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Will The Packers Draft Someone "Red-Flagged" For Marijuana?

I read this article at SI.com a couple days ago with the quote "marijuana is almost epidemic." Here's the main point of the article:

According to one veteran club personnel man, 10 or 11 players who carry first-round draft grades on their board this year have been red-flagged for marijuana use in college, an estimate echoed by two clubs' head coaches.

Now I'm sure you're all stunned to learn that there are drugs on college campuses (sarcasm). I think it would have been easier for me to have bought a joint when I was living on campus then it was for me to buy liquor when I was underage. I personally can't stand smoking so it was never my vice (I've had plenty of other vices though...), but I thought this was really the key to the article:

"The kids are admitting it much more now, and part of that is what they've been coached to do [by their agents or handlers],'' one club general manager said. "They want to get the truth out and give you an explanation for their use. That's seen as better than letting someone else put it out there for you and making you look like you were being evasive.

It's not a recent problem. Players are just being upfront about it, and the NFL hasn't cared. Teams are more interested in whether you're honest with them. I don't want the Packers to draft someone with a full-blown substance abuse problem, but I'd have no problem with them drafting someone who admitted that they might have enjoyed college a bit. 

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Brandon you're wrong

It’s much easier to get alcohol underage on a college campus than it is to obtain Marijauna on a college campus. Trust me on this one.

by Donald Driver on Mar 25, 2010 1:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I think it would be an interesting debate

perhaps a poll is in order? probably not sbnation appropriate though.

by sicklebeat on Mar 25, 2010 4:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

When I was an undergrad (96-00), neither was particularly hard to get at.

It’s like arguing about whether the 0-14 Buccaneers or the 0-16 Lions were worse. Let’s just agree that both teams were really terrible, and both booze (underage) and pot were (and probably still are) very easy to get on most campuses.

by cmadler on Mar 25, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well since my room mate was a dealer

I would have to disagree with you.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 25, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

more interesting campus, too

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 26, 2010 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

As of 2008

a World Health Organization survey found that more than 42% of US adults admitted having used marijuana at some point in their life. Three consecutive US Presidents (Clinton, Bush, Obama) have admitted using it, and two of them have probably used cocaine (Bush alleged, Obama admitted). Past marijuana use is probably not a disqualifying factor for anything anymore.

by cmadler on Mar 25, 2010 7:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Marijuana really isn’t a big deal. It doesn’t provide any specific advantage over a competitor and it’s not addictive. Now i don’t think they should be smoking pot when they’re in the NFL, i don’t see why it should prevent someone from being drafted at where their skills determine they should. If it continues to be a problem after being drafted, the issue isn’t the weed, it’s the player’s attitude.

by dchoubak on Mar 25, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

If for no other reason, it’s a big deal because it’s against the law.

by Curly Lambeau on Mar 25, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

Could be legal in California pretty soon.

When i was young, people smoked in the Union, on the terrace — everywhere in Madison. It wasn’t really legal, but it was a parking ticket level offense.

Steroids and HGH should be more of a concern.

by uglyfatpimplynerd on Mar 25, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I’d agree that steroids and HGH should be more of a concern if we’re talking about the health of the sport, but when we’re evaluating an individual player, then… The fact is that pot is still illegal (and thank goodness). Any illegal drug will land a player in the substance abuse program and eventually fines and suspensions. …and distractions for the team. Johnny Jolly being a good example.

Immature children think pot is cool. Responsible grown-ups know it’s not. If a guy’s interested in drugs, it tells you that he’s of low character.

by Curly Lambeau on Mar 25, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa

Let’s not start generalizing now. Just because you smoke pot, doesn’t mean you’re immature. Cigarettes are a helluva lot worse for you and less enjoyable. It’s all about bad stigma and a century of negative propoganda.

by dchoubak on Mar 25, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Legal here in Alaska

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The glass is more than half-full.

by NorthStarr on Mar 28, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

One day soon...

this won’t be an issue at all. California is going to legalize it in November.

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 25, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

This for medicinal purposes again?

I thought they had already passed that.

It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...

by Grime on Mar 25, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its up for ballot in November

to totally legalize it up to one ounce for personal use. First in Cali, then… the world! (one can only hope I guess)

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 25, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just come to Canada…life is a lot less stressful. We don’t have cops up our asses day and night trying to arrest us for a gram :)

by dchoubak on Mar 25, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

We don't either

for the most part, some of the cops in my city are cool and I know them. However, they’d bust me in a heartbeat if they knew what was up.

Like I said, one day our constitution may be realized instead of idolized and we can actually be free to live our own life however we see fit :) There are always going to be immature, less responsible people who pass judgment and look down on their fellow man tho, which is sad and kind of pathetic

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 26, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will link

to appropriate article

here

“Daily Caller” Marijuana Advocates Confident California Will Legalize Drug for Recreational Use

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 25, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great!!!!

another reason not to go visit.

by hermitcrab on Mar 25, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

besides the fact that it will fall into the ocean...

I don’t see why some growing plants would discourage anyone from visiting.

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 26, 2010 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care that they smoked

I care that they’re dumb enough to do it before what is essentially the biggest interview of their lives where they already know they’ll be tested.

by Charlie Kelly on Mar 25, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Totally true

While it may be unfair and completely unconstitutional to check what substances I may have ingested at one time or another (or not, false positives are common with every level of drug testing), its still stupid to not play it safe when going for that big meal ticket.

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 25, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who

had the most character issues going into last draft? Percy Harvin. Who won rookie of the year? Exactly.

by justinlewis on Mar 25, 2010 4:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I didn't say they couldn't perform or would be trouble players

I’m just commenting on how stupid someone must be to smoke before an important job interview in which they know they’ll be tested.

by Charlie Kelly on Mar 25, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

And who’s career is going to last a couple of years tops?

by Curly Lambeau on Mar 25, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

If he keeps getting his ass kicked like last year he won’t last too long.

by dchoubak on Mar 25, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You better hope so! Otherwise he is gonna be torching you guys year in and year out for years to come hahaha.

by packallday555 on Mar 25, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

figures

mention drugs and you come running

"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09

by PackaCracka on Mar 26, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

jeff spicoli

“what Jefferson was saying was, hey! you know, we left this England place cause it was bogus, so if we don’t get some cool rules ourselves—pronto—we’ll just be bogus too! get it?”

“all i need are some tasty waves, a cool buds,and i’m fine”

by hermitcrab on Mar 26, 2010 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Dude! …that was my skull!

by Curly Lambeau on Mar 26, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

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