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Sizing Up the Draft: Outside Linebackers

When the Packers transitioned to the 3-4 defense during the 2009 off-season, it instantly increased the importance of the outside linebacker position tenfold. Within the scheme, the OLB is arguably the most important play-maker on the defensive side of the ball, and must be capable of excelling in pass coverage, against the run, and, perhaps most importantly, in the pass rush department.

The Packers hit gold in the 2009 NFL Draft, trading up and stealing ex-USC linebacker Clay Matthews III.  However, just as it appeared they had a formidable duo on the outside, they lost a key piece of the puzzle. The departure of Aaron Kampman, though he wasn't necessarily ideally suited for the position, was a significant blow. Brad Jones filled in fine as a rookie, but there are concerns that he lacks the play-making ability needed at the position.

The need for a play-making, pass-rushing OLB became apparent in the latter part of the last season. Though the Packers' defense finished first in the league for yards allowed, it was obvious that they had some significant deficiencies with their pass defense. Ben Roethlisberger and Kurt Warner left the defense exposed and coordinator Dom Capers searching for answers. It was clear that something needed to change.

While some may argue that drafting defensive backs is a good way to shore up the pass defense, and this is certainly true to an extent, the best corners in the world can't defend wide-outs forever if no one is getting to the quarterback. There is little surprise that after a franchise quarterback, pass-rushing phenoms are some of the most prized possessions around the league.

So with all this in mind, let's turn to the 2010 NFL Draft to see what prospects the Packers could be targeting.

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Note: This list is not exhaustive of all the draft's potential 3-4 OLB prospects. Nonetheless, it presents a brief summary of several players the Packers could be targeting come April. Click on the player's name for a link to a YouTube highlight compilation, if available

The Thoroughbreds

Jason Paul-Pierre, South Florida

Every draft seems to have an athletic freak-of-nature and this year's appears to be Jason Paul-Pierre (although Taylor Mays and Bruce Campbell probably deserve a share of the title). Though Paul-Pierre only had one year as a starter in his three year collegiate career, he is largely considered to be the best pass rusher available in this year's draft. His 6'6, 265 pound frame, coupled with his quickness and overall athletic ability have turned heads the league round despite the brevity of his college playing experience. Paul-Pierre confirmed beliefs that he is a special talent with a 4.64 40 time at the combine.

So why am I even including him in this list? Even though most mock-drafts have him in the top-15, there is a chance that teams aren't convinced that Paul-Pierre is a sure thing. If that happens, who knows? Maybe he could fall to the Packers at pick 23. Or maybe Packers GM Ted Thompson will continue the trend he set last year and trade up for an elite pass-rushing talent.

Brandon Graham, Michigan

At 6'1, 268, some question whether Graham has the ideal build for a 3-4 OLB. And with his stellar performance as a hand-on-the-ground defensive end in the Senior Bowl, most believe his value is higher in that position. But Graham is a proven pass-rusher with top rate athletic ability, including a sub 4.7 40 time and 31 reps of 225 pounds at the NFL Combine. He is explosive and physical, and would be a stout defender against the run.

The main knock on Graham is his lack of fluidity and lateral quickness. While there's no doubt he's capable of moving up-field with exceptional burst and quickness, his workout at the combine did not indicate that he is ideally suited to drop back in coverage, a less-significant, yet still important duty of an OLB. If the Packers are going to draft him, which they may be able to do with the 23rd pick, they'll need to convince themselves that he can cover.

Jerry Hughes, TCU

Jerry Hughes was absolutely prolific at TCU as a pass-rushing DE, amassing 16.5 TFL and 11.5 sacks in his senior year alone. Hughes added onto his already impressive resume by measuring in at 6'2, 259 at the combine, and then ran a 4.59 40 and put up 26 reps. Hughes is a rare athlete, with an exceptionally quick first step and excellent up-field explosiveness, but also the agility and ball skills to be effective in coverage.

Some scouts caution Hughes may be a little undersized, and lacks the bulk to take on massive linemen in the running game at the next level. Nonetheless, he is a passionate player with an incredible motor, and, along with his pass-rushing proficiency, he is certainly worthy of being picked 23rd overall. He may have a late first/early second round grade at the moment, meaning the Packers could trade-down and still hope to nab him, but it may be a risk they are unwilling to take.

Sergio Kindle, Texas

At 6'4, 255, Sergio Kindle possesses the ideal build for a 3-4 OLB. Along with his lengthy frame, he has the athletic ability to go . He's a fast (though he ran a disappointing 4.64) , fluid, rangy athlete who actually played outside linebacker before switching to DE his senior year at Texas. There is little doubt that he has the coverage skills to complement his pass-rushing ability.

