On The Packers 2010 Schedule, Another Mock Draft, and Carriker to the Redskins

by Brandon on Apr 21, 2010 7:00 AM CDT in Green Bay Packers News

- The Green Bay Packers 2010 NFL regular-season schedule was released today. It seems way to early to break it down. I'm only interested in how it effects which game I might go to this year, but I'm glad to see they've got four games in prime time just because I prefer to watch the games then.

- Doug Farrar over at Shutdown Corner projects the Packers will take Rutgers OT Anthony Davis and uses the phrase "but if his talent is harnessed." It sounds like he's got a million-dollar arm and a five-cent head. If he insisted on drafting an offensive lineman then why not Idaho's G Mike Iupati or USC OT Charles Brown instead?

- 2007 was a bad draft year for defensive lineman. The Packers took DE Justin Harrell, but he has played well on the very rare occasions when he hasn't been out with an injury. But Rams DE Adam Carriker was taken before Harrell and has been even worse (and just as injured). The Rams dumped him on the Redskins in exchange for a swap of 5th and 7th round picks. How depressing is it to trade the No. 13 overall pick and only move up in a late round three years later?

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we'd be lucky

to get anything for Harrell. I have a hard time believing Carriker has been worse. Honestly I don’t know how you could be…Harrell hasn’t even accumulated a seasons worth of games yet in 3 years. At least Carriker has been on the field. What a depressing duo though.

by TrevorR on Apr 21, 2010 8:36 AM CDT reply actions

He probably had us take Davis over Brown or Iupati because despite his attitude he still is viewed by many as one of the top OT prospects. He is good pass blocking and exceptional at run blocking, especially when it comes to pulling. One thing to keep in mind is he was considered by many to be the 2nd best OT in the draft until the attitude problem surfaced.

by packallday555 on Apr 21, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions

I know I'm a minority here in supporting Justin Harrell...

I think when he finally does come around the rewards will be huge for us. He’s only receiving a $700K salary, so the reward in the end could significantly outweigh the past couple injury ridden years.

Entering the 07’ draft, he was thought to better fit the 3-4 defense. He also only weighed 305 lbs at the time. Now he weighs about 320 lbs so he definately needs to lose 15 pounds at the minimum. Also, losing that weight could help his durability. Just a thought. I have a feeling Harrell will finally be healthy this year and if he loses the weight, he will do good things for our defense. We could use an upgrade at the LE position and I’m sure Brad Jones or whoever starts at LOLB for us this year will greatly appreciate the upgrade at LE.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions

I don't know if upgrade is the right term

I’m with you on the support for Harrell Jabooty. It’s one of those things where the damage has been done really so one more training camp isn’t the end of the world. If he stays healthy then he will be the last piece needed for great depth along the D-line. I don’t think Harrell is an upgrade over Jolly or Jenkins, and he will be competing with Raji as well for alternating in at end snaps, but all in all having all those guys plus Pickett makes me a happy boy for our D-line.

by PackApologist on Apr 21, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Right

I mean if he can play (which isn’t likely) he could provide us with great depth. Like Brandon mentioned, he has looked alright when actually playing so if he is healthy enough to (again unlikely) then great. If not, we cut him.

by packallday555 on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions

He’s definately not an upgrade over Cullen Jenkins. Jenkins in my opinion is a Top 5 3-4 DE. Raji is good to have at LE on obvious running situations, along with a good rotation at NT. Jolly is not as good as he’s made out to be. Maybe his play was a big reason why Kampman couldn’t generate any pressure when he blitzed??? Jolly has good instincts, I’ll give him that. However, he can’t collapse the pocket. He rarely ever commands double teams, and he can’t get off his blocker. To me, he’s average at best. He’s not bad, he’s serviceable, but if we can get someone better we outta do it. Like Ray Lewis said, ‘Pay the men up front because they make the linebackers job a lot easier.’

If Harrell isn’t an upgrade over Jolly, at least he’ll provide quality depth like packallday mentioned. First thing he needs to do though is lose at least 15 pounds.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 21, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

It would obviously be great if Harrell ever did anything, but… Not only am I not holding my breath, you’ve gotta’ believe it’s never going to happen at this point. Back problems don’t get better; they get worse.

If I’m wrong, then that’ll be wonderful. And, yeah, you pay him for another training camp just in case either way, but, yeah, to paraphrase Smilin’ Jack Ross from A Few Good Men, “Justin Harrell’s gone. There is no Justin Harrell.”

Again, I’d love to be wrong here. Aside from the potential he seemed to have, there’s also the fact that he sounds like a really nice guy judging from everything he’s ever said. So, I wish him the best, but, let’s be honest, it’s just not going to happen. He’s not going to be a starter, he’s not going to be depth; he’s just a guy that we haven’t cut ties with quite yet.

