about the Chicago Bears as they wrap up the regular season against the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field.
Acme Packing Company: The Bears will be playing their starters, but will it take their edge off that it's unlikely they have anything left to play for in the regular season?
Windy City Gridiron: The Bears have an opportunity to sweep the division Sunday, which is something that hasn't happened in the North/Central since the late 1980s. They also have an opportunity to help knock a long-standing rival out of playoff contention, specifically the team that Lovie Smith vowed to beat when he took the reigns in Chicago seven years ago. Honestly, we probably won't see all of the starters for the entire game, but you can bet they are not going to mail it in just because they have the #2 seed locked up.
APC: When I see the improvement in recent weeks by Forte and Cutler, I'm thinking it has less to do with them and more to do with an offensive line that is blocking better for both of them. Or is the truth somewhere in the middle?
WCG: It's just a perfect example of the entire team getting more and more reps under their belts, as well as Mike Martz and Mike Tice having worked with their guys a lot more. It's a new system, with a lot of new guys, so reps are just as important as anything. The OL still has major issues, but Martz and Tice are figuring out ways to adjust to help cover up some of thoe deficiencies. Not to take anything away from Cutler, Forte, or any of the other skill position players... just as a whole, the entire offense is finding more cohesion through a process of getting more and more reps under their belts.
APC: The Bears have allowed 30+ points to the Jets and Patriots in recent weeks. Has there been a problem on defense?
WCG: That defensive unit can be confusing sometimes. There are two things I would point out... one, for some reason, the Bears defense just forgets how to tackle sometimes. Maybe it's because they are constantly playing for strips, but it just seems like two or three times every season, they just can't tackle anyone. the other part is more system-related. Our defense is predicated on the pass rush... force the QB to throw the ball early, and let the LBs underneath make plays on short throws, or let the DBs make breaks on the ball before the route has been completed by the WR. The issue comes into play when we can't get to the QB. We simply do not have the talent in our secondary to cover WRs for any sustained amount of time, so when the QB has time to find soft spots, we get shredded. It all starts up front... if we can get to the QB, we're going to cause serious problems. If we can't get to the QB, then we are in big trouble.
APC: With Lovie Smith's hot seat turned off, do you think they'll be any changes to the coaching staff next season? Or do they still have to win in the playoffs?
WCG: The only coaching change we would see next year is if STs coach Dave Toub get s big promotion somewhere else. He's even been mentioned in coaching circles as a future head coach in the NFL... when that happens, who knows. As for Lovie, Martz, Marinelli, Tice... he's built up quite a team of coaches under him. With this year showing an upswing in performance, and getting more wins, I don't see any changes happen for next season.
APC: Looking ahead to the offseason, what's the one position you'd like to see the Bears upgrade?
WCG: Left Tackle. We have issue across the board, but we need badly to figure out a way to protect Jay Cutler's blind side. We also are in need of an offensive guard, a center, another guard, and maybe even another tackle. Is that more than one position? Let's just say "OL" is my answer.
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And probably about 20 other teams
Vikings included
Bev Pear: A jar? Girls don't pee in jars.
Randy Pear: Oh, right. Sorry. Jason, we're gonna need a jar and a funnel.
I'm not sure it'll be much of a competition......
Your line looks like pro-bowlers compared to ours, lol. If Angelo has half a brain, The Bears spend the Entire draft on OL and Corners.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions
LOL "OL"
This has been the worst year ever for offensive lineman across the NFC. I don’t even know if the Pack are going to be thinking about the offensive line in the draft unless they find a can’t-miss acquisition at their draft position because so many other teams will be looking to draft them.
Don’t the Bears have another year of late picks anyway? I thought they sacrificed a couple of years worth of draft relevance in order to field the team they have now…
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
Idk
I kind of think the Bears will go after a guard/center type of player. Contrary to what people think, I haven’t heard Omiyale’s named mentioned too much in recent weeks. Imo- he’s been pretty good at keeping Jay’s blind side covered. My biggest issue is the interior of the line. Garza and Kreutz are on their last legs with no real replacement for either.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Wow, Proph
Posting here is some much different than at BGN or the Daily Norseman, isn’t it? You can actually have intelligent conversation with members here. It’s so nice for a change.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
agreed train
the eagles fans are horrid
like chatting with ogres
I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Dec 31, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I don't really post much at other teams' sites
Every once in awhile it just somehow happens. It probably has something to do with my defense mechanism temper.