However, some are concerned that Kindle may be more finesse than explosion. He has had trouble defending the run and lacks the physicality and tenacity to take on imposing linemen. These concerns are reflected in the wide range of spots mock drafts have Kindle, with some placing him in the mid-first round, while others believe he'll fall an entire round later. He's probably too talented to fall to the Packers in the second round, but there is a chance he could be within striking distance if they decide to trade-up.

The Mid-Rounders

Ricky Sapp, Clemson

Like Kindle, Sapp has an ideal frame at 6'4, 252. He is a quick, fluid athlete who posted a 4.61 40 time at the draft. Adding to his value is the fact that he played standing up on occasion at Clemson: you don't have to worry that his burst won't translate from a three-point stance. He's a capable pass-rusher with considerable upside.

However, Sapp lacks the strength to be an effective defender against the run at this point. There are instances where he is completely taken out of plays by stronger linemen. Additionally, there may be concerns about his health. He suffered a torn ACL in November of 2008. He appeared to be unhindered during his senior year, but teams will have to determine if he has fully recovered. He should be available to the Packers with the 24th pick of the 2nd round, and could slip into the middle of the third.

Eric Norwood, South Carolina

Norwood tore it up on Saturdays as a defensive end for the Gamecocks, posting 24 sacks over his career as a starter. He is tenacious pass-rusher who just keeps on coming. He is a well-rounded athlete, with great fluidity, quickness, and overall speed, posting a 4.67 at the combine.

The biggest knock on Norwood is his diminutive size. At only 6'1, 245 there are certainly concerns that he won't be able to hold up the edge in the NFL. This concern alone will probably overshadow his prolific college career, and push him out of the first two rounds. If the Packers still need a proven pass-rusher in the mid-rounds, they should give Norwood a look.

George Selvie, South Florida

Prior to Jason Paul-Pierre's emergence as a heralded pass-rusher, all the talk coming out of South Flordia concerned George Selvie. However, Selvie returned for his senior year and underperformed drastically, only coming up with 3 sacks. Even so, there is a reason why Selvie was considered a top 3-4 OLB talent just a year ago. At 6'3, 252 he has good size for the position and is a solid overall athlete. And the cause for Paul-Pierre's success could certainly have been the fact that teams were primarily concerned with Selvie.

However, Selvie certainly didn't help his cause by turning in a disastrous 4.89 40 time at the combine. While 40 times aren't everything, the dismal time plus his poor senior year have pushed him out of the first half of the draft. He'll probably realistically go in the fourth or fifth round, and if the Packers haven't found a 3-4 OLB by then, they may very well give scoop up Selvie.

The Wild-Card

O'Brien Schofield, Wisconsin

If this list had been composed prior to the Senior Bowl, Schofield would probably be listed under the "Mid-Rounders" heading. However, he suffered a devastating ACL knee injury and was forced to have surgery. Immediately prior to this development, Schofield had just come off an impressive performance at the East-West Shrine Game, of which he was named game MVP. This was especially impressive considering it was Schofield's first time playing as a 3-4 OLB; he had been predominantly a 4-3 DE with the Badgers.

Schofield was a second-team All-American selection, in large part due to his 12 sacks as a senior, though undersized at 6'3, 242, Schofield accommodated with exceptional burst and physicality at the point of contact. Despite his fantastic senior year and Shrine Game performance, he will probably be available at a discount price, probably in the 6th or 7th rounds and maybe even as an un-drafted free-agent. There is some uncertainty about how much he'll be able to contribute his rookie season, but if the Packers are looking for a high-character, proven guy from the state, Schofield is their guy.

Poll
Which of these "Thoroughbreds" would you most like to see in the Green in the Gold following the draft?
Brandon Graham
56 votes
Jerry Hughes
87 votes
Sergio Kindle
61 votes

204 votes | Poll has closed

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Most Mock Drafts have him in the 2nd Round

but there are some putting him in the 1st Round, and word is he is climbing the draft board. Considering we pick late in the 2nd Round, it wouldn’t be wise to hope that he falls to us in the 2nd Round.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 14, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

DisAgree ~ Every Expert has Hughes going in the 1st...

Why is the web site so messed up… I really don’t like the new format… Can’t find anything… Can’t see anything… Harder to navigate… Just curious? Why the change and can we please change it BACK?

Go Pack!!

by Bird Dog Uni on Mar 14, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Consensus?

Linking to one guy’s opinion hardly makes it a “consensus.”

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 13, 2010 11:21 PM CST reply actions  

All the sites I’ve looked at pretty much support what Brandon said. I’ve seen Kindle being projected as a top 15 guy in most, if not every mock I’ve seen, and I don’t think I’ve even seen Hughes in the 1st round yet. Graham also would appear to be a 1st rounder based on the mocks I’ve seen.

by packallday555 on Mar 14, 2010 1:22 AM CST up reply actions  

perhaps

But i’ve seen just as many with hughes going in the 20s and Kindle slipping into the 2nd.
I also think there is a huge disparity in the quality of mocks. Most are not top quality, even the ones done by NFL.com “gurus”. I don’t get Kiper (who is top notch) and McShay (who is a moron), but Walt at Walterfootball.com has proven to be an excellent mocker. It’s not simply about ones ability to throw up a mock on a prominent website. It’s about guys who break down film and know what scouts and GM’s are saying and what it takes to translate to the next level.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 14, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really like Eric Norwood. I watched him play a lot this past year for South Carolina and the guy just has a knack for getting to the Qb. It’s kind of crazy to me that he is a projected 3rd-4th rounder just because he probably is one of the best pass rushers in the draft (in my opinion). I guess him only being 245 lbs. probably has a lot to do with that as there are many more teams that run the 4-3 defense. I would think 3-4 teams would be all over him though. He has the athletic ability to be an pass rushing OLB, and at 245 lbs. is only 5-10 lbs. off of the ideal OLB size. I would love to see us pick him in the mid rounds.

by packallday555 on Mar 14, 2010 1:27 AM CST reply actions  

Yah I like him too

You can’t argue with that kind of production. If we don’t end up nabbing one of the top-tier guys, I definitely wouldn’t mind snagging him in the mid-rounds.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 14, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eric Norwood is very good at getting to the QB. Yeah its weird to me how hes not projected to go that high since I personally see him as one of the top 3 OLB’s in the draft this year. I don’t see his being 245 lbs as a problem. I mean Matthews is listed at 250 but look at him he probably drank like 3 gallons of water to reach that weight at the combine. My complaint about Norwood is that hes pretty mediocre in coverage and I just can’t see him getting away with it in the NFL.

I hope that the FO takes a look at Daryl Washington from TCU. Hes long, fast a good tackler and good in coverage. I think his weak point is against the run but otherwise I feel like hes got a lot of potential. We definitely could use him.

by turnitin.com on Mar 14, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

My thoughts

I feel like the LOLB needs to be a little more stout against the run. The ROLB can afford to be more of a finesse, pash-rusher, just like RE in 4-3 are, because most teams are built to run to the left. I’d personally like someone with a little bulk at LOLB, which is why i think graham and hughes are great candidates.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 14, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think both OLB's in the 3-4 need to be solid pass rushers

it’s the DE’s that need to control their gaps and stopping the run. The 3-4 is supposed to bring in mixed blitz packages, but that won’t and can’t be the case if our ROLB isn’t a good pass rusher.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 14, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No they definitely do

But I think you need a tad more bulk on the left side, like a Mike Vrabel or a Jarret Johnson or a LaMarr Woodley at around 260…Norwood at 245 might not have that. I guess Brad Jones weighs in under 240 though, so I guess it wouldn’t be downgrading in that department.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 15, 2010 4:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hughes

Hughes is far and away the best 34 OLB, not to mention the best pass rusher in this draft! PRODUCTION is what scouts and GM’s want to see from the top athletes, and Hughes produced like no other college pass rusher in the past 2 seasons! Some GM’s might get enamored by a guy like Pierre-Paul, but the majority want to see not just the athletic ability but that coupled w/ Production!!! Hughes 4.6 40 is great, but even better is the exceptional 1.53 10 yd split! That is the epitome of EXPLOSIVE!!! His 26 bench rep are respectable and can be improved, Explosiveness can’t! Hughes also showed excellent quickness and change of direction as measured by the shuttle tests. His elite quickness translates to the ability to provide coverage when asked. Plenty of links if you not convinced that have Hughes as the No. 1 34 OLB in the draft!!!

http://www.draftboardinsider.com/cgi-bin/prospect.cgi?id=905

http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010jhughes.php

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Impact-potential-of-34-rush-linebacker-class.html

Graham, Pierre-Paul will be graded higher than Hughes as 43 DE’s, but as 34 OLB Hughes exceeds them all…

by Strohman on Mar 14, 2010 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

NFP also reported

that Hughes had a killer positional workout at TCU’s pro-day.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 14, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think Pierre-Paul and Graham will have better careers as a 4-3 DE. If Schofied had not torn his ACL, I’d be all for getting him. However, his ACL basically removed me from giving him a chance. I hate saying that as a fellow Badger fan. However, Schofield relies heavily on his speed and athletism, which will not be as effective coming off an ACL tear.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 14, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