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 21, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Did the Packers abandon the idea of using Raji as an end with Pickett as NT?

by Charlie Kelly on Apr 21, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm sure they will just rotate him around

Jolly Pickett Jenkins “start”
Raji NT in pash rushing situations as well as rotating in at DE
Harrell in as he is available.

by PackApologist on Apr 21, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Raji fits the LE position better on running downs. On passing downs, they move him to NT where his future lies. The ideal 3-4 DE weighs anywhere from 290-300 lbs as they are a little quicker, not 335 lbs.

He’s great for our rotation right now, but his future is most definately not at the LE position.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 21, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Jabooty, Cullens a Top 5 3-4 DE when healthy.

When healthy being the key words. I hope he plays a full season and then some.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 21, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey man, I said it was my opinion

Just an opinion.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 21, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey, I hope he plays all year too.

Jenkins is great when healthy. Just like his brother.

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 22, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I was optimistic last year…he disappointed. Now he has to EARN my optimism back again cause I am sick of trying to stand behind him. When he actually performs on the field, I’ll be back in his corner. You are right though, he’s pretty affordable NOW, but he’s made some cash over the years for nothing so he owes us a lot!

by TrevorR on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions

u took the words right out of my mouth. The few times he has been on the field he has been pretty good. I think since his problems are back spasms losing the weight could help and he is quick when he is on the field and healthy. I think this is mark my words gonna be a break out year for us and if nfl has a version of come back player of the year i think he will win it if not i don’t know drop him. Because as good as people think he might be we can’t hold on to him if he is never healthy. He is actually our version of Tommie Harris loads of potential but keeps getting hurt.

by Adam Tarasievich on Apr 21, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Tommy Harris has at least done SOMETHING…I wish he was Tommy Harris at this point.

by TrevorR on Apr 21, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly, if he loses a lot of weight and gets into the ideal weight class of a 3-4 DE, then he will provide more durability. Raji being in there for a strong rotation will also help keep him fresh and healthy. Again though, this is all if he loses weight and a lot of it.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 21, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Davis would be a steal at 23. He has top 10 talent but has had issues with laziness and stuff like that. I would love for that to happen.

by Yankees10 on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 AM CDT reply actions

Yeah

I really hope we land him. Screw attitude problems, he’ll be fine, and considering he has a decent chance of being the best OT in this draft, getting him at #23 would be awesome.

by Archibaldcrane on Apr 22, 2010 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions

I really don't know what the Pack will do

This may be the laziest take of all time, but I just don’t know what the Pack will do. I mean at all. Up, down, offense, defense; it’s all a blur really. It would be great for them to get a pash rush with OLB. It would be great for them to get an LT since they don’t come around often and we are going to need not just just a starter of the future, but also a real option if someone goes down. They could go CB and try to strengthen the secondary. They could go playmaking S to work with Collins. It’s just so much possibility.

I guess I just don’t want to see a reach. Go with someone who has a proven record in college and should fit into the system day one (even if we already have a solid starter in place competition is great). Or if we trade up, I don’t want to see them trade too much away (I really want the Pack to try to pick up around three starters in this draft).

by PackApologist on Apr 21, 2010 11:09 AM CDT reply actions

Thats why I don’t chime in much on the draft when we are sitting in the lower third. There is just too much taht could happen to get all caught up. To sit there and say, TT will do this because is silly because really it comes down to how the draft is going. If someone he likes a lot starts to fall into the teens I wouldn’t be shocked to see him move up to get him. If we get to 23 and no one stands out, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him move either.

by TrevorR on Apr 21, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Well there's that and no glaring need

The way the roster is built there are some definite areas of improvement, but nothing that needs attention in order to win games. Rather, there are some depth issues, secondary, and some long term holes, tackle, and some areas where most teams need to put a guy, rushing the QB. Mix that with our spot and projections get iffy.

by PackApologist on Apr 21, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Yup. I agree. I posted about that about 3-4 weeks ago actually. haha

by TrevorR on Apr 21, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I dont really like the schedule the Packers were dealt

the first reason would be I was looking to go to the Packer/ Bear game but with the game not being until week 17 and in Jan probably wont happen. But that also brings a point why can we not get the GB advantage when we play the southern teams or the dome teams. Outside of the 9ers our other two last season home games are both against teams that are used to the cold Gmen and Bears.

by bizzle4 on Apr 21, 2010 1:32 PM CDT reply actions

yeah…though these days I don’t even know if its REALLY an advantage. Back in the 90s it was but we aren’t nearly as tough minded a team these days. I remember the glory days when we LITERALLY didn’t lose at home in the cold!

by TrevorR on Apr 21, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions