Mock Draft Help Request
by FriarBob on Mar 15, 2010 10:13 PM CDT
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PrintHey y'all, I'm in the Canal Street Chronicles mock draft and I'm running the Packers. I know some about your team, as I saw a few games on TV and/or Game Rewind. But for obvious reasons I don't know nearly as much as you guys.
So I figured I should drop by and ask your opinions on what position(s) you most want to see drafted next month. Especially taking into account your recent FA moves, is the OL really a 1st round concern anymore? It didn't seem like it to me, but how do you guys see it? And is there any other position between pass-rushing OLB that you see as critical enough to consider in the 1st?
Just in case it makes any difference, here are the picks so far. This may or may not adjust who you guys think might be available when your pick comes up.
1. Rams - Sam Bradford
2. Lions - Ndamukong Suh
3. Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy
4. Redskins - Russell Okung
5. Chiefs - Bruce Campbell
6. Seahawks - Eric Berry
7. Browns - Joe Haden
8. Raiders - Taylor Mays
9. Bills - Jimmy Clausen
10. Jaguars - Rolando McClain
11. Broncos (from Chicago) - Dez Bryant
12. Dolphins - Jason Pierre-Paul
13. 49ers - C.J. Spiller
14. Seahawks (from Denver) - Derrick Morgan
15. Giants -
16. Titans -
17. 49ers (from Carolina) -
18. Steelers -
19. Falcons -
20. Texans -
21. Bengals -
22. Patriots -
23. Packers -
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OLB, OT, CB, S, ILB, & RB Would be our current needs IMO...
OLB ~ Jerry Hughes seems to be garnering a lot of Play on ACME… Some want Graham… but, I believe he will be long gone before we pick at #23…
If Brian Bulaga, or Trent Williams falls to #23… I’m fairly certain we would still take them even though we re-signed Clifton & Tauscher…
My gut right now… Would be Hughes if the Patriots don’t take him at #22… : ) Don’t know if that helps…
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LT, OLB,CB, S, RB
and possibly a punter along with a kicker……. Oh yeah…. remember the punting & kicking? It was bad. :) Maybe a FA vet back up QB
@ Turd:
Hey Dude ~
Yes ~ We need a PUNTER bad… and Crosby can improve… but, I think the guy wants to know who we want to take in the 1st Round… and I doubt TT will draft a punter or kicker in the 1st! LMAO!
But, depending on who is still on the board at #23… I think it’s fairly certain if the right guy were available @ :
OLB (Hughes) , OT (Bulaga), CB (Wilson), S (Thomas) , ILB (Rolando McClain) , or RB (CJ Spiller) … TT ~ would take them!
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What?
Why would ILB and RB be a need? In fact we have too many ILB and as for RBs Grant and Jackson are enough. Remember we showcase our WRs not RBs. Our needs are LOLB, LG, depth at LT/RT positions, CB, SS, P.
They want power. We want respect...
by SenorChuckles on Mar 15, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
@ Chuckles:
So you’re OK with Hawk… and you think Grant and Jackson are enough… That’s your opinion…
In My Humble Opinion… If we have a chance to up-grade at ILB… I think we should! Same goes for RB… I’m not saying that we TARGET one of them… Especially in the 1st Round… but,
You’re telling me that if Rolando McClain were to for some reason fall… You WOULDn’t take him at #23… If he were the best player available? I call BS if you don’t! Or Spiller? Either one makes us instantly a better ball club… I can’t wait to see how this all plays out… : )
Go Pack!!
Brandon Chillar and Desmond Bishop are emerging though
Don’t be surprised if they give Hawk the boot from the starting role. Our ILB position is loaded with too much depth. There’s no way we go after an ILB.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
@ Jabooty...
You are very right… Chillar & Bishop are both probably better than HAWK… and will probably develop even more in their 2nd year in Capers system!! But… let’s say that kid out of TCU… (not named Hughes) is still on the board in the 3rd round… I could see TT taking him and then Trading Hawk or Chillar for more picks… I can’t remember his name… but, he’s shooting up Draft Boards… Just a thought?? I did forget about Bishop though… : )
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Daryl Washington (iirc)? Sounds like the production didn’t match the measureables with him.
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Mar 16, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Jugg ~ I did go to his profile or whatever and that seemed to be the case...
There are a couple so-called experts high on him though? I don’t know why. He did have a bunch of tackles though, over a 100 I think?
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Washington
Washington the OLB from TCU… He’s a good 43 OLB, but doesn’t have the pass rush ability needed out of a 34 OLB. That and he’s too small to play 34 OLB.
Hey Stroh ~
He couldn’t play ILB? I wasn’t thinking he could play OLB… : ) Hughes will be playing our LOLB position! LOL… : )
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So basically OLB is the greatest priority and only if a steal is available and no strong pass rusher prospects are available would you go OT? I can see that.
