It's Over: Aaron Kampman to the Jaguars
by Brandon on Mar 7, 2010 1:37 AM CST
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PrintIt's been reported by the Times-Union that the Jaguars have agreed to terms with Aaron Kampman. The terms of the deal are not yet known, but it's likely in the neighborhood of the 4 years, $26 million, $10 million guaranteed deal that the Lions just gave to DE Kyle Vanden Bosch.
This move means Kampman will play on a 4-3 defense in 2010 and return to defensive end, which might have been his top priority this offseason. While the Packers will miss his ability as a pass rusher, assuming it returns next season after his ACL injury, they won't miss his struggles as an outside linebacker. Or the potential risk of overpaying a player on the wrong side of 30. The 3-4 defense was a pleasant surprise last season, but the thing I miss most about the 4-3 defense is watching Kampman play defensive end.
Unfortunately this isn't a discussion on the merits of resigning him. I've been resigned to his departure for the last three weeks. He might have been someone the Packers could have afforded, but money wasn't the main issue. Greg Bedard sent out another tweet about it tonight:
And for the record I'm not saying who is to blame. Sometimes it's just time to move on. For both sides.
Good luck to him. He had a great run as a Packer, and he was their best defensive player for the middle part of the last decade. Now they can focus on finding his replacement: someone to provide a pass rush from the left side of the defense. Maybe that player is already on the roster? Or does this become their top priority in the April draft?
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Dear
AK,
Thanks for your time in GB and thanks for being a pro. Thank you for not signing with the LIons, Bears or Vikings…….
by GBfan73 on Mar 7, 2010 2:57 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Kampman
Thank you for the time in GB. You always worked your butt off and never gave up. You are one of my favorite players of all time but you didnt fit in the 3-4.
I wish you well going back to DE and having a great career from now on.
pretty sure the Pack didnt even offer him a contract,
so i dont know what the heck you’re talkin about.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
by OznCoop on Mar 7, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why wouldn't it?
If you could do the same job for Company A or for Company B, and Company B offered you substantially more money, why wouldn’t you work for Company B? Especially if Company A played games with your career while you worked for it?
Actually he wouldn’t do the same job at both…Job A asked him to do something out of his comfort zone and Job B is paying him to go back do what he was doing. Company A didn’t “play games with his career” they asked him to do something different…it happens quite a bit in the REAL world actually.
So you agree that he needed to go?
For his own sake, he needed to leave Green Bay. He isn’t a linebacker.
Brad Jones
Maybe it is good that Kampman got injured last year and we got to see Brad Jones play. I feel better about the situation knowing that Jones is there, instead of relying on a draft pick or free agent siging
AK79, yuo definitely had some good years.
I hope you can recover from the ACL Injury and Jacksonville’s D definitely needs a good 4-3 rusher.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2010 9:47 AM CST reply actions
Well, it's sad to see our best pass rusher go, but I wish him the best
He was an amazing person on and off the field and always gave it his best. Best of luck to AK.
Now we’ll have to draft somebody to replace him.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Aaron Kampman, Etc.
A class act and a great role model! Bless you, Aaron, and best wishes with your new team!
P.S. A small thing: “Resign” means to quit a position, “re-sign” means to formally accept a new contract. “Resign” has been used in this article for both meanings, and is often posted here when “re-sign” is intended.
RBRC
by RBRC on Mar 7, 2010 10:29 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Not that I think it will happen,
not even sure If I want it to, but Joey Porter is out there, and I’m sure he’s attracted about the chance to win in Green Bay.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
no thankyou,
we are more than deep at LB as is, we dont need an overaged overhyped bad locker room player like Porter.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
I'm up for it when he is officially released by Miami
AK is gone, so we need another proven pass rusher to compliment Clay Matthews.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Thanks for everything over the years Kampman
When he first started playing I was thrilled with his effort but thought we were in bad shape if a guy like him was gonna be our best DE. I was totally wrong. He is a special player and I wish him nothing but the best.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Congrats Aaron
I wish him nothing but the best…for two reasons:
1. He’s a quality, stand up guy. He left on good terms and exactly how I imagined a guy like him would. We’ll miss him back here but this was best for both him and us.
2. The better he plays, the better our compensatory pick we get next year! I hope he returns to pro bowl form for the Jags!!
Someone talk
Compensatory pick here please. What will/can we receive next year? Who decides what it’s worth?
by Archibaldcrane on Mar 7, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
I’ve heard that it comes down to his performance next year. The better he does, the more we get compensated because the thought there is that the better he plays the more hurt we were by the loss. I would imagine it would be in the ballpark of a 3rd…but if he returns to pro bowl form, it could be a 2nd.
green bay has the worst pass rush in the NFC North now
one more year Brett Favre!
well maybe third
vikings
bears
packers
lions
either way i think it still comes down to the vikings and the packers for the division next year, bears still have no recievers and cutler isnt even close to Favre and Rodgers
one more year Brett Favre!