"He's a great candidate," Ryan said. "If I hadn't made him drop in coverage so often on running backs, he might be the all-time sack leader. They call it zone blitzing nowadays. We called it, 'Richard, pick him up.'" - Buddy Ryan on Richard Dent's HOF chances.
Not to take the focus off the Bears...
but specifically talking about the OL after watching the Giants game a few times, is it anyone else’s perception that Colledge seems … bigger than last year? Or even early in the season, he didn’t seem as, I don’t know, fat, I guess or as large. Is this just my eyes playing tricks on me because he seems like he actually belongs out there sometimes this season, especially after the success they had against NE.
"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09
I watched the NFL Network fifteen minute highlight package
last night and he had a just a gorgeous looking block on a Brandon Jackson screen. I agree, he looks better. ‘Course, it’s hard to give Colledge recognition because Josh Sitton has been so good the entire year.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
When was the last time
the Pack swept the North division?
The NFC North....
The division was formed in 1967. It looked the same as it does now but was called the Central Division. From ’77 to ’01 it included Tampa Bay. Sweeping a division is extremely hard to do, and the Packer have never swept the division.
The Bears have only done it twice. In the 15-1 season in ’85 and in the 11-4 ’87 season, but that one comes with an asterisks. The Bears went 7-0 in the division beating the Vikings, Packers and Bucs twice, but the Lions only once. The season was shortened to 15 weeks because of the strike and some of the games were played with “scabs”. (Sean Payton, the NO Saints head coach, was a scab QB for the Bears, lol) and because of that, the Bears swept the division, but only faced the Lions once. But the Bears hold the distinction of being the only team in the division to sweep needing more than 6 games.
The Vikings have also swept the division twice, in ’69 and ’73, winning all six divisional games in both.
The Bears have had the opportunity to sweep 3 times in the last 6 years. Minnesota stopped the Bears in a meaningless game in week 17 of the ’05 season. Green Bay stopped Chicago in a meaningless week 17 game in ’06 and Green Bay has an opportunity to stop the Bears again in a meaningless (for Chicago) game this week.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Also....
Neither Tampa Bay nor Detroit have ever swept the division, either.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Note....
As I researched the above post, I found that the “Black and Blue Division” is a name that is very fitting for our Division. Not only does it seem to be the least swept division in the NFL, but the teams in the division seem to generate more of their losses in division than out of it. Even when a team dominates, such as the 13-3 ’07 Packers, the 15-1 ’98 Vikings and 14-2 ’86 Bears, their losses come mostly come from the division. (The ’07 Pack lost 2 to the Bears, the ’98 Queens lost their game to the Bucs and the ’86 Bears lost to the Vikings)
This division beats the hell out of each other.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the reality check
I thought there was a year the Pack won out in the North/Central, but I was wrong.
Thanks for doing the homework and football history review.
Just hoping
BOTH the players and owners do not forget who allows them to make them all that money.
The immediate future looks bright for most of the NFC North teams, including da Bears and Pack, but those windows do not stay open for long.
Too much overt greed and a strike will hurt the league.
Note to the owners and players: Do not forget us fans!
Let the fans unite and keep the players and owners honest.
Do not be too greedy, honor the game and fans, and we will continue to take care of both sides.
I don't see a lockout happening
I just can’t see the NFL owners allowing a lockout to happen, there’s too much money to be lost, and the NFL is the #1 sport in the country, and I don’t think they want to do anything that would hurt that.
All women are beautiful when the lights are off!
by touchdown bears on Dec 31, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Owners have guarenteed contract w/ the TV networks!
Some teams will actually make money by not playing and most of them can easily withstand a lockout! Football is the #1 sport in the country, and even a lockout isn’t going to change that, IMO… Baseball and Basketball will be hurt more, but I don’t really watch either of them closely. They are afterthoughts to me! Football reigns supreme.