Oh and just curious, but which safety position? Or do you guys have the “standard” split between free and strong safety in your scheme?
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
Nick Collins is a Free Safety and was re-signed
There might be a chance we target a Safety early, but I doubt it. It wouldn’t frustrate me if we drafted someone like Earl Thomas in the 1st Round if he fell to us, but I wouldn’t want it. What I mean by that is a lot of defenses are basically having 2 FS’s as opposed to a FS and SS. For now though, we have just that and Atari Bigby is our SS. He’s a hard hitter, but lacks coverage skills.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Strongest priority is definitely, definitely LT. But the consensus seems to be there might not be any LTs available that are worthy of a 1st round pick. So because of this most of us are thinking we’ll go with either a OLB or CB but probably an OLB.
The safety positions are basically interchangable in our scheme but Collins is our ballhawk, who makes plays for us. Bigby is more of the safety valve guy that kind of “holds down the fort.”
by packallday555 on Mar 17, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Offensive line
With the recent signings of Clifton and Tauscher, there are a lot of offensive lineman currently on the roster. It just seems unlikely they’d go for an offensive lineman at this point. Finding another pass rusher to replace Kampman is a likely priority. Maybe Hughes. Maybe Sergio Kindle from Texas. Maybe Everson Griffin from USC.
That’s what I was thinking. On the other hand, to play devils advocate for a second, they are both 32+ which means they probably won’t be playing another 5+ years… but I figured that means you guys would draft OL in the 3rd+ to train their replacements for two or three years down the road.
For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.
@ Brandon:
While I love ACME PACKING COMPANY… I sometimes think you try to wind me up on purpose! : )
Brandon ~ We have linemen on the ROSTER that can’t get the job done… At least not so far! I hope Barbre, Breno, and Smith develop… but, as of right this minute… None of the 3 have proven they can play in the NFL…
I agree we need another ROLB… to back-up Jones or start ahead of him… We may even need someone else to BACK-UP CM3!!?? But, to think that the OL isn’t at the very LEAST our #2 priority right now is just plain kidding yourself! IMHO… : )
Go Pack!!
Brad Jones was drafted to be a project player
He doesn’t have the pass rushing skills. He was drafted in the 7th Round last year. He proved he can play, no question there. However, against the better teams in the league, he was one of the reasons why our D got lit up. He couldn’t get to the QB. We have a tough schedule this year. Last year we had a very easy schedule. That’s a huge difference. Drafting an OT in the 1st Round to have him sit for 3-4 years unless an injury occurs would not be as rewarding to our team as opposed to drafting a LOLB in the 1st Round to start on Day 1.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
leaning towards
an o-lineman now. Davis (rutgers) is starting to drop and that may push williams down to our area. if he’s their thompson may take him. don’t think cause we just signed cliffy and tausch that thompson still ain’t thinking of an OT, afterall it was just 2 years ago that we took jordy with our first pick. we already had jennings(2 years prior) and jones(1 year prior) and driver.
AGREE WITH YOU CRAB!! : )
Can you tell them… It’s not all about this YEAR… That TT has to think at least 2 years ahead to stay on top of our roster!? : )
Go Pack!!
It depends upon how the draft before our pick plays out
If OLB Jerry Hughes or Sergio Kindle is available, I expect us to grab one of them in the first, with the preference being on Hughes.
If they are taken and a solid OT falls into our lap, then we draft an OT.
Those are the only 2 positions I expect us to target in the 1st Round. We are all pretty mixed on what to do between the 2 positions. I think the re-signing of Tauscher and Clifton means we can target our OT in the 2nd Round though, then getting another high in the draft next year.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
target?
did they target jordy and the wr position in the 08 draft, they must have because they traded down to get him. nobody knows who thompson will take, just because a web site has hughes,kindle or graham rated high on their boards. it doesn’t necessarily mean thompson rates those players the same.
in 08 most publications had jordy between 10-15 best wr coming out. ted didn’t think so, don’t be surprised if the pack takes a LT or a RB with their 1st pick. don’t dismiss a trade down either.
@ CRAB ~ Yeah... I was really stumped when Ted took Jordy???
Don’t get me wrong… I think he’ll be a decent Packer for a few years… but, Why did we need to make him our 1st Pick of the ‘08 Draft when we had plenty of WR’s? He couldn’t have been the Best Player Available… He wasn’t even the Best WR available at the time You are right Crab… TT may surprise us… Hope it’s not in a BAD WAY! : )
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That's a good point
I’m still a little shocked TT drafted Jordy in the 2nd Round that year after trading down. I think my jaw dropped after hearing his name.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
I don’t think he traded down to get him. He was one of many players he was probably interested in that were all grading out about the same so he traded down, took the extra pick/s and ended up with Jordy. I was a little surprised by it too though…
he traded down for him
The 2nd Round pick we rcvd from our 1st Round pick that we gave up was used on Jordy Nelson.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
@ Jabooty: Believe it or not... I agree with you to a point!
I am not at all against that train of thought… An OLB who can make an immediate impact this year is very appealing! If the OT that is available when we pick @ #23 is “comparable” to the guy we’ll get with our 2nd round pick… I say go Defense! OLB, CB… Whoever they have rated higher on our Draft board! We saw what 1 guy can do when TT went after my favorite pick (CM3) LAST YEAR!
Maybe TT takes a page from his own playbook and gets both his OT & OLB in the 1st Round this year? It’s always a possibility!? I wouldn’t mind that at all! Especially if getting that additional 1st round pick included trading Colledge & Hawk! : ) LOL…
Go Pack!!
Seriously? We both reached an agreement!?
Did Hell freeze or what? jk. Yeah, I was pretty psyched when we traded up for CM3. Obviously I never expected that. If we could even draft Colledge and Hawk for a 2nd Round pick I’d be psyched. AJ Hawk should be worth a 2nd Round pick. Heck, Gaines Adams was and he never produced period. Hawk at least has a case for himself.
P.S- I think TT has a thing for white boys at the LB position.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
@ Jabooty:
Would love to trade Colledge for a 4th round pick and Hawk for a 2nd round pick! Would love to Trade our 2nd round pick & Colledge, Hawk, Bush, & Havner to the Lions for their 1st Round PICK! Lmao! ; )
Go Pack!
You Know What this sight needs??? Live Chat along side each article! That would be cool! :)
Then again… Maybe not… (That’s the Brent Favor in me coming out) LOL…
OK
@ BirdDogUni according to JUST first round and position of NEED imho… would be OT… left tackle. If Clifton goes down, there is no one and Jared the gay porn star gets 7-8 sacks again. IF one can get a LT in 2nd , 3rd, 4th or later and they work out …great. It would be nice if there was a crystal ball to look into. Next according to NEED I would say CB.
Harris is 35, ACL etc… Woodson is 33. So if Harris, Woodson or Tramon goes down… once again, no one …. imho that I have seen that is servicable.
There are many ways to generate a pass rush in a 3-4 without spending a 1st on a OLB. AGAIN, i am NOT or could /would be a GM. I just always thought a 1st round fills an immeadiate need.
@ turd ~ Another solid thought... and I agree LT IS OUR BIGGEST NEED... Even with Clif...
I have said that from day 1… IMHO… OLB is a higher priority than CB… I do advocate taking at the VERY Least… a CB in the 3rd Round! This draft is suppose to be very deep for CB’s…
I think we ought to go either LT or OLB in the 1st Round… Whichever one we don’t get ~ go after in the 2nd Round… TT may trade for more picks… If that happens I suspect he’ll go for CB Depth… Draft a CB round 3… RT in Round 4… RB in Round 5 if there is one we like… if not… another CB…. Round 6 S… Round 7 OL depth or Punter if TT has one targeted… Obviously it’ll depend on our draft board and players available… If we draft 1 WR this draft… I’d be shocked! But, we all know TT loves WR’s! : ) lol
Go Pack!!
@ turd ~ To clarify... The reason I think OLB is a bigger need than CB...
Is because… With the rush of an AWESOME LOLB in the face of opposing QB’s… Our CB’s will look a whole lot better… and we had some good young CBs hurt last year…
I do agree we need to address the CB position… just like we do the 2 tackle positions… We’ll have to see where Ted’s priorities are…
If he Drafts Kyle Wilson in the 1st round and Hughes is there… (God Help HIM… STROH’ll have a Heart Attack!) but, We will know where his priorities are!?!
If he drafts Kyle Wilson and Bryan Bulaga is there… (GOD HELP HIM!) We will know where his priorities are… I just don’t know what he’s thinking and can only give you my opinion… A LOLB who is a great pass rusher/cover guy… will definitely help the secondary as a whole!
Go Pack!!
First off I don’t ?ike your mock draft, you got the top 3CB/Safety’s goin one after another. Next we need defence, ewspecially speed we need either an olb or CB cause our d got beat bad in playoffs. Wasn’t oline that gave up all those yards plus we just signed both our tackles to extentions with means TT ain’t goons draft one in the first plus we have more obvious needs on d. Plus o line got better and we got young talent emerging already
birddoguni
that would be 2 OLB , 2 OT , 2 CB , 2 SAFETIES , 2 ILB , & 2 RB’s
@ goth:
Well the way I read it is: 1 OLB, 2 OT, 1CB, 1 RB or 1CB, 1 S, 1 OL depth… Here are 7 possibles & We have 8 draft picks, counting our 5th round compensatory pick. You also have to take into consideration that TT will probably trade something for more picks, God knows what, but, he loves his draft picks! Sorry if it wasn’t more clear. I sometimes type so fast that I can’t keep up with my brain! : ) lol
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