@ Stroh... Really??? LMAO ~ I sure hope you get him Stroh... You've beat the drum enough!! : )

As much as I pray we get the LT we need… (& RT of the future for that matter… : ) I sure hope the Packers Draft Hughes… If nothing else to satisfy you STROH!! : ) I would sure hate to HEAR the I TOLD you SO’s if Hughes makes a splash somewhere else! LOL!! : ) Good Luck… I’ll be pulling for ya come DRAFT TIME…

Go Pack!!

by Bird Dog Uni on Mar 14, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

@ Bird Dog... LOL

Damn right I’m beating that drum!!! I am beating it even harder than I was last year at this time for Raji!! Was Thompson listening? I hope he is again! If he isn’t a Packer I will be keeping an eye on him. IF not Packers, theres a strong chance the Cards draft him. They have a huge need for a pass rushing OLB. And since I live in Scottsdale, I would be following him just as closely!

If we draft a LT, I would be happy that we got that position addressed, I just don’t see it happening in the 1st. Top LT won’t be available, IMO…

by Strohman on Mar 14, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

@ Stroh:

That was probably you I was arguing with last year about Raji… : ) I was all about CM3 last year after the Combine!!! : ) I was beating that drum awful hard back then! : ) I hope it turns out as well for you… We both got our guys last year… Hopefully… I get Bulaga and you’ll get Hughes! : )

Go Pack!!

by Bird Dog Uni on Mar 14, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thaddeus Gibson

With Kampman gone and Thompson possibly out of football with a neck injury, I expect that we might be drafting 2 DEs converting into OLBs. In round 4 or 5, I’d like to see the Packers take Gibson out of Ohio State.

by MikeDB on Mar 14, 2010 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

We could use depth at the OLB position, no doubt there

What’s your analysis of Gibson from OSU? Can you find a scouting report on him? Height? Weight? Pros? Cons?

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 14, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gibson is 6’2" – 243 lbs. Runs around a 4.6 forty. Bench pressed 225 lbs 32 times at the combine.

His obvious weakness is that he is a bit small for a 3-4 OLB. He was sometimes too small to fight off big lineman. It is possible that he can add more weight, according to some sports reporters who covered OSU.

His strengths are that he has played pass coverage at OSU. The Steelers seem to be showing interest in him. When watching OSU games he always seemed to be in the opposing backfield. He was generally very disruptive, and he didn’t give up on plays. He is also a good character guy. He seems to be one of those players who given some time and coaching could develop into an excellent player. At the least he would be a good back up and a good special teams player.

by MikeDB on Mar 15, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has anyone thought about trying to convert Desmond Bishop to an OLB?

We have too much depth at the ILB position, but little at the OLB position. Bishop is a hard hitter and good blitzer. His problems are in coverage, but considering he’ll be an OLB in the 4-5, he should mostly play zone coverage.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 15, 2010 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

what's this 4-5 scheme? sounds intriguing!

kidding aside, bishop at OLB would be interesting to see. I think he’s a great athlete, and he could definitely display it more so on the outside than in the middle.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 15, 2010 4:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

typo

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 17, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

More info from NFP regarding Hughes v. Kindle
Not only does Hughes have the type of initial burst out of his stance to reach the corner, but combine that with his lateral quickness and body control when flattening out around the edge and you have one of, if not the most well-rounded pass rusher in this year’s draft. Hughes can win his one-on-one battles with pure explosion and consistently gets on top of offensive tackles quickly, which is directly indicative of his 10-yard split. But what makes him so tough to block on the edge is his ability to counter off his speed rush, cleanly change directions and consistently keep opposing linemen on their heels and guessing on his pass rush.

vs


Kindle is the one guy in this group I really worry about at the next level. There’s no denying he’s a powerful athlete who has the range and speed to track the football once he gets going. However, every time I watch him on tape I always come away thinking he isn’t the most balanced of athletes when asked to change directions and is someone who needs to win with his first step in the NFL. After seeing his unimpressive 10-yard split time, where some scouts had him as high as 1.70 seconds, I’m starting to wonder if he can consistently win with his first step off the edge or if he’s just a guy who will be able to make plays in pursuit.

I’ll take this kind of indepth analysis over what Bucky Brooks throws up on NFL.com

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 15, 2010 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Good stuff

I hope Hughes will be available at #23. If we give him too much hype, other teams will catch on. LOL.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 15, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted Hughes because I think he's more realistic

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by blackoutsox on Mar 17, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

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