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Free Agency Ideas For The Packers

Well I was off by only $1 million. According to the Times-Union, DE Aaron Kampman officially received 4 years, $26 million, and $11 million guaranteed. The article quotes Gene Smith, the Jaguars GM, who called it a "calculated risk." There certainly is some risk involved. My first choice would have been to keep Kampman, but after watching knee problems turn DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila from an effective pass rusher in 2007 to absolutely useless in 2008, I'm worried about knee problems for defensive ends. 

I asked for suggestions in my previous post for free agent ideas. I'm a fan of RB Brian Westbrook, but I hope he retires due to his concussion history. Otherwise he'd be a great back for the Packers. While I'd be happy if they didn't sign any free agents from other teams, after resigning all of their own current free agents, here were some other good suggestions from the comments:

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Danniel Manning is a restricted FA the Bears put a 3rd round tag on. The Bears who do a poor job of "coaching up" their players have bounced him around from nickel back, free and strong safety and back again. So I’m not sure he even knows what is his best position. He’s athletic and if the Packers could decide on a position and "coach him up" he should be a reliable backup/potential starter. He’s an excellent kick returner. McCarthy said this year he was one of the games dangerous KR’s. He therefore would address two areas of need.

As was mentioned later, giving up a 3rd round pick to the Bears in a deep draft might not be wise, but it would be like acquiring a healthy version of CB Will Blackmon.

When they let Orlando Pace go, I laughed, because I knew last season was a wakeup call and would bet this next season will be a good one for him. Orlando has one, maybe two good years in him, I reckon and rotating him at Tackle might save some wear on the Pack’s O-Line.

Is Pace willing just to play out his career on someone's bench? If so, then the idea of acquiring a backup offensive lineman with some actual experience has some appeal to me. Though that hasn't been GM Ted Thompson's style, he did try it last year when he signed former Bill starter Duke Preston who was released during the preseason.

I guess I’m still hoping that he’ll try and sign a Cb who can come in and play a nickel or dime spot for us like Philip Buchanon, Benny Sapp, or Lito Sheppard...

Personally, I think Leigh Bodden would be a good addition, if the price is right. If still around in a week or 2 and price is commensorate w/ production… He might be a good fit.

While I don't know if any of those particular guys are on the radar, this may be the one area you see a veteran free agent signing. Last season, they signed S Anthony Smith and brought in Browns S Mike Adams for a visit. 

I don’t think a lot of teams are gonna be beating down his door so we have time to see how Jones does in the offseason workouts and mini-camps and also see how the draft shakes out. If he is still on the market in June and we feel like we need a boost at LOLB then yes, we should look at Joey Porter.

I'm not a fan, but I can certainly understand the appeal.

I would like them to take a chance on Jake Delhomme. Maybe he’s had better years, but at least he’s got experience. I cringe at the thought of Rodgers going down and who would come in to guide the Packers at that point.

With the Brian Brohm error over, I'm not sure what GM Ted Thompson is going to do. Draft another QB with a late round pick? Find a good QB for the practice squad? Stick with only 2 QBs? Sign a veteran like Delhomme?

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No! No! No! Not Bear Hand-Me-Downs!

Hey Brandon! I was a Bears fan for decades & finally couldn’t handle it any more last year; took the pledge; & converted to the Pack. Believe me, the last thing we want to do is take on Bear hand-me-downs, Manning & Pace.

Manning, while being fast & athletic, is one of those players who just doesn’t produce (check out his stats). He doesn’t cover & doesn’t tackle and this is why the Bears have bounced him all over the place trying to find a position where his speed and athleticism will translate into production. Believe me, the Bears coaching staff has given him a lot of opportunities over the past 4 years and, so far, nothing’s happened. Unless the Packer coaching staff is vastly superior to the Bears’, this would not be the way to go.

Now, granted, he’s a very good return man but unless that’s all that we want him to do, we’d be a lot better off getting a good return man in the draft who will do something else on the field.