I think we do. No question Vikes are #1. I think the Lions will now be #2 with Vanden Bosch, Williams, and the likely arrival of Suh/McCoy. I’d say then it’s between us and the Bears but with them having Peppers it’s hard to say we’re better then them. I think it’ll depend a lot on whether or not Raji can provide that pass rush everyone expects him to this year.
by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
ya exactly what i was thinking
i still fear the packers alot more than the bears, out of the respect i have for Aaron Rodgers in his 3rd year of starting
one more year Brett Favre!
pass rush
Vanden Bosch is way overrated… He put up good numbers w/ HAYNESWORTH drawing double and triple teams, but that won’t happen w/ Williams next to him. 5 sack for him this season.
Peppers is a good pass rusher, no doubt, but we’ll see how that works out. Personally I think the bares are grasping at straws for something that won’t happen. Thier Defense has gotten old in the past 2 yrs and signing Peppers doesn’t help that, he’s 30… They need to rebuild and spending wildly on Peppers doesn’t change that.
Allen is a good pass rusher for the vikes, but how many sacks did he have against the rest of the NFL? He got like 7 vs the Packers backup LT!!! Good, but way overrated, IMO…
CM3 was great last year and is only going to get better! Add to that another pass rushing OLB in the draft and I can see the Packers having the best pass rush in the division.
Vanden Bosch isn’t overrated I don’t think. I watched a few games this year and the only reason he wasn’t as effective was because the Titans DTs got literally no push up the middle! He would fly around the edge only to have the Qb step up in the pocket. With Williams and likely Suh/McCoy the pass rush up the middle will be there. Even Avril is pretty good on the left side.
I suppose your right about Peppers and that defense but if Harris can get healthy this next season they’ll have a good pass rush.
I agree Allen is overrated. He has a great speed rush but he is too easy at times to just simply push way to far upfield. His speed is also his weakness when it comes to playing the run as he gets up field so fast. Another thing to consider is he plays with the best DT in the league and probably another top 10 DT in the league.
Matthews and Jenkins provide a good pass rush but aside from them we don’t have much. Jones was solid in providing a pass rush, and Pickett and Jolly boith rarely ever did. We need Raji to do that for us.
by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
draft
I’m pretty sure the Packers will add someone to compliment CM3 at LOLB… Give us another pass rusher opposite CM and the Packers will be much improved!!! With Matthews, Jenkins an improving Raji and another OLB like Hughes the Pack would easily have a top tier pass rush!!!
I still think Vanden Bosch is overrated. I don’t see that Williams is going to help him a whole lot… A little maybe… Williams doesn’t command a double team too much. He is good but not dominant!!! The other DT has to be more of NT in detroit. Williams is a 3 tech DT, they will need a DT to provide and anchor not so much a pass rush. Suh could but that would limit his playmaking, and McCoy is a Pure 3 Tech DT, so he doesn’t fit w/ Williams.
Yeah, adding a guy could really help our pass rush. And while I think TT wants to see what Jones can do, I don’t really know what else we would use our 23 pick on since all the OTs will likely be gone.
I didn’t know Williams is a 3 technique. Kind of interesting that they would trade for him when Suh or McCoy could be much, much better 3 tech DT’s then Williams.
by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m not quite sure what Detroit is going to do w/ their 1st rd pick. Seems to me Suh would be the best choice, but if you play him at NT it limits him. If you play Williams at NT, he won’t hold up. We had Pickett as a NT when Williams was at his best. Detroit has just confused me w/ the addition of Williams. Might they actually look to draft someone besides Suh or McCoy???
I suspect they draft OT Russell Okung
They do need OL help, and drafting the best LT on the board to protect their franchise QB does make sense. This is a deep draft for DT, so I can see Detroit drafting DT Dan Williams in the 2nd Round.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Good point. This draft is really, really deep for DTs.
by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Okung
great call… I was trying to remember what they needed, but overlooked LT, since they have so many needs on D!!! Though I don’t see Dan Williams falling into the 2nd rd…
Dan Williams is one of several DT's that may be available in the 2nd
If they don’t draft Okung though, they’ll may also draft Eric Berry. Over at P.O.D. they are all hoping for Eric Berry since they added Corey Williams. Although I’m one of many on the Suh bandwaggon, this would make more sense. It’s really a toss up: Russell Okung or Eric Berry.