I expect a deal to get done in August sometime and lead to a 16 game season. With an abbreviated training camp and no off-season to speak of. Everything would begin the next season, like the 18 game schedule if that happens! There would be about 1 week in which to sign your FA and then a week of full FA period.
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
I agree.....
pretty much right down the line. I do think that the NFL being overly-arrrogant about the fans anger at a lost season will hurt the league though. Remember that baseball used to be the biggest sport in the country before a couple of strikes placed our focus elsewhere……
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with the strike, but....
I disagree about windows. I think that, as long as teams do a good job of infusing young talent yearly, that windows are mostly media created garbage. Green Bay and New England are two very good examples of this. Of course they are going to occasionally have a down year. But both organizations are very good at adding new talent yearly. Because of this, both organizations are consistently good. Windows only qualify if the front office is not good at replacing leaving and aging talent. And, in truth, that isn’t even as much a window as a GM/Head Coach slamming a door of ineptitude on the team.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Windows
Get alot larger for teams that draft and develop talent! NE and GB are among the best in the NFL in both regards! Signing FA and making huge trades gets you closer to a SB, but its not a sustainable approach! It shortens the window dramatically!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
And NE has what..?
6 picks in the first 3 rounds next year or something like that?
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
Forte
Definately has more burst than last year..the injury apparently bothered him much more than anyone let on.
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
the injury last year of course..
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
Yeah, I think he’s probably been overlooked. Ever since Martz started committing to the run game, he seems to have come on strong.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 31, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Have a Happy New Year All!
Let’s hope we see a lot of this on Sunday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkPS8Az5IV8
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
Our line is a very different group since then....
So I wouldn’t expect it, but good luck!
And Happy New Year to all bears and Packers fans, both the class of the league!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Dec 31, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
I for one am very happy about the fact that Lovi Smith will be coaching the Bears again next season.
It’s possible that he’ll eventually find himself handed a roster that’s so good he’ll get a ring, but he’ll just be along for the ride. I have yet to see anything from that suggests that he’s got a system that can’t be solved or that he can get a bunch of mediocre talent to play over their heads. He’s just a very, very ordinary head coach.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 31, 2010 7:43 PM CST reply actions
I agree....
Some will argue with you that the Bears have tons of mediocre talent this year and still won the division and over-achieved, just as they did in ‘05 and ’06. I wouldn’t be one of those people.The Bears did overachieve in ’05, ’06 and this year and Smith was the head coach in all three of those years.
But in ’05, the Defense saved the horrid Kyle Orton rookie offense. It was Ron Rivera, not Lovie Smith, who was behind that. ’06 saw Ron Turner having an uncharacteristically good year with an offense and Rex Grossman having third best season by a Bears QB in our 87 season history (to that point) while Rivera continued to coach the defense to dominance and create Pro-Bowlers out of guys like Nathan Vasher and Tommie Harris, while Devin Hester was ridiculous. How much did Smith have to do with that? He let Rivera go after the Super Loss and the defense dropped from #2 to number #21 with Bob Babich as the DC/puppet (and while Babich sucked as the DC/puppet, I believe that had more to do with Smith than Babich. Consider that Babich is considered one of the best LB coaches in the game).
The defense got no better when Lovie took over the DC duties himself. In fact, it got worse. Chicago gave up the 6th most points in their, then, 90 year history with Lovie DCing his own group. He was forced to replace….himself.
This year, Chicago has possibly the worst offensive line of the last decade anywhere in the NFL, a sub-par secondary and an interior defensive line that leaves much to be desired, as well as the absence of a consistent WR, yet they are at least the second seed in the NFC. Lovie? Nope. Mike Tice coached that horrid offensive line into playing over their heads, Mike Martz worked his scheme around to fit the line and the receivers and Rod Marinelli took the defensive groups and has Izzy Idonije looking great as a DE, and Anthony Adams, Matt Toeaina and Henry Melton playing solid ball in the interior line. He has an aging Charles Tillman looking decent and a overachieving Tim Jennings playing well as the #1 Corner. And he has both Chris Harris and the musical chairs aficionado of the secondary, Danieal Manning, playing safety well enough that even some non-Bears affiliated sportswriters have suggested that both deserved Pro-Bowl consideration. They are again a top defense for the first time since Ron Rivera left. We’ve even had a few Tommie Harris sightings.