As for Pace-a good man and, in the not to distant past, a Hall of Fame tackle. But now, he’s done! finished! kaput! out-of-gas! We’d be a lot better off bringing in a younger OT in FA or the draft & letting that individual grow & mature. Pace, like Manning, is not the answer.

by nosmo343 on Mar 9, 2010 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

I’m not too keen on signing Manning, but I’d have no problem with signing Pace to a one year deal. Right now if Clifton goes out we’re replacing him with Lang. While there’s no problem with Lang at LT, I think he’s going to be starting somewhere else on the line this year (LG, RT), so I’d rather just leave him there.

by Dr. Jay on Mar 9, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Manning is a Bear Hand-Me-Up

nosmo343,
I penned the Manning post. As a Packer fan living in Chicago and a Bears season ticket holder for 6 years til I just couldn’t stand giving the McCaskeys any more of my money I’ve seen Manning play. I agree he hasn’t produced but am not sure it’s all his fault. And yes the Packer coaching staff is superior to the Bears. Hub Arkish last year called the Bears staff the worst in the NFL.
While I’m not sold on the Packers signing Manning it’s an intriguing situation considering he would address two needs. If it was a 2nd round tag I would absolutely say no but being a 3rd round tag it’s possible it makes sense if they think he can contribute at DB along w/ his KR skills.
I agree on Pace…his nickname these days should be either “Ole” or “Lookout”

by BubbaOne on Mar 9, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh it guarantees him a Packer game each year. :)

Can sell the rest of them at a premium!!

Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge

by Bush League All Star on Mar 10, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha that’s one way of looking at it I guess!

by packallday555 on Mar 10, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Delhomme. I like him. But didn’t we just get rid of a double digit Interception QB? What was that bums name?

by Troy J. on Mar 9, 2010 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

LOL!

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 9, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

kampman a risk?

if kampman is/was a calculated risk to sign because of a bad knee. what would we call the signing of cliffy….a potential apacolyptic risk, afterall he has 2 bad knees, bad ankles, bad shoulder ect….he has numerous surgies under his belt and he’s 3 years older.

i’m hoping the duct tape holds up for 1 more year at least, hopefully 2.
cross your fingers, pull out an eyelash, wish upon a shooting star ect…ect…

by hermitcrab on Mar 9, 2010 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

I wasn’t and still aint too worried about Kampman. It was severe to KGB because he was a speed rusher. Kampman is a bull rusher. The difference is KGB relied more on his legs as Kampman relies more on his upper body. It will take time for it to heal, but I think Kampman will be solid yet as long as he’s not rushed back onto the field.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 9, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly. Kampman uses his hands so well, and just never quits. That’s what makes him so good. Not an unbelievable speed rush or great athletic ability. Kampman will be good this next season.

by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Draft Jerry Hughes

That is all

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 9, 2010 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

i prefer brandon graham

by hermitcrab on Mar 9, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

too stiff

can’t cover

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 9, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, your right. It’d be like Kampman all over again. If we’re going to draft an OLB we need to make sure he is athletic enough to play the position, and Hughes is, as well as Kindle and Sapp.

I’m kinding hoping if we decide to grab an OLB we grab Eric Norwood out of South Carolina later in the draft though. I think he is way underrated, and basically played a standing DE for much of his career at South Carolina.

by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Hughes

Hughes has almost everything over Graham, IMO… Production, nobody can top his 26 sacks in 2 seasons, Graham had very good production too…

Hughes a 4.69 40, Graham slightly better, BUT more telling is the 10 yrd split… Hughes’ 1.53 10 yrd split is extraordinary… That is EXPLOSIVE!!! Hughes’ shuttle times are also among the 2 or 3 best!!! Shows tremendous agility, explosiveness and change of direction skill. Important for coverage, when asked!!!

Course, I’m biased… I think Hughes is THE best pass rusher, best 34 OLB prospect, and among the best defensive players in the draft. Suh, McCoy, Berry, Haden, Hughes, McClain, Thomas, Graham

by Strohman on Mar 9, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

do the eyeball test

watch game films and see who makes plays. graham shows up so many more times than hughes. graham dominated at the senior bowl, during practices and at the game. he did receive mvp honors for the game by the way.

in regards to shuttle times, hawk had a top 3 shuttle time at the combine when he came out also, ahhh he stinks as a coverage LB and as an overall LB. don’t fall in love with the combine numbers, that is not what makes a football player. watch game film, football speed is different from drill speed. look for football instincts, reactions, recognition, those are things that the combine doesn’t test for, but the film does…

by hermitcrab on Mar 10, 2010 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Playing in a 4-3 is a much different role from a 3-4 though

If we were running a 4-3 defense, I would say Brandon Graham hands down. Considering we run a 3-4 now, Jerry Hughes is the more ideal fit. He’s smaller, faster, quicker, and can cover better.