Signing DE Kyle Vanden Bosch and DT Corey Williams equals less odds of drafting DT Suh or McCoy. Like you said, Detroit has many needs and they already added 2 to their DL, thus making it more likely for Detroit to go elsewhere on the roster in the 1st Round.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
I think Raji will provide that pass rush we need from RE while Picket remains as our NT. In Preseason last year he was pushing the linemen back 3-5 yards on several plays. Not that Preseason counts, but those linemen were fighting for a starting role. Then he got injured and played sparingly through the season. I think a healthy and fresh Raji will help out. The question is will we find a LOLB that can provide a solid pass rush?
Will Brad Jones add on 10 lbs like he was asked to? Will he step up his game next year?
It’s a good question in who has the worst pass rush. I won’t lie, we may be close. Although I feel Vanden Bosch does have a motor, the results haven’t been there this past season. He and Clay Matthews are similar in what they bring to their defense though. They both give it everything they have on every down. Their motor is noticeable and can’t be ignored. However, the Lions just have Vanden Bosch while GB has Clay Matthews. With Clay lining up as a OLB, he can determine where to attack based upon where Cullen Jenkins ends up. I feel that is where our 3-4 scheme comes to our advantage.
Not that it matters too much though, because having an edge over the Lions in anything isn’t much to be proud of. Best pass rush in the NFC North:
1. Vikings
2. Bears
3. Packers
4. Lions
Our DL will be a lot better this season, but we have that question mark at the LOLB position. We still have the draft coming up and I would love to sign 3-4 pass rushing specialist Joey Porter. The addition of Porter alone would put Green Bay at the #1 spot, mark my words. We are that close.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Question mark
We do have a ? mark at LOLB, and while I like Jones, I don’t see him being the answer. The best way to solve that ? mark is by drafting Jerry Hughes!!! He’s been my pick for over a month, since well before the combine. Signing Clifton gives the Packers the abiltiy to draft a LT in the 2nd (Veldheer) or 3rd (Tony Washington) to develop for a year.
I see Hughes or a CB in the first, unless a OT falls to us. Bulaga, Davis or Trent Williams would still be the pick over Hughes. Hughes Is my favorite player in this draft, and I hope Thompson picks him!!!
I agree with you Stroh, as I mentioned in other threads
However, there is a chance we don’t land an OLB. You just never know how a draft will play out. I hope we do get an OLB, because I am not too optimistic about Brad Jones. That’s why I mentioned Jones will have to step up his game drastically if we can’t land an OLB.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Just looked him up, I'm practically drooling right now...
Perhaps we can trade down from the 1st and grab him with an early 2nd Round Projection. In a couple mocks I’ve seen, it appears he’s an early to mid 2nd Round Projection. Do you think he’ll climb into the 1st Round?
I love his size. I never got a chance to watch him play, so I’ll take your word on it. You seem to know what you are talking about on these boards. He isn’t tall standing at 6’ 2, which is one reason I like him. Short players seem to be better off as a 3-4 OLB. He’s only 255 lbs, which makes him an ideal 3-4 OLB. He’s too light to play as a 4-3 DE, and is just the right size for a 3-4 OLB.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Climb
I have seen most of the mocks have him in the early 2nd, only a few in the late 1st. Haven’t seen him as the Packers pick yet… ALWAYS a LT. But I love his ability!!! And think it would be a mistake to pass on him at 23. I live in AZ, and I know the Cards have a HUGE need for a pass rushing OLB!!! I have seen a mock w/ the Cards taking him. Hughes’ test scores at the combine were very good…
Hughes has almost perfect size for a 34 OLB… Average is about 6’3 and 260 or so, from what I have read. Making Matthews and Hughes almost exact. LOL He was 6’3 and 250 last year but wants to gain 5-10 lbs for next year.
Raji won't add much pass rush
That’s not what he is supposed to do in a 3-4, and he isn’t really a pass-rush type. He’s a nose tackle who got beat out and moved to end in a 3-4. I think he is and will be a good fit, but he isn’t a pass rusher. His job is to occupy offensive linemen.
Raji
While your right about it being his job on running downs to take up blockers, when he plays on passing downs he is an interior pass rusher! Not playing him at NT, and having him rotate w/ Jolly and Jenkins keeps him fresh so he can rush the QB on passing downs. When he was at Boston Co. he was a terror putting pressure on the QB from a DT position.
In an ideal world, yes
But that’s not what he was drafted to do. If he could collapse the pocket, that would be great, but his position isn’t designed to generate pass rush off the edge, like a DE in a 4-3 or an OLB in a 3-4.
collapse
I don’t think Thompson would have drafted Raji at #9 last year if all he was going to do was take up blockers and be a run stopping NT, you can find that in later rounds… Raji showed in college that he could generate an interior pass rush and that had ALOT to do w/ Thompson drafting him last year!