Smith is going to get the credit this season, but it was really the promotion of Marinelli and the hiring of Martz and Tice that turned this team into the overachievers that they are.
Don’t get me wrong, Smih isn’t horrible (a 63 – 48 record isn’t horrible, but it is a 9-7 season average, which ain’t great either. But he is 8-5 record against the Packers makes me smile) but a .568 winning percentage isn’t special, either. And the fact that he’s now proven he cannot run his own system effectively is not a comforting thing.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 1, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
So he's just an ordinary head coach.
Omaha's Christmas List:
Anthony Tolliver to get healthy and resume doing this (see picture).
The Suns to go on a tear with their new parts.
A healthy Green Bay Packers team for a deep playoff run.
Gregory Echenique to become the love-child of Charles Barkley and Dikembe Mutombo.
Bubba Starling to say "Screw baseball" and head to Lincoln to take Taylor Martinez's job.
I'd say he's decent....
He seems to be better with less control. Some coaches are great micro-managers. Smith seems to be a detriment to the team i that role. He’s no Belichick (see 2007-2009). But when he is overseeing the big picture while he lets his assistants do their jobs, he, and the Bears excel (see 2005-2006 and 2010). More like the coaching style of Jimmy Johnson, where he was great at letting his coordinators do their thing with the players and directing the coaches from above.
He has the potential to be a very good coach. He just has to understand what seems to work better for him.
Right now, ordinary is a perfect word for him.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 1, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Manager
I’ve been saying for awhile that I would like to see McCarthy give up playcalling. Not becuz I think he sucks, I think he’s actually really good, but becuz I think the HC should be more of a manager, not a specialist! When a HC is calling plays, it takes away from his ability to manage the game and players best! I don’t know that Philbin our OC would be a good playcaller, but its a model that I prefer for a HC!
Its really unlikely that happens cuz the offense is McCarthy’s baby, but I would applaud him if he gave it up! The HC that tries to be the OC and playcaller also, makes it more difficult to manage other aspects of the team/game!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Exactly, and this leads to.....
a complaint that Bears fans have had about Smith and I know just from my few days here that Packers fans have had about MM.
Mistakes in Clock Management. With so many other things to worry about when a HC is calling plays as well, clock management suffers and it has and will cost teams games.
Great points, my man!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 1, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
This is completely unrelated to this page, but I was just wondering...
I read a comment on another page like this which said that Aaron Rodgers refuses to sign autographs, and either is rude, or avoids all contact with fans during training camp. They also said that he refuses to take part in the bike-riding tradition thing that they do…
Can someone let me know if this is true? I’m a big fan of Rodgers so I was just curious
He generally seems to be a very classy guy, so I thought it was false at first
Considering I'm not a Packers fan.....
you would probably expect a biased answer from me in the vain of “Rodgers is a douchebag”. But I would guess that it makes what I’m about to say more credible, not less.
My mother-in-law was a Packers fan (recently deceased). She attended GB training camp every year. She also has several items signed by Rodgers and a photo taken with him. She had nothing but glowing things to say about him, and talked on and on about how he was out signing autographs long after most everyone else had quit. And considering that she wanted to hate him because she loved Favre, it took an awful lot to change her opinion of the guy (and believe me, the woman could hold a grudge, God love her).
Take it for what it is, but according to her, he was a class act before he took the reins and just as much so, if not more, after he became “The Man”.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 1, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Thanks for sharing that.
I’d guess that whoever made those comments was probably just blowing smoke out of their ass Sheegan. A while back either Bedard or Silverstein did a nice, long piece about Rodgers. I think it was during the Packers bye week if you’re interesting in going back and reading it. It was a pretty good read.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jan 1, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
if it's on the internet, it must be true..haha
According to sources cited by ESPN Chicago, Bears coach Lovie Smith — who has promised publicly to go all out against the Packers — has told several of the team’s rookies and backups to be ready to play tomorrow.
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

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