As Packallday mentioned about, drafting Graham would be like having Kampman all over again, except he’s an inexperienced version of Kampman. It’s not a question of whether Graham can pass rush, because he can. It’s a question of whether he fits the 3-4 defense or not. Judging by his size and game film, he doesn’t look like a good fit with Green Bay.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 10, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Hughes

I have been all over Hughes since well before the combine! His performance there only strengthened my stance on him… Ask Bird Dog Uni…

26 sacks in 26 games for Hughes in past two seasons!!!

If I were about combine numbers I’d love Mays and Campbell… I can’t stand either!!!

Check out the link on Hughes…
http://www.draftboardinsider.com/cgi-bin/prospect.cgi?id=905

by Strohman on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, Hughes certainly has the production to go along with the numbers.

by packallday555 on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing is, Hughes did have the production in games. All the great numbers at the combine are just kind of an added bonus. I love Graham as a player and think he’ll be great for someone but not in a 3-4. Many scouts said he is “too stiff” to play 3-4 OLB, and I don’t think that’s a risk we want to take. We saw Kampman struggled making the transition, and I would hate to see us draft a guy that struggles as OLB all over again.

by packallday555 on Mar 10, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 9, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Hughes

You tell them Bird Dog!!! Bang that drum!!! LOL

another link for the masses…

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Impact-potential-of-34-rush-linebacker-class.html

I’m preachin Bird Dog!!! LOL

by Strohman on Mar 10, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

As for FA idea

I know the idea of Westbrook has been bounced around here, and subsequently dismissed due to his declining health.

But what about LT? Although he hasn’t been 100% in recent years, he doesn’t have nearly the same wear and tear Westbrook, and even more importantly, he doesn’t have the whole “my brain bleeds when I get hit” thing going on either.

I think he would be a perfect compliment to Grant. He’d maybe get 5 carries a game to change it up, but his real value would be on 3rd down. He is an excellent receiver and solid protector against the blitz. He would be an instant upgrade over Brandon Jackson, who really doesn’t bring much to the table as a receiving threat.

All of this, of course, is contingent upon what kind of deal he is looking for, and what TT is willing to give up. If my assumptions serve me right, it’s probably something like a lot v.s. less. I’d be all for picking him up, because I think he has a few years left as a more than serviceable 3rd down back, but if the price is too high, I’m content passing on him.

"stay (green and) gold"

by Green and Bold on Mar 9, 2010 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

old rb

speaking of older rb’s. it’s been rumored that LT will be visiting minny haha tomorrow…

by hermitcrab on Mar 9, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

If the pack wants an old, almost done RB why not keep Green?

by tkiller314 on Mar 10, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Glue factory or bust

Really guys, you want some other teams cast offs…even on the cheap that is a terrible idea.
This Packer group is young w/age at the margins at important positions T,CB.

Like it or not TT will be adding thru the draft exclusively and given his piss poor performance of signing other teams glue (Preston, Smith) I’d rather have lots of young bodies in camp than the false hope of washed out NFL retirees.

by 1rarebird on Mar 9, 2010 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

new acquisition

the packers just signed Charles Dillion WR played at washington st in 08, he played in the af2 last year….got an injury settlement from the colts last year…….looks like maybe he can return kicks and punts..

who says we don’t sign anyone?

people i give you exhibit A -————- exhibit B better be news on collins extension.

by hermitcrab on Mar 9, 2010 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Hopefully the guy has some serious speed. Who knows maybe he could come in and play the #5 spot for us as well in the big 5.

by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

probably does

have serious speed and great hands and runs percise routes…that’s why the colts got rid of him…p. manning can’t use a guy with those qualities…

it’s said he ran like a 4.46 back in 08, but i’m curious of what injury did he have for the colts to basically reach a injury settlement back in 08.

by hermitcrab on Mar 9, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, it is kind of scary that the Colts released him. As we’ve seen in recent years Manning can basically make any WR a good one, so either he just didn’t have it at WR or his injury really hurt him.

by packallday555 on Mar 10, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

My first reaction to it when I saw that last night was…“Oh, great. Just another free agent that’ll be released after Preseason.”

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Mar 10, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Charles Dillon ~ Washington State ~ KR ~ 40 for 835 yards... 20.87 yard ave...

I believe Ted signed him to return kicks! 20.87 yard ave is only about twice as good as our returns last year! : )

Go Pack!!

by Bird Dog Uni on Mar 10, 2010 6:02 PM CST reply actions  

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