Run stopping DL you can find pretty easily later in the draft, but not pass rushers!
On running plays, yes. The 3-4 DL are meant to consume blockers, and most do this on passing downs as well but there are an elite few who actually can provide a bit of a pass rush in the 3-4 (Dockett, Ngata, Smith (Steelers), and even Jenkins.) I can promise you when TT drafted Raji he did with the thought that he is stout against the run, and get rush the Qb to a degree too. Obviously doing so in a 4-3 like he did in college is different then in a 3-4 with us but he can still get some push and collapse the pocket to a degree.
And this is something we need from him because neither Pickett or Jolly can provide any pass rush whatsoever most of the time, and it hurts us because Qb’s can just simply step up in the pocket.
by packallday555 on Mar 8, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Jolly does
Jolly got enough penetration to knock balls down. I think he had 10 of them — that’s a lot.
On obvious passing downs, Pickett and Raji and other pluggers aren’t on the field because they aren’t pass rushers. Raji was drafted as a NT for a 3-4, but with his injuries and otherwise slow start, Pickett beat him out to such a degree that Thompson was forced to franchise Pickett. I’m all for Raji turning into a pass rusher, but I’m saying that’s not what he was drafted to do and it’s definitely a secondary part of his job description.
I think Jolly actually had 11 knock downs but that doesn’t necessarily mean he got good penetration, and most of the time he didn’t.
I just know I paid close attention to him in our games against the Cardinals and Steelers, and a few others and he really didn’t impress me whatsoever. Any time we were able to be run on this year it was done so directly over Jolly and Jones. And on passing plays Jolly didn’t really do anything but stand at the line of scrimmage waiting for the opportunity to bat a ball down. This might seem crazy and it might just be cause I’m not a huge fan of his in general but I think the only reason he is working in our new system is cause he weighs 330 lbs.
Collapsing the pocket was definitely a second priority this year for Raji but I hope this is something he can improve on next year. Being able to get equal push on the right side of the line to the left side of the line could really help out Matthews and Jones next year.
by packallday555 on Mar 8, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
but...
you are giving the Lions Suh/McCoy but not giving us anyone better. There are quite a few I see that have the lIons going after someone else in their spot now with the new signings. Also its very possible and even likely that the packers draft someone to challenge Jones…WAY too early to talk about one being better than someone else at anything. Heck free agency is only 3 days in at this point.
Imagine me agreeing with you again Stroh...
You know I’ve beat the LT in the ground… but, you are right… : ) Since we do have Clif… I wouldn’t mind getting Veldheer or Washington from ACU… Would be a project though and if Clif goes down… We might find ourselves in big trouble… Is it worth the risk? I guess TT will answer that question for us too! Hughes has been Mocked at the end of the 1st round in most of the Mocks… Say that 3 times fast… lol I say if Hughes is our guy at #36… He should be our guy at #23… Why risk not getting the player you really want!? In fact several mocks have him going at #24! Our board is probably pretty much set and the strategy is in place… I’m sure Ted has a Trade up/Trade down/Pick @ #23 philosophy already in place… I just wish I knew what it was!!!! lol
Go Pack!!
Did we get anything in return?
I admit it, free agency confuses me. Did we get picks for Kampman?
Also, Good Luck Aaron! You were always a class and great Packer!
compensation
Next year we will recieve a compensatory pick for Kampman. The round the pick is in depends on the contract he signs, as in the amount he gets from Jax. and how well he plays. If he is a Pro Bowl player the Packers get the highest compensatory pick possible. I believe the highest compensatory pick is a 3rd rd pick. It comes at the end of the 3rd and before the 4th rd starts.
Kampman wasn’t a Restricted FA, so the Packers won’t get a pick in this years draft. It comes in NEXT years draft…
by Strohman on Mar 8, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I personally would like to thank Aaron Kampman for all he did while here.
He always gave it everything and fought as hard as he could. And I wish him the best of luck in Jacksonville.
OT: My absence over the past few weeks is due to the fact that my home computer’s hard drive crashed. I usually spend most of my time over at Bleed Cubbie Blue, but after the hard drive crashed, my appearances there became very sporadic. I finally got my computer back, with an upgraded operating system, on Sunday.
Due to the operating system upgrades (previously Macintosh OS 10 Tiger, now OS 10 Leopard), it’s as if I am using a completely new computer.
Who cares if he's a Cubs fan? This is a football forum! He is a PACKER fan as well. So, from now until March, I’m sure he’ll dedicate a lot of his time here. In late March, then we can be enemies during the baseball season. Besides, the Cubs have perhaps the most loyal baseball fanbase in the country. You have to respect that.
Go Pack!
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